Gun protesters puffing their chests out

[Collier11]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns


I am glad that they are defending their rights on this topic but I can only imagine that this will end badly

Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest
PHOENIX – About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.

"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."

Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg.

"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."

Police asked the man to move away from school property, but he was not arrested.

Fred Solop, a Northern Arizona University political scientist, said the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona could signal the beginning of a disturbing trend.

"When you start to bring guns to political rallies, it does layer on another level of concern and significance," Solop said. "It actually becomes quite scary for many people. It creates a chilling effect in the ability of our society to carry on honest communication."

He said he's never heard of someone bringing an assault weapon near a presidential event. "The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation," he said.

Phoenix was Obama's last stop on a four-day tour of western states, including Montana and Colorado.

Authorities in Montana said they received no reports of anyone carrying firearms during Obama's health care town hall near Bozeman on Friday. About 1,000 people both for and against Obama converged at a protest area near the Gallatin Field Airport hangar where the event took place. One person accused of disorderly conduct was detained and released, according to the Gallatin Airport Authority.

Heather Benjamin of Denver's Mesa County sheriff's department, the lead agency during Obama's visit there, said no one was arrested.

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Paul Helmke, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said people should not be allowed to bring guns to events where Obama is.

"To me, this is craziness," he said. "When you bring a loaded gun, particularly a loaded assault rifle, to any political event, but particularly to one where the president is appearing, you're just making the situation dangerous for everyone."

He said people who bring guns to presidential events are distracting the Secret Service and law enforcement from protecting the president. "The more guns we see at more events like this, there's more potential for something tragic happening," he said.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

[Curly Bill]

End badly how?

[Collier11]

Someone will start taking shots if they were to get a chance, although I dont know that they would ever get close enough

[KABOOKIE]

Please oh please no one shoot Obama. We'll have to hear forever how he was the bestas President EVAR!

[Curly Bill]

If you're talking about shooting at the POTUS, I think that would be much more likely to happen from someone not openly carrying a weapon. Someone really intent on shooting the POTUS is not likely to announce their plans by having their gun where everyone can see it.

[GrapevineSooner]

Wow.

All those gun toters and NOTHING happened!!!

It's as if responsible gun owners are...well...responsible.

[Curly Bill]

Please oh please no one shoot Obama. We'll have to hear forever how he was the bestas President EVAR!

Yup, shades of JFK.

[Collier11]

Most likely you are correct, im sure SS had a bullseye on all of those guys from some roof top

[Collier11]

Wow.

All those gun toters and NOTHING happened!!!

It's as if responsible gun owners are...well...responsible.

Alot of Libs dont seem to think so

[Curly Bill]

Alot of Libs dont seem to think so

Libs think guns are icky...

You should have seen Richard Madow's face tonight when she mentioned the gun wearers on her show. You'd think she'd just seen a penus. ;)

[delhalew]

The only effect I see this having is keeping SEIU out of said armed citizens face.

Though on a serious note this sort of thing makes folks who are middle of the road on the 2nd freaked out. Anti-gunners spend their lives being pissed you have any rights at all. There is little help for them.

[Turd_Ferguson]

gun's don't kill people, bullet's kill people. :D

[Collier11]

"guns dont kill people, minorities do"

[Collier11]

Im sorry, its an extremely bad taste joke but it is funny, I think it is from Family Guy, someone help me out here :D

[GrapevineSooner]

Funny enough, I actually know some liberal gun owners.

[delhalew]

Most likely you are correct, im sure SS had a bullseye on all of those guys from some roof top

Don't forget about this quote.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

[delhalew]

Funny enough, I actually know some liberal gun owners.

Whats not funy is anti-gun activists who either have been caught concealing without permit or the larger percentage who go nowhere without arned security.
Hypocrisy is swell.

I am aware that liberal on rare occasions does not mean anti-gun...just saying, most are because that's what they were told to think.

[JLEW1818]

libs also elected the highest spending president ever

[Turd_Ferguson]

libs also elected the highest spending president everyour drunk....again....aren't you.

[Curly Bill]

your drunk....again....aren't you.

What a dumas question. :rolleyes:







:D

[Turd_Ferguson]

What a dumas question. :rolleyes:







:Dhahaha...you posted this under you CB account instead of your LAS account....hahahahahaha:D

[Curly Bill]

hahaha...you posted this under you CB account instead of your LAS account....hahahahahaha:D

Oh, just because I get along with LAS these days (though he's always wrong) and you don't. :P

[Turd_Ferguson]

Oh, just because I get along with LAS these days (though he's always wrong) and you don't. :PWhaaa? Lassy(only close friends call him that)and I go way back. Don't kid yourself big fella. We's tight.:D

[Curly Bill]

Whaaa? Lassy(only close friends call him that)and I go way back. Don't kid yourself big fella. We's tight.:D


:hot:

[Turd_Ferguson]

:hot::pop::D

[Curly Bill]

:P :texan:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Awww...you guys are fightin' over little ol' me?! :D

[Jerk]

I heard this guy was a real racist/ anti-obama person (same thing, right?).

http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6899/bj2q.jpg

[Harry Beanbag]

I heard this guy was a real racist/ anti-obama person (same thing, right?).

http://img194.yfrog.com/img194/6899/bj2q.jpg


That's awesome, he has an extra mag in the back pocket of his dress slacks. :D

[49r]

gun's don't kill people, bullet's kill people. :D


"guns dont kill people, minorities do"


One of these things is not like the other...

[My Opinion Matters]

gun's don't kill people, bullet's kill people. :D

NSFW (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFcVwDw4YLE)

[85Sooner]

He must be a republican member of the Senate. At least that is what howard dean says, but he is not being inflamatory in the least..................... Hm

[LosAngelesSooner]

Anyone who uses the Joker whiteface Obama socialism poster is racist and of questionable patriotism and loyalty to the United States.

The second part holds true to anyone who equates any of our Presidents (Bush, Obama, Clinton, etc) to Hitler.

Period.

[Collier11]

Anyone who uses the Joker whiteface Obama socialism poster is racist and of questionable patriotism and loyalty to the United States.



This is absolutely rediculous in so many ways

[Harry Beanbag]

This is absolutely rediculous in so many ways

It's an LAS post, why wouldn't it be?

[LosAngelesSooner]

Yeah, putting a black man in white face isn't racism.

Equating our President to a sociopathic homicidal killer isn't unpatriotic.

Equating our President to one of the most evil mass murderers in history isn't unpatriotic.

You go, girls.

[Harry Beanbag]

Does that mean you really are the world's top male model?

[JLEW1818]

he is just a SF fav, I'm telling ya!

[LosAngelesSooner]

Does that mean you really are the world's top male model?5 years runnin'. ;)

[CK Sooner]

I think the whole "lets bring assault rifles to political ****" stupid as ****! People are idiots for doing it. If Obama happened to be walking past one of them and the guy makes a wrong move then boom, he takes one right in the face. I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry for the guy either, how ****ing dumb.

