Ted (Remember the Chappaquiddick)Kennedy finally dies

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

RIP Fella. Peace has finally come.

[def_lazer_fc]

youre such a ****

[Turd_Ferguson]

youre such a ****Way to **** up a thread.



RIP Uncle Ted.

[CrimsonJim]

RIP

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TedKennedy/story?id=6692022

[def_lazer_fc]

i think he ****ed it up when he just HAD to put in the phrase Remember the Chappaquiddick. just sayin. a little dignity and respect would be nice.

[Turd_Ferguson]

i think he ****ed it up when he just HAD to put in the phrase Remember the Chappaquiddick. just sayin. a little dignity and respect would be nice.Like Mary Jo got....right?

[yermom]

i think he ****ed it up when he just HAD to put in the phrase Remember the Chappaquiddick. just sayin. a little dignity and respect would be nice.


good luck with all that

[def_lazer_fc]

Like Mary Jo got....right?

i think everyone can agree that he ****ed up and made a horrible decision that day, but i dont think it gives anyone a right to drag that person through the mud when they depart us.

[Petro-Sooner]

See yaaaaaa.

[rainiersooner]

:pop:

[Petro-Sooner]

America is better off.

[def_lazer_fc]

America is better off.

what if the same sentiments were expressed to any of your family members?

[olevetonahill]

i think everyone can agree that he ****ed up and made a horrible decision that day, but i dont think it gives anyone a right to drag that person through the mud when they depart us.

No he dint Just make a horrible decision that day.
He Killed a Young woman, whom he was banging, while he was married then. Swam off and left her carcass in the car . Cryed to his family to protect him
Im glad hes gone.
I do Hope he Can.
R.I.P. tho

[olevetonahill]

i think everyone can agree that he ****ed up and made a horrible decision that day, but i dont think it gives anyone a right to drag that person through the mud when they depart us.

Oh and did Yall see his Plea the other day ?
He was wanting The Mass. Gov. er something to Bypass the replacement policy that HE Himself helped set in place . so a new Dem. Sen, could take his place.:rolleyes:

[Petro-Sooner]

See yaaaaaa

[boomerinhou]

RIP

[Mixer!]

I wonder if he'll be buried in an upside-down Oldsmobile Delmont 88?



RIP Camelot (it's only a model).

[olevetonahill]

Politics really doesn't matter at this point. The last remaining (and surviving) Kennedy brother is dead. The Kennedys, like them or not, were a big part of the 20th century American fabric.

I might not have believed in Ted Kennedy's politics, and I do believe he could have left a better personal legacy for himself, but I certainly had respect for him as a human being and as an American.

RIP

yes they were a Big part of American Politics John and Bobby Mid century
Ted the last 1/2
Thank God they are gone

[olevetonahill]

I sincerely Hope they are All R.I.P.

[def_lazer_fc]

I sincerely Hope they are All R.I.P.

drink more

[SicEmBaylor]

Finally, the last Kennedy is out of national office. I hope to God it stays that way. And for the sake of bipartisanship, I'm not king on seeing another Bush in a Federal office either.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Finally, the last Kennedy is out of national office. I hope to God it stays that way. And for the sake of bipartisanship, I'm not king on seeing another Bush in a Federal office either.Esp after knowing Jeb Bush is an Amnesty Advocate, and after his Brother W pulled so much socialist crap, I don't thing we will have to worry about more Bush candidates anytime soon. There might be some downline Kennedys to rear their family' head again, though.

[SicEmBaylor]

Esp after knowing Jeb Bush is an Amnesty Advocate, and after his Brother W pulled so much socialist crap, I don't thing we will have to worry about more Bush candidates anytime soon. There might be some downline Kennedys to rear their family' head again, though.

There's George P. Bush. He's the one that really scares me.

[olevetonahill]

drink more

Dont be a condescending azz
I sincerely Hope and Pray that they all are Resting in peace

[olevetonahill]

Finally, the last Kennedy is out of national office. I hope to God it stays that way. And for the sake of bipartisanship, I'm not king on seeing another Bush in a Federal office either.

May the American Public , Never again appoint a Family Dynasty :cool:

[SicEmBaylor]

May the American Public , Never again appoint a Family Dynasty :cool:

Amen. As much as I love Reagan, I sure as hell wouldn't want Ron Reagan Jr. in the Oval. :eek:

[LosAngelesSooner]

RIP, Senator Kennedy.

[olevetonahill]

Amen. As much as I love Reagan, I sure as hell wouldn't want Ron Reagan Jr. in the Oval. :eek:

Reminds me of MY favorite Dog .
Bear . a Black Lab Mix
best Dog I ever had . He died
so I got another Black Lab Mix. Dumbest Dog I ever had :D
Ya cant go by Breed alone ;)

[beer4me]

well....bye (sorry curly bill didn't mean to steal your sig just borrowed it)

[LoyalFan]

I surely hope that St. Pete let Mary Jo personally shove the bastadge into the "Down" elevator.

LF

[85Sooner]

Let his judgment begin.

[swardboy]

Joan is smiling......

I'm sure the trophy wife will try to ride the family name into office.

[StoopTroup]

Finally, the last Kennedy is out of national office. I hope to God it stays that way. And for the sake of bipartisanship, I'm not king on seeing another Bush in a Federal office either.

Did you mean to say Keen?

Was watching the morning news this morning. Scanning through all of the different media outlets, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox....etc

Each one was working in the news between reshowing some of Sen. Kennedy's past famous speeches and folks who are being interviewed that knew him. CNN even had one of his nemesis who brought up how they remained friends over the years even though they were opposites in the Pro-life issues that divided them.

But not Fox and Friends.

I didn't care for Sen. Kennedy's positions most times...but I refuse to take shots at a guy on the day of his death.

I was a young boy when his Brothers were slaughtered and moving into my teens when Ted's Chappaquiddick incident went down. I was surprised at how he was able to overcome such an incident. I wasn't surprised when it cost him a shot at running for President though.

If you think you've seen the last Kennedy in politics...you are sadly mistaken SicEm.

The Kennedy's legacy of service is a part of American History that will never be forgotten. So much that I believe the Kennedy Family will continue to produce Family members who will strive to continue in their footsteps.

RLIMC's thread title is even more proof of the sour grapes that is currently dismantling the Republican Party.

Fox and Friends are interviewing Lou Holtz this morning as he decides whether or not to run for office. They have taken a shot at the "Cash for Clunkers" program and seem to be avoiding any Ted Kennedy coverage. Fair and Balanced seems to be a slogan of the past now that there is a Democratic strong hold in the White House and Congress.

I'd prefer a more subtle approach such as Sen. McCain tried to have yesterday in his Town Hall...but alas...the sour grapes crowd continues to make themselves look like *******s.

This thread seems to be full of sour grapes.

Pretty sad IMO.

[1890MilesToNorman]

Good riddance Fat Boy, you can't do any more harm to America now!

[Sooner24]

Well now I know what's going to be on tv for the next week.

[Boomer_Sooner_sax]

Sorry, but Washington is better off without him in there. I hate to see anyone die, but he was a perfect example of why term limits need to be in place.

