Sen Kay B Hutchinson TX to challenge Rick Perry for Governor

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I saw her announce on tv yesterday, that she will oppose Perry in the TX primary race for Governor. We will get an indication of the ACORN activity in that state, if she's able to "win" that race. Anyone know if independents and/or democrats can vote in the tx republican primary?

[SoonerStormchaser]

If I were Perry, I'd wait for her to resign the Senate, then appoint myself as her replacement. Just to stick it to her a little!

[Crucifax Autumn]

This should be funny...

[Scott D]

pretty sure this was called quite awhile back...worst kept secret in Texas other than Shipley and McCoy spooning 4 nights a week.

[TheUnnamedSooner]

pretty sure this was called quite awhile back...worst kept secret in Texas other than Shipley and McCoy spooning 4 nights a week.

Exactly. How many U.S. Senators have campaign rally's in Sherman, TX?

[King Crimson]

looks like someone doesn't remember the most important political happening of the 21st Century: Project Chaos.

[OklahomaTuba]

Wonder if Ron Paul will consider running for the Senate? That would be fun to watch.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Originally Posted by Scott D
"pretty sure this was called quite awhile back...worst kept secret in Texas."

Thank you for your valuable contribution.

[Lott's Bandana]

pretty sure this was called quite awhile back...worst kept secret in Texas other than Shipley and McCoy spooning 4 nights a week.


What are they doing the other 3 nights, forking?

[AggieTool]

Kinky!!

[soonerinabilene]

Perry is a walking bag of dooshjuice. I hope she cleans the floor with him.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Perry is a walking bag of dooshjuice. I hope she cleans the floor with him.He's far from perfect, but Hutchinson is just another RINO, who has no business in the Republican party.

[Veritas]

He's far from perfect, but Hutchinson is just another RINO, who has no business in the Republican party.
The current Republican party has no business in the Republican party.

[SoonerProphet]

I'd love for someone to explain to me what about her policy choices has made her this mythical beast "rino".

[Crucifax Autumn]

So she's a chinese wino???

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The current Republican party has no business in the Republican party.way too many RINOS. Time to get to work. Edited from another board:

FROM A FOOTBALL FAN MESSAGE BOARD I READ(Oklahoma Univ.)

Best way to get that message across guys is to send back to Steele and the RNC every solicitation with no money and the words "CLOSE THE PRIMARY - ALLOW REPUBLICANS ONLY" written across them. Do conservatives and America a favor.

RESPONSE: EXCELLENT IDEA! Encourage all your conservative friends to do so, as well. Repub primaries open to democrats and independents are invitations to nominate more RINOS like McCain.

[Chuck Bao]

I've heard that many of her own camp are not really in her camp. But, they are Longhorn fans and that does put a degree of skepticism in the whole judgment of what is right, proper and holy.

[GrapevineSooner]

I may vote for Kinky, again.

Even if he doesn't run.

[Scott D]

Originally Posted by Scott D
"pretty sure this was called quite awhile back...worst kept secret in Texas."

Thank you for your valuable contribution.

you're right, I should have included the link to the thread months ago where it was pretty obvious to many here that she'd run for Governor against Perry. My apologies oh great bastion of light through the fog of corrupt policies and mythical invisible party lines.

[LosAngelesSooner]

He's far from perfect, but Hutchinson is just another RINO, who has no business in the Republican party.
If ANYONE is a RINO, it's YOU.

[bluedogok]

Anyone know if independents and/or democrats can vote in the tx republican primary?
Texas is an open primary state.

I haven't voted for either one, don't think I will start now.

[Curly Bill]

Between Perry and Hutchison, she is by a significant margin the least offensive choice.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Between Perry and Hutchison, she is by a significant margin the least offensive choice.Again we are in agreement.

I would even go a step further and say that if the had been the Veep choice for McCain, he would have won back in November.

[Curly Bill]

Again we are in agreement.

I would even go a step further and say that if the had been the Veep choice for McCain, he would have won back in November.

I don't know, after Bushy the deck was just so stacked against the pubs.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Still...I maintain that Palin is what cost McCain the election since she drove all the moderates and undecideds over to Obama.

[Curly Bill]

Still...I maintain that Palin is what cost McCain the election since she drove all the moderates and undecideds over to Obama.

Maybe...

I still think it was largely Bush that drove them away.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Well, I hated Bush as much as anybody, but I hardly considered McCain to be another Bush.

Bush had NO influence on my voting for McCain. And I know quite a few people who feel similarly.