[LosAngelesSooner]

^^^ This.

[KABOOKIE]

Yeah, putting a black man in white face isn't racism.

Well, how the **** else are you going to portray him as The Joker? :rolleyes:

Some people are beyond stupid.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Well, how the **** else are you going to portray him as The Joker? :rolleyes:

Some people are beyond stupid.Refer back to my post about equating our commander in chief to a homicidal maniac.

And thanks. Your last 3 posts reminded me why I had you on ignore in the first place. I'll fix that situation ASAP.

[KC//CRIMSON]

I think the whole "lets bring assault rifles to political ****" stupid as ****! People are idiots for doing it. If Obama happened to be walking past one of them and the guy makes a wrong move then boom, he takes one right in the face. I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry for the guy either, how ****ing dumb.


+1

Congrats on having the smartest post in this thread.

[JLEW1818]

i agree with that too.

[Collier11]

Yeah, putting a black man in white face isn't racism.

Equating our President to a sociopathic homicidal killer isn't unpatriotic.

Equating our President to one of the most evil mass murderers in history isn't unpatriotic.

You go, girls.

Sounds exactly like what the libs did to GW for years and im pretty sure the white face is more related to the joker than him being white, give me a break

[Collier11]

+1

Congrats on having the smartest post in this thread.

So now you libs are in favor of getting rid of a mans right to protest while bearing arms? They did nothing wrong and they sure as hell havent been lying to the country, in fact they are making their beliefs well known. Just sayin :D

[KC//CRIMSON]

So now you libs are in favor of getting rid of a mans right to protest while bearing arms? They did nothing wrong and they sure as hell havent been lying to the country, in fact they are making their beliefs well known. Just sayin :D


Yeah, because protesting with firearms is always a great idea. I guess idiots have to do what idiots have to do.

[Collier11]

Well are you in defense of the constitution or not?

[delhalew]

You guys are so offended that we have rights in this country and don't just mill about like cattle. If gets too hard for ya' relocate.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Well are you in defense of the constitution or not?

Yes, but there is a time and a place for firearms. And political protests are not one of them, IMO.

[CK Sooner]

It is a right that we have, but what is the points of bringing an assault rifle to something like that? It is really unnecessary.

[Collier11]

Yes, but there is a time and a place for firearms. And political protests are not one of them, IMO.

In some peoples opinion women should not have the right to vote, doesnt make it correct. They have a constitutional right to bear arms in a public and peaceful protest which they did.

I would assume the point they were trying to prove is that they will not be ok with any attack on their rights to have firearms

[LosAngelesSooner]

Sounds exactly like what the libs did to GW for years and im pretty sure the white face is more related to the joker than him being white, give me a breakBush. Obama. Lib. Pub.

Wrong is wrong.

[Collier11]

I dont think there is anything wrong with putting the joker face on Obama until you know his intentions, when someone states something clearly like comparing Bush to Hitler, it is wrong in my eyes. When you have no idea what he is exactly protesting because he hasnt told you, you cant accuse him of racism, accusing someone of racism is equally wrong on your part

[delhalew]

It is a right that we have, but what is the points of bringing an assault rifle to something like that? It is really unnecessary.

It damn sure ain't on my to do list. I just like to see people exercising rights that were important to the brilliant men who founded this union.

[KC//CRIMSON]

In some peoples opinion women should not have the right to vote, doesnt make it correct. They have a constitutional right to bear arms in a public and peaceful protest which they did.

I would assume the point they were trying to prove is that they will not be ok with any attack on their rights to have firearms

And how often do peaceful protests turn violent? A lot. I think it's a bad idea, but whatever.

[Collier11]

Thats fine, you can think that and as I said initially, there is probably a decent change of that going wrong at some point. Like it or not though, it is their right and I have no issue with them displaying it peacefully

[LosAngelesSooner]

You guys are so offended that we have rights in this country and don't just mill about like cattle. If gets to hard for ya' relocate.:rolleyes:
You first. After all...YOU lost.


Yes, but there is a time and a place for firearms. And political protests are not one of them, IMO.^^^ This.


It is a right that we have, but what is the points of bringing an assault rifle to something like that? It is really unnecessary.What happens when there's 15 or 20 of these "protesters" all juiced up and angry and then a shot rings out. Maybe a car backfire...maybe some crazy extremist Lib, maybe some crazy extremist Pub, maybe someone who's simply crazy...and someone goes down?

Yeah...protesters with guns at a heated political rally with the President, Secret Service, and police is a GREAT idea. It could NEVER go horribly horribly wrong. :rolleyes:

Don't you guys get it? There are things you CAN do...and things you SHOULDN'T do even though you can...because it's STUPID to do them. Carry your gun to a Luby's cafeteria and enjoy your dessert...sure. Fine. Whatever floats your boat. Carry your gun to the Red River Rivalry game...ASKIN' FOR TROUBLE.

[GrapevineSooner]

I think the whole "lets bring assault rifles to political ****" stupid as ****! People are idiots for doing it. If Obama happened to be walking past one of them and the guy makes a wrong move then boom, he takes one right in the face. I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry for the guy either, how ****ing dumb.

Had Obama been walking by, the Secret Service would have had jurisdiction over the area, and would ordered the gun toters to clear the area, surrender their weapons, or risk arrest.

Anytime the Secret Service takes jurisdiction over an area for a Presidential visit, it automatically becomes illegal for any citizen to carry a firearm in that area.

Now that having been said, I'd like to throw a red flag on myself for what I posted earlier.

I can somewhat agree with the first part because the guy with the assault rifle didn't bring a clip with him to load the gun with. Which, unless he was planning on rifle whipping somebody, his gun was effectively rendered useless and was meant merely as a prop. Which doesn't make sense since cops were already on the scene anyway.

If you're going to assert your 2nd amendment rights, there's probably a better way to assert them.

Like using it to defend life and property.

[Collier11]

you talking about the wrong thing at a bar could go wrong, now you are just fear mongering

[Collier11]

Like using it to defend life and property.

Thats the right that they are worried about losing isnt it

[LosAngelesSooner]

I dont think there is anything wrong with putting the joker face on Obama until you know his intentions, when someone states something clearly like comparing Bush to Hitler, it is wrong in my eyes. When you have no idea what he is exactly protesting because he hasnt told you, you cant accuse him of racism, accusing someone of racism is equally wrong on your partAh...so he's "equating" Obama to The Joker. SO he either feels that The Joker is a Socialist and is in favor of a Socialist "Nanny State"...or he feels that Obama is for total anarchy with mass murder and no order or government whatsoever.

Either assertion is complete and utter baseless bull**** and we all know it.

So it HAS to be that Obama in white face is a shocking image and he thinks that Obama is, like The Joker, a horrible, evil person who wants us all dead...in which case it is racist and disloyal to our democratically elected Commander in Chief.

Which is what I asserted.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Had Obama been walking by, the Secret Service would have had jurisdiction over the area, and would ordered the gun toters to clear the area, surrender their weapons, or risk arrest.

