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JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 09:20 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama
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I'm thinking more and more that this guy would have made a better Secretary of State than a President. Any chance he and Hillary can switch places?
OU4LIFE
6/4/2009, 09:29 AM
you mean her on top?
Veritas
6/4/2009, 09:52 AM
I wonder when he's going to come by my house and kiss my ***.
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 09:53 AM
I wonder when he's going to come by my house and kiss my ***.
I'm sure it's on his list of things to do. Give him time.
Also, I finally started The Brenner Assignment. Good stuff!
Veritas
6/4/2009, 09:57 AM
I'm sure it's on his list of things to do. Give him time.
Also, I finally started The Brenner Assignment. Good stuff!
Yes! That book is awesome.
"the holy quran" ???:confused:
Seriously, HOLY? WTF!?!?!
TUSooner
6/4/2009, 10:25 AM
Diplomacy is a concept that doesn't normally generate much popular support on the SO. Just sayin. Good luck anyway! ;)
Diplomacy is a concept that doesn't normally generate much popular support on the SO. Just sayin. Good luck anyway! ;)
Maybe it would've gone over better here if he pronounced it "cure-in".
Diplomacy is a concept that doesn't normally generate much popular support on the SO. Just sayin. Good luck anyway! ;)
You have a funny definition of diplomacy I guess. Being diplomatic has nothing to do with sucking someones dick to to prove just how much you like them.
OU4LIFE
6/4/2009, 10:51 AM
You have a funny definition of diplomacy I guess. Being diplomatic has nothing to do with sucking someones dick to to prove just how much you like them.
agree to disagree. ;)
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 10:54 AM
You have a funny definition of diplomacy I guess. Being diplomatic has nothing to do with sucking someones dick to to prove just how much you like them.
Yeah because W's idea of spreading democracy has worked so well and been so well received.
NormanPride
6/4/2009, 10:56 AM
Who was talking about that failure? We're talking about this failure. Keep up. ;)
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 11:13 AM
"the holy quran" ???:confused:
Seriously, HOLY? WTF!?!?!
If someone who wasn't a Christian said "The Holy Bible", would you react like this?
It's just an honorific, so to speak. It's not worth WTF'ing over.
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 11:19 AM
If someone who wasn't a Christian said "The Holy Bible", would you react like this?
It's just an honorific, so to speak. It's not worth WTF'ing over.
Dude. We live in Christian Nation. Founded on Christian principles. Try and keep up.
TheHumanAlphabet
6/4/2009, 11:19 AM
I do like it how he mentioned Hussein as in Barack Hussein Obama in his speech, when previously, people were villified if they used his full name during the campaign. The man has been a total F up since the beginning and he only continues to show his extreme liberal hand and his "manchurian" nature.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 11:28 AM
I also like how most people who emphasized the "Hussein" part of his name pretended it wasn't shameless race-baiting, and how most people let them.
Jello Biafra
6/4/2009, 11:49 AM
my opinion but, him playing up the hussein name is kinda like saying "im one of you"
dude, you either with us or against us. period.
If someone who wasn't a Christian said "The Holy Bible", would you react like this?
If I were a Muslim and my Muslim leader said it while sucking up to a Christian group, yes.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 12:00 PM
Uh, if you listen to his speech, one of his big points is that being a Muslim doesn't preclude one from being for America.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 12:04 PM
If I were a Muslim and my Muslim leader said it while sucking up to a Christian group, yes.
Actually, there's nothing inconsistent about a Muslim calling the Bible holy. But that's another story.
so Obama is a Christian leader now?
you guys won't be happy until we are actually at war with all Muslims, will you?
KABOOKIE
6/4/2009, 12:14 PM
The media has been pronouncing it moooooslim. It should be Aaaayrab.
My Opinion Matters
6/4/2009, 12:21 PM
Reading this thread I realized I don't have enough palms for my forehead.
so Obama is a Christian leader now?
you guys won't be happy until we are actually at war with all Muslims, will you?
I don't know why I am so often amazed by how far off stream people on this board can take a post. Did I say he was a Christian leader? No. Not once did I say that. I don't believe it at all, so I wouldn't say it. Understand?