[StoopTroup]

Sorry, but Washington is better off without him in there. I hate to see anyone die, but he was a perfect example of why term limits need to be in place.

I might even agree with you on this if in fact the sitting President would have done what he promised and put a stop to the endless stream of Lobby Money that steers these guys. Such a simple thing as term limits is easy to throw out there but watching the results of a single piece of legislation would lead to even more chaos is my guess. Term Limits seem to be the quick solution to get someone you don't like out of power...but would it really make for a better system? My guess is that it wouldn't. I used to think like you are...but my guess is that Obama stopped with the attacks on the lobbyist when the economy began to collapse. I think he got scared when he realized just how much power he was up against.

[King Crimson]

Esp after knowing Jeb Bush is an Amnesty Advocate, and after his Brother W pulled so much socialist crap, I don't thing we will have to worry about more Bush candidates anytime soon. There might be some downline Kennedys to rear their family' head again, though.

now W was a socialist. talk about having your thoughts over-determined by the people who hold the leash. when it was time to do so, i'm sure you believed that Operation Iraqi Freedom was about spreading democracy for moral purposes...too. the "noble lie" lives long, malleable and re-written every news cycle in your mind R.

don't forget Neil Bush who dodged criminal indictment in the Silverado Savings and Loan scandals only because GOP lobbyists plunked down 50,000$ for him.

[theresonly1OU]

C'mon guys, show some respect.

It's not like the guy got away with murder or anything.

oh, wait......

Seriously though, I pray that his family finds peace in this trying time. It's never easy to lose someone, and they deserve at least the ability to mourn their dead in a respectable manner.

But him? I hope he finds the same peace he gave Mary Jo when his drunk @$$ drove her to her death that day.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[AggieTool]

Does this mean we can finally have clean wind energy off the coast of Nantucket now?:confused:

[Veritas]

BIH, *******.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Tool actually made me laugh! 1st time for everything I guess.

[badger]

Regardless of how you feel politically about Ted Kennedy, his family lost a father, grandfather, uncle, etc., his friends lost a friend, the Senate lost a colleague, etc.

Set your politics aside, someone just died.

[Animal Mother]

Way to **** up a thread.



RIP Uncle Ted.

I hate to say it but I agree with you Turd.

[theresonly1OU]

Regardless of how you feel politically about Ted Kennedy, his family lost a father, grandfather, uncle, etc., his friends lost a friend, the Senate lost a colleague, etc.

Set your politics aside, someone just died.

Ok then, how about this:

I would like to express my condolences to the family...of Mary Joe Kopechne.


http://lordcrimson.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/chappaquiddick.jpg

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/uploads/Kopechne.jpg

Better?

[soonerhubs]

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[Animal Mother]

All the christian forgivness shown here(translation: pious judgement) makes me wanna........................ stay an atheist.

[JohnnyMack]

All the christian forgivness shown here(translation: pious judgement) makes me wanna........................ stay an atheist.

They're good little Christian republicans, aren't they?

[Mixer!]

"Christian"? This is Old Testament, son. 'Eye for an eye' and all that. ;)

[soonerhubs]

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[theresonly1OU]

It's not like Soonerfans is hosting his funeral or something. Sheesh!

:P


Oh, and please do keep your faith in the big bang, captain wise in your own eyes. :D

Don't discourage them; pointing out the lack of sympathy for the death of an unrepentant murderer as a cross-section of Christian "hypocrisy" is all they've got.

Yelling at them about it is like asking the one-trick pony to play dead. Not gonna happen.

[JohnnyMack]

"Christian"? This is Old Testament, son. 'Eye for an eye' and all that. ;)

Whichever one is more convenient. ;)

[Animal Mother]

It's not like Soonerfans is hosting his funeral or something. Sheesh!

:P


Oh, and please do keep your faith in the big bang, captain wise in your own eyes. :D

The big bang was in the bible? Oh yeah! Sodom and Gomorrah or however you spell those cities. I'm sure some fur covered legume filled sack will correct me if I'm incorrect.

[theresonly1OU]

The big bang was in the bible? Oh yeah! Sodom and Gomorrah or however you spell those cities. I'm sure some fur covered legume filled sack will correct me if I'm incorrect.

See kids, this is the point where you can be the better man/woman, and turn the other cheek.

IOW, don't take the bait.

[Mixer!]

fur covered legume

Wasn't that one of Blue Öyster Cult's alias names? :D

[Animal Mother]

Don't discourage them; pointing out the lack of sympathy for the death of an unrepentant murderer as a cross-section of Christian "hypocrisy" is all they've got.

Yelling at them about it is like asking the one-trick pony to play dead. Not gonna happen.

1. I don't see any caps in Hubler's response so who is yelling at me?

2. You assuming that Ted was unrepentant with no personal contact with him is like me saying you're an abortion that lived without meeting the doctor to ask him if he tried hard enough.

3. Your knowledge of Ted Kennedy comes from the devil worshipping liberal media and they are always wrong. So Ted must have really been in Burma the night he supposedly committed "murder".
See what I'm getting at Sparky? You can't have it both ways. Either the media is biased or they're not biased or there is a right-wing bias too.

Never mind. I know your receiver doesn't function.

[Animal Mother]

Wasn't that one of Blue Öyster Cult's alias names? :D

I believe it was!

Good one!

[StoopTroup]

You overcome learning disabilities, physical handicaps, and perhaps a few diseases that you fall victim to. I don't think what should have been at least vehicular manslaughter counts as something he had to "overcome".

To be fair though you did put the word "incident" in there. :D

Oh, and Sic'em: King versus Keen? Come on! Mrs. Johnson taught you better than that! ;)

Whatever happened that day at Chappaquiddick will be discussed at the Pearly Gates is my guess.

It seems your trying to hammer on me because I choose to let Senator Kennedy answer to God for the actions in his life.

[theresonly1OU]

Never mind. I know your receiver doesn't function.

My receiver's fine, sport. I've just got it set to filter out blathering from self-important internet trolls.

But thanks for playing.

[soonerhubs]

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[GrapevineSooner]

Regardless of how you feel politically about Ted Kennedy, his family lost a father, grandfather, uncle, etc., his friends lost a friend, the Senate lost a colleague, etc.

Set your politics aside, someone just died.

Gahgree.

Since Mary Jo's already been dragged into this thread, I'll just say it's not on me to judge Teddy on that now that he's passed away.

But I think I can judge him in the political arena.

He championed a great cause in civil rights. But he also slandered a very deserving judge in Robert Bork and helped prevent him from being named to the Supreme Court.

[GrapevineSooner]

Not to mention, I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. The last months of his life had to be hell on him and his family. And in his passing, I'm hoping his friends and family can find some comfort in knowing he's been relieved of his suffering.

But we shouldn't whitewash any dead politicians political record because of their death. Doesn't matter if it's Kennedy, Reagan, Nixon, etc.

[OklahomaTuba]

The interesting thing will be to see how his efforts to change the law to keep his senate seat safe work out.

[Animal Mother]

My receiver's fine, sport. I've just got it set to filter out blathering from self-important internet trolls.

But thanks for playing.

Oh that one really hurt spurt. Especially that "thanks for playing" dealio. I'm going to go call deen. Since my blathering is reaching you seems you better get that receiver out of your as* since your head and ears reside there already.