Anytime the Secret Service takes jurisdiction over an area for a Presidential visit, it automatically becomes illegal for any citizen to carry a firearm in that area.

Now that having been said, I'd like to throw a red flag on myself for what I posted earlier.

I can somewhat agree with the first part because the guy with the assault rifle didn't bring a clip with him to load the gun with. Which, unless he was planning on rifle whipping somebody, his gun was effectively rendered useless and was meant merely as a prop. Which doesn't make sense since cops were already on the scene anyway.

If you're going to assert your 2nd amendment rights, there's probably a better way to assert them.

Like using it to defend life and property.Maybe I'm missing your point, but I thought the guy stated that it was loaded and then had a LOADED BACKUP CLIP in his back pocket? Why do you need extra rounds UNLESS you're EXPECTING a shootout?

[LosAngelesSooner]

you talking about the wrong thing at a bar could go wrong, now you are just fear mongering
It is ILLEGAL to carry a firearm in almost every state in a place that sells liquor.

So, no...it's NOT "fear mongering," it's COMMON SENSE.

[Harry Beanbag]

Maybe I'm missing your point, but I thought the guy stated that it was loaded and then had a LOADED BACKUP CLIP in his back pocket? Why do you need extra rounds UNLESS you're EXPECTING a shootout?

Maybe he was a boy scout. :)

[CK Sooner]

Maybe he was a boy scout. :)

More like a girl scout...

[Turd_Ferguson]

Had Obama been walking by, the Secret Service would have had jurisdiction over the area, and would ordered the gun toters to clear the area, surrender their weapons, or risk arrest.

Anytime the Secret Service takes jurisdiction over an area for a Presidential visit, it automatically becomes illegal for any citizen to carry a firearm in that area.

Now that having been said, I'd like to throw a red flag on myself for what I posted earlier.

I can somewhat agree with the first part because the guy with the assault rifle didn't bring a clip with him to load the gun with. Which, unless he was planning on rifle whipping somebody, his gun was effectively rendered useless and was meant merely as a prop. Which doesn't make sense since cops were already on the scene anyway.

If you're going to assert your 2nd amendment rights, there's probably a better way to assert them.

Like using it to defend life and property.I see a clip in the gun as well as a loaded one in his hip pocket.

[49r]

Maybe it should be mandatory to carry loaded assault weapons to crowded political rallies. It's like darwinism on steroids!

[KABOOKIE]

I dont think there is anything wrong with putting the joker face on Obama until you know his intentions, when someone states something clearly like comparing Bush to Hitler, it is wrong in my eyes. When you have no idea what he is exactly protesting because he hasnt told you, you cant accuse him of racism, accusing someone of racism is equally wrong on your part

Exactly. But, to some people anything done to a person of color is racism. Whatever. Like I said before. Some people are beyond stupid.

[JLEW1818]

I'm a cracker...:cry:

[Turd_Ferguson]

I'm a wino..http://www.olevetpossehideout.com/forums/images/smilies/Vet.pngfixed

[Turd_Ferguson]

Maybe it should be mandatory to carry loaded assault weapons to crowded political rallies. It's like darwinism on steroids!yeah, and the unarmed ones are like cow's following the feed truck.:rolleyes:

[Veritas]

I think a few semi-automatic weapons could do great good at rallies. Preferably with dudes that have qualified Expert manning them and overlapping fields of fire.

Oh, and who gives a **** if some kid made Obama look like the Joker. Nobody gave a **** when Vanity Fair did it to Bush.

[49r]

yeah, and the unarmed ones are like cow's following the feed truck.:rolleyes:

I said MANDATORY. There wouldn't be any unarmed ones.

Everyone has an equal shot. Last one standing wins the protest.

[delhalew]

The signs of Obama/Joker say socialism at the bottom. While socialism has nothing to do with the Joker, I'm just glad to see more people paying attention and expressing they're discontent.

People are to quick to make everything about race. Deal with your white guilt on your own, I have none.

[Turd_Ferguson]

The signs of Obama/Joker say socialism at the bottom. While socialism has nothing to do with the Joker, I'm just glad to see more people paying attention and expressing they're discontent.

People are to quick to make everything about race. Deal with your white guilt on your own, I have none.post of the day.!

[Crucifax Autumn]

I have a white quilt.

[Sooner24]

Chris Matthews just said carrying a gun to a rally is a symbol just like burning a cross. What a moron.

[Collier11]

LAS, you are dead wrong on both accounts my friend, dead wrong

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'm just dead.

[delhalew]

Chris Matthews just said carrying a gun to a rally is a symbol just like burning a cross. What a moron.

Liberal moderate conservative-eberybody needs to look at whats going on here. These people want to tear us apart.

Seriously, don't buy in to this crap. If you have anything to say against his Barrackness you are a Nazi, hatefilled, ******. This is all predicated on the idea that we are just to stupid to understand that the kindhearted gov'ment only wants to take care of us because are incapable.

Anyone who knows a thing about world history(or even our own) should know this all sounds really familiar.

Orwellian is not an overstatement.

[tommieharris91]

Chris Matthews just said carrying a gun to a rally is a symbol just like burning a cross. What a moron.

Watching MSNBC kills brain cells.

[Crucifax Autumn]

[left-wing extremist]so does a bullet in the skull![/left-wing extremist]

[tommieharris91]

LAS, you are dead wrong on both accounts my friend, dead wrong

Last I checked it wasn't very smart to point a loaded firearm at someone/something who isn't directly threatening to you or someone else, but it's been awhile since I've been to a firearm safety course.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Well, the way I heard it is if yer gonna point it you better shoot it!

[MR2-Sooner86]

Lets not forget, did he break the law? No.
Was it legal for him to do what he did and where he did it? Yes.
Was he exercising a Constitutional Amendment? Yes.

Also, what's the difference between exercising your first amendment right by holding Obama Socialist posters and exercising your second amendment rights by holding a firearm?

Anyway, do I think this was stupid? Yes. I think he could have done better by carrying a pistol or if he wanted a rifle a .22.

[CK Sooner]

Lets not forget, did he break the law? No.
Was it legal for him to do what he did and where he did it? Yes.
Was he exercising a Constitutional Amendment? Yes.

Also, what's the difference between exercising your first amendment right by holding Obama Socialist posters and exercising your second amendment rights by holding a firearm?

Anyway, do I think this was stupid? Yes. I think he could have done better by carrying a pistol or if he wanted a rifle a .22.

So what was his point to bring a gun to that?

[CK Sooner]

Well, the way I heard it is if yer gonna point it you better shoot it!

I think if you bring an assault rifle then you better use it applies here also. That guy is an idiot, end of story.

:pop:

[Crucifax Autumn]

2 words:

Grenade launcher!

[MR2-Sooner86]

So what was his point to bring a gun to that?

Why not? He could legally do it. If you want to make it political, Obama has a past of not being friendly to guns.

[Harry Beanbag]

2 words:

Grenade launcher!