My point is that calling the quran "Holy" and quoting from it is either just a huge suck up ploy or he believes it to be true. I don't know or care which it is but both are wrong(if he is in fact a Christian as he claimed during the campaign) A Christian does not believe the koooran to be holy and therefore wouldn't say that it was. Words mean things.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 12:38 PM
... either that, or he could just be emphasizing the parts of their faith that will make them more likely to agree with him. That's not sucking up, that's just smart oratory.
Jeez, it's like some of you hate competence.
KC//CRIMSON
6/4/2009, 12:40 PM
Diplomacy is a concept that doesn't normally generate much popular support on the SO. Just sayin. Good luck anyway! ;)
They'd rather just drink beer and blow schit up.
Turn'em into a sheet of glass! USA! USA! USA!
TUSooner
6/4/2009, 12:42 PM
You have a funny definition of diplomacy I guess. Being diplomatic has nothing to do with sucking someones dick to to prove just how much you like them.
Would it be diplomatic for me to tell you are tactless, clueless bunghole because you disagree with my definition of diplomacy? I'd rather just thank you for proving my point.
TUSooner
6/4/2009, 12:45 PM
"the holy quran" ???:confused:
Seriously, HOLY? WTF!?!?!
You object to that?! Right. I guess he should have said, "that ****ing bogus chunk of toilet paper you rag-heads call 'scripture'". That woulda showed 'em!
Pricetag
6/4/2009, 12:45 PM
Holy is in the eye of the be-holy-der.
TUSooner
6/4/2009, 12:50 PM
I don't know why I am so often amazed by how far off stream people on this board can take a post. Did I say he was a Christian leader? No. Not once did I say that. I don't believe it at all, so I wouldn't say it. Understand?
My point is that calling the quran "Holy" and quoting from it is either just a huge suck up ploy or he believes it to be true. I don't know or care which it is but both are wrong(if he is in fact a Christian as he claimed during the campaign) A Christian does not believe the koooran to be holy and therefore wouldn't say that it was. Words mean things.
Do you have any friends?
EDIT: Let me explain. I assume you do have friends, and that you didnt get them or keep them by being an obnoxious, close-minded jerk who abrades them constantly by emphasizing your differences with them and your contempt for them. Try to think how that might apply on a larger scale. Or maybe you DO just kill everyone you meet who disagrees with you.
TheHumanAlphabet
6/4/2009, 12:51 PM
Where are all the speeches around the world where Muslims are denouncing radical Wahhabiism and other radical muslim sects/clerics and asking the U.S. to be more friendly to the Islamic nations?
KC//CRIMSON
6/4/2009, 01:03 PM
Where are all the speeches around the world where Muslims are denouncing radical Wahhabiism and other radical muslim sects/clerics and asking the U.S. to be more friendly to the Islamic nations?
Muslim leaders and clerics denounce terrorism all the time, where have you been? Besides, this is about the Prez puttng his best foot forward and trying diplomacy with the Muslim and Islamic nations.
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 01:27 PM
I don't know why I am so often amazed by how far off stream people on this board can take a post. Did I say he was a Christian leader? No. Not once did I say that. I don't believe it at all, so I wouldn't say it. Understand?
My point is that calling the quran "Holy" and quoting from it is either just a huge suck up ploy or he believes it to be true. I don't know or care which it is but both are wrong(if he is in fact a Christian as he claimed during the campaign) A Christian does not believe the koooran to be holy and therefore wouldn't say that it was. Words mean things.
I think all these mythologies we're talking about are an epic waste of time. So, nanny nanny boo boo.
Fraggle145
6/4/2009, 01:27 PM
You object to that?! Right. I guess he should have said, "that ****ing bogus chunk of toilet paper you rag-heads call 'scripture'". That woulda showed 'em!
heh. :D
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8258/pwned111za6.jpg
My Opinion Matters
6/4/2009, 01:29 PM
I don't know why I am so often amazed by how far off stream people on this board can take a post. Did I say he was a Christian leader? No. Not once did I say that. I don't believe it at all, so I wouldn't say it. Understand?
My point is that calling the quran "Holy" and quoting from it is either just a huge suck up ploy or he believes it to be true. I don't know or care which it is but both are wrong(if he is in fact a Christian as he claimed during the campaign) A Christian does not believe the koooran to be holy and therefore wouldn't say that it was. Words mean things.
achiro...
