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JLEW1818
7/30/2009, 03:19 PM
New rules and points of emphasis for upcoming season

July 30, 2009

NORMAN, Okla. - Each year the NCAA tweaks its football rules. In this article, SoonerSports.com shares the definition that has been added for the 2009 season, courtesy of Walt Anderson, the Big 12 Conference's Director of Football Officials.

Rule 1-4-3-a, Jersey Colors -- Creates a process to allow the visiting team to wear colored (non-white) jerseys when the home team also wears colored jerseys. The Big 12 Conference already has a policy in place to allow the home team to wear white jerseys if approved in advance before the season by both schools. The new rule allows that one jersey does not have to be white, but must be of a contrasting color and approved in advance by the conference office in terms of enough contrast.

Rule 1-4-3-d, Glove Colors -- This rule confirms that the portion of the glove visible against the opponent's jersey must be gray but the palms of gloves can be gray or black.

Rule 2-34, Definition of Tackle Box -- Defines the area used for limitations on the rules for intentional grounding and roughing the kicker. Because of changes in distances between offensive linemen, the new rule established the tackle box as five yards from the snapper on either side, extending back behind the quarterback to the end line of the field. The box disintegrates once the quarterback leaves the tackle box, but the five yards on each side remains the same regardless of how many or wide the splits of the offensive linemen.

Rule 3-2-3, Extension of Periods -- Prevents the offense from gaining the unfair advantage of an additional play if it completes an illegal forward pass for a touchdown as time in a half expires. If the quarterback is beyond the line of scrimmage and throws a pass on the last play of a period, since the penalty involves loss of down, the period will now be over.

Rules 3-2-4-c, 3-35-f, Play Clock Set to 40 seconds or a Team B Injury -- This codifies a change made via interpretation during the 2008 season. Team B could potentially "game" the clock rules if the play clock is set to 25 seconds for an injury to a Team B player, with fewer than 40 seconds left in a half. When an injury occurs, the play clock will always be set to 40 when a Team B player is injured or to 25 seconds when a Team A player is injured. The referee will still have discretion to adjust the play or game clock if he deems a team using any clock rule in an unfair manner.

Rule 7-1-3-b-1, Offensive Team Formation -- This rule eliminates penalizing Team A for only 10 players: six on the line and four in the backfield. The rule now requires there be no more than four players in the backfield, and a team must still have five players numbered 50-79 on the line of scrimmage.

7-3-10, Ineligible Receiver Downfield -- This rule simplifies the current three-yard expansion of the neutral zone and is consistent with the national philosophy of how it is officiated. Offensive linemen are not considered downfield unless they are more than three yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

Rule 9-1-4-a-5, Roughing the Kicker -- This rule change addresses the issue of the rugby-style kicker who runs several steps before kicking the ball. Under this change, he would not receive roughing-the-kicker protection if he is outside the tackle box when he kicks, so defenders are free to pursue and contact him like any runner. When it is obvious he has kicked the ball and is not pursuing the play, he still cannot be fouled unnecessarily like the current rule on hitting any player obviously out of the play.

Rule 9-6, Flagrant Personal Fouls -- The rule on targeting defenseless players above the shoulders has not changed, but emphasis has been added by the Rules Committee that allows conference to impose further penalties should a foul not be called on any action deemed in video review by the conference official to be illegal. The conference can impose further action including suspending a player for subsequent games or periods if any action deemed to be flagrant was either not penalized by officials with an ejection on the field or actions by a player warrant further action from the conference office. In addition, officials have been instructed to scrutinize this area much more closely. When in question they will throw a flag for action they deem is targeting defenseless opponents above the shoulders. Officials are encouraged to eject players they deem to have committed this act in an intentional or flagrant manner. The Big 12 will again produce a training tape to illustrate examples of legal and illegal hits, but players are being warned that this area is a growing concern by the Rules Committee and officials. Conference offices are being asked to tighten up on enforcement.