He wasn't at a gun show in Riverside. :D

[KC//CRIMSON]

Also, what's the difference between exercising your first amendment right by holding Obama Socialist posters and exercising your second amendment rights by holding a firearm?


Ever hear of a protest turning violent and people getting killed with posters?

[Crucifax Autumn]

Those papercuts can be a real bitch!

[MR2-Sooner86]

Ever hear of a protest turning violent and people getting killed with posters?

Ever hear of a protest turning violent and people getting shot? What? No? Oh yeah, it didn't happen.

Oh yeah, speaking of paper cuts I heard you can theoritically cut somebody's head off if you get a piece of paper going fast enough. Just a little FYI for everybody.

[2Dogs]

So what was his point to bring a gun to that?

Why does a dog lick his balls ?





because he can

[Crucifax Autumn]

A better question is why dogs smell mine

[Curly Bill]

This thread is the final confirmation that CK and KC are in fact one and the same. :O

[MR2-Sooner86]

A better question is why dogs smell mine

They're craving some frumunda cheese :pop:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Oh, and who gives a **** if some kid made Obama look like the Joker. Nobody gave a **** when Vanity Fair did it to Bush.**** Vanity Fair.

[Curly Bill]

**** Vanity Fair.

What, did they cancel your subscription? :P :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

If you have anything to say against his Barrackness you are a Nazi, hatefilled, ******.
Seriously...you guys need to get this "Nazi business" straightened out. First you carry signs and call President Obama a Nazi, now you accuse him of calling YOU Nazis.

Get on the same page. :rolleyes:

[Crucifax Autumn]

He's just pissed they didn't put his nude pregnant photos on the cover.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Seriously...you guys need to get this "Nazi business" straightened out. First you carry signs and call President Obama a Nazi, now you accuse him of calling YOU Nazis.

Get on the same page. :rolleyes:

He's a comnazimuslimhadeen

[LosAngelesSooner]

Ever hear of a protest turning violent and people getting shot? What? No? Oh yeah, it didn't happen.
You're kidding...right?

Tell me you didn't skip High School history class...

[Crucifax Autumn]

Haven't you heard? They ran out of PE, health, and art classes to cut and they abandoned history classes now!

[Collier11]

Last I checked it wasn't very smart to point a loaded firearm at someone/something who isn't directly threatening to you or someone else, but it's been awhile since I've been to a firearm safety course.

who pointed a loaded gun at anyone?

[Crucifax Autumn]

Me. I shot my wife in the face.

[MR2-Sooner86]

You're kidding...right?

Tell me you didn't skip High School history class...

Lets see...

Boston Massacre
Tiananmen Square

Oh wait, that was the government starting the violence not the people. My bad.

How about the Iran and Russian Revolutions? Nah, that was more of a overthrows of the government.

Also, I was talking about the past protest we're talking about. Did anybody get shot? No. How many people there had guns? Several. Any violence happen? No. Not a thing happened at all. Nip. Nadda. Nothin.
The only violence we have heard about is supposed fights with union members being at these meetings and that whole cluster on who did what.

[delhalew]

It doesn't matter. With LAS your dealing with some kind of stream of consciousness, white noise, dial tone, brain dead, fantasy land drival machine that just pumps out BS on a timer.

[KABOOKIE]

You guys are so offended that we have rights in this country and don't just mill about like cattle. If gets too hard for ya' relocate.



You first. After all...YOU lost.

He's not the one pouting like a big baby and threatening to move to Canada. Remember that one?

[Collier11]

Me. I shot my wife in the face.

not the squirt gun fool :eek:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Lets see...

Boston Massacre
Tiananmen Square

Oh wait, that was the government starting the violence not the people. My bad.

How about the Iran and Russian Revolutions? Nah, that was more of a overthrows of the government.
Bath, Michigan
May 18, 1927
By far the worst school massacre in US history took place in the tiny town of Bath, Michigan in 1927. There, an angry school board member named Andrew Kehoe blew up the town’s school, killing 45 and wounding 58. Most of the victims were kindergarten through sixth grade students. A secondary explosion killed Kehoe and the school Superintendent.



April 16, 2007
Blacksburg, Virginia
A student gunman killed 33 in dorms and a nearby classroom building. He then killed himself.



April 20, 1999
Littleton, Colorado
In what now is known as the Columbine Massacre, 13 are killed and 22 wounded by two gunmen.
August 1, 1966

Austin, Texas
From the observation deck of the University of Texas’ tower, Charles Whitman killed 16 and wounded 31 in a shooting rampage that lasted for 96 minutes.



March 21, 2005
Red Lake, Minnesota
A sixteen year old kills his grandfather and a friend, then heads to school where kills seven others. The massacre ends when he turns the gun on himself.



October 2, 2006
Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania
A gunman shot eleven Amish girls in a one-room schoolhouse, killing six.
January 1, 1989

Stockton, California
Five children are killed and 30 others wounded in a massacre at Cleveland Elementary. As is typical, the gunman also killed himself.
March 24, 1998

Jonesboro, Arkansas
A pair of boys, aged 11 and 13 shoot fifteen. A teacher and four students die.



November 1, 1991
Iowa City, Iowa
A Chinese graduate student, upset at being passed over for academic honors, kills five University of Iowa employees before turning the gun on himself.



April 15, 1995
San Diego, California
A 36-year-old graduate engineering student kills three professors while defending this thesis before a faculty committee.



Yeah. Gun owners are always calm. Panic never breaks out. People never get shot. No crazy, upset person could ever show up and start shootingg random people because they feel slighted or feel that they are morally right or feel that they are "losing the country they knew and loved and grew up in."


How about political protests though?


Okay...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


Not enough? Too far away?


How about this:




If dissident sentiment was slow to develop in Oklahoma during the 1960s, Vietnam War protests quickly reached their zenith during 1970. Pres. Richard Nixon's April 30, 1970, announcement of the war's escalation into neighboring Cambodia and the shooting deaths of four students by National Guard troops at Kent State University in Ohio led to a sharp increase in protest activity. On May 4 minor damage was reported at the University of Oklahoma Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) building on the Norman campus, and the Selective Service office in Norman was firebombed with little damage and no loss of records.



On May 6, 1970, a call for a general strike to support the antiwar movement at the University of Oklahoma brought out several hundred protesters, one of whom unfurled a Vietcong flag and was arrested under an Oklahoma state law forbidding the display of a procommunist flag. This incident led to an angry clash between students and "two busloads" of police and thirty-five Oklahoma Highway Patrol officers. Several protesters were injured in the demonstration, but only three were arrested. Almost two thousand students then gathered to march in a peaceful protest against the arrest of the flag-bearing student, and five hundred demonstrators occupied campus buildings and demanded changes from university administrators. Tempers flared and shoving matches ensued, but the OU student body voted 3,831 to 3,628 not to boycott classes. By the following week protests at the university were limited to students who carried picket signs outside of campus buildings and a few young men who burned their draft cards to protest the war. The University of Oklahoma later disciplined seven students for their activities during the demonstrations.