[SicEmBaylor]

This is actually something I know a great deal about. I have way the hell too many friends working on his re-election campaign, and even a couple working for KBH so I get all of the daily updates.

I'll say this. Rick Perry is absolutely positively no conservative. I've worked with him on numerous occasions and Rick Perry does whatever Rick Perry needs to do in order to get elected. He's a snake oil salesman who will promise you one thing one minute and turn right around and do the opposite because of political expediency. He also plays VERY dirty.

Having said all that, KBH is nothing more than a liberal. She isn't a RINO because, frankly, the GOP itself has become rather liberal so she's just par for the course.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Oh, holy crap...I love it when people declare that the Republican Party isn't "Republican enough."

[SicEmBaylor]

Oh, holy crap...I love it when people declare that the Republican Party isn't "Republican enough."

It isn't small (r) republican enough. I don't give a **** about it being big (R) Republican enough. I don't give much of a **** about it at all to be honest.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I'll say this. Rick Perry is absolutely positively no conservative. I've worked with him on numerous occasions and Rick Perry does whatever Rick Perry needs to do in order to get elected. He's a snake oil salesman who will promise you one thing one minute and turn right around and do the opposite because of political expediency. He also plays VERY dirty.

Having said all that, KBH is nothing more than a liberal. She isn't a RINO because, frankly, the GOP itself has become rather liberal so she's just par for the course.I am not very knowlegeable about what Perry's record is, but I wouldn't vote for Hutchinson for anything. She is, at least lately, on the wrong side of everthing...But, with open primaries in TX, I would expect her to beat him next yr.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I still think it was largely Bush that drove them away.The October Surprise announcement that the banks were failing and the economy needed an IMMEDIATE BAILOUT is what turned the tide in favor of the American Socialists.

[SicEmBaylor]

Still...I maintain that Palin is what cost McCain the election since she drove all the moderates and undecideds over to Obama.

Moderates weren't going to vote for McCain in sufficient numbers to matter. The problem with McCain is that he never had the base, and the GOP base has to turn out in huge numbers for them to win a national election. Any moderate pickups he may have had by picking a more moderate running mate would have been offset by losses from the base. The inverse, however, is also true with a Palin pick. He did not lose that election because of his VEEP pick. He lost the election because he was a ****ty campaigner, had a horrible strategy, lacked a strong message, was hindered by an extremely unpopular President, was running against a very charismatic candidate, and he was generally unlikable.

McCain was never ever going to win that race -- ever. No chance, nadda, zippo.

Blaming his loss on Palin is absurd.

[SicEmBaylor]

I am not very knowlegeable about what Perry's record is, but I wouldn't vote for Hutchinson for anything. She is, at least lately, on the wrong side of everthing...But, with open primaries in TX, I would expect her to beat him next yr.

lol, you don't know much about Texas politics then.

[SicEmBaylor]

At any rate, this isn't a two-way race. Debra Medina is also running, and she has my support. Neither Perry nor KBH are acceptable choices, but Medina is a fine choice.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

lol, you don't know much about Texas politics then.lol, I said I didn't, but I know about Hutchinson, and she has all the appeal of Susan Collins.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

At any rate, this isn't a two-way race. Debra Medina is also running, and she has my support. Neither Perry nor KBH are acceptable choices, but Medina is a fine choice.Why didn't you say so in the first place, and does she have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary? With open primaries for the republicans, I bet Hutchinson wins in a landslide.

[SicEmBaylor]

Why didn't you say so in the first place, and does she have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary? With open primaries for the republicans, I bet Hutchinson wins in a landslide.

Because Texas has always had open primaries, and the suggestion that tens of thousands of liberal crossovers are going to push the GOP primary one way or another is an absolute myth. It has never ever happened. The Democrats have their own primary to be concerned with, and I don't think many of them are going to sacrifice their primary vote when they have an important primary of their own.

Second, I don't give a **** about who has the best chance of winning the primary. I care about who I think will best represent Texas. WTF do you do? Read a poll and jump on the bandwagon of whoever is ahead?

Lastly, Perry is very popular with the conservative base of the GOP that actually shows up to vote on Primary day. I know the demographics of the state, because I've worked on Texas campaigns since 2001. Texas GOP primary voters are not going to vote for KBH.

