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stoops the eternal pimp
4/30/2009, 11:35 PM
who is us?

olevetonahill
4/30/2009, 11:37 PM
who is us?

short fer
Ugly suckers
pay tention:P

Collier11
4/30/2009, 11:41 PM
holy escondido!

Collier11
4/30/2009, 11:54 PM
Hell....I started this thread thinking it wouldn't be more than 10 posts. I get back and now it's on pace to be an epic one....perhaps it will get as long as SicEm's novel last year...well, one can only hope!

Btw Jlew and OleVet...I joined! I must say, that's a purdy background and layout for the secret lair.

You thought wrong bucko! And yes, that background would be very nice if it were real

Crucifax Autumn
5/1/2009, 12:36 AM
We are very big on the eye candy there. No reason to cheap out and be pansies about it. Boring and ugly sucks camel balls.

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:32 AM
What makes you think I feel left out? If I wanted so badly to be in the "posse", would I not conform to the culture and do everything in my power to befriend one of the members? That I'm willing to write my thoughts and critically analyze those of others, regardless of affiliation, should indicate I'm perfectly content with posting, absent any "posse".

If such a thing existed that had some sort of culture then how the hell would I be a member? :confused:

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:33 AM
What makes you think my feelings are hurt? Really, your assertions are completely without merit.

Common sense says, because you wont stfu about it.

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:35 AM
In my posts, I request evidence or articulation for assertions. I don't think that's a sign of hurt feelings. I also address why I have no regard for a cyberspace "posse". I don't think that's a display of hurt feelings. Most often, I'm deconstructing illogical platforms. I don't think that's indicative of hurt feelings. Please post a specific phrase that would lead you to believe I've made any appeal to emotion. Once you do that, simply articulate how it illustrates hurt feelings on my end. That's all you have to do. Please don't avoid such a simple task after making your "hunch" known, so easily.

your pseudo-intellectualism makes me want to stab myself in the ear with a sharp stick.

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:39 AM
You know. This thread was pretty entertaining and I actually like the a-hole more now than I did before I left for work.

At least through his fighting and whining he's stayed in character and even lessened the whining a bit.

The part that is confusing me is this dumb claim that we are conforming.

Vet's a militaryvet and hillbilly dude with a center-right political few. I'm a metalhead music nerd with center left political view. We have disagreements over the way I'm too foul mouthed and sick. 75 was a sports guy in college and Turd is...well, turd!

We're all quite different and that's part of why we hang together...we're not part of some borg collective so in that we are alike.

Yeah...we dislike teams OUr boys play. Yeah we expect to win big...hell, it's Oklahoma dammit.

Are we all friends? Mostly. Do we all agree? Rarely. Do we know one another personally. Lots of us do. Do I agree to fart when vet says fart? Nope...I'll burp to spite him.

The number one thing any of us actually do have in comon is either a disdain or disrespect for the conventions of polite society. We don't give a crap.

So what's the real question? How we feel to be friends, or in this case "the posse"?

Well, I think I can say how we feel in the words of the King:

Happier than a pig eatin' ****!

I just got wood. :eek:

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:41 AM
Put it in a sock and shove it in the drawer
sheesh amitures :P

Put what in the sock? :confused:

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:42 AM
Why don't all ya'll admit you're just a buncha sheep-shaggers.

Thats the Aggie's jorb.

Fraggle145
5/1/2009, 01:44 AM
and, sheep shaggin **** shootin sphincter shmasher... I just blew my wad.

Hell I missed out on this all day... had to get my licks in.

NYC Poke
5/1/2009, 09:31 AM
Thats the Aggie's jorb.

Leave it to the professionals.

Crucifax Autumn
5/1/2009, 09:46 AM
And there ya have it!

Jello Biafra
5/1/2009, 10:17 AM
And there ya have it!

have what? are you kidding me? this is gone on far too long. look, heres the bottom line...if you knew, you'd know right?


either you're in or you're not. if you have to ask, you haven't been invited.