Other college campuses in Oklahoma witnessed similar incidents. Six hundred protesters at OSU in Stillwater tried to interfere with ROTC activities to show their opposition to the war, and about one hundred dissidents marched from Oklahoma City University to the city hall in Oklahoma City to demonstrate their dismay over the recent events at Kent State University and the Vietnam War in general. Elsewhere, two hundred students rallied against the war at Central State College (now University of Central Oklahoma) in Edmond, thirty students took part in a three-day hunger strike at Phillips University in Enid, and a teach-in against the war was held at the University of Tulsa.



On many campuses smaller groups of counter demonstrators appeared. At OU they struck and spat at Vietnam War protestors, and at OSU they carried signs that supported the Vietnam War but also indicated sorrow at the tragic events at Kent State. By mid-May 1970 an uneasy calm returned to the state's campuses, and the heyday of the Vietnam War protest movement in Oklahoma was over. The United States withdrew the last American troops from Vietnam in March 1973.


I could go on...and on...


I could get into the violence of the Civil Right's movement and show MORE examples of violence and death being sparked at protests/rallys/town hall meetings. But I paid ATTENTION in High School history class.


To say that violence could NEVER happen here in the U.S. at a political rally over a hot button issue in today's day and age is plain, simple STUPID.



Also, I was talking about the past protest we're talking about. Did anybody get shot? No. How many people there had guns? Several. Any violence happen? No. Not a thing happened at all. Nip. Nadda. Nothin.
The only violence we have heard about is supposed fights with union members being at these meetings and that whole cluster on who did what.Not yet. No...not yet. But that's like saying...hey, that wet dynamite hasn't gone off...YET.

It hasn't.

But it most likely will.

Why do you work so hard and go through such contortions to avoid simple common sense??

[LosAngelesSooner]

It doesn't matter. With LAS your dealing with some kind of stream of consciousness, white noise, dial tone, brain dead, fantasy land drival machine that just pumps out BS on a timer.Ha!

Final proof he's a Troll. He just bounced back from deep red in seconds.

That explains why he keeps posting such insane and idiotic drivel. LOL :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

He's not the one pouting like a big baby and threatening to move to Canada. Remember that one?I seem to remember QUITE A FEW of you guys doing that only months ago. :D

[delhalew]

:D :pop:

[Curly Bill]

I seem to remember QUITE A FEW of you guys doing that only months ago. :D

How bout you start providing names then.

[LosAngelesSooner]

You're testy lately...

[Collier11]

cus youre acting like a irrational psycho lately

[LosAngelesSooner]

cus youre acting like a irrational psycho lately:rolleyes:

[Curly Bill]

You're testy lately...

Just callin BS when I see it. ;) :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

If being reasonable and logical and using common sense constitutes "acting like an irrational psycho," then count me in.

[Collier11]

I dont think anyone in here would agree that you were the reasonable and logical one, you are being delusional again LAS...take yer meds

[Crucifax Autumn]

You really SHOULD try to be a rational psycho!

[LosAngelesSooner]

Just callin BS when I see it. ;) :DThen start calling BS on the actual BS.

You and I both remember a few on the ultra-right freaking out after the last election. Big Red Ron ring a bell?

[LosAngelesSooner]

I dont think anyone in here would agree that you were the reasonable and logical one, you are being delusional again LAS...take yer meds
Sure...sure. Keep tellin' yourself that. I'll pretend all the spek comments and PMs I've been getting lately don't exist. ;)

[Collier11]

You are so full of it, its cool though...and I thought spek didnt matter to you anyway? Make up yer mind

[Curly Bill]

Then start calling BS on the actual BS.

You and I both remember a few on the ultra-right freaking out after the last election. Big Red Ron ring a bell?

You said QUITE A FEW had threatened to move to Canada. I'd like a list of names constituting QUITE A FEW.

Pointing out Big Red Ron does not constitute quite a few.

[GrapevineSooner]

FWIW, Charles Whitman probably would have killed more people if not for the efforts of these same gun owners that LAS is railing against. You see, the Austin Police Department realized it was going to take awhile for them to get onsite at UT (remember, when seconds count the police are only minutes away). So what did they do?

They asked anybody with a gun to come down, point their rifles at Whitman's perch, and take aim at him. Which several responsible gun owners did, forcing Whitman to take cover himself until the cops could arrive to kill him.

Also, I'd argue all those instances that you cited were premeditated seeing as how they all took place in GUN FREE ZONES. You know, those places where the only people who abide by that law are law abiding citizens, thus proving that gun control is absurd on it's face because it's dependent on criminals following the law?

Which going back to what Charles Whitman did, I'm fairly certain UT was considered a gun free zone until the cops invited all the locals to come down with their guns.

The gun owners who went down to where Barack was speaking had their weapons in plain view, went up to the copes and assured them they weren't going to start any crap.

Big difference between them and the nutjobs you cited, LAS.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Hell, As far as I know there's always a ton of people who supported the losing candidate threatening to leave the country like Alec Baldwin did in 2000. They rarely follow through, if at all.

[Collier11]

FWIW, Charles Whitman probably would have killed more people if not for the efforts of these same gun owners that LAS is railing against. You see, the Austin Police Department realized it was going to take awhile for them to get onsite at UT (remember, when seconds count the police are only minutes away). So what did they do?

They asked anybody with a gun to come down, point their rifles at Whitman's perch, and take aim at him. Which several responsible gun owners did, forcing Whitman to take cover himself until the cops could arrive to kill him.

Also, I'd argue all those instances that you cited were premeditated seeing as how they all took place in GUN FREE ZONES. You know, those places where the only people who abide by that law are law abiding citizens, thus proving that gun control is absurd on it's face because it's dependent on criminals following the law?

Which going back to what Charles Whitman did, I'm fairly certain UT was considered a gun free zone until the cops invited all the locals to come down with their guns.

The gun owners who went down to where Barack was speaking had their weapons in plain view, went up to the copes and assured them they weren't going to start any crap.

Big difference between them and the nutjobs you cited, LAS.

I think they call that Game, Set, Match LAS! You are the weakest link, goodbye!

[Curly Bill]

Hell, As far as I know there's always a ton of people who supported the losing candidate threatening to leave the country like Alec Baldwin did in 2000. They rarely follow through, if at all.

I don't remember many of us on here threatening that though, and that is where once again LAS is wrong. ;)

He's getting used to it though. :D

[Crucifax Autumn]

You said QUITE A FEW had threatened to move to Canada. I'd like a list of names constituting QUITE A FEW.

Pointing out Big Red Ron does not constitute quite a few.

Big, Red, and Ron...That's 3!

[LosAngelesSooner]

You are so full of it, its cool though...and I thought spek didnt matter to you anyway? Make up yer mindNo...I'm really not.

I just call B.S. when I hear crazy, unsubstantiated, tin foil hat, wingnuttery.

And there has been a LOT of that on here lately.