Rule 9-6, Instant Replay -- There are two additional types of plays that are now reviewable ... 1. If the official rules that a passer makes a forward pass when it fact the play is a fumble, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball. 2. If officials rule a pass is forward and incomplete when, in fact, it is a backward pass, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball.


http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/073009aaa.html

setem
7/30/2009, 03:30 PM
So are they saying in Rule 9-6 late hits are reviewable?

That if a player is not penalized in a game for busting up another player ala aTm vs Texas a few years back, that player can be penalized after review of the tapes and the game is over?

What about ***** QB's who draw late hit penalties out of bounds even though he was never touched?

Octavian
7/30/2009, 03:38 PM
Rule 2-34, Definition of Tackle Box -- Defines the area used for limitations on the rules for intentional grounding and roughing the kicker. Because of changes in distances between offensive linemen, the new rule established the tackle box as five yards from the snapper on either side, extending back behind the quarterback to the end line of the field. The box disintegrates once the quarterback leaves the tackle box, but the five yards on each side remains the same regardless of how many or wide the splits of the offensive linemen.


good




Rule 9-1-4-a-5, Roughing the Kicker -- This rule change addresses the issue of the rugby-style kicker who runs several steps before kicking the ball. Under this change, he would not receive roughing-the-kicker protection if he is outside the tackle box when he kicks, so defenders are free to pursue and contact him like any runner. When it is obvious he has kicked the ball and is not pursuing the play, he still cannot be fouled unnecessarily like the current rule on hitting any player obviously out of the play.


good



Rule 9-6, Flagrant Personal Fouls -- The rule on targeting defenseless players above the shoulders has not changed, but emphasis has been added by the Rules Committee that allows conference to impose further penalties should a foul not be called on any action deemed in video review by the conference official to be illegal. The conference can impose further action including suspending a player for subsequent games or periods if any action deemed to be flagrant was either not penalized by officials with an ejection on the field or actions by a player warrant further action from the conference office. In addition, officials have been instructed to scrutinize this area much more closely. When in question they will throw a flag for action they deem is targeting defenseless opponents above the shoulders. Officials are encouraged to eject players they deem to have committed this act in an intentional or flagrant manner. The Big 12 will again produce a training tape to illustrate examples of legal and illegal hits, but players are being warned that this area is a growing concern by the Rules Committee and officials. Conference offices are being asked to tighten up on enforcement.


stupid



Rule 9-6, Instant Replay -- There are two additional types of plays that are now reviewable ... 1. If the official rules that a passer makes a forward pass when it fact the play is a fumble, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball. 2. If officials rule a pass is forward and incomplete when, in fact, it is a backward pass, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball.


incredibly confusing and will create a storm the first time it happens and changes the course of a game -- thats what happens when you open pandora's replay box

Statalyzer
7/30/2009, 05:11 PM
Rule 3-2-3, Extension of Periods -- Prevents the offense from gaining the unfair advantage of an additional play if it completes an illegal forward pass for a touchdown as time in a half expires. If the quarterback is beyond the line of scrimmage and throws a pass on the last play of a period, since the penalty involves loss of down, the period will now be over.

I thought this was already the case. If the clock runs out during a play, the half is over, unless the offense accepts a penalty on the defense. At least that was my understanding.

Rule 9-6, Instant Replay -- There are two additional types of plays that are now reviewable ... 1. If the official rules that a passer makes a forward pass when it fact the play is a fumble, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball. 2. If officials rule a pass is forward and incomplete when, in fact, it is a backward pass, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball.

This is good.

The only reason potential fumbles that were called "down by contact" or "incomplete pass" is that when the whistle blows, some players slow/down stop. So, even if you review the play, it's not fair to grant one team recovery of the ball when they recovered it after the whistle blew.

But this rule change means that if you are 100% sure the whistle didn't affect a recovery, it's reviewable. This is good.

