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JohnnyMack
7/1/2009, 10:07 PM
Glenn Beck wrote a new book called Common Sense.

He's a Mormon.

picasso
7/1/2009, 10:21 PM
so's the doosh flogger in my avvie. and Beck actually has a successful radio program, unlike doosh flogger in said avvie.

picasso
7/1/2009, 10:22 PM
Glenn Beck wrote a new book called Common Sense.

He's a Mormon.

ah my bad, I thought you said moron.

:D

yermom
7/1/2009, 10:23 PM
does the doosh flogger in your avvie think we'd be better off if we get attacked by terrorists again?

StoopTroup
7/1/2009, 10:23 PM
huh?

:D

King Crimson
7/1/2009, 10:33 PM
i'll be a lot more impressed with people who actually make arguments than appeal to some ambiguous "catch-all" phrase like "common sense".

to me, it just means can't think for yourself and don't have the battery to make a convincing argument but prefer to refer a set of platitudes having been provided for you in the most banal terms.

StoopTroup
7/1/2009, 10:36 PM
banal sounds nasty.

soonerscuba
7/1/2009, 10:53 PM
The fact that Beck took the title Common Sense is far, far more ironic if you are even remotely aware of Paine's actual views than that of being a Mormon. I would argue that Paine is probably the most underrated political theorist of the early Americans. He advocated abolition, free education, minimum wage and progressive taxes... in the 18th ****ing century. He was a prophet more than a pamphleteer and was thanked by this nation by 6 people at his funeral, Glenn Beck should be thrown in the stocks for even beginning to compare himself to Thomas Paine.

King Crimson
7/1/2009, 11:00 PM
The fact that Beck took the title Common Sense is far, far more ironic if you are even remotely aware of Paine's actual views than that of being a Mormon. I would argue that Paine is probably the most underrated political theorist of the early Americans. He advocated abolition, free education, minimum wage and progressive taxes... in the 18th ****ing century. He was a prophet more than a pamphleteer and was thanked by this nation by 6 people at his funeral, Glenn Beck should be thrown in the stocks for even beginning to compare himself to Thomas Paine.

this is exactly what i mean. "common sense" today just means toeing the line as some kind of mindless adherence to whatever is counter-lib as scapegoat. calling the interests of small business owners as those of major corporations in terms of "entrepreneur".

picasso
7/1/2009, 11:47 PM
does the doosh flogger in your avvie think we'd be better off if we get attacked by terrorists again?

never heard the Mormon guy say that. I listen to him some when I'm on the road.
Believe it or not, Beck rags on the dooshbag Republicans too. yeah I know, crazy.

Now Al Franken is in office. That is pure comedy.

yermom
7/1/2009, 11:56 PM
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i challenge anyone to show me a clip from CNN/MSNBC of one of their people as retarded as this

picasso
7/2/2009, 12:07 AM
I never heard him say we'd be better off if that happened. His mantra has always been that we need a wake-up call and it's primarily in the fiscal department. You see ole Beck here is one of those glass is half empty types who doesn't want to see another depression.
And you guys laughing him off should know that Beck has been predicting the financial mess we're in for a few years now. Yeah, under ole Bushie's watch even.

And no challenge needed dude, there's plenty of reTards to go around. Look at my avvie.

OklaPony
7/2/2009, 08:16 AM
I'm don't see how anyone can extrapolate Beck as agreeing with "we need another attack" from that clip.

yermom
7/2/2009, 08:28 AM
What did he mean by the comment at the end?

Echoes
7/2/2009, 09:58 AM
The fact that Beck took the title Common Sense is far, far more ironic if you are even remotely aware of Paine's actual views than that of being a Mormon. I would argue that Paine is probably the most underrated political theorist of the early Americans. He advocated abolition, free education, minimum wage and progressive taxes... in the 18th ****ing century. He was a prophet more than a pamphleteer and was thanked by this nation by 6 people at his funeral, Glenn Beck should be thrown in the stocks for even beginning to compare himself to Thomas Paine.

I completely agree.

I was flippin through the channels the other night (Believe me when I tell you I don't watch GB) and he was on. I kid you not, him and some nutjob was on tv advocating and hoping for another attack on United States soil. They literally said, "The only thing we can do now is just pray that Bin Laden lays another devestating attack on our soil so that our country will finally wake up."

The guy's name escapes me and he is apparently a nutcase so I could care less... but really? Wishing that thousands, perhaps 10's of thousands of innocent Americans would die just so the liberals have something to deal with? I mean, men women and children? It just blew my mind. The sad thing was that Beck was agreeing the whole time and chiming in as well.

Doesn't seem very much like common sense to me.

Echoes
7/2/2009, 09:59 AM
I can't see the clip posted above to see if that's the one I was talking about (at work). But honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different one... This one made it very clear that both GB and his guest were asking for an attack on American soil.. There was no room open for interpretation.

Boomer Mooner
7/2/2009, 10:36 AM
What did he mean by the comment at the end?