Your turn Sparky.

[StoopTroup]

Not to mention, I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. The last months of his life had to be hell on him and his family. And in his passing, I'm hoping his friends and family can find some comfort in knowing he's been relieved of his suffering.

But we shouldn't whitewash any dead politicians political record because of their death. Doesn't matter if it's Kennedy, Reagan, Nixon, etc.

My Wife's Mother passed away from the same thing Ted did.

Cancer sucks.

[GrapevineSooner]

My Wife's Mother passed away from the same thing Ted did.

Cancer sucks.

Kind of amazing how the same disease takes away a political and journalistic icon within the span of a week.

[GrapevineSooner]

The interesting thing will be to see how his efforts to change the law to keep his senate seat safe work out.

He could have avoided all this by simply resigning when his health took a turn for the worse. I understand he wanted to be a part of this major healthcare reform. But at some point, personal goals have to take a back seat to what's best for the people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

And it's not like the people of this very liberal state would have elected somebody who would have undone all the work he'd done up to this point.

[soonerscuba]

Cancer sucks, and rejoicing at dead father, uncle, and public servant that I know only through media is something which I think I will always be above, at least I hope so. Some of you need perspective.

[OklahomaTuba]

But at some point, personal goals have to take a back seat to what's best for the people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.Ask Mary Jo if Teddy ever gave a rats arse about what was best for anybody but Teddy. He should have been in Jail, not the US Senate.

The guy was scum. The fact he is held in such high regard by the left explains a lot.

RIP though. May he be quickly forgotten on earth and forgiven by our Lord Jesus. And his dream of a socialist utopia be given an even quicker death then what is happening now.

[Animal Mother]

Conclusion: We need more cowbell at both Atheist and Christian meetings in an effort to reach across the metaphorical aisle whilst mourning the loss of a leader who got away with bad things early in life to which the atheist implies may have been repented of in an effort to avoid his "fictitious hell" that JM and AM don't believe in anyways.

Don't fear the reaper!:eek:

Don't confuse me with well thought out replies and logic dude! Where did I imply this repentnace thangy?

[OklahomaTuba]

Cancer sucks, and rejoicing at dead father, uncle, and public servant that I know only through media is something which I think I will always be above, at least I hope so. Some of you need perspective.Seems that this thread is about nothing BUT perspective actually. If he had done the right thing and resigned from public office and turned himself in to account for his crimes, instead of showing nothing but disregard for the law and being above the rest of us thanks to his last name and wealth, maybe more people would feel differently??

[StoopTroup]

I guess I should throw this in for Hubler...

Mw6H3crLzpg

[soonerhubs]

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[Animal Mother]

Seems that this thread is about nothing BUT perspective actually. If he had done the right thing and resigned from public office and turned himself in to account for his crimes, instead of showing nothing but disregard for the law and being above the rest of us thanks to his last name and wealth, maybe more people would feel differently??

Uh oh! You and I have a little bit of agreement here! Apocalypse will be here before Labor Day! I agree with the perspective analogy. Objectivity is subjective. It depends upon whose ox has been gored. The rest is just how politicians dem or pub function. It's a good ol' boy network ESPECIALLY back in those days."If I can get away with it I didn't do it!" I do believe a few have wised up and confess early on but they still have ulterior motifs.... I mean ulterior motives.

[stoopified]

I feel soory for the Kennedy family but You can't truly discuss or even mention Teddy without the Chappaquiddick Bridge debacle. HE should have paid the price years ago.

[Animal Mother]

:D Now that is funny!

Animal Mother, check your spek. Again, it's the green one. ;)

Sorry Hubler. I don't know anything about that Greenland or Bolivia stuff. I think Cheney got into my account. I can't even look up my own posts and I think we all know how painfull that can be!

[soonerhubs]

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[StoopTroup]

The "let he who is without sin, cast the first tuba" incident is one of the most well-known lessons of the Bible.

[OULenexaman]

so how many dead Kennedy's are there??

[OklahomaTuba]

The "let he who is without sin, cast the first tuba" incident is one of the most well-known lessons of the Bible.Yup.

Too bad the folks who helped keep this country safe from terrorist attacks killing thousands more innocent Americans can't get the same "preferential" treatment as a guy with the last name of Kennedy got.

Just say'n. :cool:

[yermom]

it's too bad Bush didn't kill anyone getting his DUI in New England

him and Cheney have killed a lot more people than Teddy, maybe that could have all been avoided

[stoops the eternal pimp]

it's too bad Bush didn't kill anyone getting his DUI in New England

him and Cheney have killed a lot more people than Teddy, maybe that could have all been avoided

yermom just took this thread to a


hooo

nutta

level

[1890MilesToNorman]

Was Kennedy protecting the American people by driving his car off the bridge? What a stupid comment yermom.

[OklahomaTuba]

Nice. So driving drunk with your mistress off a bridge and letter said mistress drown while Teddy swims to shore to "run away" is equal to liberating a country from tyranny??

That's awesome.

[JohnnyMack]

liberating a country from tyranny??

That's awesome.

No. THAT'S awesome.

[Veritas]

No. THAT'S awesome.
No. That's AWESOME!

[Sooner04]

Can we get a politics forum, please?

[KC//CRIMSON]

Sending thousands of young men and women off to war to die based on a lie.

That's awesome.

No, THAT'S AWESOME!

[StoopTroup]

Can we get a politics forum, please?

Or...you could go hideout in the Basketball forum. :D ;)

[JohnnyMack]

No. That's AWESOME!

No. That's Incredible!

zFXtb9jBaBM

[StoopTroup]

No. That's Incredible!

zFXtb9jBaBM

You need to post this in the "A Precise Engineering Calculation" thread.

[Veritas]

That Cathy Lee Crosby gal is hot. I'd hit it.

[StoopTroup]

X2

[JohnnyMack]

ST and V chinese finger cuffing an aging 80s TV star.

Out.

[Veritas]

ST and V chinese finger cuffing an aging 80s TV star.

Out.
They call it a pig roast now, Mack, keep up.

[Oldnslo]

They call it a pig roast now, Mack, keep up.

I thought it was the ol' Eifel Tower? Or is that only if the dudes high five?

[StoopTroup]

ST and V chinese finger cuffing an aging 80s TV star.

Out.

We have her in our Death Pool. :D ;)

[Chuck Bao]

RIP, Teddy. We will miss you.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

now W was a socialist. talk about having your thoughts over-determined by the people who hold the leash. when it was time to do so, i'm sure you believed that Operation Iraqi Freedom was about spreading democracy for moral purposes...too. the "noble lie" lives long, malleable and re-written every news cycle in your mind R.

don't forget Neil Bush who dodged criminal indictment in the Silverado Savings and Loan scandals only because GOP lobbyists plunked down 50,000$ for him.Beauty. you haven't lost yer touch.

BTW, soonerscuba privately told me to stop posting. I'll have to think about that a while.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Can we get a politics forum, please?click?
don't click?



click?
don't click?



OMG
click?
don't click?



haha

[Partial Qualifier]

No. That's Incredible!



No...... That's Southwest Ford!

