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SteelClip49
6/24/2009, 02:24 PM
from each major conference in the entire history.....

PACIFIC 10
1. John McKay (4 NC)
2. Pete Carroll (2 NC)
3. Howard Jones (3 NC)
4. Don James (1 NC)
5. John Robinson (1 NC)

BIG TEN
1. Woody Hayes (3 NC)
2. Bo Schembechler
3. Fielding Yost
4. Lloyd Carr (1 NC)
5. Bernie Bierman (5 NC) also coached Wilkinson to 3 national titles

ACC
1. Bobby Bowden (2 NC)
2. Danny Ford (1 NC)
3. Bobby Ross (1 NC)
4. Jim Tatum (1 NC)
5. Frank Beamer

BIG EAST
1. Frank Beamer
2. Don Nehlen
3. Dennis Erickson (1 NC while in BE)
4. Paul Pasqualoni
5. Butch Davis


SWC/BIG 8
1. Bud Wilkinson (3 NC)
2. Barry Switzer (3 NC)
3. Tom Osborne (3 NC)
4. Darrell Royal (3 NC)
5. Bob Devaney (2 NC)

SEC
1. Bear Bryant (6 NC)
2. Robert Neyland (1 NC)
3. Steve Spurrier (1 NC)
4. Ralph Jordan (1 NC)
5. John Vaught (2 undefeated seasons)

INDEPENDENTS
1. Rockne
2. Leahy
3. Paterno
4. Blaik
5. Parseghian

NormanPride
6/24/2009, 02:38 PM
It's hard to win MNCs.

Octavian
6/24/2009, 02:43 PM
BIG EAST
1. Frank Beamer
2. Don Nehlen
3. Dennis Erickson (1 NC while in BE)
4. Paul Pasqualoni
5. Butch Davis


Erickson won 2 NCs at Miami ('89, '91)


Nevertheless, I'd rank Jimmy Johnson as #1 on the Big East list -- even though he only won 1 NC. He transformed Miami from Miami into the Vaderesque "U."


Not sure if that was an oversight or what...but there's no way Butch Davis or Pasqualoni should be there w/out Jimmuh. If Beamer wasn't my #1 in Big East history...Johnson would be.

Octavian
6/24/2009, 02:46 PM
ahh...n/m. I see how you've structured it...only starts to count once Miami entered the Big East conference and started BE play.


makes sense.


but then wouldn't all of Miami's coaches have to fall into the ACC category if the Big 8/SWC schools are grouped together? In any event, I'd probably rank JJ as the #1 coach wherever Miami is placed.

the_edge
6/24/2009, 08:01 PM
BIG TEN
1. Woody Hayes (3 NC)
2. Bo Schembechler (0 NC)
3. Fielding Yost
4. Lloyd Carr (1 NC)
5. Bernie Bierman (5 NC) also coached Wilkinson to 3 national titles

That illustrates just how overrated Meatchicken is as a program.

JLEW1818
6/24/2009, 08:03 PM
why is Jim not in the top 5? idc if its recent success or not.

Lott's Bandana
6/25/2009, 01:12 AM
Bear Bryant - 6

John McKay - 4

Pete Carroll - 2

Hell, if that's the case, let's give Mack another one*

rainiersooner
6/25/2009, 01:26 AM
Bear Bryant - 6

John McKay - 4

Pete Carroll - 2

Hell, if that's the case, let's give *Mack* another one*

Yeah, let's be clear - these are all "mythical" national championships, which is why Alabama has won them all....

TheUnnamedSooner
6/25/2009, 10:25 AM
Since it is conference, shouldn't it be based off of conference championships?

BillyBall
6/25/2009, 10:29 AM
It's interesting how Butch Davis is a head of Coker who won a NC and had a better winning percentage than Davis. Granted the program hit the fan under Coker, but if this is purely stat driven than it's kind of interesting.

boomermagic
6/25/2009, 10:33 AM
Erickson won 2 NCs at Miami ('89, '91)


Nevertheless, I'd rank Jimmy Johnson as #1 on the Big East list -- even though he only won 1 NC. He transformed Miami from Miami into the Vaderesque "U."


Not sure if that was an oversight or what...but there's no way Butch Davis or Pasqualoni should be there w/out Jimmuh. If Beamer wasn't my #1 in Big East history...Johnson would be.

Actually Jimmy took over a Miami program that Howard{The ole drunk Snelly}

Built and won a NC before he left.. Jimmy did not build the program he was just lucky enough to get the job where the work had already been done for him.. JJ is overrated as a coach..

Widescreen
6/25/2009, 11:05 AM
Having Woody Hayes over Schembechler is retarded. If you get fired for punching an opposing player, that should drop you at least 1 spot no matter how many MNC's you've won.

Octavian
6/25/2009, 02:30 PM
Actually Jimmy took over a Miami program that Howard{The ole drunk Snelly}

Built and won a NC before he left.. Jimmy did not build the program he was just lucky enough to get the job where the work had already been done for him.. JJ is overrated as a coach..


Johnson did not just inherit a juggernaut from Howie.


That '83 NC team was lightyears behind in terms of talent level and mentality than the Miami monster that Johnson created after Schnelly jumped to the USFL. Howard's '83 team was a feisty bunch with a great QB (Kosar) that somehow beat Osborne's triplets in the '83 Championship Game. But lookl at the tapes -- that team didn't operate the same schemes or with the same talent level as the JJ's Miami teams in the mid-late '80s...not even close.


In Johnson's first year at Miami, they lost 4 games (the Flutie Hail Mary included). But they weren't stockpiled with NFL talent at every position -- JJ virtually monopolized recruiting in South FLA and built a machine. In '85, they were unranked and shocked a Top 5 ranked Switzer team in Norman. They cleaned our clocks the next year in Coral Gables before doing so again in the '87 NCG. 33-3...we know that story.


But the program JJ built also thrashed Florida State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Nebraska, and just about everyone else they encountered. Only stunning bowl losses to Tennessee and Penn St. (a Duke-UNLV type upset) prevented them from 3-peating in the mid-80s.


The entire "U" mindset was generated during Johnson's tenure. The NFL launching pad, the second-to-none defensive lines, the rotating door of great QBs, the awesome WRs, Speed U, the Thrill Hill dance against *Texas* in the Cotton Bowl -- that entire g-unit culture was spawned with Johnson.


The lucky one who inherited the keys to the Corvette was Erickson. He won 2 championships ('89, '91) in his first 3 seasons with what Jimmy left him. And almost won 2 more ('90, '92) before he left.


And if you wanna check out Johnson's resume before and after Miami -- take a look. He transformed Oklahoma State from a natural cellar dweller into a respectable program before leaving for Miami. Pat took it from there.


And he was responsible for devising the speed-induced anti-Wishbone 4-3 scheme that attacked Switzer's offense where it was most dangerous -- the interior FB lanes and the corners. We know how that ended. And FWIW, as much credit as Switzer gets for switching OU to the Bone in 1970 during mid-season when was our OC, Lacewell will tell you that a young Jimmy deserves just as much credit for transforming the defensive mindset (he coached at OU too ya know...) at the same time.


Throw in a couple Super Bowl rings and I don't know how Johnson can be considered overrated.

Octavian
6/25/2009, 02:37 PM
that said, I don't like the guy any more than any one else does either ;)