Crucifax Autumn
5/1/2009, 10:22 AM
And if you haven't been invited you need to improve your attitude!

Turd_Ferguson
5/1/2009, 10:36 AM
And if you haven't been invited you need to improve your attitude!or offer up a bribe...don't forget bribes.

CrimsonJim
5/1/2009, 11:51 AM
There's a couple who are beyond repairing an attitude AND a bribe....basically they're just SOL.

Crucifax Autumn
5/1/2009, 10:56 PM
Yeah, but we'll take their money anyway!

LoyalFan
5/2/2009, 12:06 AM
Heck, most of the people in the "posse" don't know what an acronym IS! ;)

....that is assumin' this "posse" even exists

Yea, verily...the Posse IS and will ever be!
An Acronym is a Nym that can do backflips, somersaults, and the like.

LF

LoyalFan
5/2/2009, 12:07 AM
Wait.

You guys are talking about a POSSE?

My bad.

I thought you said...

...never mind.

Oh, there's plenty of THAT at the Posse site...trust me.

LF

LoyalFan
5/2/2009, 12:09 AM
If you got laid at any time within the last six months your membership in the posse is immediately terminated.

That means SicEm has been granted Lifetime Tenure.

LF

Crucifax Autumn
5/2/2009, 12:19 AM
LMAO...I'd be willing to bet he's the only one on the posse site that would qualify if that was really a requirement.

LoyalFan
5/2/2009, 12:19 AM
it's when all them catholic's get together, dummy......pay tention.

And THEY know how to par-tay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7wc55oXWf8

LF

Crucifax Autumn
5/2/2009, 12:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eROEsOkrEPw

theresonly1OU
5/2/2009, 08:50 AM
Oh, there's plenty of THAT at the Posse site...trust me.

LF

I know ;)

StoopTroup
5/8/2009, 02:52 AM
Aim4CM....

I try to get into arguments about Sooner Sports with opposing Fans not Sooner Fans. It doesn't always pan OUt that way...but I try.

The arguments I see you making in this thread really serve no purpose what so ever. Nick Zepp did a lot of this type stuff.

You really ought to try a better strategy of posting IMO.

Just sayin'

StoopTroup
5/8/2009, 12:30 PM
NSFW

For you Aim...

gqAypbgaUKM&feature=haxa_popt17us13

SteelClip49
5/8/2009, 12:39 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I was wondering when that cat was going to do something.

Collier11
5/8/2009, 01:33 PM
That is awesome!

AimForCenterMass
5/8/2009, 04:25 PM
You know. This thread was pretty entertaining and I actually like the a-hole more now than I did before I left for work.
Thank you.



At least through his fighting and whining he's stayed in character and even lessened the whining a bit.
How have I whined? Please provide something more than, "well, your writing is whining". Show me a specific post that a reasonable person would infer "whining".




The part that is confusing me is this dumb claim that we are conforming.

Vet's a militaryvet and hillbilly dude with a center-right political few. I'm a metalhead music nerd with center left political view. We have disagreements over the way I'm too foul mouthed and sick. 75 was a sports guy in college and Turd is...well, turd!

I never stated you were similar, which is what you seem to have confused with conforming.

conform: to act in accordance with prevailing standards or customs

Your response is only valid if I assert that you and the other members conform to certain styles of dress, political stance, employment, and background. If you possess even the slightest measure of reading comprehension and critical thinking, you might notice how I limited the boundaries of "conform" to apply only to the culture within the board.

Let's assume the board has a culture of its own. This convention manifests in the style of writing and behavior expressed by many on the board. If I demonstrate how you conform to this culture, which is limited to behaviors specific to the board, my assertion stands. That you're incapable of conceiving another's argument does not refute it, despite your assertion that it's a "dumb claim".



Yeah...we dislike teams OUr boys play.