Imagine that a QB gets clobbered and coughs up the ball, and a defensive lineman snatches it out of midair on the bounce and starts running downfield, and then the ref blows the whistle saying "incomplete pass". While the guy can't be given the return yardage, the defense should be able to take possession at the spot of the recovery since the DL was already running downfield with the ball when the whistle stopped the play.

sooner518
7/30/2009, 05:14 PM
Rule 9-6, Instant Replay -- There are two additional types of plays that are now reviewable ... 1. If the official rules that a passer makes a forward pass when it fact the play is a fumble, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball. 2. If officials rule a pass is forward and incomplete when, in fact, it is a backward pass, replay can make correction provided the recovery by the defense is immediate and there is clear and visible evidence of who recovers the ball.

And if a quarterback fumbles, the defense immediately recovers and returns the ball for a touchdown....but it is ruled an incomplete pass?

Or how about if a quarterback fumbles, the whistle blows because the ref rules it is an incomplete pass therefore the offense doesn't attempt to recover the ball, while the defense recovers the ball soon after?

Rule change-FAIL

Statalyzer
7/30/2009, 05:18 PM
Or how about if a quarterback fumbles, the whistle blows because the ref rules it is an incomplete pass therefore the offense doesn't attempt to recover the ball, while the defense recovers the ball soon after?

Then it's not reviewable. It's only reviewable if the recovery was too immediate for the whistle to affect the play.


And if a quarterback fumbles, the defense immediately recovers and returns the ball for a touchdown....but it is ruled an incomplete pass?

Same as for an interception returned for TD that is ruled an incomplete pass has always been done the past few years. The defense gets the interception but not the return yardage, b/c of the whistle blowing affecting the return.

BoulderSooner79
7/30/2009, 07:10 PM
I have no problem with the flagrant foul rule. It just means you don't get away with crap just because the ref is not looking. It won't change the game, but could result in a suspension in the next game. It also prepares the kids for the NFL where it hits their wallets :O

Octavian
7/30/2009, 07:12 PM
This is good.

The only reason potential fumbles that were called "down by contact" or "incomplete pass" is that when the whistle blows, some players slow/down stop. So, even if you review the play, it's not fair to grant one team recovery of the ball when they recovered it after the whistle blew.

But this rule change means that if you are 100% sure the whistle didn't affect a recovery, it's reviewable. This is good.

Imagine that a QB gets clobbered and coughs up the ball, and a defensive lineman snatches it out of midair on the bounce and starts running downfield, and then the ref blows the whistle saying "incomplete pass". While the guy can't be given the return yardage, the defense should be able to take possession at the spot of the recovery since the DL was already running downfield with the ball when the whistle stopped the play.



the way I'm seeing this (partly from an article from yesterday's TW) is that the refs could nullify the blown whistle and retroactively reward the ball to a player/team after reviewing it and determining the player had "immediately" gone after it....


if so, that's gonna cause a big problem -- way too subjective

BoulderSooner79
7/30/2009, 07:16 PM
the way I'm seeing this (partly from an article from yesterday's TW) is that the refs could nullify the blown whistle and retroactively reward the ball to a player/team after reviewing it and determining the player had "immediately" gone after it....


if so, that's gonna cause a big problem -- way too subjective

I fear this as well. The reason the rules have been so strict about the whistle is that if some players keep playing while other let up, it increases risk of injury. It also makes it harder for the refs to control the game. Now you could have a case where coaches get all over players for *not* continuing to play after the whistle until they know for sure there is no free ball. Have to see how this one pans out.

RedstickSooner
7/30/2009, 08:21 PM
incredibly confusing and will create a storm the first time it happens and changes the course of a game -- thats what happens when you open pandora's replay box

I half agree with you -- ruling from replay whether a forward pass was a forward pass or a fumble is too much of a judgment call, usually.

But ruling whether a pass was a lateral, assuming you've got decent camera angles, can be done in the booth pretty well. And on the field, they seem to get this one wrong an alarming amount of time. The only reason it's not a bigger problem is that it's done so seldom. Folks just don't toss a lot of laterals these days.

Also, as to penalizing players for cheap shots and late hits after the game, this seems like a great idea to me. If it's a cheap shot, it's a cheap shot. Conferences should be able to make examples of those kinds of kids. Hell, I still remember not that long ago when they had the ghey halo rule, and the Fresno State coaching staff did the math to figure out that it was *always* worth it to take the penalty and clean the return specialist's clock, rather than allow him to return it any.