When you're a guest in someone else's house you don't insult their furniture.
It's really that simple.
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 01:30 PM
They'd rather just drink beer and blow schit up.
Turn'em into a sheet of glass! USA! USA! USA!
America! **** yeah!
MrJimBeam
6/4/2009, 01:56 PM
I don't have time to watch the speech so someone tell me, do the muslims still hate us and want to blow up our buildings?
King Crimson
6/4/2009, 02:12 PM
regardless of the content of the speech, much of this thread would likely read almost exactly as it does now in any circumstances other than maybe Obama giving the speech in an IDF uniform.
Wow! Glad to see the same ol lib "debate" tactic of, when you have no defense just call your opponent an ignorant bigot war mongerer that beats his children and kicks small animal, still exists today. :rolleyes:
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 02:57 PM
America! **** yeah!
lol... but who knows, Obama might be doing just as Teddy did.
"Speak soft, but carry a big stick"
TheHumanAlphabet
6/4/2009, 02:58 PM
Muslim leaders and clerics denounce terrorism all the time, where have you been?
Not to argue, but I haven't heard much outside of (a few people in) the U.S. I don't recall a cleric or leader from the M.E. or Asia saying anything. At least it hasn't been published or aired in the U.S. that I can recall.
rainiersooner
6/4/2009, 03:00 PM
I'm still pissed off about Nixon visiting China. I heard he even ate Chinese food when he was there. Commie.
TheHumanAlphabet
6/4/2009, 03:01 PM
lol... but who knows, Obama might be doing just as Teddy did.
"Speak soft, but carry a big stick"
That would be nice. Not to bash countries, but actually set some boundaries and stick to those boundaries. I am not so confident he will do that, though I don't have a set opinion yet and I would like to see him prove that he can do that.
rainiersooner
6/4/2009, 03:08 PM
Not to argue, but I haven't heard much outside of (a few people in) the U.S. I don't recall a cleric or leader from the M.E. or Asia saying anything. At least it hasn't been published or aired in the U.S. that I can recall.
I think the Muslim and Arab world have failed horribly on this. Perhaps creating a new tone will give them the reason to start to lead their people in a productive way. I think it was a great speech.
NYC Poke
6/4/2009, 03:11 PM
These reactions are pretty interesting. A sample:
"I challenge any Arab leader to go to the U.S. or the West and quote the Bible like Obama quoted the Quran." — Rabah al-Mutawa, a Saudi woman in Riyadh.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/06/reaction_to_obamas_speech_to_the_muslim_world.php? ref=fpb
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 03:18 PM
That would be nice. Not to bash countries, but actually set some boundaries and stick to those boundaries.
Like W did with Afghanistan when he walked away from an unfinished fight?
TUSooner
6/4/2009, 03:33 PM
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TUSooner
6/4/2009, 03:36 PM
I'm still pissed off about Nixon visiting China. I heard he even ate Chinese food when he was there. Commie.
Best post ever.
:D
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 03:39 PM
i mean Chinese food is pretty damn good.... middle east food? prlly not... haha
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 03:54 PM
Heh, have you ever had Middle Eastern food?
I really like Lebanese.
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 04:00 PM
never have had it.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 04:03 PM
Try some Lebanese food some time. Some of it is really damn good.
sooner ngintunr
6/4/2009, 04:08 PM
Whats Lesbianese? oh wait.....
TheHumanAlphabet
6/4/2009, 04:10 PM
Like W did with Afghanistan when he walked away from an unfinished fight?
Not going to argue with you there. Afghan and Paki are the keys here... I ended up extremely disappointed with W in the end. I dont' think he did as well as he could have and he certainly wasn't as conservative as he initially indicated. His job as Gov. of texas was better than his performance as Pres. (excepting 9/11) IMO.
olevetonahill
6/4/2009, 04:34 PM
They'd rather just drink beer and blow schit up.
Turn'em into a sheet of glass! USA! USA! USA!
You say that like you think its a Bad thing er sompun :P
Fraggle145
6/4/2009, 04:42 PM
never have had it.