I think Beck was saying if he was Osama the last thing he would do is attack because that would wake this country up and we would not stay as complacent as Beck perceives we are. At least that's what I took it to mean.

I'm a pretty conservative guy and I have a hard time listening to Beck too. He is right on about a lot of things, but way over the top on a lot more. Makes it too easy to dismiss him as a nutjob, as well as all conservatives by association.

StoopTroup
7/2/2009, 10:43 AM
UBL...if alive has got to be pretty content knowing how much he screwed with the United States right after the election of a Texan to the White House. He made Bush look bad. Yes we responded....but we didn't catch UBL.

Till that happens or we get close...the guy will probably just keep trying to cook up another big one. I'm betting he won't waste his time on anything smaller than a WTC incident.

Boomer Mooner
7/2/2009, 10:57 AM
I can't see the clip posted above to see if that's the one I was talking about (at work). But honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was a different one... This one made it very clear that both GB and his guest were asking for an attack on American soil.. There was no room open for interpretation.

I think this probably is the clip you are talking about. The wording is very close to what you quoted, but it definitely leaves a lot more room for interpretation than you imply.

He isn't wishing an attack on America at all. The guest says he believes an OBL attack is what it would take to make this administration take terrorist threats seriously. Something so horrible that it would cause a grass roots level uproar to force this admin to address it with the same seriousness the previous admin did. He even talks about how absurd a situation it is. Nowhere does anybody "Pray" for an attack on American soil. Sheesh.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 03:00 PM
What did he mean by the comment at the end?Wow, now that is a stretch!!!

Scott D
7/2/2009, 03:53 PM
I found him to be crass when on his TV show he was eating cookie dough out of the package, live, on the air. Even Ann Coulter was disgusted...and I don't mean just because Glenn has a penis.

soonerhubs
7/2/2009, 04:05 PM
Glenn Beck wrote a new book called Common Sense.

He's a Mormon.

Care to expound on this thesis? :pop:

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:07 PM
In JM's black and white world, Mormon=Christian=Bad and must be sent to the ovens & re-education camps.

Sooner_Havok
7/2/2009, 04:29 PM
In JM's black and white world, Mormon=Christian=Bad and must be sent to the ovens & re-education camps.

Hell I thought Protestants treated Mormons the same way as Catholics. As non-Christians.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 04:32 PM
Care to expound on this thesis? :pop:

He wrote a book called Common Sense.

He's a subscriber to organized religion.

I found that ironic.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 04:33 PM
In JM's black and white world, Mormon=Christian=Bad and must be sent to the ovens & re-education camps.

Tuba, stop being obtuse. I don't want people who subscribe to mythology dead, I want them to evolve.

Your amateurish vitriol is so played out.

King Crimson
7/2/2009, 04:34 PM
In JM's black and white world, Mormon=Christian=Bad and must be sent to the ovens & re-education camps.

and the expert on black-white worlds speaks. gotta scapegoat the libs or make personal issues about central america and the petro economy into a fraud of national interest.

someday, i hope you clowns realize that right-wing nationalism is contrary to the "free markets" you claim to love.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:35 PM
Hell I thought Protestants treated Mormons the same way as Catholics. As non-Christians.I think many consider them to be in apostasy of the global church, but no one I knows consider them to be non-Christians.

And most are damn fine people BTW.

Scott D
7/2/2009, 04:35 PM
fruads of national interest are the best kind.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:36 PM
Tuba, stop being obtuse. I don't want people who subscribe to mythology dead, I want them to evolve.
Himmler basically said the same thing about the Jews.

No, really, he did.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 04:37 PM
Well then I must be a Nazi.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:37 PM
someday, i hope you clowns realize that right-wing nationalism is contrary to the "free markets" you claim to love.
So, hows that Hope and Change working out for you KC? Still got a job???

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:38 PM
Well then I must be a Nazi.Well, its not for me to judge, just sayin..

King Crimson
7/2/2009, 04:39 PM
fruads of national interest are the best kind.

a fruad like that cannot be tolerated.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:40 PM
Its the CIA's fault. They lied to me.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 04:40 PM
Himmler basically said the same thing about the Jews.

No, really, he did.

And Himmler didn't want the Jews to evolve, he didn't think that was possible. They were unpure and the only way to spread the new pure Aryan race was without the Jews around to interfere. So it's the same thing. Only not at all.

Sooner_Havok
7/2/2009, 04:41 PM
I think many consider them to be in apostasy of the global church, but no one I knows consider them to be non-Christians.

And most are damn fine people BTW.

Hell, when people would find out I was Catholic they always looked at me funny, like I was no longer welcome in their homes. After a while, you just learn to say Christian, and if they probed deeper I would say my mom was Baptist.

Most Protestants and Evangelicals I have ever met have looked at Catholics as un-Christians. Hell, had one tell me I was going to hell once because i was not "saved" and "born again." I told them my religion said they were going to hell for their twisted interpretation of God's word, and they said that my religion was wrong, and I was dumb for being a Catholic.