(showing my age here)

[SweetheartSooner]

Sorry my friend, I have Fox on all day - plenty of coverage of Sen. Kennedy. His passing is a big deal no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

RIP - May God have mercy - I have a feeling he's gonna need it.


Did you mean to say Keen?

Was watching the morning news this morning. Scanning through all of the different media outlets, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox....etc

Each one was working in the news between reshowing some of Sen. Kennedy's past famous speeches and folks who are being interviewed that knew him. CNN even had one of his nemesis who brought up how they remained friends over the years even though they were opposites in the Pro-life issues that divided them.

But not Fox and Friends.

I didn't care for Sen. Kennedy's positions most times...but I refuse to take shots at a guy on the day of his death.

I was a young boy when his Brothers were slaughtered and moving into my teens when Ted's Chappaquiddick incident went down. I was surprised at how he was able to overcome such an incident. I wasn't surprised when it cost him a shot at running for President though.

If you think you've seen the last Kennedy in politics...you are sadly mistaken SicEm.

The Kennedy's legacy of service is a part of American History that will never be forgotten. So much that I believe the Kennedy Family will continue to produce Family members who will strive to continue in their footsteps.

RLIMC's thread title is even more proof of the sour grapes that is currently dismantling the Republican Party.

Fox and Friends are interviewing Lou Holtz this morning as he decides whether or not to run for office. They have taken a shot at the "Cash for Clunkers" program and seem to be avoiding any Ted Kennedy coverage. Fair and Balanced seems to be a slogan of the past now that there is a Democratic strong hold in the White House and Congress.

I'd prefer a more subtle approach such as Sen. McCain tried to have yesterday in his Town Hall...but alas...the sour grapes crowd continues to make themselves look like *******s.

This thread seems to be full of sour grapes.

Pretty sad IMO.

[MrJimBeam]

Imagine the stress this guy went through in his life. The tragedies he faced I wouldn't wish on anyone. He buried three brothers, two at the hands of assassins. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher but with the exception of one act he was no coward. That one act showed a horrible character flaw. R.I.P.

[AggieTool]

Was Kennedy protecting the American people by driving his car off the bridge? What a stupid comment yermom.

Ummmm.....

Protecting 'Merica from what exactly?:confused:

[Frozen Sooner]

AWESOME!

^
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!
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THAT's AWESOME!

[AggieTool]

Nice. So driving drunk with your mistress off a bridge and letter said mistress drown while Teddy swims to shore to "run away" is equal to liberating a country from tyranny??

That's awesome.

No, it's equal to yellow cake, aluminum tubes, and paying insurgents not to blow up our troops.:(

[SicEmBaylor]

You overcome learning disabilities, physical handicaps, and perhaps a few diseases that you fall victim to. I don't think what should have been at least vehicular manslaughter counts as something he had to "overcome".

To be fair though you did put the word "incident" in there. :D

Oh, and Sic'em: King versus Keen? Come on! Mrs. Johnson taught you better than that! ;)

lol, yes she did. She just never taught me to proofread my posts. ;) I just type and whatever makes it out there is what I go with. :D

[1890MilesToNorman]

Ummmm.....

Protecting 'Merica from what exactly?:confused:

Read the ****ing thread!

[CrimsonJim]

Tool isn't real good at the reading part of this message board delio.

[AggieTool]

Read the ****ing thread!

Protecting us from Ted Kennedy?:confused:

[OklahomaTuba]

The Onion's on it..

'Kennedy Curse' Claims Life Of 77-Year-Old Tumor-Riddled Binge-Drinkerhttp://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/kennedy_curse_claims_life_of?utm_source=a-section

[beer4me]

Protecting us from Ted Kennedy?:confused:

Not anymore:P

[Tulsa_Fireman]

He ain't no Michael Jackson, by lawd!

[StoopTroup]

lol, yes she did. She just never taught me to proofread my posts. ;) I just type and whatever makes it out there is what I go with. :D

I expect better from a Professional Student. :D

[yermom]

The Onion's on it..
http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/kennedy_curse_claims_life_of?utm_source=a-section

The Onion is stealing my material :(

i know i made that joke when he was diagnosed

[JLEW1818]

5 stars

[CrimsonJim]

More stars, more fun!

http://www.jaunted.com/files/16133/Six_Flags_Guy_2.jpg

[Curly Bill]

well....bye (sorry curly bill didn't mean to steal your sig just borrowed it)

Quite OK, and appropriate in this case.

[theresonly1OU]

As long as CNN keeps talking about camelot, I'm going to keep talking about the lady in the lake.

Jus' sayin.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

As long as CNN keeps talking about camelot, I'm going to keep talking about the lady in the lake.

Jus' sayin.Doesn't the MSM's Kennedy Camelot refer only to the family values maririage between John Kennedy and Jackie Bouvier?

[KABOOKIE]

Ted! You're not dead!

[CK Sooner]

Wow, some of you guys are ****ed up.

[My Opinion Matters]

Really classy thread.

[AggieTool]

Really classy thread.

Betcha I can top it.:D

[Turd_Ferguson]

Really classy thread.so what's your point? Did one of your troll's get bained?

[SoonerBorn68]

Really classy thread.

My thoughts exactly. A "classy" guy needed a "classy" thread.

Enjoy the dirt nap Ted.

[KABOOKIE]

The fight lives on!!!

[jkjsooner]

There is a place and time for everything. Criticize his politics or his actions all you want but please pick the proper time. This is not it.

Criticizing Kennedy at this moment shows a lack of respect and class and it serves no purpose whatsoever.

[SoonerBorn68]

...for 7 pages.

[CK Sooner]

There is a place and time for everything. Criticize his politics or his actions all you want but please pick the proper time. This is not it.

Criticizing Kennedy at this moment shows a lack of respect and class and it serves no purpose whatsoever.

This!

[sooner ngintunr]

Criticizing Kennedy at this moment shows a lack of respect and class and it serves no purpose whatsoever.

neither one of these exist in the SO, keep up.

[GrapevineSooner]

There is a place and time for everything. Criticize his politics or his actions all you want but please pick the proper time. This is not it.

Criticizing Kennedy at this moment shows a lack of respect and class and it serves no purpose whatsoever.

I disagree.

I paid my respects to Ted Kennedy the man. But his death doesn't whitewash his record. And criticisms of that record can be made in a respectful tone.

[bluewcc]

Why exactly did my thread asking why he deserves a plot in Arlington get deleted?

[Turd_Ferguson]

Why exactly did my thread asking why he deserves a plot in Arlington get deleted?don't know, but I thought he was a Veteran.:confused:

[olevetonahill]

There is a place and time for everything. Criticize his politics or his actions all you want but please pick the proper time. This is not it.

Criticizing Kennedy at this moment shows a lack of respect and class and it serves no purpose whatsoever.

The man deserves No respect.
What Class did he ever show ?

Im sorry, Im not gonna get my panties in wad because
hes dead.
And If if you try to tell me that you are genuinely upset about his death . Im gonna say yer full of it .:rolleyes:

[bluewcc]

Good enough, if he was. Though I still don't think the rest of his life merits burial next to true heroes. And that still doesn't explain the deletion of my thread.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Good enough, if he was. Though I still don't think the rest of his life merits burial next to true heroes. And that still doesn't explain the deletion of my thread.Agree.