I think you're investing too much into a game.



Yeah we expect to win big...hell, it's Oklahoma dammit.

You're not playing; you are a spectator. Get a grip on life.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive until now, to include the many posts over last weekend. Before I sign off for this weekend, I would like to ask a question:

Why are so many people trying to "call me out" like they are? My username is even adorning the title header of another topic, which was closed. What gives?

NYC Poke
5/8/2009, 04:46 PM
Dude, are you paid by the word?

Curly Bill
5/8/2009, 04:51 PM
Dude, are you paid by the word?

...but aren't you so very impressed by how articulate he is? ;) :D

NYC Poke
5/8/2009, 04:59 PM
...but aren't you so very impressed by how articulate he is? ;) :D


He talks purtier than a $20 whore.

CrimsonJim
5/8/2009, 05:19 PM
...but aren't you so very impressed by how articulate he is? ;) :D

Articulation requires one to be able to express oneself clearly. His unending rants without saying anything result in little more than mindless stammering.

Curly Bill
5/8/2009, 06:14 PM
Articulation requires one to be able to express oneself clearly. His unending rants without saying anything result in little more than mindless stammering.

I know that, you know that, but a big part of his schtick is that he's too smart for the room. He thinks using 100 words to say what could easily be said in less than half that, makes him seem smart.

TUSooner
5/8/2009, 06:21 PM
****
Get over yourself young man.

I tried that once; it really hurt my back.

King Crimson
5/8/2009, 06:22 PM
get over it guys. c'mon. i get negged all the time for having a handle that is like KC//Crimson.

olevetonahill
5/8/2009, 06:33 PM
get over it guys. c'mon. i get negged all the time for having a handle that is like KC//Crimson.

You 2 are kinda hard to tell apart :P

TUSooner
5/8/2009, 06:37 PM
I can't believe nobody said this, so I will:

I don't want to belong to any posse that would have me as a member.

olevetonahill
5/8/2009, 06:41 PM
I can't believe nobody said this, so I will:

I don't want to belong to any posse that would have me as a member.

To late
Ya in :P

King Crimson
5/8/2009, 06:41 PM
You 2 are kinda hard to tell apart :P

the other KC may not be posse cup of rah rah, but he's a good guy.

KC//CRIMSON
5/8/2009, 08:07 PM
the other KC may not be posse cup of rah rah, but he's a good guy.


You're quite the risk taker. I'm pretty sure you could've slapped sunglasses on a beagle and made a wiser investment.


Hey-O!

TUSooner
5/8/2009, 09:21 PM
To late
Ya in :P
Well, I CAN tie a pretty mean hangman's knot - 'n case anybody gets outta line. ;)

CrimsonJim
5/8/2009, 09:35 PM
I know that, you know that, but a big part of his schtick is that he's too smart for the room. He thinks using 100 words to say what could easily be said in less than half that, makes him seem smart.

You said schtick....heh heh heh

Crucifax Autumn
5/8/2009, 09:57 PM
Does anyone actually believe that a bunch of guys that have received enough red cards to open our own casino are acting in accordance with prevailing standards or customs of this board?


the other KC may not be posse cup of rah rah, but he's a good guy.

Yes...Compared to Aim KC is Jesus, Superman, Elvis, Jim Morrison, the Beatles, and George Washington rolled up in the tastiest taco with naked women hand feeding it to everyone.

Soonerus
5/8/2009, 09:58 PM
You're quite the risk taker. I'm pretty sure you could've slapped sunglasses on a beagle and made a wiser investment.


Hey-O!

trolls...

KC//CRIMSON
5/8/2009, 10:13 PM
trolls...


What's up, Matlock?

Soonerus
5/8/2009, 10:18 PM
What's up, Matlock?

No, this only took Barney Fife...

Fraggle145
5/9/2009, 02:08 AM
you know how I know you're gay:


Thank you.