I really hope that everyone who votes for Perry has their land seized and their property bulldozed as part of the TTC project.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Don't you guys need him to lead the secession? ;)

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Because Texas has always had open primaries, and the suggestion that tens of thousands of liberal crossovers are going to push the GOP primary one way or another is an absolute myth. It has never ever happened. The Democrats have their own primary to be concerned with, and I don't think many of them are going to sacrifice their primary vote when they have an important primary of their own.

Second, I don't give a **** about who has the best chance of winning the primary. I care about who I think will best represent Texas. WTF do you do? Read a poll and jump on the bandwagon of whoever is ahead?

Lastly, Perry is very popular with the conservative base of the GOP that actually shows up to vote on Primary day. I know the demographics of the state, because I've worked on Texas campaigns since 2001. Texas GOP primary voters are not going to vote for KBH.

I really hope that everyone who votes for Perry has their land seized and their property bulldozed as part of the TTC project.DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! In greater numbers than I think you imagine, more and more libs are registering as Independents or even republicans, if necessary, to be able to influence the republican nominee. Many of them don't care so much who the dem nominee is, since they know he or she will be for big govt./nannystatism, and that good old govt. largess. They realize, and rightly so, that their best chance is to eff up the republicans' selection.

[SicEmBaylor]

Don't you guys need him to lead the secession? ;)

That bull**** was another fine example of how he panders to the base when it benefits him politically. Before the '06 election he'd have never said that. Since he didn't win a plurality of the votes the last time around he's been tripping over himself to appeal to the GOP base. You'll NEVER hear him talk about the TTC, teacher pay, property taxes, or that dumb-*** stealth income tax plan he and Speaker Craddick came up with back in '04 or so anymore.

For what it's worth, I agree with the statement just not his sincerity. I do happen to believe in the sovereignty of the individual states.

[SicEmBaylor]

DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! In greater numbers than I think you imagine, more and more libs are registering as Independents or even republicans, if necessary, to be able to influence the republican nominee. Many of them don't care so much who the dem nominee is, since they know he or she will be for big govt./nannystatism, and that good old govt. largess. They realize, and rightly so, that their best chance is to eff up the republicans' selection.

Eh, I'm going to have to go with my own experience with the Texas GOP electorate on this one. I'm not wrong.

Also, you don't have to register for any party in an open-primary. It's the essence of an open primary. You just pick which primary you want to vote in and after that you're counted as a member of that party. You essentially "register" by voting in the Texas primary of your choosing.

[LosAngelesSooner]

DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! In greater numbers than I think you imagine, more and more libs are registering as Independents or even republicans, if necessary, to be able to influence the republican nominee. Many of them don't care so much who the dem nominee is, since they know he or she will be for big govt./nannystatism, and that good old govt. largess. They realize, and rightly so, that their best chance is to eff up the republicans' selection.
Yeah.

'Cause the Democrats are organized enough to pull off that type of conspiracy. :rolleyes:

(can you hear the sarcasm dripping off this post?)

[SicEmBaylor]

Yeah.

'Cause the Democrats are organized enough to pull off that type of conspiracy. :rolleyes:

(can you hear the sarcasm dripping off this post?)

This is especially true of Texas Democrats. They couldn't even come together last time and support their own gubernatorial candidate -- half of them split to vote for Kinky. If the Democrats had managed to unite behind their own candidate last time then Perry would have lost.

[King Crimson]

DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! In greater numbers than I think you imagine, more and more libs are registering as Independents or even republicans, if necessary, to be able to influence the republican nominee.

those sinister libs, but it was uber-cool when Rush advocated it: Project Chaos.

do you even pay attention to how much you contradict yourself?

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I like how one minute, the parties are all seeing Illuminati who can sway the populace with subliminal messages and very elaborate plans. The next minute, they are just silly buffoons. It's like the the 9/11 conspiracies...The government has been trying to fix I-35 since the 70's probably but somehow they are going to pull off the most sophisticated cover up the world has ever seen?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

those sinister libs, but it was uber-cool when Rush advocated it: Project Chaos.

do you even pay attention to how much you contradict yourself?It's war, you know. The agressor sets the rules. Do you think you're as smart as it appears you think you are?

[King Crimson]

It's war, you know. The agressor sets the rules. Do you think you're as smart as it appears you think you are?

i think politics through a larger lens than the masters who yank the chain and make you bark like a dog.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i think politics through a larger lens than the masters who yank the chain and make you bark like a dog.Haha. You don't understand why Limbaugh is popular, do you?(or do you just deny it?)