[olevetonahill]

don't know, but I thought he was a Veteran.:confused:

From Wiki

Kennedy enlisted in the United States Army in June 1951.[10] Following basic training at Fort Dix, he requested assignment to Fort Holabird for Army Intelligence training, but was dropped after a few weeks without explanation.[10] He went to Camp Gordon for training in the Military Police Corps.[10] In June 1952, he was assigned to the honor guard at SHAPE headquarters in Paris.[4][10] His father's political connections ensured he was not deployed to the ongoing Korean War.[4][11] While stationed in Europe he travelled extensively on weekends and climbed the Matterhorn.[12] He was discharged in March 1953 as a private first class.[10][12]

[Turd_Ferguson]

From Wiki

Kennedy enlisted in the United States Army in June 1951.[10] Following basic training at Fort Dix, he requested assignment to Fort Holabird for Army Intelligence training, but was dropped after a few weeks without explanation.[10] He went to Camp Gordon for training in the Military Police Corps.[10] In June 1952, he was assigned to the honor guard at SHAPE headquarters in Paris.[4][10] His father's political connections ensured he was not deployed to the ongoing Korean War.[4][11] While stationed in Europe he travelled extensively on weekends and climbed the Matterhorn.[12] He was discharged in March 1953 as a private first class.[10][12]Figger's. However, since I've never been in the military, I'm not at liberty to say he's not a true Veteran.:)

[ouwasp]

Hope Ted made peace with God. I can't believe the folks from MA kept sending him back.....but it's over with now. Now it'll be a few days until it gets off the news cycle.

Football season can't get here fast enough.

[sooner ngintunr]

don't know, but I thought he was a Veteran.:confused:

regular old veterans are last on the list for Arlington, in fact most vets (I'm one) aren't even eligible....not even close, but I aint complaining about my eligibility one bit. I hardly deserve a plot on that sacred ground.

The only reason he is eligible is that he was an elected official (and a veteran).

Its my opinion that being elected to public office does not make you special as far as veterans treatment goes, so I understand why some people wouldn't think that he deserves a plot there. According to the regs, he does. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with the regs.

[bluewcc]

Figger's. However, since I've never been in the military, I'm not at liberty to say he's not a true Veteran.:)

I've never been in the military either, but I'll be damned if that qualifies as true active duty and deserves burial among heroes at a holy place like Arlington.

[Turd_Ferguson]

regular old veterans are last on the list for Arlington, in fact most vets (like me) aren't even eligible....not even close, and I aint complaining about my eligibility one bit.

The only reason he is eligible is that he was an elected official (and a veteran).Nepotism, cradle to grave. Whaddaya gonna do:rolleyes:

[Turd_Ferguson]

I've never been in the military either, but I'll be damned if that qualifies as true active duty and deserves burial among heroes at a holy place like Arlington.see my last post.

[bluewcc]

see my last post.

I'm sure nepotism is to blame for a whole lotta **** that's ****ed up in this world. It just really burns my *** that the military is allowing him to be laid to rest there, when IMO he has done NOTHING to deserve it. It is something special to be buried in Arlington, and his rotting corpse there just takes away from every soldier who is there already or will ever be buried there.

[sooner ngintunr]

Nepotism, cradle to grave. Whaddaya gonna do:rolleyes:

yeah, maybe.:rolleyes:

"His father's political connections ensured he was not deployed to the ongoing Korean War. While stationed in Europe he travelled extensively on weekends and climbed the Matterhorn"

I have rank on his ***, and I was a shortimer when I started.:D

[soonerscuba]

Why exactly did my thread asking why he deserves a plot in Arlington get deleted?Because it was classless, repetitive tripe. To further answer your question, because any member of the armed forces who later goes on to an elective office of the federal gov't is eligible, as are Supreme Court justices and level I & II executive schedule employees (Cabinet members, and some other presidential appointments).

[sooner ngintunr]

And you know how to change that rule, right? petiton YOUR congress!!!!


oh wait, that whole nepotism thing makes sense now.

[bluewcc]

Because it was classless, repetitive tripe. To further answer your question, because any member of the armed forces who later goes on to an elective office of the federal gov't is eligible, as are Supreme Court justices and level I & II executive schedule employees (Cabinet members, and some other presidential appointments).

Thanks for your answer. That's why I asked. I wanted to know. As far as classless, repetitive tripe, Really? On this board, my post was classless, repetitive tripe? OK, I guess.

[rainiersooner]

Hmmm, so I'm getting the sense that this is a "conservative" board.

You guys pissing on Kennedy are pathetic, sorry. I mourned Reagan's death even though I consider myself a centrist. I mourn the passing of the Kennedy family in the same way. I have great respect for people of all political persuasions who have devoted their life to public service. The rest of you should go beat off to a picture of Glen Beck or Keith Olberman. Either way you're not contributing to anything but your own petty and narrow minded prejudices. Aside from that - Boomer! Let's kill BYU!!

[Fraggle145]

Hmmm, so I'm getting the sense that this is a "conservative" board.

You guys pissing on Kennedy are pathetic, sorry. I mourned Reagan's death even though I consider myself a centrist. I mourn the passing of the Kennedy family in the same way. I have great respect for people of all political persuasions who have devoted their life to public service. The rest of you should go beat off to a picture of Glen Beck or Keith Olberman. Either way you're not contributing to anything but your own petty and narrow minded prejudices. Aside from that - Boomer! Let's kill BYU!!

It goes both ways. The loudest or most vocal usually depends on who is "losing".

[rainiersooner]

it does go both ways. thus the glen beck/keith olberman comment. it's sad either way in my opinion.

[soonerhubs]

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[C&CDean]

Alls I know is that the boy never gave a speech. He just yelled a lot.

Condolences to his family and all that stuff. Condolences to Mary Jo's family as well. Now maybe they can have a hunk of that "closure" folks seem to always be needing.

[OklahomaTuba]

You guys pissing on Kennedy are pathetic, sorry. I mourned Reagan's death even though I consider myself a centrist. I mourn the passing of the Kennedy family in the same way.
Most people understand there is a HUGE difference between Reagan and Ted Kennedy. Reagan wasn't a law-evading homicidal alcoholic is one difference that comes to mind.

If you want a real good idea of what kind of person he was, try this GQ article from 1990 on for size. Amazing stuff..

http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_5585

[TUSooner]

I'm trying not to jump into the usual juvenile shenanigans around here, and I haven't read any other posts. (Sorry, I guess I should, as penance for my various sins, if for no other reason). And I'm not saying anything bad about Ted Kennedy the person; it seems even his opponents in politics and the Senate respected the guy.
Here's what made me post. Some NPR news person made a passing comment about Ted Kennedy's "compassion" for the "less fortunate" despite his massive wealth, and I started thinking.

