Coburn on armadillos, marshmallows and liberty

[badger]

I swear, you cannot make this stuff up.

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=335&articleid=20090724_12_0_WASHIN808994)


"Pretty soon, that armadillo fellow. He's in my cage. I got him. And the reason I got him is he kept thinking he could get something for nothing. He kept thinking, 'Man, that's a sweet marshmallow.' ''

[soonerscuba]

At least he didn't claim there weren't divorced or homosexual armadillos in his yard.

[picasso]

You can't get on the teat if you're not a member of the litter.

[mdklatt]

Republican definition of "liberty": freedom from paying taxes

Freedom from warrantless wiretapping, the government telling you who you can marry, and the possibility of getting erroneously executed? Not so much.

[SoonerBorn68]

that armadillo fellow. He's in my cage. I got him.

Scott?

[picasso]

Republican definition of "liberty": freedom from paying taxes

Freedom from warrantless wiretapping, the government telling you who you can marry, and the possibility of getting erroneously executed? Not so much.

Nice. Freedom from excessive taxes is more like it. Try reading into how small business works.

And we can play this game all day because big brother Obama wants it all.

[JohnnyMack]

Neither side is very good at pointing out the hypocrisy of its platform.

[SoonerBorn68]

What I can figure out is how Coburn caught Scott. Howzit's been trying for a rilly rilly rilly long time now.

[adoniijahsooner]

Politics aside, Coburn would benefit from Obama's speech writers. Really, the GOP wants to be taken seriously?

[mdklatt]

Freedom from excessive taxes is more like it.

I have never, ever heard a Republitarian quantify exactly what level of taxation doesn't qualify as excessive.

[mdklatt]

Politics aside, Coburn would benefit from Obama's speech writers. Really, the GOP wants to be taken seriously?

That's just part of Coburn's folksy homespun charm.

[BornandBred]

I have never, ever heard a Republitarian quantify exactly what level of taxation doesn't qualify as excessive.

Consumption tax, say 8%. Done.

[mdklatt]

Consumption tax, say 8%. Done.

Hooray for regression!

[BornandBred]

Progress off the edge of a cliff all you want. These social programs and spending are only going to speed the fall.

[Curly Bill]

The bleeding hearts don't care if we go off the edge of a cliff...


....as long as we all do it together. ;)

[mdklatt]

Progress off the edge of a cliff all you want. These social programs and spending are only going to speed the fall.

Regression as in regressive taxes. A consumption tax is extremely regressive. Do you think it's a fair for poor people to pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes?

[BornandBred]

No, but clearly you think it's fair for rich people.

[Curly Bill]

Regression as in regressive taxes. A consumption tax is extremely regressive. Do you think it's a fair for poor people to pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes?

They pay a higher percentage of their income for food and things too, should we charge them lower prices?

[mdklatt]

They pay a higher percentage of their income for food and things too, should we charge them lower prices?

Wow, that's like not the same thing at all.

[Curly Bill]

but...but...but...it's regressive that poor people have to pay the same prices as everyone else.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Wow, that's like not the same thing at all.how you figger?

[mdklatt]

but...but...but...it's regressive that poor people have to pay the same prices as everyone else.

Do you know why everybody pays the same price for a Happy Meal? Because a Happy Meal is exactly the same no matter who you are. What's fair is paying for what you get. Prove to me--with numbers and math and ****--that somebody's benefit from government services is exactly proportional to their income or to how much money they spend. People are confusing fair with arbitrary. A flat tax is arbitrary.

[badger]

:mad: this was supposed to be a thread about MARSHMALLOWS! :mad:

:P

[BornandBred]

how you figger?

It's because the rich are "better suited to carry the burden of higher expenses". It's the same old socialist line. And those in charge are the ones that get to determine who's best suited for what. So, things start being based on NEED instead of ABILITY.

[Curly Bill]

Do you know why everybody pays the same price for a Happy Meal? Because a Happy Meal is exactly the same no matter who you are. What's fair is paying for what you get. Prove to me--with numbers and math and ****--that somebody's benefit from government services is exactly proportional to their income or to how much money they spend. People are confusing fair with arbitrary. A flat tax is arbitrary.

