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CK Sooner
7/6/2009, 09:07 PM
MOSCOW -- A deal between the United States and Russia to increase assistance and training in Afghanistan is being hailed by Obama administration officials as "historic" and demonstrative of two nations no longer fighting a Cold War.

A joint statement issued Monday before a press conference in Moscow with President Obama and Russian President Dmitri Medvedev pledges a commitment to the nation of Afghanistan as it struggles to overcome various political and social challenges.

"We reaffirm our commitment to the goals of the common fight against the threats of terrorism, armed extremism, and illegal drug trafficking in Afghanistan," the statement reads. "We shall continue and develop our cooperation in the interest of enhancing the capabilities of the government of Afghanistan to accomplish key socioeconomic objectives, to raise living standards, and to ensure the security of its people."

The statement was a bit lost in the news in a series of agreements, including on the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, and senior administration officials chided reporters for focusing on a Cold War type of relationship between the two nations.

"This is not the Cold War. This is not just a relationship about competition, confrontation and the things we disagree about," said Michael McFaul, a senior adviser on Russia. "This discussion makes me feel a little bit like some of us want to fight what is not a real war. It is not real. The threat that we pose to Russia from our missile defense systems is not real. The president couldn't have been more clear about that."

McFaul highlighted the Russians allowing 4,500 flights of American soldiers and equipment going through Russia, a country he admitted, used to be an adversary. "We're talking about 4,500 flights of American soldiers and equipment going through what used to be our enemy. And they're paying for it. This is something that's very concrete. This is a real war we're fighting."

The United States' rough calculation is that the flights will save around $133 millions in navigation fees, a cost the Russians will now pick up.

One irony that went unmentioned in the announcement was the U.S. role in helping defeat Russia in Afghanistan in the 1980s in what was seen as one of the last Cold War stands before communism fell in the Soviet Union.

The White House wanted to highlight progress on various efforts the two presidents reached Monday, saying there was more than one or two signing statements about missile defense and START.

"The eight or nine things that we did agree upon and the multi-dimensional relationship that we're trying to put together in a very short period of time is what we really talked about, not this part where we have so much contention," McFaul said.

picasso
7/6/2009, 09:13 PM
well hell, we're fighting one of the ex Gitmo prisoners. way to go?

MrJimBeam
7/7/2009, 05:02 AM
And we promise no defensive missiles for eastern europe?

landrun
7/7/2009, 05:23 PM
And we promise no defensive missiles for eastern europe?

No doubt about it.... plus we're a socialist country now too! :D

OklahomaTuba
7/8/2009, 09:02 AM
So we just threw Poland, Ukraine, Georgia & Israel under the bus??? Awesome!!!

The Remnant
7/8/2009, 10:11 AM
Add Honduras as well.

OklahomaTuba
7/8/2009, 10:37 AM
Add Honduras as well.
Well, at least Hamas, The Mullahs, Putin, Chavez, Castro and the rest of the worlds tyrants are happy.

Neville would be so proud.

JohnnyMack
7/8/2009, 10:41 AM
I predict that before the end of '09 Israel launches a strike against Iran.

OklahomaTuba
7/8/2009, 10:46 AM
I predict that before the end of '09 Israel launches a strike against Iran.
Dear Lord I hope so. According to Sheriff Joe, its a go, and even the KOSA seems in on this one.

Hopefully it gets done before Iran buys that super slick air defense system from Putin.

CK Sooner
7/8/2009, 03:40 PM
I predict that before the end of '09 Israel launches a strike against Iran.

And I hope we stay completely out of it.

OklahomaTuba
7/8/2009, 03:42 PM
And I hope we stay completely out of it.
Don't worry, Obama has his apology speech all ready loaded on the teleprompter.

Jacie
7/8/2009, 03:56 PM
The Russians have as much to fear from radical islam as we do. Some of the former U.S.S.R. republics are either on the verge of civil war fueled by religious extremism or share borders with terrorist havens such as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan. They know firsthand what a dead-rodent-mating-ritual Afghanistan is so it is no surprise they are willing to facilitate U.S. efforts to confront the Taliban.

In related news, here is one I predicted a long time ago, what will happen when China has to deal with islam.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/07/08/china.uyghurs.florcruz/index.html

This is just the beginning of it for them. Wait'll they get their first suicide bombing. That'll give their army something to do besides march through Beijing. Perhaps it may give them pause before dealing more weapons to Iran . . .

The Remnant
7/8/2009, 07:04 PM
If Obama has his way, add Zelaya (exiled Honduran president) to the list of happy tyrants.