Frankly, I'm surprised more teams haven't done the same math (it's still true -- a fifteen yard penalty is usually a pretty mild slap on the wrist when punt returns tend to average that much, and a good hit means there's a great chance he'll drop it next time). Only downside here is it means misconduct in one game spills over to influence the outcome of the next game. Dunno how we could fix that, but I think having some kinda penalty to dissuade nonsense like that would be a nice improvement.

sooner59
7/30/2009, 10:58 PM
Why do I have the feeling that one or two of these new rules will cause me to scream and throw things at least once this season?

BoulderSooner79
7/30/2009, 11:22 PM
Why do I have the feeling that one or two of these new rules will cause me to scream and throw things at least once this season?

Because you tend to scream and throw things?

Octavian
7/31/2009, 02:13 AM
I half agree with you -- ruling from replay whether a forward pass was a forward pass or a fumble is too much of a judgment call, usually.

But ruling whether a pass was a lateral, assuming you've got decent camera angles, can be done in the booth pretty well. And on the field, they seem to get this one wrong an alarming amount of time. The only reason it's not a bigger problem is that it's done so seldom. Folks just don't toss a lot of laterals these days.



I agree with all of that but it seems as if they are saying they will now be able to reverse a lateral/fumble/incomplete ruling from the booth *after* the whistle has been blown and the play been called dead.



Ref: Yeah I screwed up that call...and then blew the whistle.


Reviewer: Well, Team X clearly recovered.


Ref: Yes, but did Team X clearly recover immediately after I screwed up the call or was it a little later?


Reviewer: Well....hmmmmmm........Hard to tell.....I've looked at it in slow-mo for the last 10 minutes and I'm still not really sure. What does "immediately" really mean after all? I mean, the guy was still moving. Who am I to say he wasn't still going after it? How should I know what he was thinking at the time? What is the meaning of the universe? Ahh...screw it. Team X gets the ball.


Ref: After further review, Team X recovered the ball even though I screwed the call and blew the play dead....someone please send the stadium's chaplain to the review booth so he can conduct the remainder of the discussion on existentialism.

Octavian
7/31/2009, 02:15 AM
hopefully I read that TW article incorrectly....

Desert Sapper
7/31/2009, 03:25 AM
We could always go back to no instant replay. It only ever really mattered about 10 times a season any damn way. And it's not like replay helped us out with the oregon jobbing any ****ing way. Replay is garbage.

sooner59
7/31/2009, 11:53 PM
Why do I have the feeling that one or two of these new rules will cause me to scream and throw things at least once this season?

Only during OU football games...:D

During OUr games, I tend to live and die with every play. Before and after the game i'm laid back. And in the off-season, I am even more chill. But i'm very high strung during OUr games.

When we get a raw deal on shady rules and even more shady calls, I tend to react harshly.:hot:

Frozen Sooner
8/1/2009, 12:56 AM
I thought this was already the case. If the clock runs out during a play, the half is over, unless the offense accepts a penalty on the defense. At least that was my understanding.

Your understanding is incorrect. A period cannot end on an accepted live-ball penalty. Well, except for this one instance now.

GottaHavePride
8/1/2009, 12:00 PM
I like the flagrant foul rule. It's just saying that IF a player commits a foul so blatant that it should have warranted ejection from the game, but the ref doesn't penalize him for it, then the conference office can suspend him for future games. OR if the player's actions warrant more of a reaction than just ejection from the game happening right then, they can impose further penalties.

JLEW1818
8/1/2009, 12:01 PM
sounds good to me

GottaHavePride
8/1/2009, 12:11 PM
I mean really, any player pulling something that would put that rule change into effect is probably going to be punished tougher by his head coach than anything the conference office would do, anyway.

Frozen Sooner
8/1/2009, 12:13 PM
You realize that Bill Synder is back coaching again, right?

JLEW1818
8/1/2009, 12:18 PM
he's gonna have a hard time this season