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Well Charles Manson wanted to start a race war. It would probably be best to be proactive and start it before he can

[King Crimson]

Haha. You don't understand why Limbaugh is popular, do you?(or do you just deny it?)

Haha. El Rushbo is popular because it's always easier to call yourself in favor of "accountability" and blame the liberals for ruining some mythological vision of "America".

El Rushbo is popular because he makes complex social issues easy for the LCD (fixing blame for their situation anywhere but where it really is)...and falsifying history to make it heroic for people too lazy to actually read real books.

[A Sooner in Texas]

This is especially true of Texas Democrats. They couldn't even come together last time and support their own gubernatorial candidate -- half of them split to vote for Kinky. If the Democrats had managed to unite behind their own candidate last time then Perry would have lost.

It's not like the Dems had a truly viable candidate anyway, but yeah, a whole lot of them were enamored of Stinky Kinky - who is throwing out cigar smoke signals that he may run again.
Unless the Dems have a really good candidate they can unite for, I do see a fair amount of them going over to KBH to get rid of Perry. Hell, I'm a Dem, and that's a possibility for me.

[royalfan5]

Rick Perry has a fantastic head of hair.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

It's not like the Dems had a truly viable candidate anyway, but yeah, a whole lot of them were enamored of Stinky Kinky - who is throwing out cigar smoke signals that he may run again.
Unless the Dems have a really good candidate they can unite for, I do see a fair amount of them going over to KBH to get rid of Perry. Hell, I'm a Dem, and that's a possibility for me.Don't let SicEm hear that. Well, you are alone in your thoughts among democrats, anyway.(heh)

[mdklatt]

It's like the the 9/11 conspiracies...The government has been trying to fix I-35 since the 70's probably but somehow they are going to pull off the most sophisticated cover up the world has ever seen?

You'd better mean the fake moon landings. :mad:

[bluedogok]

I'll say this. Rick Perry is absolutely positively no conservative. I've worked with him on numerous occasions and Rick Perry does whatever Rick Perry needs to do in order to get elected. He's a snake oil salesman who will promise you one thing one minute and turn right around and do the opposite because of political expediency. He also plays VERY dirty.
So in other words...he's a politician :D

I voted for Kinky last time, why the hell not. None of the other choices (Gov. Goodhair, Grandma, the sacrificial Dem) were appealing and I knew he and everyone other than Perry had no shot as well. I didn't vote in the primary, none of them interested me and it allowed me to could sign the petition to get Kinky on the ballot.

Lt. Governor is where the real power in the state resides anyway.

[mdklatt]

Rick Perry has a fantastic head of hair.

That's a fact. He's the anti-Blagojovich--except for also being a tool.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Haha. El Rushbo is popular because it's always easier to call yourself in favor of "accountability" and BLAME THE LIBERALS FOR RUINING SOME MYTHOLOGICAL VISION OF "AMERICA".

El Rushbo is popular because he makes complex social issues easy for the LCD (fixing blame for their situation anywhere but where it really is)...and FALSIFYING HISTORY to make it heroic for people too lazy to actually read real books.Little doubt this, or something like it, is what you want to believe, and I supose most leftists do look at our country that way. BTW, the (LCD)Limbaugh audience has been rated among the most and best educated in the country.

[Crucifax Autumn]

OK Rush, You know I've had a long history of fence-sitting here and I think all you guys that take the extremes are kinda nuts (no offense, really), but I would like to see some evidence of that most educated statement. Where did that come from? It sounds suspisciously like the same BS Bill Maher says about his audience...As in "He made it up" because if they watch him/listen to him they MUST be smart. They may both be right since I listen/watch both since I am a political junkie stuck in the middle and see the good and bad of both extremes and I am a fuggin genius! lol

But seriously...can you give me some reference or proof of this?

For the record, I lived in Texas for years before moving to Vegas and I can't remember the last time I saw a Texas politician in either party that's not either a moron, a sell-out, or too bat**** to win anything other than a congressional seat.

[King Crimson]

what does "rated" mean? by whom? better still, "most and best"? most AND best.

let's see the data. i know you think the advanced institute for conservative studies is prestigious but it's pretty much hating on higher education when i listen to El Rushbo and the Advanced Institute. those evil liberal elite types.

i know those funny voices that Rush likes to do and the mock-up songs with "funny" lyrics are way over my head.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

PEW Research: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/estack_12_13_06/Rush_Limbaugh_Audience_Among_Most_Knowledgeable_an d_Educated_in_All_of_American_Media.guest.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061223135550AAhzf7C

[King Crimson]

i count a lot of American college grads over Rush at that link.

including 4/5 that aren't O'Reilly and 4/6 that aren't Rush or O'Reilly.

strike out for you.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

i count a lot of American college grads over Rush at that link.

including 4/5 that aren't O'Reilly and 4/6 that aren't Rush or O'Reilly.

strike out for you.haha, something like that was expected from you. If you think conservatives are stupid, then they must be.