How have I whined? Please provide something more than, "well, your writing is whining". Show me a specific post that a reasonable person would infer "whining".



I never stated you were similar, which is what you seem to have confused with conforming.

conform: to act in accordance with prevailing standards or customs

Your response is only valid if I assert that you and the other members conform to certain styles of dress, political stance, employment, and background. If you possess even the slightest measure of reading comprehension and critical thinking, you might notice how I limited the boundaries of "conform" to apply only to the culture within the board.

Let's assume the board has a culture of its own. This convention manifests in the style of writing and behavior expressed by many on the board. If I demonstrate how you conform to this culture, which is limited to behaviors specific to the board, my assertion stands. That you're incapable of conceiving another's argument does not refute it, despite your assertion that it's a "dumb claim".



I think you're investing too much into a game.


You're not playing; you are a spectator. Get a grip on life.

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive until now, to include the many posts over last weekend. Before I sign off for this weekend, I would like to ask a question:

Why are so many people trying to "call me out" like they are? My username is even adorning the title header of another topic, which was closed. What gives?

olevetonahill
5/9/2009, 05:09 AM
You're quite the risk taker. I'm pretty sure you could've slapped sunglasses on a beagle and made a wiser investment.


Hey-O!

Naw we Like Him LOL

olevetonahill
5/9/2009, 05:11 AM
Well, I CAN tie a pretty mean hangman's knot - 'n case anybody gets outta line. ;)

There is that LOL
;)

Lott's Bandana
5/9/2009, 08:48 AM
So what! You still ain't mentioned me.


I'll take Curly Bill for 1000, Alex.

Lott's Bandana
5/9/2009, 08:51 AM
Does anyone actually believe that a bunch of guys that have received enough red cards to open our own casino are acting in accordance with prevailing standards or customs of this board?



Yes...Compared to Aim KC is Jesus, Superman, Elvis, Jim Morrison, the Beatles, and George Washington rolled up in the tastiest taco with naked women hand feeding it to everyone.


Jesus Taco!

Feeding the multitudes...

"you wan more cheeps?"

VeeJay
5/9/2009, 03:22 PM
When's the next Drunkytown 'round these parts?

StoopTroup
5/9/2009, 05:06 PM
My favorite post in this thread. :D

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2610425&postcount=10

CrimsonJim
5/9/2009, 10:04 PM
Yep, pretty much sums up the world situation, don't it? ;)

Crucifax Autumn
5/11/2009, 02:08 AM
I think it does...and people better recognize!!!!!!

Boomer.....
5/11/2009, 07:28 AM
My favorite post in this thread. :D

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2610425&postcount=10

:D

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 12:28 PM
So, in other words, people have an issue with what I write. Then, when challenged to defend their objections, they can only address their disapproval of how I write. Not a single person has been able to defend his assertion.

I'll gladly refute whatever anyone writes, but I can't address 1,000 issues. Red herring arguments don't validate another. If someone wants to disagree about something and discuss that, I'm game.

Additionally, name-calling or hasty assertions, in lieu of defending one's position, do not give merit to that individual's position.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 01:14 PM
Awesome.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 01:19 PM
So, in other words, people have an issue with what I write. Then, when challenged to defend their objections, they can only address their disapproval of how I write. Not a single person has been able to defend his assertion.

I'll gladly refute whatever anyone writes, but I can't address 1,000 issues. Red herring arguments don't validate another. If someone wants to disagree about something and discuss that, I'm game.

Additionally, name-calling or hasty assertions, in lieu of defending one's position, do not give merit to that individual's position.

Im sorry, all I heard was blah blah blah blah, could you explain further

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 01:25 PM
So, in other words, people have an issue with what I write. Then, when challenged to defend their objections, they can only address their disapproval of how I write. Not a single person has been able to defend his assertion.

