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SteelClip49
6/15/2009, 09:38 AM
http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1944947.html

Golden State losing folks as old Dust Bowl beckons
ShareThisBy Phillip Reese
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Published: Sunday, Jun. 14, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 1A

OKLAHOMA CITY – Fleeing the Great Depression and a drought unprecedented in American history, a vast wave of Oklahomans and Texans dubbed "Okies" loaded everything they could onto crowded vehicles during the 1930s and headed west for California. Today, in huge numbers, their grandchildren are moving back.

It doesn't take Loren O'Laughlin much time to come up with a reason why, in between bites of a burger at an Oklahoma City diner. "There aren't really people lined up on the streets here competing for a few scraps," said O'Laughlin, 23, who grew up in Sacramento but recently graduated from Oklahoma Christian University and opted to stay put. "Small businesses thrive here because networking is so easy."

As California housing prices went wild in the middle of this decade, hundreds of thousands of residents scratched their heads and moved to places where homes were still affordable, state and federal statistics show. When prices started falling and unemployment started rising, many continued to leave California for healthier job markets.

The result was five consecutive years when California saw more residents going to other states than coming. Although many stayed closer to home – Nevada, Oregon, Arizona – the mid-South saw a large influx.

From 2004 through 2007, about 275,000 Californians left the Golden State for the old Dust Bowl states of Oklahoma and Texas, twice the number that left those two states for California, recent Internal Revenue Service figures show. In fact, the mid-South gained more residents from California during those four years than either Oregon, Nevada or Arizona. The trend continued into 2008.

As a result, it's easy to find Californians – even former Sacramentans – living and working in Oklahoma City, a capital of the American heartland.

Ask these Okies-in-reverse why they traded the Golden State for the Sooner State – named for settlers who came there sooner than the Homestead Act allowed – and you'll hear a lot of similar themes: easier to find a job; cheaper to buy or rent a home; better place to make a fresh start. Ask them why they stay in Oklahoma and they'll add to that list a deep optimism that it's a place where things are about to take off.

"Oklahoma City is like Sacramento back when the Kings were in the playoffs," said Branddon Jones, 26, who moved about a year ago to get out of Del Paso Heights. "It's growing. You can get a job. It's just crazy."

Two different cities

A lot of that has to do with the downtown core, particularly an area called Bricktown where, on a recent Thursday, former Sacramentan Tim Higgins sat on a restaurant patio, watching water taxis weave through a nearby canal.

Around Higgins was a vast collection of old warehouses that sat abandoned as recently as 15 years ago. That was before the city's residents – though relatively conservative – passed a temporary 1-cent sales tax increase to improve downtown; before the funds from that tax increase built a baseball stadium, an arena (now occupied by an NBA team), a canal and a library; before at least 1,000 new housing units sprang up within walking distance of where Higgins was sitting.

Now those warehouses are warrens of shops and eateries, cozying up to the meandering canal.

"This would be the equivalent of Old Sacramento," said Higgins, 47, "except it's much more happening."

From the restaurant patio, Higgins could see a large crane working. Just to his south, workers toiled on a massive project to move a federal interstate away from downtown to make way for a park.

The bustle is very different from what Higgins, a videographer, witnessed back home before he moved out in October.

"When I left, all construction had stopped throughout California," he said. "Here I see a lot of construction, a lot of new businesses."


Slow and steady

Watching tax revenues gush into California city coffers as housing prices skyrocketed a few years ago, Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett couldn't avoid a twinge of envy. He doesn't feel that way now.

SoonerTroll
6/15/2009, 10:01 AM
Good article. Nice to see other places taking notice of the improvements going on in this area. I work in bricktown and it really is a great place to spend the days.

Harry Beanbag
6/15/2009, 10:12 AM
Oklahoma would be better off if the Californians stayed there.

SanJoaquinSooner
6/15/2009, 11:25 AM
Oklahoma would be better off if the Californians stayed there.

Yes, it will flood the schools, increase health care costs, fill the jails, and drive down wages. Okies should stay in California.

CK Sooner
6/15/2009, 11:30 AM
Yes, it will flood the schools, increase health care costs, fill the jails, and drive down wages. Okies should stay in California.

Bleh

Sooner_Bob
6/15/2009, 12:07 PM
Hard workin' folks are always welcome here IMO.

SanJoaquinSooner
6/15/2009, 12:46 PM
Hard workin' folks are always welcome here IMO.