[Curly Bill]

Big, Red, and Ron...That's 3!

Don't be helping LAS out, he can get PWNed all by himself. :D

[Collier11]

No...I'm really not.

I just call B.S. when I hear crazy, unsubstantiated, tin foil hat, wingnuttery.

And there has been a LOT of that on here lately.

from your own mouth

[Crucifax Autumn]

Personally, I go for the ALUMINUM foil hats.

[LosAngelesSooner]

I think they call that Game, Set, Match LAS! You are the weakest link, goodbye!Ha!Ha!Ha!

Hardly.

Man, I LOVE how you guys state one thing as your proof, then, when its shot down, you try to spin it around to another point...until that is shot down...and then another...and then another...

First it's "No protests in the US have ever ended in violence!"
Then it's "Only the government has ever caused a protest to end in violence."
Now it's "The gunowners helped STOP the violence!!!"

What's the next spin gonna be?

Bah! It doesn't matter. Common sense is simple. You bring guns to an emotionally heated event, all it'll take is one spark for catastrophe to transpire.

Common...
Freakin'...
Sense...

[LosAngelesSooner]

Don't be helping LAS out, he can get PWNed all by himself. :D:rolleyes:
Lord Jesus...I've been dragging you nutters across the polo field on this one all day long. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...


from your own mouth:rolleyes:

Dude? *psssshhh*

Whatever. You know I'm right on this one and it just hurts to damn well admit it.

And I'm tired of whoopin' on y'all.

[Crucifax Autumn]

Did those 3 threaten to go to Canada too?

[Collier11]

Ha!Ha!Ha!

Hardly.

Man, I LOVE how you guys state one thing as your proof, then, when its shot down, you try to spin it around to another point...until that is shot down...and then another...and then another...

First it's "No protests in the US have ever ended in violence!"
Then it's "Only the government has ever caused a protest to end in violence."
Now it's "The gunowners helped STOP the violence!!!"

What's the next spin gonna be?

Bah! It doesn't matter. Common sense is simple. You bring guns to an emotionally heated event, all it'll take is one spark for catastrophe to transpire.

Common...
Freakin'...
Sense...

Those are called facts LAS, you know the pride comes before the fall bro, one of these days you will have to gracefully admit that you are wrong...probably not happenin tonight though

[Veritas]

Seriously, taking a loaded gun to a protest (an event known to be filled with emotionally charged morons that don't have something better to be doing on a ****ing work day) isn't a very good idea. It falls under the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" category.

[KC//CRIMSON]

Seriously, taking a loaded gun to a protest (an event known to be filled with emotionally charged morons that don't have something better to be doing on a ****ing work day) isn't a very good idea. It falls under the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" category.


Chalk up another poster with common sense.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Did those 3 threaten to go to Canada too?Heh :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

Those are called facts LAS, you know the pride comes before the fall bro, one of these days you will have to gracefully admit that you are wrong...probably not happenin tonight though
Right.

And nobody in this thread agrees with me.

I'm off the deep end.

The facts are against me.

I'm all alone on this one.

WHO is gonna have to "gracefully admit that they are wrong?"

Not me, buddy. ;)

[LosAngelesSooner]

Seriously, taking a loaded gun to a protest (an event known to be filled with emotionally charged morons that don't have something better to be doing on a ****ing work day) isn't a very good idea. It falls under the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" category.And that...is what I've been saying...over and over...in this thread.

[Curly Bill]

:rolleyes:
Lord Jesus...I've been dragging things across my nutts on this one all day long....

:rolleyes:



FIXED for ya big boy! :D

[delhalew]

Seriously, taking a loaded gun to a protest (an event known to be filled with emotionally charged morons that don't have something better to be doing on a ****ing work day) isn't a very good idea. It falls under the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" category.

It might even be worse than that. From what I've seen these are people who actually do work for a living(as opposed to code pink or PETA or homeless person paid by ACORN for whatever). For them to take a vacation day to put up with this horse**** says to me they are very serious.

[LosAngelesSooner]

FIXED for ya big boy! :DThey ARE big...

[Curly Bill]

They ARE big...

Not what your girl said. :O

Maybe she just meant compared to me though. ;)

[delhalew]

And that...is what I've been saying...over and over...in this thread.

Another point of view is, yeah, maybe its not a great idea. However, since nothing bad has happened, why not ease up on the folks. They are within their rights.

[Crucifax Autumn]

But we've got the biggest balls of them all!

[Curly Bill]

Our balls are always bouncing.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Not what your girl said. :O

Maybe she just meant compared to me though. ;)From what I've heard you're actually just one ginormous ball.


Another point of view is, yeah, maybe its not a great idea. However, since nothing bad has happened, why not ease up on the folks.That's a good defense for drunk driving.

You should try it in court, sometime.

[delhalew]

From what I've heard you're actually just one ginormous ball.

That's a good defense for drunk driving.

You should try it in court, sometime.

I guess, if drunk driving were legal.

Be as big a hotshot as wanna be. I still won't be impressed.:cool:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Work on that reading comprehension, delhalew Troll, sir.

[Collier11]

Seriously, taking a loaded gun to a protest (an event known to be filled with emotionally charged morons that don't have something better to be doing on a ****ing work day) isn't a very good idea. It falls under the "just because you can doesn't mean you should" category.

that is your opinion, they have a constitutional right and they exercised that right peacefully so I dont really see where you or LAS have a leg to stand on

[tommieharris91]

that is your opinion, they have a constitutional right and they exercised that right peacefully so I dont really see where you or LAS have a leg to stand on

I love your post hoc logic.

[Collier11]

nothing post hoc about that brother, it is funny though that you would try and apply that to my argument when LAS is the post hoc king

[LosAngelesSooner]

Stop agreeing with me, guys. He already stated that nobody agreed with me and dismissed my feeling that "common sense" dictated this being a bad idea as being just my "pride" coming before my "fall." :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

nothing post hoc about that brother, it is funny though that you would try and apply that to my argument when LAS is the post hoc kingThose are called facts Collier11, you know the pride comes before the fall bro, one of these days you will have to gracefully admit that you are wrong...probably not happenin tonight though

:D

[tommieharris91]

nothing post hoc about that brother, it is funny though that you would try and apply that to my argument when LAS is the post hoc king

So what's not post hoc about this? "Someone brought a loaded assault rifle to a peaceful protest, nothing happened, thus it should keep happening."

I haven't read like half of this thread anyway. I don't really care about what LAS is saying here.

[Collier11]

What the majority of us are stating is based completely on fact and law, what you crazy fools are stating is based only on your outrageous view points.

It never ceases to amaze me how you talk it down non stop but then you constantly look for others on here and spek to validate you...stand alone my friend

[tommieharris91]

Those are called facts Collier11, you know the pride comes before the fall bro, one of these days you will have to gracefully admit that you are wrong...probably not happenin tonight though

:D

:pop:

[Collier11]

So what's not post hoc about this? "Someone brought a loaded assault rifle to a peaceful protest, nothing happened, thus it should keep happening."