Here's a guy born with money dripping out his wazoo. Money that he didn't lift a finger to earn. (I guess most of it came from illegal booze running, but it should never have been illegal so I'll leave that alone.) We're talking about great, massive, humongous, ginormous gobs of money, and all the privilege it could buy and did buy. So I'm figuring Ted kennedy probably gave a large amount of his own money to genuinely worthy causes. It was certainly more as flat amount, and probaly more as percettage of income, than I've ever given away, but it was not enough to make even a tiny scratch in the regal Kennedy lifestyle. Rather, his perceived "compassion" appears to have come from his political activity on behalf of the "poor". Thus, the activity that earned him his reputation as "compassionate" mostly involved giving away...(you guessed it) other peoples' money!
Now, is that really "compassion"? Depend on this -- If I could be compassionate by spending your money, without it having any effect on my lifestyle (which is as not-like-a-Kennedy's as it gets), then I would make myself a saint !!
That seems to be the essential hypocrisy of modern liberalism -- compelling other people to "do good" at no cost to yourself.

(There's a nifty sort-of counterargument to that with regard to conservatism, but I'll leave it for another day.)

[jkjsooner]

The fact that some of us refuse to canonize a career politician shouldn't be that bad of a thing should it?

I'm assuming you know that there's a middle ground between canonizing someone and using his death as a trigger for insults and criticisms, right?

The easiest option is to remain quiet. Heck, even criticize in a thread that doesn't being "xxxx finally dies."

[yermom]

or one could say that they can see that it doesn't hurt one's opulent lifestyle too much to help out the less fortunate. i mean if they raise taxes on the rich, that affects them as well, right?

i kinda object to the idea that "liberalism compassion" is mostly about taxing the rich to give to the poor

[soonerhubs]

.

[KABOOKIE]

I wonder who Ted will vote for in the next Presidential election?

[Fraggle145]

I wonder who Ted will vote for in the next Presidential election?

yermom.

[KABOOKIE]

I'd vote for yermom too.

[yermom]

i'll totally be legal in 2012

Vote Yermom!

[KABOOKIE]

You weren't born in Kalifornia were you? Just trying to make sure your citizenship is OK.

[Chuck Bao]

I'm trying not to jump into the usual juvenile shenanigans around here, and I haven't read any other posts. (Sorry, I guess I should, as penance for my various sins, if for no other reason). And I'm not saying anything bad about Ted Kennedy the person; it seems even his opponents in politics and the Senate respected the guy.
Here's what made me post. Some NPR news person made a passing comment about Ted Kennedy's "compassion" for the "less fortunate" despite his massive wealth, and I started thinking.

Here's a guy born with money dripping out his wazoo. Money that he didn't lift a finger to earn. (I guess most of it came from illegal booze running, but it should never have been illegal so I'll leave that alone.) We're talking about great, massive, humongous, ginormous gobs of money, and all the privilege it could buy and did buy. So I'm figuring Ted kennedy probably gave a large amount of his own money to genuinely worthy causes. It was certainly more as flat amount, and probaly more as percettage of income, than I've ever given away, but it was not enough to make even a tiny scratch in the regal Kennedy lifestyle. Rather, his perceived "compassion" appears to have come from his political activity on behalf of the "poor". Thus, the activity that earned him his reputation as "compassionate" mostly involved giving away...(you guessed it) other peoples' money!
Now, is that really "compassion"? Depend on this -- If I could be compassionate by spending your money, without it having any effect on my lifestyle (which is as not-like-a-Kennedy's as it gets), then I would make myself a saint !!
That seems to be the essential hypocrisy of modern liberalism -- compelling other people to "do good" at no cost to yourself.

(There's a nifty sort-of counterargument to that with regard to conservatism, but I'll leave it for another day.)

I agree with what you are saying. The ultra rich and high profile people, like Hollywood, have to been seen as compassionate and supporting the poor. The Kennedy clan, love them or hate them, epitomized the rich doing their service to help those less fortunate for the last 40 years. That is not such a bad thing, as many make it out to be.

Essentially, the ultra rich have to put on airs of compassion and that clashes with the upper middle class, who aspire to be the new rich. My sympathies lie with the latter, but frankly speaking I’m getting really turned off by the scare tactics and stories about “welfare queens” that are having all that sex and them babies and those abortions on the state’s dime. Dammit, make the argument about economics and stop the whole Chicken Little, crybaby, somebody-is-doing-me-wrong thing. Besides, our capitalistic system isn’t perfect, just look at Wall Street. Welfare Queens have nothing over these shysters.

[49r]

Despite the fact that I never really agreed with his politics or his lifestyle, I am saddened to see him (just as much as I would anyone else) go. But we all do it eventually, so RIP Ted.

[yermom]

You weren't born in Kalifornia were you? Just trying to make sure your citizenship is OK.

Tulsa

but i have no idea where my birth certificate is :eek:

[Breadburner]

The original waterboarder is gone.....

[Fraggle145]

Tulsa

but i have no idea where my birth certificate is :eek:

NAZI!!! :eek:

[Half a Hundred]

I agree with what you are saying. The ultra rich and high profile people, like Hollywood, have to been seen as compassionate and supporting the poor. The Kennedy clan, love them or hate them, epitomized the rich doing their service to help those less fortunate for the last 40 years. That is not such a bad thing, as many make it out to be.

Essentially, the ultra rich have to put on airs of compassion and that clashes with the upper middle class, who aspire to be the new rich. My sympathies lie with the latter, but frankly speaking I’m getting really turned off by the scare tactics and stories about “welfare queens” that are having all that sex and them babies and those abortions on the state’s dime. Dammit, make the argument about economics and stop the whole Chicken Little, crybaby, somebody-is-doing-me-wrong thing. Besides, our capitalistic system isn’t perfect, just look at Wall Street. Welfare Queens have nothing over these shysters.

Noblesse oblige is a very old concept. It's also one that seems to have been forgotten by many in this country. No matter what you might say about them otherwise, it's one that the Kennedys consistently emphasized and put into action.

[Chuck Bao]

NAZI!!! :eek:

birther!

I'd vote for yermom for President even if he were conceived by same-sex ETs in a test tube in a galaxy far, far away.

[StoopTroup]

I'm trying not to jump into the usual juvenile shenanigans around here, and I haven't read any other posts. (Sorry, I guess I should, as penance for my various sins, if for no other reason). And I'm not saying anything bad about Ted Kennedy the person; it seems even his opponents in politics and the Senate respected the guy.
Here's what made me post. Some NPR news person made a passing comment about Ted Kennedy's "compassion" for the "less fortunate" despite his massive wealth, and I started thinking.

Here's a guy born with money dripping out his wazoo. Money that he didn't lift a finger to earn. (I guess most of it came from illegal booze running, but it should never have been illegal so I'll leave that alone.) We're talking about great, massive, humongous, ginormous gobs of money, and all the privilege it could buy and did buy. So I'm figuring Ted kennedy probably gave a large amount of his own money to genuinely worthy causes. It was certainly more as flat amount, and probaly more as percettage of income, than I've ever given away, but it was not enough to make even a tiny scratch in the regal Kennedy lifestyle. Rather, his perceived "compassion" appears to have come from his political activity on behalf of the "poor". Thus, the activity that earned him his reputation as "compassionate" mostly involved giving away...(you guessed it) other peoples' money!
Now, is that really "compassion"? Depend on this -- If I could be compassionate by spending your money, without it having any effect on my lifestyle (which is as not-like-a-Kennedy's as it gets), then I would make myself a saint !!
That seems to be the essential hypocrisy of modern liberalism -- compelling other people to "do good" at no cost to yourself.