I'll gladly refute whatever anyone writes, but I can't address 1,000 issues. Red herring arguments don't validate another. If someone wants to disagree about something and discuss that, I'm game.

Additionally, name-calling or hasty assertions, in lieu of defending one's position, do not give merit to that individual's position.

My goodness, IT'S AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!! GET OVER IT!!!

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 01:27 PM
Most often, I'm deconstructing illogical platforms.

CrimsonJim
5/14/2009, 02:23 PM
Amazing. Simply amazing.....

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 02:38 PM
Quite often, I respond directly to statements even when they don't bother me.

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 02:45 PM
Some folks get a Pocket full of 20$ words and want to spend em all in one post.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 02:50 PM
In my posts, I request evidence or articulation for assertions.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 03:09 PM
I was illustrating how erratic and irrelevant assertions do nothing to refute an argument.

Lott's Bandana
5/14/2009, 03:09 PM
Not a single person has been able to defend his assertion.



You are correct.

Several people have been quite able to defend their assertions.

Chuck Bao
5/14/2009, 03:21 PM
Seriously, dude, chill a bit.

I probably don't agree with more than half on this board and that includes the vast majority of fellow posse members.

I also don't care about spek. Okay, there was one neg spek many years ago that read "I am deeply saddened that a supporter of our beloved Sooners can be so stupid". Back then I wasn't a sponsor and had no clue who that was from. It did bother me for a while. It was not the personal attack and I could care less about that. It was more about the attempt to railroad someone out of town with a different political view. Now, it is funny because I may indeed be very stupid and I just don't give a damn if that poster is saddened by my stupidity.

If you have your views and produce convincing arguments, stick to your guns. You will eventualy be respected for it.

On the other hand, if you just want to draw attention to yourself by whining and complaining, you are doing a great job.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 03:32 PM
My goodness, IT'S AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!! GET OVER IT!!!

Tell that to the dozens of posters who respond with their argument. I understand this is a message board. However, I don't see how my responses are any less warranted simply because they're focused on rationality. From your position, I suppose my rebuttals would be perfectly acceptable if they consisted of irrelevant assertions. Why, after all of these posts by many others, did you choose insert the reminder that this is a message board? Why didn't you butt-in five, six, or seven pages ago? Lastly, why would I need any reminding of what this is? I'm not the one who dedicates the majority of his leisure on the forum; I'm not the one who clings to an internet "posse". Your argument is badly focused.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:32 PM
I think Matt stone and Trey Parker stated it most appropriately,
Ladies and gentlemen, "Derka Derka, muhammed Jihad, DERKA DERKA DERKA, Muhammed Jihad"

Lott's Bandana
5/14/2009, 03:34 PM
I think Matt stone and Trey Parker stated it most appropriately,
Ladies and gentlemen, "Derka Derka, muhammed Jihad, DERKA DERKA DERKA, Muhammed Jihad"


I laughed at this but also have no clue what it means.

Should I be worried?

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 03:34 PM
I don't see how my responses are any less warranted simply because they're focused on rationality.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:35 PM
I'm not the one who dedicates the majority of his leisure on the forum; I'm not the one who clings to an internet "posse". Your argument is badly focused.

What is your requisite for deciding that he or any of us spend the majority of our leisure time on here? I for one get on here throughout the work day when I am bored and when im at home drunk after a night out.

For anyone who might spend the "majority of their leisure time on the forum", what if they do? Some people play video games, some people watch sports, some people post on message boards, and you read dictionaries. To each their own.

And about the Posse...you are the one clinging to it, we just enjoy it for what it is!



Not that there is even a posse!

JLEW1818
5/14/2009, 03:35 PM
parker and stone are the **** !