I haven't read like half of this thread anyway. I don't really care about what LAS is saying here.

geez louise quit thinking with LAS's brain Tommie, you are better than that :D

[Collier11]

:pop:

you guys are the biggest bunch of hypocrites around, when GW is pres he is violating everyone's constitutional rights and needs to be prosecutes, when it is yer savior Obama the liar you have no problem with peoples rights being violated because something bad may happen one time at some point. Give me a break

[KC//CRIMSON]

you guys are the biggest bunch of hypocrites around, when GW is pres he is violating everyone's constitutional rights and needs to be prosecutes, when it is yer savior Obama the liar you have no problem with peoples rights being violated because something bad may happen one time at some point. Give me a break

So you're not seeing how this is a bad idea, but yet these are your quotes?

I can only imagine that this will end badly...

Someone will start taking shots if they were to get a chance, although I dont know that they would ever get close enough...

[LosAngelesSooner]

What the usual group of us knee-jerk defendants of the 2nd Amendment are stating is based completely on our opinions and law, what you crazy fools are stating is based only on your view points which are based on common sense and public welfare.
Fixed.

Oh, and I've ALWAYS stood alone, dude. And you know it. I don't have a clique or posse. That's why I always end up riling up both sides of the argument at one point or another.

But what's funny is how you say, "Nobody agrees with you," and then I show how people DO agree with me via PMs, posts and spek as my proof and you then say, "Don't use spek to justify you. Stand on your own!"

Srrsly, dude. Make up your mind. Am I on my own and need proof that anyone agrees with me or do I need to stand on my own and ignore all the people who agree with me. Srrsly?

Srrsly...

Srrsly.

[Collier11]

So you dont have the ability to separate the two points I made I guess KC?

I clearly stated that at some point it will probably end with some nut job doing something stupid, that is no secret

Speech is also a federally protected right and that turns out bad millions of times a day

[Collier11]

Fixed.

Oh, and I've ALWAYS stood alone, dude. And you know it. I don't have a clique or posse. That's why I always end up riling up both sides of the argument at one point or another.

But what's funny is how you say, "Nobody agrees with you," and then I show how people DO agree with me via PMs, posts and spek as my proof and you then say, "Don't use spek to justify you. Stand on own!"

Srrsly, dude. Make up your mind. Am I on my own and need proof that anyone agrees with me or do I need to stand on my own and ignore all the people who agree with me. Srrsly?

Srrsly...

Srrsly.

I never asked you for proof of anything, you felt compelled to point it out

This thread has been going on all day and ive counted about 3 that have publicly been on your side, my apologies...I guess you werent completely alone :cool: ;)

[tommieharris91]

:pop:


you guys are the biggest bunch of hypocrites around, when GW is pres he is violating everyone's constitutional rights and needs to be prosecutes, when it is yer savior Obama the liar you have no problem with peoples rights being violated because something bad may happen one time at some point. Give me a break

Wow, you really misconstrued this post.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Riiiiiiight.

Only 3.

Go back and count again, Barak. I know you have "trouble with numbers under 500 million." ;)

[Collier11]

Wow, you really misconstrued this post.

not talking about the post Tommie, im talking bout the crazy libs, pay tention damnit :D

[Collier11]

Ill gracefully exit this thread with the following, LAS you are wrong and a little loopy and tommie, the cubs suck! :D

[LosAngelesSooner]

*sigh*

It has been declared...so it is said, so it is law.

:rolleyes:

[olevetonahill]

Just gonna toss my nickles worth in here
I just read this thread and Im amazed at the Idiocy.
Question number 1

Did the Dude do anything Illegal ?
# 2 who can ya think of ( from yer History class , LAS )Has ever Carried a weapon to a protest ?
Does 1776 dealio ring a bell :rolleyes:

How many of you that Put the dude down for Having the weapon would have the Balls to go to WAR and defend this country ?
I wager very few:(

How about defending this Countries Founding Principals?

No Yall are to Busy sayin " this aint right , thats wrong "

Yes I agree It wernt a great Idea on the dudes Part
But Ya know what? It was HIS RIGHT :cool:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Just gonna toss my nickles worth in here
I just read this thread and Im amazed at the Idiocy.
Question number 1

Did the Dude do anything Illegal ?No.
And nobody is accusing him of doing anything illegal.

# 2 who can ya think of ( from yer History class , LAS )Has ever Carried a weapon to a protest ?
Does 1776 dealio ring a bell :rolleyes: Sure does.

Are you equating our current situation to those immediately before the revolution of 1776? Are you saying we should consider armed revolt?


How many of you that Put the dude down for Having the weapon would have the Balls to go to WAR and defend this country ?
I wager very few:( You'd lose that wager. I, for one, wouldn't hesitate to pick up arms to defend our country. I'd wager Veritas, KC, Tommy, et all, would be right beside me.


How about defending this Countries Founding Principals?

No Yall are to Busy sayin " this aint right , thats wrong "

Yes I agree It wernt a great Idea on the dudes Part
But Ya know what? It was HIS RIGHT :cool:How about defending COMMON SENSE? Good judgment? Public well being?

No, you're too busy seeing threats to the 2nd Amendment instead of seeing how this one example of someone using poor judgment (and that's ALL those of us against this moron are accusing him of doing) could have resulted in a MASSIVE loss of lives. OR how this could have been perceived as an attempt to step ON free speech.

I'd have a lot less problems with this if it had been a rally defending the 2nd Amendment or gun owners rights or even an NRA powwow, BUT IT WASN'T.

How about you answer me this: Why is it any time someone DARES to question ANYONE using a gun in ANY WAY they are labeled some kind of ***** who wouldn't dare stand up and defend our country and willingly give our lives for our neighbor's and children's freedom?? That's cheap horse****.

The guy didn't break any laws, but what he did was dumb. And if more people keep doing it, mark my words, some innocent lives will be lost in a tragic accident.:cool::cool:

[olevetonahill]

No.
And nobody is accusing him of doing anything illegal.
Sure does.

Are you equating our current situation to those immediately before the revolution of 1776? Are you saying we should consider armed revolt?
Wait on the cops ?:rolleyes:
You'd lose that wager. I, for one, wouldn't hesitate to pick up arms to defend our country. I'd wager Veritas, KC, Tommy, et all, would be right beside me.
Bet yer glad yer past:P draft age
How about defending COMMON SENSE? Good judgment? Public well being?

No, you're too busy seeing threats to the 2nd Amendment instead of seeing how this one example of someone using poor judgment (and that's ALL those of us against this moron are accusing him of doing) could have resulted in a MASSIVE loss of lives. OR how this could have been perceived as an attempt to step ON free speech.

I'd have a lot less problems with this if it had been a rally defending the 2nd Amendment or gun owners rights or even an NRA powwow, BUT IT WASN'T.

