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OklahomaTuba
8/14/2009, 12:40 PM
I think the libz/socialists boycotting this place will actually help their sales with the normal folks...


Health Care Stirs Up Whole Foods CEO John Mackey, Customers Boycott Organic Grocery Store...

The op-ed piece, which begins with a Margaret Thatcher quote, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money," has left some Whole Foods loyalists enraged.

Many say Mackey was out of line to opine against the liberal base that has made his fortune possible.http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8322658&page=1

Funny how the socialist quote is "enraging" the liberal base.

jeremy885
8/14/2009, 01:15 PM
Good luck with that.


Mackey provided eight "reforms" he argued the U.S. can do to improve health care without increasing the deficit. He suggested that tax forms be revised to "make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance."

1890MilesToNorman
8/14/2009, 01:20 PM
Good luck with that.

I agree, Liberals don't want to give their money they want to give your money.

LosAngelesSooner
8/14/2009, 01:20 PM
'cause "Libz" shopping at a place makes the food taste worse.

LosAngelesSooner
8/14/2009, 01:21 PM
I agree, Liberals don't want to give their money they want to give your money.
Right.

That's why Liberals only raise taxes on Conservatives. :rolleyes:



I'll guaran-damn-tee you that if the "Liberals" decide to boycott Wholefoods, it'll not only be EXTREMELY effective, but it'll also make that doofus come out with a bit of verbal crawfishing on his position.

soonerscuba
8/14/2009, 01:24 PM
I have no idea why this thread differs than the other one, but just as a friendly PSA, local food (organic or conventional) is better than what you are likely to pick up at Whole Foods, support your local farms and farmer's markets.

jeremy885
8/14/2009, 01:34 PM
I agree, Liberals don't want to give their money they want to give your money.

I don't see anyone (liberal or conservative) doing it. The items you can take against your refund in OK are nice, but do they really earn the programs needed funding or just an additional box of copier paper for the organization each year?

StoopTroup
8/14/2009, 01:35 PM
soonerscuba is an expert on organic foods?

soonerscuba
8/14/2009, 01:54 PM
soonerscuba is an expert on organic foods?Not at all, just a Pollan disciple. The basic construct is that sustainability is better served by a conventionally grown tomato than an organic one fridged and shipped 1500 miles to a store. Ideally, organically grown, local produce is the best thing you can do for your local farmers, your local environment, and local business. This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics, and I certainly don't look down on those who choose to go to the Safeway (or Whole Foods), but I personally think that eating local food year round is probably the way we evolved to nourish ourselves. Although it's hard to argue why eating mangos in December is a bad thing.

Scott D
8/14/2009, 04:40 PM
I have no idea why this thread differs than the other one, but just as a friendly PSA, local food (organic or conventional) is better than what you are likely to pick up at Whole Foods, support your local farms and farmer's markets.

or more importantly...support local producers and not Austin.

royalfan5
8/14/2009, 04:45 PM
or more importantly...support local producers and not Austin.

even more importantly, eat more pork products. We need to step up our bacon and ham consumption to help out my guys with finishing floors.

bluedogok
8/14/2009, 08:01 PM
I have no idea why this thread differs than the other one, but just as a friendly PSA, local food (organic or conventional) is better than what you are likely to pick up at Whole Foods, support your local farms and farmer's markets.
...but what if Whole Foods IS local? :D

We shop there rarely, there isn't one in South Austin (the main HQ store is downtown and one up north by my office) but there is an HEB Central Market (San Antonio based) down here.

delhalew
8/14/2009, 08:26 PM
OK so again...guy craps on socialism and liberals get mad.................crickets chirping.................

KC//CRIMSON
8/14/2009, 08:30 PM
OK so again...guy craps.....

Tuba craps a lot, you'll get use to it.

GrapevineSooner
8/14/2009, 08:32 PM
Personally, I think Mackey is going to learn the same hard lesson the Dixie Chicks learned when they crapped over their right-leaning country music fans.

Mackey has a right to hold whichever viewpoint he wants on this issue. And while I appreciate that it's one in line with the one I hold, from a business perspective, it was dumb.

And whatever gains he may get from conservative customers will be short lived. It almost always is.

AlbqSooner
8/14/2009, 10:29 PM
And whatever gains he may get from conservative customers will be short lived. It almost always is.