Lott's Bandana
5/14/2009, 03:36 PM
Tell that to the dozens of posters who respond with their argument, rather HIlariously. I understand this is a message board. However, I don't see how my responses are any less warranted simply because they're focused on rationality. From your position, I suppose my rebuttals would be perfectly acceptable if they consisted of irrelevant assertions. Why, after all of these posts by many others, did you choose insert the reminder that this is a message board? Why didn't you butt-in five, six, or seven pages ago making the same statement other people have already pointed out? Lastly, why would I need any reminding of what this is? I'm not the one who dedicates the ajomrity of his leisure on the forum; I'm not the one who clings to an internet "posse", like a wet dingleberry. Your argument is badly focused.


El fixxo grande

JLEW1818
5/14/2009, 03:36 PM
What is your requisite for deciding that he or any of us spend the majority of our leisure time on here? I for one get on here throughout the work day when I am bored and when im at home drunk after a night out.

For anyone who might spend the "majority of their leisure time on the forum", what if they do? Some people play video games, some people watch sports, some people post on message boards, and you read dictionaries. To each their own.

And about the Posse...you are the one clinging to it, we just enjoy it for what it is!



Not that there is even a posse!



:D :D

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:37 PM
I laughed at this but also have no clue what it means.

Should I be worried?

it will come to you in a spek

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 03:40 PM
Seriously, dude, chill a bit.

I probably don't agree with more than half on this board and that includes the vast majority of fellow posse members.

I also don't care about spek. Okay, there was one neg spek many years ago that read "I am deeply saddened that a supporter of our beloved Sooners can be so stupid". Back then I wasn't a sponsor and had no clue who that was from. It did bother me for a while. It was not the personal attack and I could care less about that. It was more about the attempt to railroad someone out of town with a different political view. Now, it is funny because I may indeed be very stupid and I just don't give a damn if that poster is saddened by my stupidity.

If you have your views and produce convincing arguments, stick to your guns. You will eventualy be respected for it.

On the other hand, if you just want to draw attention to yourself by whining and complaining, you are doing a great job.

How am I whining? Please articulate with something other than, "because you're writing".

Does anyone here possess the slightest semblance of reading comprehension? I was calling out olevet for his inability to man-up and respond to private messages. I was addressing him publicly because he didn't have the guts to respond privately. I mentioned the "negging" to support my claim of his inability to address things personally, like a man. He has no problem posting erroneous personal information and "negging" someone to hell and back. Yet, when I try to understand why he's doing what he's doing, he just eludes his responsibilities as a dignified veteran and rallies his "posse". I wasn't whining for being "negged", despite your assertion.

People don't seem to mind calling me out when they think (through the inability to comprehend what they've read) I've done something wrong. Does no one see the irony in all of that? "You called out someone on the internet. That's just something one shouldn't do. I'm calling you out!"

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:43 PM
How am I whining? Please articulate with something other than, "because you're writing".

Does anyone here possess the slightest semblance of reading comprehension? I was calling out olevet for his inability to man-up and respond to private messages. I was addressing him publicly because he didn't have the guts to respond privately.

So the same person that just tried to criticize anyone who leisurely posts on a message board is now calling out someone to respond to a PM... :cool:

I mentioned the "negging" to support my claim of his inability to address things personally, like a man. He has no problem posting erroneous personal information and "negging" someone to hell and back. Yet, when I try to understand why he's doing what he's doing, he just eludes his responsibilities as a dignified veteran and rallies his "posse". I wasn't whining for being "negged", despite your assertion.

You cried about negging then told someone to respond like a man :cool:

People don't seem to mind calling me out when they think (through the inability to comprehend what they've read) I've done something wrong. Does no one see the irony in all of that? "You called out someone on the internet. That's just something one shouldn't do. I'm calling you out!"

The thing you have done wrong is trying to rationalize any discussion on a message board. You either agree or you dont, you either decide to pursue it or you dont, but dont try and rationalize it and then pout about it

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 03:46 PM
It occurs to me that when a large population observes a phenomenon, articulating similar conclusions and making similar assertions as to their empirical observations of this phenomenon, there is indeed factual basis for their assertions based upon sound logic and solid rationalizations. Ergo, you are a whiner.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 03:50 PM
The thing you have done wrong is trying to rationalize any discussion on a message board. You either agree or you dont, you either decide to pursue it or you dont, but dont try and rationalize it and then pout about it

My bad. Let me respond in SoonerFan fashion.