[soonerscuba]

Hero worship for adult males is sad. Double so if your hero is a thrice married, drug addicted, college dropout.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Hero worship for adult males is sad. Double so if your hero is a thrice married, drug addicted, college dropout.'D'Oh!

[King Crimson]

haha, something like that was expected from you. If you think conservatives are stupid, then they must be.

the burden of proof is on you. you are the one who brought "most and best" education into this here mix.

i think Edmond Burke and Thom Jefferson are pretty smart guys but they'd be "RINO's" in your plex.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

the burden of proof is on you. you are the one who brought "most and best" education into this here mix.

i think Edmond Burke and Thom Jefferson are pretty smart guys but they'd be "RINO's" in your plex.I said among the best. Hence, certainly not the LCD's you called them(us). I would say the LCD's are the saps who voted for Obama because he's black, or because he's C, B and A, like Biden called him.

[SicEmBaylor]

The best thing that ever happened to me was when I realized I didn't need Rush Limbaugh or some other pea brain radio host to analyze and explain the news for me. I was about 17 at the time.

[SicEmBaylor]

So in other words...he's a politician :D

I voted for Kinky last time, why the hell not. None of the other choices (Gov. Goodhair, Grandma, the sacrificial Dem) were appealing and I knew he and everyone other than Perry had no shot as well. I didn't vote in the primary, none of them interested me and it allowed me to could sign the petition to get Kinky on the ballot.

Lt. Governor is where the real power in the state resides anyway.

Yep.

I almost supported Larry Kilgore, but he's too big a crackpot even for me.

[SicEmBaylor]

the burden of proof is on you. you are the one who brought "most and best" education into this here mix.

i think Edmond Burke and Thom Jefferson are pretty smart guys but they'd be "RINO's" in your plex.

I'm not sure there could possibly be two individuals whose politics and temperament are more diametrically opposed.

Conservatives, especially the college activist sort, throw out names like Burke way way the hell too loosely. Burke's conservatism was distinctly non-ideological and more an innate conservatism. I consider American style conservatism to be distinctly ideological and therefore any relationship to Burkean (is that a word?) conservatism is superficial at best.

That's just my opinion, but I hear the names of conservative thinkers thrown about by some without any real thought to their relationship to one another.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The best thing that ever happened to me was when I realized I didn't need Rush Limbaugh or some other pea brain radio host to analyze and explain the news for me. I was about 17 at the time.As you should have figured out by now, Limbaugh's appeal is he reflects the ideas and opinions most conservatives in America believe, and isn't just another leftist mailcarrier. He reports things the MSM refuses to report, since those things reflect poorly on the libs. But, you know that.

[SicEmBaylor]

As you should have figured out by now, Limbaugh's appeal is he reflects the ideas and opinions most conservatives in America believe, and isn't just another leftist mailcarrier. He reports things the MSM refuses to report, since those things reflect poorly on the libs. But, you know that.

Where do you think Rush gets his material? He's not an investigative reporter. Everything he "reports" has already been printed or posted somewhere else. 90% of what he "reports" can be found on Drudge. The "inside the beltway" type material can be read by anyone who has a subscription to "The Hill" and the rest of it is just a Lexis-Nexis search away.

There's nothing at all original or entertaining about Rush Limbaugh.

[John Kochtoston]

It's a pretty sad day when I wish this thread had discussed Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley having gay sex, instead of the subject matter at hand.

[Scott D]

technically John it's probably not too late.

[John Kochtoston]

technically John it's probably not too late.

Fair point. So Shipley and McCoy are down to spooning 4 times a week now, huh?

[Scott D]

Part of Mack's pre-season conditioning.

[John Kochtoston]

Part of Mack's pre-season conditioning.

Trying to taper, I guess. Must be the 21st Century equivalent to "no sex before the big game." NTTAWWT.

[John Kochtoston]

I can't believe I wasted my 1,000th post on that.

[SicEmBaylor]

I can't believe I wasted my 1,000th post on that.

Why not? You wasted the other 999.

;)