..but I don't know any socialist math. I doubt you understand any other kind. ;)

[BornandBred]

:mad: this was supposed to be a thread about MARSHMALLOWS! :mad:

:P

I hate it when they catch on fire. They should be an nice even brown, not charred.

[Curly Bill]

:mad: this was supposed to be a thread about MARSHMALLOWS! :mad:

:P

Ok, here ya go: Should the poor have to pay the same price for marshmallows, or should they get them cheaper than a rich person? :D

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I thought somebody had been filming through peep hole again and Coburn was a freak

[Turd_Ferguson]

I hate it when they catch on fire. They should be an nice even brown, not charred.Your kill'n me small's!

[JohnnyMack]

Do you know why everybody pays the same price for a Happy Meal? Because a Happy Meal is exactly the same no matter who you are. What's fair is paying for what you get. Prove to me--with numbers and math and ****--that somebody's benefit from government services is exactly proportional to their income or to how much money they spend. People are confusing fair with arbitrary. A flat tax is arbitrary.

Why not instead encourage personal responsibility instead of benefitting from Govt services?

[BornandBred]

Why not instead encourage personal responsibility instead of benefitting from Govt services?

Easy. Because benefitting from Government services becomes reliance. Reliance gives the Government power. The Government is in the business of increasing Government.

[badger]

I hate it when they catch on fire. They should be an nice even brown, not charred.

I totally agree... I think Dr. Coburn would agree that nice, even brown, NOT CHARRED marshmallows are the best type for catching armadillos. I mean, if you want to try to trap a 'dillo with a black marshmallow, you might as well throw a lump of coal in his Christmas stocking!

[soonerscuba]

Why not instead encourage personal responsibility instead of benefitting from Govt services?Define gov't services. The thing about that Happy Meal is that it regulated by gov't services to be safe (good), the bun, cheese, fries, and cattle feed are paid by market manipulation of corn (good/bad, who the hell knows) which keep it's price fairly consistant. I wish I could afford to be off the grid.

[badger]

This thread is also about AMADILLOS.

My mom thinks they are cute, but it seems like wherever we go, I never see a live one, only a dead one. The exception to this rule is every gift shop in San Antonio, because armadillos are apparently the San Antonio mascot or something.

Does this mean that you can trap and lure San Antonioans with marshmallows too? Must try that trick on NP sometime :D

[JohnnyMack]

Define gov't services. The thing about that Happy Meal is that it regulated by gov't services to be safe (good), the bun, cheese, fries, and cattle feed are paid by market manipulation of corn (good/bad, who the hell knows) which keep it's price fairly consistant. I wish I could afford to be off the grid.

Specifically the notion that someone should pay taxes so someone else can have healthcare. I cannot in any way understand why someone with money should pay for someone else's healthcare.

[BornandBred]

Specifically the notion that someone should pay taxes so someone else can have healthcare. I cannot in any way understand why someone with money should pay for someone else's healthcare.

I can: if they employ them. That's about it.

[soonerscuba]

Specifically the notion that someone should pay taxes so someone else can have healthcare. I cannot in any way understand why someone with money should pay for someone else's healthcare.This sentiment is exactly why I cannot get behind gov't sponsered healthcare, you are certainly not alone in this assessment. I personally believe that the healthy have a moral obligation to care for the sick, but I also realize there are many who do not share this view, and I would rather not have a gov't program than a half-assed one the second a Republican admin comes in.

Also, I tried to make a armadillo/Inhofe reference. I did my part.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

The problem is that people that get all this free stuff live until they are 112 because they never have to deal with the stress of working!! Whereas, hard working people die at 57 of heart failure!

[OklahomaTuba]

and I would rather not have a gov't program than a half-assed one the second a Republican admin comes in.Looks like we will probably get both in 2012.

[OklahomaTuba]

I swear, you cannot make this stuff up.

Link (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=335&articleid=20090724_12_0_WASHIN808994)
Its almost as good as Obama telling a lady on TV that her 100 year old mom doesn't need a heart operation to save her life, just a pain pill.

Or that gubment take over of an industry actually increases competition and reduces cost.

On national TV no less.