Its pretty good. :D
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 04:45 PM
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm474/jlew1818/lebanesefoodtabboulifalafel.jpg
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 05:15 PM
^ Yum.
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 05:16 PM
^ Yum.
they got any of those places around where you live? I've never tired it.
JohnnyMack
6/4/2009, 05:31 PM
they got any of those places around where you live? I've never tired it.
Had falafel for lunch on Tuesday actually.
Where is it you live?
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 05:54 PM
in east texas at the moment.. how bout u?
NYC Poke
6/4/2009, 06:01 PM
in east *Texas* at the moment.. how bout u?
Tyler/Longview probably has one or two. There are a ton in Houston.
It's good stuff. They really know how to do lamb.
Maybe I should rephrase that . . .
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 06:07 PM
lol.
Vaevictis
6/4/2009, 06:10 PM
Maybe I should rephrase that . . .
Probably should, unless you want to admit that OSU doesn't have the market completely cornered on that.
LosAngelesSooner
6/4/2009, 06:11 PM
We've got some really good Middle-Eastern food restaurants out here. That's one of the great things about living in cities like LA, NYC, Chicago, etc...the amazing selections of restaurants from around the world.
Oh, and Achiro's posts in this thread were embarrassingly stupid and narrow minded. So much so that I can't even take the time to address them all.
Carry on with the food talk. It's more interesting.
LosAngelesSooner
6/4/2009, 06:15 PM
Except one thing (The Master's in English wouldn't let me pass this one by)
Words DO have meaning. For example:
holy
- 4 dictionary results
http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/H03/H0338700) /ˈhoʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngli/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) [hoh-lee] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) adjective, -li⋅er, -li⋅est, noun, plural -lies. –adjective
1. specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated: holy ground.
2. dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion: a holy man.
3. saintly; godly; pious; devout: a holy life.
4. having a spiritually pure quality: a holy love.
5. entitled to worship or veneration as or as if sacred: a holy relic.
6. religious: holy rites.
Nowhere in the definition does it say, "Jesus cornered the market on all things holy." So, YES, the Quran IS holy. So is the Parthenon. So is the Temple of the Dawn. So is Stone Henge.
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 06:17 PM
Except one thing (The Master's in English wouldn't let me pass this one by)
Words DO have meaning. For example:
holy
- 4 dictionary results
http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/H03/H0338700) /ˈhoʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngli/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) [hoh-lee] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) adjective, -li⋅er, -li⋅est, noun, plural -lies. –adjective
1. specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated: holy ground.
2. dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion: a holy man.
3. saintly; godly; pious; devout: a holy life.
4. having a spiritually pure quality: a holy love.
5. entitled to worship or veneration as or as if sacred: a holy relic.
6. religious: holy rites.
So, YES, the Koran IS holy. So is the Parthenon. So is the Temple of the Dawn.
when ever I'm bored, I type in dirty words, and the audio dictionary pronounces them... u should try !
Except one thing (The Master's in English wouldn't let me pass this one by)
Words DO have meaning. For example:
holy
- 4 dictionary results
http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/H03/H0338700) /ˈhoʊhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngli/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) [hoh-lee] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/) adjective, -li⋅er, -li⋅est, noun, plural -lies. –adjective
1. specially recognized as or declared sacred by religious use or authority; consecrated: holy ground.
2. dedicated or devoted to the service of God, the church, or religion: a holy man.
3. saintly; godly; pious; devout: a holy life.
4. having a spiritually pure quality: a holy love.
5. entitled to worship or veneration as or as if sacred: a holy relic.
6. religious: holy rites.
Nowhere in the definition does it say, "Jesus cornered the market on all things holy." So, YES, the Quran IS holy. So is the Parthenon. So is the Temple of the Dawn. So is Stone Henge.
You just proved my point but are to GD moronic to even know why...keep tryin. :rolleyes:
KABOOKIE
6/4/2009, 11:25 PM
http://i319.photobucket.com/albums/mm474/jlew1818/lebanesefoodtabboulifalafel.jpg
I'd hate the ****ing world and wanna blow **** up with a vest if I had to eat crap like that.
Turd_Ferguson
6/4/2009, 11:36 PM
I'd hate the ****ing world and wanna blow **** up with a vest if I had to eat crap like that.No ****. We should open a Pig Out Palace down there.