Dude, let it go. Quit whining about my writing style. All you've done is whine and pout about how I write. Now about that posse, what posse? Texas is teh suck. I'm better than everyone else because a team I root for beat a team they root for. I'm so sick of hearing/reading about Tim Tebow, I think I'll start up another thread about Tim Tebow talking about how sick and tired I am of hearing/reading about him. I listen to the Sports Animal and ask Jim Traber what he thinks about _____ because I'm too intellectually deficient to forumulate my own opinion. Offishully, you are teh whiner. What posse?

Lott's Bandana
5/14/2009, 03:51 PM
It occurs to me that when a large population observes a phenomenon, articulating similar conclusions and making similar assertions as to their empirical observations of this phenomenon, there is indeed factual basis for their assertions based upon sound logic and solid rationalizations. Ergo, you are a whiner.

Quod erat demonstrandum.


Um...where did you say you went to school?

makes my eyeballs hurt

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 03:51 PM
It occurs to me that when a large population observes a phenomenon, articulating similar conclusions and making similar assertions as to their empirical observations of this phenomenon, there is indeed factual basis for their assertions based upon sound logic and solid rationalizations. Ergo, you are a whiner.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

The court of public opinion does not validate a position. The same "conclusion" was made about a geocentric universe. Ergo, your assertion is flawed.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:52 PM
My bad. Let me respond in SoonerFan fashion.

Dude, let it go. Quit whining about my writing style. All you've done is whine and pout about how I write. Now about that posse, what posse? *Texas* is teh suck. I'm better than everyone else because a team I root for beat a team they root for. I'm so sick of hearing/reading about The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah, I think I'll start up another thread about The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah talking about how sick and tired I am of hearing/reading about him. I listen to the Sports Animal and ask Jim Traber what he thinks about _____ because I'm too intellectually deficient to forumulate my own opinion. Offishully, you are teh whiner. What posse?

much better, you still seem to be taking things too seriously though, one day, one day...

Lott's Bandana
5/14/2009, 03:54 PM
The court of public opinion does not validate a position. The same "conclusion" was made about a geocentric universe. Ergo, your assertion is flawed.


I think he was referring more to Spade-calling.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 03:58 PM
Fixed.


I'm trying to explain my bf's position, on his behalf. Also, I'm whining about how you write.

(Now I'm getting the hang of it)

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:58 PM
if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck, etc.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 03:58 PM
The court of public opinion does not validate a position. The same "conclusion" was made about a geocentric universe. Ergo, your assertion is flawed.


That is extraordinarily disingenuous. We're talking about subjective social determinations, not physical phenomena. And social judgments (such as the determination of one as a "whiner"), as you are undoubted aware, ARE formed in the court of public opinion. They are shared beliefs, or else they would not be social judgments. In this context, if everyone thinks you are a whiner, you are, therefore, a whiner.

QED

Collier11
5/14/2009, 03:59 PM
Fixed.



(Now I'm getting the hang of it)

you are bad at "Fixed" also...your people skills and sense of humor seem to be sorely lacking

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:00 PM
you gonna eat cho conebread?

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:00 PM
That is extraordinarily disingenuous. We're talking about subjective social determinations, not physical phenomena. A social judgments (such as the determination of one as a "whiner"), as you are undoubted aware, ARE formed in the court of public opinion. They are shared beliefs, or else they would not be social judgments. In this context, if everyone thinks you are a whiner, you are, therefore, a whiner.

QED

Beer Me!

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:01 PM
if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck, etc.

If the sun appears to revolve around the earth, etc.