How about you answer me this: Why is it any time someone DARES to question ANYONE using a gun in ANY WAY they are labeled some kind of ***** who wouldn't dare stand up and defend our country and willingly give our lives for our neighbor's and children's freedom?? That's cheap horse****.
Thats full of shat and Ya know it
The guy didn't break any laws, but what he did was dumb. And if more people keep doing it, mark my words, some innocent lives will be lost in a tragic accident.:cool::cool:

Didn't I say it were dumb ?

[LosAngelesSooner]

Hey, Drunky...were those supposed to be ANSWERS?

'Cause, if so, they are total FAIL.

Also, if our country were threatened, I wouldn't have to be drafted, I'd join right the eff up.

[olevetonahill]

Hey, Drunky...were those supposed to be ANSWERS?
Yes I believe they where
'Cause, if so, they are total FAIL.
Thank you for the score
Also, if our country were threatened, I wouldn't have to be drafted, I'd join right the eff up.

Please define that part ok ?
Its Much easier to say you " WOULD "
than to say " I have":rolleyes:

[LosAngelesSooner]

Please define that part ok ?
Its Much easier to say you " WOULD "
than to say " I have":rolleyes:They didn't need me. The fine men and women of our armed forces were more than enough to handle any threats we've faced since I've been alive.

And, no...they didn't answer any questions, dude.

You drunk?

[olevetonahill]

They didn't need me. The fine men and women of our armed forces were more than enough to handle any threats we've faced since I've been alive.
Under that scenario I could have just went to Canada, They dint need ME
And, no...they didn't answer any questions, dude.

You drunk?

Not tonight But I usually am , Kinda has something to do with the PTSD from a REAL war
Thanks fer askin

[beer4me]

“I could get into the violence of the Civil Right's movement and show MORE examples of violence and death being sparked at protests/rallys/town hall meetings. But I paid ATTENTION in High School history class.”


That's pretty funny how you post this long list of murders which have NOTHING to do with this thread.

Columbine
Austin
Bath
Blacksburg

Etc…. had absolutely nothing to do with a political protest.

These were acts of very disturbed people plain and simple.


Yes the violence that sparked at those were sparked by the COPS that were carrying the GUNS.

You must been absent the day they taught the Kent State lesson in history class.

It was the State Government (National Guard) that opened fire there partner not protesters carrying guns

….Oh wait the protesters didn’t have any guns.

[Harry Beanbag]

Are you equating our current situation to those immediately before the revolution of 1776?

He might not be, but I would. The Founding Fathers would cringe at today's Federal Government.




Are you saying we should consider armed revolt?

It's the duty of Americans to always question government and take any necessary action to preserve their Liberty.

[KABOOKIE]

Remember people. LAS stirs up both sides of the aurgument!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Collier11]

just cus he is so confused about what he believes, not on purpose ;)

[Crucifax Autumn]

This thread is actually kinda funny. I actually have no real opinion one way or the other honestly.

What I DO find interesting is that for the first time in the history of the SO a bunch of hardline conservatives are arguing FOR the black guy toting around a gun on a city street and the libs are saying he ougtta be arrested or something! lol

You guys keep fighting it out and meet me on that fence in the middle and drink a beer when you're done.

[Boomer Mooner]

I believe in the second amendment, but I also cringe at guys like this trying to get publicity by flaunting a scary black rifle close to a political event, or really anywhere it isn't necessary. This kind of behavior just turns off people in the middle. The guy is absolutely within his rights of free speech and to keep and bear arms, I just think he's foolish to make so many people uneasy about it.

[sooneron]

I haven't read this entire thread. It's too painful. I'm not sure if this scenario has been put forth. Let's say that 3-4 "law abiding semi auto carriers" go to a rally. Now let's say some whacko shows up and ends up squeezing a few off from his 9 or whatever. Most peeps hit the deck or run. Now you have chaos (understandably) and cops looking for non uniformed peeps that did the shooting. IMO, the dudes standing there with rifles or whatever slung are putting themselves in serious harm's way. IMO=not too smart
It's not like they're going to throw their guns down and take off running with those not packing. I'm sure the number of cops at these things, especially if people with firepower are showing up, is pretty high.

[1890MilesToNorman]

I think we need to ban keyboards, at least a 7 day waiting period before posting thoughts.

[Sooner_Bob]

I think the whole "lets bring assault rifles to political ****" stupid as ****! People are idiots for doing it. If Obama happened to be walking past one of them and the guy makes a wrong move then boom, he takes one right in the face. I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry for the guy either, how ****ing dumb.

Then it would be the "idiots" own fault . . . it would be his right to make the wrong move. :rolleyes:

[Sooner_Bob]

Yes, but there is a time and a place for firearms. And political protests are not one of them, IMO.

It's not about time OR place . . . it is about the right to have them.

[Sooner_Bob]

Oh, and who gives a **** if some kid made Obama look like the Joker. Nobody gave a **** when Vanity Fair did it to Bush.

Exactly . . . buncha whiners.

[Sooner_Bob]

You are so full of it, its cool though...and I thought spek didnt matter to you anyway? Make up yer mind

It's where he provides his most bestest digs at peoples' opinions . . . :rolleyes:

[sooneron]

It's not about time OR place . . . it is about the right to have them.

So if I take one to a church picnic, it aint no thang? What if I just sit next to a park filled with school kids and talk to it whilst polishing it with a hanky? It's my right, right? What if your family is at said park? I mean, no one should get uncomfortable or anything, right?

BTW, I like playing devil's advocate.

[Harry Beanbag]

What if I just sit next to a park filled with school kids and talk to it whilst polishing it with a hanky?


Pervert.

[sooneron]

Pervert.

you betcha!:gary:

[JLEW1818]

I'm still waiting for a copy cat thread

[sooneron]

I'm still waiting for a copy cat thread

Nun molesters ???

I got nuthin'

[KABOOKIE]

Grenade show jesters huffing their best out?

[Animal Mother]

It doesn't matter. With LAS your dealing with some kind of stream of consciousness, white noise, dial tone, brain dead, fantasy land drival machine that just pumps out BS on a timer.

The horse's mouth ladies and gentlemen!

[KABOOKIE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmecy94z-M&feature=related

[Curly Bill]

The horse's mouth ladies and gentlemen!

The troll's mouth ladies and gentlemen!

[SCOUT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmecy94z-M&feature=related

Well yeah, just as long as they don't carry firearms.

[Animal Mother]

The troll's mouth ladies and gentlemen!

Oh no! Did I insult one of your reach around buddies? My bad! I forgot this place is turning into some 9th dimension version of "West Side Story" and we're all suppose to pick a gang and bang it. Call me troll again and I'll get out my treble hook. Crikey! Using the word troll is almost as bad as being a member of the GSP Police. (Grammar spelling and punctuation)

[Collier11]

Then why you whining about it so much if it doesnt bother you?

[Harry Beanbag]

Then why you whining about it so much if it doesnt bother you?

Because he's a whiny bitch of a troll. :)

[Crucifax Autumn]

Christ! I thought all those positions were already filled!