Yeah but those tofu breathed, sprout eating, tree hugging libz can't stay away from Organic Wal-Mart (Whole Foods) for very long either.:D

Scott D
8/14/2009, 11:39 PM
Personally, I think Mackey is going to learn the same hard lesson the Dixie Chicks learned when they crapped over their right-leaning country music fans.

Mackey has a right to hold whichever viewpoint he wants on this issue. And while I appreciate that it's one in line with the one I hold, from a business perspective, it was dumb.

And whatever gains he may get from conservative customers will be short lived. It almost always is.

My personal favorite was his diarrhea of the mouth to the British Press which resulted in a 40% drop in sales in their Great Britain locations.

Lott's Bandana
8/14/2009, 11:40 PM
Not at all, just a Pollan disciple. The basic construct is that sustainability is better served by a conventionally grown tomato than an organic one fridged and shipped 1500 miles to a store. Ideally, organically grown, local produce is the best thing you can do for your local farmers, your local environment, and local business. This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics, and I certainly don't look down on those who choose to go to the Safeway (or Whole Foods), but I personally think that eating local food year round is probably the way we evolved to nourish ourselves. Although it's hard to argue why eating mangos in December is a bad thing.

I loves me some Oklahoma pineapple.

Lott's Bandana
8/14/2009, 11:42 PM
Yeah but those tofu breathed, sprout eating, tree hugging libz can't stay away from Organic Wal-Mart (Whole Foods) for very long either.:D


Dood, you've got Trader Joe's now...just sit and be happy. I would.

soonerboomer93
8/15/2009, 11:03 AM
My parents shop there and they aren't exactly libs.

I'd shop there if one was close. I know the locations they shop have a fair amount of local products.

yermom
8/15/2009, 11:45 AM
doesn't the health care lobby have it out for his style of insurance too?

KC//CRIMSON
8/15/2009, 11:50 AM
Dood, you've got Trader Joe's now...just sit and be happy. I would.

Trader Joe's is the shiznit!

StoopTroup
8/15/2009, 04:33 PM
Not at all, just a Pollan disciple. The basic construct is that sustainability is better served by a conventionally grown tomato than an organic one fridged and shipped 1500 miles to a store. Ideally, organically grown, local produce is the best thing you can do for your local farmers, your local environment, and local business. This has nothing whatsoever to do with politics, and I certainly don't look down on those who choose to go to the Safeway (or Whole Foods), but I personally think that eating local food year round is probably the way we evolved to nourish ourselves. Although it's hard to argue why eating mangos in December is a bad thing.

I don't think you are wrong...I think organic usually taste better but as far as better for you? I just don't know. It all makes a turd. Americans have been eating some pretty awful stuff over the last few decades and life expentency in America is still pretty good.

Sometimes all of these "Eat this not that advice" is about as bad as when we were all told we would die if we didn't start drinking bottled water instead of tap water. What happened then is that kids started getting lots of dental problems. Also later some found out the water wasn't even special...it had just been taken out of the local water supply, bottled then sold to us to separate our money from our pockets.

Aspartame was another thing that was going to be the ruin of us all.

yermom
8/15/2009, 04:37 PM
how many people of life expectancy age right now grew up eating hormone infused beef and chicken or HFCS?

StoopTroup
8/15/2009, 04:39 PM
most of them

yermom
8/15/2009, 04:49 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup


HFCS was rapidly introduced to many processed foods and soft drinks in the U.S. from about 1975 to 1985.

http://www.scionline.org/index.php/Hormones_and_Modern_Livestock


Growth Hormones have been implanted in livestock for the past 40 years.

granted i haven't thoroughly checked those sources, but those are fairly new things that have been shown to have adverse effects on health and my grandparents didn't grow up with them

that's not even covering pesticides, etc...

i just don't think you can make that statement on life expectancy scientifically. they haven't been used long enough to know that yet

StoopTroup
8/16/2009, 07:55 AM
But there are so many good things in there to override the bad things Yermom...otherwise...how can you explain the Adonis Physical Shape you and I both possess? :D

ndpruitt03
8/16/2009, 08:04 AM
So someone gets boycotted for actually wanting reform? That's more than our president wants right now. He's even quoted as saying "You can keep your healthcare if you like it" despite also saying he wants to completely change the system, which will eventually force people out of healthcare. Obama and his fellow politicians will just end up making us pay more for healthcare in the end through different means. Other countries do pay less for healthcare, but they pay more for just about everything else. BTW we also pay more for school, our mail, and social security and those are all woefully inefficient also.