(There's a nifty sort-of counterargument to that with regard to conservatism, but I'll leave it for another day.)

They did an interview a few years back with Rockefeller. He was asked about his charitable donations and why he did it the way he does now. From what I remember...he told of his Father or Grandfather I forget the Rockefeller time line. Anyway...he gave away dimes during the Depression. He soon realized that he could stand there night and day, 7 days a week and not put a dent in the need that was there. They then decided to donate and make trusts with the dough.

Charity should be something private IMO. Most people who are real need don't want to be on the front page of the news having some rich guy handing him a few bucks to get by and the rich who give mostly don't want to be recognized either.

The Kennedy's giving of Charity do not interest me in the least and it should be something that shouldn't be reported unless it appeared as a tax deduction..

John, Robert and even Ted devoted their lives to Politics. As it was stated by you...they didn't need to do it either. Now all three of them have past into America's History books. Two of them went way to early. If I was to put myself in Ted's shoes...I would have wanted to honor my two fallen Brothers in some way by following them into Public Service.

Ted did exactly that.

Your not going to ever make everybody happy in politics...and if you were to try...I'm thinking you wouldn't last long trying.

I think the guy should be given a decent send off.

I also think it was pretty callous to hear Rush Limbaugh laughing about whether or not the Kennedy Family was listening to his show while en-route today.

If you hated the guy...he's gone.

That should be about all you have to say about that IMO. Anything else just seems kind of crass.

Please don't take this as ridicule either...

I'm just sayin'

[soonerloyal]

There hasn't been a time since it happened that when Ted Kennedy's name is mentioned that I don't think also about Miss Kopechne. And yeah, just like his brothers, he should've kept his thing in his pants, or at least out only for his wives.

That said, no other American family with so much has fought so hard for so many who have little. And their personal tragedies and losses are particularly severe.

A family has lost a father, brother, nephew, uncle and leader. Like it or not, like him or not, one of the most dedicated and ferocious fighters for the "common man" has passed on.

It's a legitimate loss. Thanks for trying to help us, Teddy. God be with those who loved you. God bless.

[Okla-homey]

I have never endorsed the awe with which some people view the Kennedys. Joe Sr. made his money illegally running booze across from Canada during Prohibition. Why would anyone admire that? Their political power is solely based in all that ill-gotten money. The Kennedys thought that money gave them the right to do anything they darn-well pleased. When you worship and/or admire the Kennedys, you are essentially admiring a mob family that cleaned up its act...just a little.

All the showy philanthropy in the world doesn't change the facts.

We are still paying for Ted Kennedy's tinkering with immigration law starting back around 1965. Ted's family made sure he got away with homicide in 1969. That's not to mention he was dismissed from Harvard for cheating on an exam in 1951, but his daddy fixed it and he was allowed to return after a brief stint in the Army --far from Korea, and eventually graduate.

[TMcGee86]

CaiTipTtbak&eurl=http://www.examiner.com/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Ted-Kennedy-loved-to-hear-and-tell-Chappaquiddick-jokes&feature=player_embedded#t

I was of the opinion that the man should RIP until I heard that clip this morning.


Burn in hell Ted Kennedy.

[TMcGee86]

Heh at the picture: http://www.examiner.com/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m8d27-Ted-Kennedy-loved-to-hear-and-tell-Chappaquiddick-jokes

Yet another reason, Tulsa >>>>>> OKC. ;)

[KABOOKIE]

Ha! So good old Teddy could have been a SO poster?

[sooneron]

I can't really say that I am torn on this subject because I was raised by democrats that weren't so fond of Teddy. Probably because of Chappaquidick or because of his other antics in his earlier private life.
Personally, I think he was in office way too long. I think 3 terms is plenty and he was there for a ridiculously long amount of time (3X that). I do think the teeth gnashing over him and ill wishes to him by people here that did not know him is petty and cheap. Yeah, yeah, I know, SO. Whatever. I have never found definitive info on what happened that night back in 1969. No one will ever know, because Ted said this that seemed fishy (pardon the pun) or that...
I think he did something stupid which piled upon more stupidity once the car was in the drink (yet another pun).
I'm not even sure if he would have done time back in those days as drunk driving was something that wasn't a hot topic and it wasn't heavily prosecuted as far as I know.

Many of you former W worshippers can't call into question his military service without looking like total hypocrites. They both reeked of privilege being guaranteed to stay out of harm's way.
Ted can't help whom he was born to, so knocking him for Joe's transgressions back during prohibition (which was ridiculously stupid to begin with) is a little pointless. Not to mention, I guess we should all knock B Switzer with the same point of view. His dad just wasn't as good at it.

I don't canonize Ted and I don't spit on his grave like so many here seem to want to do without actually knowing him or having been wronged by him directly.
He was a sad figure in many ways in American history. He was the younger brother that seemed to be the weak link of the 4. That must have tough to live up to and I bet it had a lot to do with his destructive behavior. Dislike his policies, fine, but show a little humanity to someone that just lost the battle to cancer.

RIP Ted.

[StoopTroup]

I have never endorsed the awe with which some people view the Kennedys. Joe Sr. made his money illegally running booze across from Canada during Prohibition. Why would anyone admire that? Their political power is solely based in all that ill-gotten money. The Kennedys thought that money gave them the right to do anything they darn-well pleased. When you worship and/or admire the Kennedys, you are essentially admiring a mob family that cleaned up its act...just a little.

All the showy philanthropy in the world doesn't change the facts.

We are still paying for Ted Kennedy's tinkering with immigration law starting back around 1965. Ted's family made sure he got away with homicide in 1969. That's not to mention he was dismissed from Harvard for cheating on an exam in 1951, but his daddy fixed it and he was allowed to return after a brief stint in the Army --far from Korea, and eventually graduate.

So there was penance for their sins...you do know they were Catholic right. It's in their makeup and then there's the deal about the one without sin casting the first stone. Stuff like that is big in their circles too.

I can agree with you that the guy made many mistakes...and he had friends and acquaintances who made plenty too.

As far as a Mob Family? It was legal before prohibition right? I think there were plenty of moonshiners, speakeasy's and rum runners everywhere.

I know some very nice older ladies that used to drive up to Kansas back in the day to buy the wine for Mass when you weren't supposed to be able to have it in Oklahoma. They also were absolved of their sins and did the proper penance for them too.

[VeeJay]

Condolences to his family. I am sure there are some good ones in there someplace. Maybe some of the Skakel faction are decent folk - I dunno. This Lovefest for Ted we've been watching for three hours is nice and all. Recollections of Ted and how great a man he was.

That video of Ted on his sailing yacht really touched my heart. I am wondering what percentage of America is fighting off a gigantic collective hurl right now at the pure nausea of it all.

I guess Dean Wormer was wrong after all these years: Fat, drunk and stupid is a way to go through life.

[VeeJay]

What's up with this whole Boston Community Chorus gig?

I'm thinking they need to crank up some Skynyrd. Ted's life was more akin to the character in "Gimme Three Steps."

