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[GottaHavePride]

I don't have time to figure out the right combination of words to hunt it down.

My dad works for a big-time USC homer who claims USC has something like 12 national championships, and that even if you throw out the year LSU won the title (that they claim as a NC) USC still has more championships than OU.

Can someone find (or re-post) one of those breakdowns of what candy-assed polls they're claiming as championships as well as a list of how many NCs we could claim if we were counting every little local newspaper poll out there?

PLZ? KTHX.

[badger]

Try their wikipedia. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USC_Trojans_football)

According to that, USC, claims 11 titles, but according to the title page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I-A_national_football_championship), they could claim 16.

OU could claim 17. However, non top... (drumroll please)... PRINCETON!

Yes, Princeton can claim 28 national titles. :rolleyes:

[OUDoc]

Or this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_National_Football_Championship

[OUDoc]

From my same link:
School Championships
Princeton 28
Yale 27
Michigan 22
Notre Dame 21
Oklahoma 17
Alabama 16
USC 16
Ohio State 13
Harvard 12
Nebraska 11
Pittsburgh 11
Miami 9
Texas 9
Florida State 7
LSU 7
Minnesota 7
Penn State 7
Tennessee 7
Georgia Tech 6
Michigan State 6
Pennsylvania 6
Army 5


Tell him to at least compare bull**** titles to bull**** titles.

[NormanPride]

That list must be old. Alabama has at least 10 more titles now...

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Bama has 116 National Championships...they have won EVERY single year of their existence!!

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

On their Web site, USC claims 11 NC's in football:

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/trads/usc-nattitles.html


1928 Howard Jones
1931 Howard Jones
1932 Howard Jones
1939 Howard Jones
1962 John McKay
1967 John McKay
1972 John McKay
1974 John McKay
1978 John Robinson
2003 Pete Carroll
2004 Pete Carroll

By my count (and most college football fans with half a working brain), USC has 5 LEGITIMATE National Championships. The first four are illegitimate (first 3 predate the AP poll, and 1939 is generally recognized as A&M's...USC backdates it via the obscure "Dickinson System"). '62, '67, '72 has no arguement from me. The "half title" comes from 1974, which we claim via the AP poll, and the ONLY reason we don't have the UPI title from that year too is because we were on probation due to Kerry Jackson's grades. 1978 was a split title with (who else?) Alabama, but I'll still concede that one. 2003 is COMPLETELY illegitimate, because it's an AP title from the BCS era, which carries no weight. Period. End of discussion. The AP poll was 1/3 of the BCS at that time, so (at best) they have 1/3 of a title. But the Pac-10 (and every other BCS Conference) signed up to the system BEFORE the season, and you can't change the rules at the end simply because it benefits you (lookin' at you, *Mack* Brown). 2004...well, TGOWWDNSO. No other explanation necessary.

So you have 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974*, 1978, 2004. 5.5 National Championships in football...NOT 11

[badger]

Has A&M already filed suit over the 1939 championship like they did with Seattle taking the 12th man title? :P

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

Yes.

Texas Agricultural and Mechanical University v. University of Alabama

[SteelClip49]

In the poll era....USC, Oklahoma and Alabama are tied at 7 with Notre Dame leading the way at 8.

USC and Alabama try and claim non-AP titles after the AP began citing that the AP was still fairly new and not nationally recognized yet...which is bullcrap.

As soon as the AP began, no other selector carried the same weight despite its prestige. The FWAA (MacArthur Bowl Trophy) and NFF (Grantland Rice Trophy) are still handed out are still very much recognized BUT not as as the AP and BCS are. The AP became the first national service (wire) selector/ coast-to-coast entity whereas the football writers association of america were comprised of writers and other people but never did gain the notoriety of the AP and later the UPI.

For a USC fan, his intelligence sure is lacking. Tell him if USC can go back 65 years ago and claim a national title then Auburn has every right to be recognized as 2004 national champions.

National title history in college football is my specialty....will educate anyone!

[yermom]

from the official site...

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/m-footbl-national-championships.html

[XingTheRubicon]

OU has 7 AP titles and 6 UPI titles....(7 different years, 13 total).

OU = 13 total
rest of Earth = less

[stoopified]

According to collegefootballdatawarehouse .com OU has 23 National titles.

[stoopified]

I stand corrected.I just lookrd it up and apparently someone or something called Sports Theory awarded us the 2008 NC.Maybe it is just me but this is just another reason I don't like claiming Bama style NCs.

[GottaHavePride]

Heh. Thanks guys.

[Animal Mother]

On their Web site, USC claims 11 NC's in football:

http://usctrojans.cstv.com/trads/usc-nattitles.html



By my count (and most college football fans with half a working brain), USC has 5 LEGITIMATE National Championships. The first four are illegitimate (first 3 predate the AP poll, and 1939 is generally recognized as A&M's...USC backdates it via the obscure "Dickinson System"). '62, '67, '72 has no arguement from me. The "half title" comes from 1974, which we claim via the AP poll, and the ONLY reason we don't have the UPI title from that year too is because we were on probation due to Kerry Jackson's grades. 1978 was a split title with (who else?) Alabama, but I'll still concede that one. 2003 is COMPLETELY illegitimate, because it's an AP title from the BCS era, which carries no weight. Period. End of discussion. The AP poll was 1/3 of the BCS at that time, so (at best) they have 1/3 of a title. But the Pac-10 (and every other BCS Conference) signed up to the system BEFORE the season, and you can't change the rules at the end simply because it benefits you (lookin' at you, *Mack* Brown). 2004...well, TGOWWDNSO. No other explanation necessary.

So you have 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974*, 1978, 2004. 5.5 National Championships in football...NOT 11


I knew Howard Jones must have done something before being a musician. I didn't know he coached at SUC.