That was about the time I stopped believing in all that stuff all together come to think of it.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:43 PM
And Himmler didn't want the Jews to evolve, he didn't think that was possible.Well, at least we know there is some difference then. ;)

King Crimson
7/2/2009, 04:45 PM
So, hows that Hope and Change working out for you KC? Still got a job???

yes, and i don't see what that has to do with anything. If John McCain or some re-incarnation of Reagan was prez you see things different how? we'd all be "free" and living the maximum of Civil Liberties?

to me, you just whine like a bitch after 8 years of Bush. you got used to thinking like "the majority" and now you can't handle the loss....so much so that you think it's clever to summon up all the "libertarian" language when just a few years ago you wanted dissenters put in camps.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:46 PM
Most Protestants and Evangelicals I have ever met have looked at Catholics as un-Christians.I think that is a super small minority that must believe that. I don't know any that believe that, and I have both in my family.

But out of several Billion Christians on this planet, i'm sure its probably true of a few.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 04:52 PM
yes, and i don't see what that has to do with anything. If John McCain or some re-incarnation of Reagan was prez you see things different how?
Different in, we wouldn't be talking about taxing the shiat out of everybody to "change the weather" or nationalizing our auto, health, financial, etc industries.

I am also very sure Zombie Reagan or McCorpse wouldn't have quadrupled the national debt in 6 months.

In fact, they might have even CUT taxes putting us on a course for recovery, and not 10%+ funemployment and bankruptcy.

Guess my Hope and Change comment pissed you off huh??? ;)

soonerscuba
7/2/2009, 04:52 PM
Goodwin's Law: live it, learn it, love it.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 04:58 PM
Different in, we wouldn't be talking about taxing the shiat out of everybody to "change the weather" or nationalizing our auto, health, financial, etc industires.

I am also very sure Zombie Reagan or McCorpse wouldn't have quadrupled the national debt in 6 months.

In fact, they might have even CUT taxes putting us on a course for recovery, and not 10%+ funemployment and bankruptcy.

Guess my Hope and Change comment pissed you off huh??? ;)

Serious question here. Because I'm really not certain that I think Obama's plan is completely necessary or even the right way to proceed. Do you think that had McCain won that the economy would be in better shape than it is today? It seems to me that you think the actions of an elected leader (one you vehemently oppose) transcend an entire market that was in shambles before it was ever decided who would win the election. I for one don't have a good feel for exactly where this economy would be had McCain won, but I'm of the opinion that this recession is bigger than one man.

Please answer like a human being and not a member of a political party.

King Crimson
7/2/2009, 05:04 PM
Guess my Hope and Change comment pissed you off huh??? ;)

don't flatter yourself in the most banal sort of ways. i always vote 3rd party.

soonerhubs
7/2/2009, 05:05 PM
He wrote a book called Common Sense.

He's a subscriber to organized religion.

I found that ironic.

Although I disagree with your position. I will do so respectfully. Sorry. I didn't mean to attract the ire of other folks towards you.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 05:08 PM
Serious question here. Because I'm really not certain that I think Obama's plan is completely necessary or even the right way to proceed. Do you think that had McCain won that the economy would be in better shape than it is today?

There is no way to know that. I think it would be, but I am biased.

I don't think we would be talking about increasing taxes, etc or burning up the printing presses like we are now. I think that is going to have a profound effect on businesses & consumption in a negative way for years to come.

OklahomaTuba
7/2/2009, 05:10 PM
don't flatter yourself in the most banal sort of ways. i always vote 3rd party.
Ahh, a McKinney Man. Awesome!

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

soonerhubs
7/2/2009, 05:12 PM
Banal...
I never knew the word until studying for the GRE.

A few others: Sacrosanct, cloying, abase, plebian, and panoply.

JohnnyMack
7/2/2009, 05:19 PM
There is no way to know that. I think it would be, but I am biased.

I don't think we would be talking about increasing taxes, etc or burning up the printing presses like we are now. I think that is going to have a profound effect on businesses & consumption in a negative way for years to come.

Do you think the Iraq war, TARP 1 or the prescription drug plan had ANYTHING to do with our impending debt?

King Crimson
7/2/2009, 05:23 PM
Ahh, a McKinney Man. Awesome!

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

just because you are dumb and automatic politics doesn't mean the rest of us are.

tommieharris91
7/2/2009, 05:35 PM
Different in, we wouldn't be talking about taxing the shiat out of everybody to "change the weather" or nationalizing our auto, health, financial, etc industries.

I am also very sure Zombie Reagan or McCorpse wouldn't have quadrupled the national debt in 6 months.

In fact, they might have even CUT taxes putting us on a course for recovery, and not 10%+ funemployment and bankruptcy.

Guess my Hope and Change comment pissed you off huh??? ;)

Reagan started the whole Gubmint in Debt thing.

KC//CRIMSON
7/2/2009, 11:57 PM
Ahh, a McKinney Man. Awesome!

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/cynthia_mckinney.jpg

Somewhere, Glenn Beck just grew a boner then immediately started crying and called it a socialist.