JLEW1818
6/4/2009, 11:49 PM
Obama might make us start eating middle eastern food though... it's the right thing to do.
SanJoaquinSooner
6/4/2009, 11:49 PM
I love hummus.
And I love the shawarma sandwich. This is chicken but I usually get beef:
http://granddimitres.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Shawarma_sandwich.31983558.JPG
an who the f*** doesnt like shish kabob?
KABOOKIE
6/4/2009, 11:51 PM
That's what they look like when they blow themselves up.
Jello Biafra
6/5/2009, 08:47 AM
So, YES, the Quran IS holy. So is the Parthenon. So is the Temple of the Dawn. So is Stone Henge.
how bout the temple of doom?
Jello Biafra
6/5/2009, 08:48 AM
I love hummus.
thats what we hear....o wait...wrong topic
incidentally, that pic closely resembles a gyro....or as most of us say it in this state, jiro
OklahomaTuba
6/5/2009, 09:12 AM
So, whats the next stop on the apology tour?
Pricetag
6/5/2009, 09:30 AM
Not to argue, but I haven't heard much outside of (a few people in) the U.S. I don't recall a cleric or leader from the M.E. or Asia saying anything. At least it hasn't been published or aired in the U.S. that I can recall.
That's because the friggin' MSM won't cover it.
King Crimson
6/5/2009, 09:43 AM
That's because the friggin' MSM won't cover it.
isn't "state-media" the way "we" say it now? ya know, the whole new totalitarianism thing. Pravda, etc.
LosAngelesSooner
6/5/2009, 06:43 PM
You just proved my point but are to GD moronic to even know why...keep tryin. :rolleyes:The sad thing is how you just reinforced MY point with this ignorant response.
I love it when the other side does all my work for me. :D
Lott's Bandana
6/5/2009, 06:51 PM
The Olive Branch
Corner of Hudson and Sheridan, OKC
9 ways of yummy.
Oh, and I listened to his speech. I thought it was pretty good...no issues from my perspective.
CNN pointed out that POTUS purposely avoided using the word, TERROR in the speech as the M world is sick of the label. Interesting.
GottaHavePride
6/5/2009, 08:12 PM
No ****. We should open a Pig Out Palace down there.
Um, Muslims don't eat pork, same as Jews.
And if you've ever had a gyro at the Greek House in Norman, well, you're eating middle-eastern food.
EDIT: TOTP, bitches!!!!
stoops the eternal pimp
6/5/2009, 09:28 PM
No ****. We should open a Pig Out Palace down there.
That one in Henryetta is da bomb yo
geaux_sec_tigers
6/7/2009, 05:55 PM
Dude. We live in Christian Nation. Founded on Christian principles. Try and keep up.
That was the most f*c*ed up thing I have ever heard before! The Founding Fathers were not Christians, and the Natives of North America were slaughtered by those who practiced Christianity, as the Africans were enslaved because of white Christians. Obama will finally put a foot to the racist whites in the West and Zionists in Israel who want to oppress Arabs and Africans in this world and keep us at the bottom. Your time is coming, crackers! :mad:
KABOOKIE
6/7/2009, 06:07 PM
That was the most f*c*ed up thing I have ever heard before! The Founding Fathers were not Christians, and the Natives of North America were slaughtered by those who practiced Christianity, as the Africans were enslaved because of white Christians. Obama will finally put a foot to the racist whites in the West and Zionists in Israel who want to oppress Arabs and Africans in this world and keep us at the bottom. Your time is coming, crackers! :mad:
I think go sechs tigers is going on a trip....to sechs tigers....
sooner ngintunr
6/7/2009, 06:11 PM
that tool aint worth my time.
Gandalf_The_Grey
6/7/2009, 06:30 PM
That was the most f*c*ed up thing I have ever heard before! The Founding Fathers were not Christians, and the Natives of North America were slaughtered by those who practiced Christianity, as the Africans were enslaved because of white Christians. Obama will finally put a foot to the racist whites in the West and Zionists in Israel who want to oppress Arabs and Africans in this world and keep us at the bottom. Your time is coming, crackers! :mad:
Heh! JohnnyMack is getting attacking for his lack of liberalness!!
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