[Okla-homey]

As far as a Mob Family? It was legal before prohibition right? I think there were plenty of moonshiners, speakeasy's and rum runners everywhere.

I know some very nice older ladies that used to drive up to Kansas back in the day to buy the wine for Mass when you weren't supposed to be able to have it in Oklahoma. They also were absolved of their sins and did the proper penance for them too.


Joe Kennedy wasn't smuggling sacramental wine.

He was bringing in Calverts whisky from Canada, along with scotch and gin from the UK. Frankly, that's also partially why he got the nod from the Palace to become the US Ambassador to the UK before the war -- he bought massive quantities of liquor from UK distillers he smuggled into he US in violation of our laws.

Of couse, he screwed that ambassadorship up because he opined "democracy is finished in the UK," which prompted his unceremonious resignation.

When the American public and Roosevelt Administration officials read his quotes on democracy being "finished", and his belief that the Battle of Britain wasn't about "fighting for democracy," all of it being just "bunk", they realized that Ambassador Kennedy could not be trusted to represent the United States. In the face of national public outcry, he was offered the chance to fall on his sword, and he submitted his resignation later that month.

He was also a world-class anti-semite.

The bottomline is, he was a crook. And he became phenomanally wealthy by carrying on illegal activities.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I can't believe some of the cheap shots ... really bush league.

Speaking of bush league, no one has mentioned ted Kennedy's most serious flaw: Too often reaching across the aisle and working with Bush's people. Dubya's No Child Left Behind is an Eastern European Bureaucrat's wet dream if there ever was one. And Kennedy bought into it.

Then there's that Medicare Prescription Drug Act on which he worked with the pubs .... and now the taxpayers are stuck with paying for all the meds those old f**kers over at the Posse Hideout take.;)

Quit blaming Kennedy for the Bork fail. Bork hanged himself with his arrogance. Never has there been a nominee who so loudly proclaimed, "how dare you ask questions of me. I'm the most qualified M-f**ker ever."

[olevetonahill]

I can't believe some of the cheap shots ... really bush league.

Speaking of bush league, no one has mentioned ted Kennedy's most serious flaw: Too often reaching across the aisle and working with Bush's people. Dubya's No Child Left Behind is an Eastern European Bureaucrat's wet dream is there ever was one. And Kennedy bought into it.

Then there's that Medicare Prescription Drug Act on which he worked with the pubs .... and now the taxpayers are stuck with paying for all the meds those old f**kers over at the Posse Hideout take.;)


Up yurs jaun
Quit blaming Kennedy for the Bork fail. Bork hanged himself with his arrogance. Never has there been a nominee who so loudly proclaimed, "how dare you ask questions of me. I'm the most qualified M-f**ker ever."

:rolleyes:

[Crucifax Autumn]

Wow. This guy gets away with more direct personal attacks than Henny Youngman!

[SanJoaquinSooner]

:rolleyes:

take your sleeping pills. it's late in lil' dixie.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Fat, drunk and stupid is a way to go through life.

Hey, take away the stupid and it really is a way...and more fun!

[olevetonahill]

take your sleeping pills. it's late in lil' dixie.

Yer no longer Baind jaun :eek:

[olevetonahill]

Wow. This guy gets away with more direct personal attacks than Henny Youngman!

No shat Bro .:pop:

[Crucifax Autumn]

Of course now he'll say we're even older since we know who Henny Youngman is! lmao

[SicEmBaylor]

Joe Kennedy wasn't smuggling sacramental wine.

He was bringing in Calverts whisky from Canada, along with scotch and gin from the UK. Frankly, that's also partially why he got the nod from the Palace to become the US Ambassador to the UK before the war -- he bought massive quantities of liquor from UK distillers he smuggled into he US in violation of our laws.

Of couse, he screwed that ambassadorship up because he opined "democracy is finished in the UK," which prompted his unceremonious resignation.

When the American public and Roosevelt Administration officials read his quotes on democracy being "finished", and his belief that the Battle of Britain wasn't about "fighting for democracy," all of it being just "bunk", they realized that Ambassador Kennedy could not be trusted to represent the United States. In the face of national public outcry, he was offered the chance to fall on his sword, and he submitted his resignation later that month.

He was also a world-class anti-semite.

The bottomline is, he was a crook. And he became phenomanally wealthy by carrying on illegal activities.

So, is it every son of a bootlegger you hate or is this tirade just because he's a Kennedy?

[StoopTroup]

Joe Kennedy wasn't smuggling sacramental wine.

He was bringing in Calverts whisky from Canada, along with scotch and gin from the UK. Frankly, that's also partially why he got the nod from the Palace to become the US Ambassador to the UK before the war -- he bought massive quantities of liquor from UK distillers he smuggled into he US in violation of our laws.

Of couse, he screwed that ambassadorship up because he opined "democracy is finished in the UK," which prompted his unceremonious resignation.

When the American public and Roosevelt Administration officials read his quotes on democracy being "finished", and his belief that the Battle of Britain wasn't about "fighting for democracy," all of it being just "bunk", they realized that Ambassador Kennedy could not be trusted to represent the United States. In the face of national public outcry, he was offered the chance to fall on his sword, and he submitted his resignation later that month.

He was also a world-class anti-semite.

The bottomline is, he was a crook. And he became phenomanally wealthy by carrying on illegal activities.

Well....duh Joe was a bootlegger not a Public Servant. They tried to make him something he wasn't.

BTW...I don't know if it's true or not but to get him out...did they promise him a monopoly on receiving payment for every drop of Scotch imported into the U.S.?

I heard that that is how his Family amassed the good part of their dough.

[Okla-homey]

BTW...I don't know if it's true or not but to get him out...did they promise him a monopoly on receiving payment for every drop of Scotch imported into the U.S.?

I heard that that is how his Family amassed the good part of their dough.

"Every drop" is a stretch. But by the time Prohibition finally ended and liquor could again be legally imported, I've read the family had wrapped-up exclusive US distribution rights to products of several major British and Canadian distilleries.

Joe Sr also made a ton on real estate during the Depression. He had the tremendous wealth and the liquidity from his decades of rum-running to buy entire city blocks and by the time things started turning around in 1942, he was set to make a killing in real estate.

[1890MilesToNorman]

So, is it every son of a bootlegger you hate or is this tirade just because he's a Kennedy?

Bootlegger's Boy!! member that? I have it on a shelf around here somewhere.:D

[StoopTroup]

"Every drop" is a stretch. But by the time Prohibition finally ended and liquor could again be legally imported, I've read the family had wrapped-up exclusive US distribution rights to products of several major British and Canadian distilleries.

Joe Sr also made a ton on real estate during the Depression. He had the tremendous wealth and the liquidity from his decades of rum-running to buy entire city blocks and by the time things started turning around in 1942, he was set to make a killing in real estate.

That's about what my Dad told me about them too.

Thanks for clarifying.

Dad's almost 82 and if I asked him now I might have to listen to the whole Kennedy Family History and then have a discussion about why everything is so screwed up.

It's why I like to visit the South Oval....no one here does that kind of stuff. :D

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Yer no longer Baind jaun :eek:

¿Como?