Thank you, but I'm staying in California.
:)

OU_Sooners75
6/15/2009, 01:00 PM
Thank you, but I'm staying in California.
:)


Why not go back to your motherland of Messico?

sooner ngintunr
6/15/2009, 01:42 PM
Hard workin' folks are always welcome here IMO.

Agreed. Certain kinds growth aren't bad.

Trust me OK is getting the better end of the deal.

Californians aren't coming here to suck off of the system.

Sooner_Havok
6/15/2009, 01:47 PM
When the Okies left Oklahoma and went to California,
the average intelligence of both states went up

Pretty much sums things up :D

LosAngelesSooner
6/15/2009, 02:22 PM
Sacramento is a ****hole. I'd choose OKC over Sacto ANY day.

On another note, I will NEVER complain about people moving OUT of California. We've got enough people as it is, thank you very much, you're welcome to any and all who want to leave. ;)

Harry Beanbag
6/15/2009, 02:42 PM
I lived in the Sacramento area for awhile and it always kind of reminded me of OKC, with a smaller airport.

Chuck Bao
6/15/2009, 02:47 PM
I am amazed that many of the Californians I meet have some distant relative in Oklahoma. My former colleague here in Bangkok was from Oregon and his family before that was from California and he was like German, British and Cherokee via Oklahoma. We were probably cousins are various sides of his family tree.

Lott's Bandana
6/15/2009, 04:44 PM
<=== I've lived the article.

Returned to OK after retiring to Sacramento, and no LAS, it isn't a **** hole...much better than North Tijuana you call home.

I told people all the time that Sac was just like OKC with rivers, and flatter.

The best part about living there is:

Tahoe
Napa
Reno
SF
Shasta
Mendocino
Marin
Monterey
Yosemite

Hard to name a place with a better list of choices for day-trips.

Harry Beanbag
6/15/2009, 07:11 PM
<=== I've lived the article.

Returned to OK after retiring to Sacramento, and no LAS, it isn't a **** hole...much better than North Tijuana you call home.

I told people all the time that Sac was just like OKC with rivers, and flatter.

The best part about living there is:

Tahoe
Napa
Reno
SF
Shasta
Mendocino
Marin
Monterey
Yosemite

Hard to name a place with a better list of choices for day-trips.

Yep. Sac has the best location I've ever lived in.

SanJoaquinSooner
6/15/2009, 08:33 PM
Why not go back to your motherland of Messico?

Oklahoma is my motherland, and Norman was a fantastic tit, but I weaned off awhile back.

KABOOKIE
6/15/2009, 09:15 PM
Great. Californians leaving for Oklahoma. The collective IQ of both states will go down.

OUAlumni1990
6/15/2009, 10:28 PM
^^haha I get it...

LosAngelesSooner
6/16/2009, 02:44 PM
<=== I've lived the article.

Returned to OK after retiring to Sacramento, and no LAS, it isn't a **** hole...much better than North Tijuana you call home.

I told people all the time that Sac was just like OKC with rivers, and flatter.

The best part about living there is:

Tahoe
Napa
Reno
SF
Shasta
Mendocino
Marin
Monterey
Yosemite

Hard to name a place with a better list of choices for day-trips.*shrug*
I've spent some time there...felt like it was a ****hole.

One man's trash is another man's treasure. No accounting for taste.

P.S. - Don't get me wrong...it's no BAKERSFIELD or BARSOTW...but what is? :D

King Crimson
6/16/2009, 03:05 PM
based on the Colorado experience, as it turns out the californians aren't that bad. it's the new yorkers and new englanders moving in that you should worry about.

OklahomaRed
6/16/2009, 03:23 PM
Do you think it is perhaps because of this?

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE55F5VK20090616

LosAngelesSooner
6/16/2009, 03:37 PM
No.

The "California Economic Collapse" is so completely blown out of proportion that it's not even funny.

I just wish the Govenator wasn't closing all those beautiful parks.

OklahomaRed
6/16/2009, 04:29 PM
No.

The "California Economic Collapse" is so completely blown out of proportion that it's not even funny.

I just wish the Govenator wasn't closing all those beautiful parks.

So, where is California going to get the $$$ to continue to run all of their socialist programs? They don't own a printing press like "O"? :D

LosAngelesSooner
6/16/2009, 05:03 PM
Quite honestly, we're gonna LOSE a bunch of those programs. (which isn't a bad thing)

But the problem isn't even the programs, it's the way our property tax structure is set up out here. We fix that...and all our economic woes go the way of the DoDo.