Perception, based on the inability to comprehend what's being seen, does not always equate to reality. I'm asking for more than hasty assertions.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:04 PM
you are bad at "Fixed" also...your people skills and sense of humor seem to be sorely lacking

You suck at fixed and your belief in Zeus is unwarranted. Quit whining about my people skills.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:06 PM
If the sun appears to revolve around the earth, etc.

Perception, based on the inability to comprehend what's being seen, does not always equate to reality. I'm asking for more than hasty assertions.

You are on a SPORTS message board whining about people that talk non-stop about sports as well as trying to intellectualize :eek: why people are picking on you. You my friend are the one who comes off as needy and short on comprehension.

Most of us get off the board and get on with things, you seem like you are probably taking this home with you tonight, that is what is hard to comprehend

Chuck Bao
5/14/2009, 04:07 PM
How am I whining? Please articulate with something other than, "because you're writing".

Does anyone here possess the slightest semblance of reading comprehension? I was calling out olevet for his inability to man-up and respond to private messages. I was addressing him publicly because he didn't have the guts to respond privately. I mentioned the "negging" to support my claim of his inability to address things personally, like a man. He has no problem posting erroneous personal information and "negging" someone to hell and back. Yet, when I try to understand why he's doing what he's doing, he just eludes his responsibilities as a dignified veteran and rallies his "posse". I wasn't whining for being "negged", despite your assertion.

People don't seem to mind calling me out when they think (through the inability to comprehend what they've read) I've done something wrong. Does no one see the irony in all of that? "You called out someone on the internet. That's just something one shouldn't do. I'm calling you out!"

I tried to tell you to not take this message board personal and that if you are interested in Sooner sports and have something halfway decent to say that you would be respected.

Now, it is pretty clear that you are a troll and just trying to inflame debate.

In my opinion, you have no right to demand PMs from a member of this board and then call them out publicly when they don't respond. You are going on my ignore list and that's a first for me. I won't be responding to your PMs either, as I hope others don't.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:07 PM
I suck at talking to people and your belief that I am whining and have no people skills is warranted.

Lesson taught!

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:07 PM
That is extraordinarily disingenuous. We're talking about subjective social determinations, not physical phenomena. And social judgments (such as the determination of one as a "whiner"), as you are undoubted aware, ARE formed in the court of public opinion. They are shared beliefs, or else they would not be social judgments. In this context, if everyone thinks you are a whiner, you are, therefore, a whiner.

QED

Social judgements ARE formed in the court of public opinion, but those social judgements do not equate to reality. Were blacks whining when they demanded equality? That seemed to be the favored opinion of a certain age. The court of public opinion has no merit in a logical world.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:08 PM
Refraining from the volume of mass quantities of methanol gases, I believe refraction of the magnitude will cause an eruption, if you will, of distorded quagmires, that will reflect..no no...illuminate the gaseus aurora of my bunghole.

Fraggle145
5/14/2009, 04:09 PM
How am I whining? Please articulate with something other than, "because you're writing".

You are whining, not because you are writing, but because you are complaining incessantly in a childish fashion about something that isnt going to change (i.e., the definition of whining).


Does anyone here possess the slightest semblance of reading comprehension? I was calling out olevet for his inability to man-up and respond to private messages. I was addressing him publicly because he didn't have the guts to respond privately. I mentioned the "negging" to support my claim of his inability to address things personally, like a man. He has no problem posting erroneous personal information and "negging" someone to hell and back. Yet, when I try to understand why he's doing what he's doing, he just eludes his responsibilities as a dignified veteran and rallies his "posse". I wasn't whining for being "negged", despite your assertion.

Trying to cut people down while you make your point rarely succeeds. Also you are contradicting yourself. If you knew this was a message board, as you state in your previous post, then you should know that you shouldnt take this too seriously. But, you proceeded to call out someone who didn't like you in public because he didnt want to respond to you. If it shouldnt matter then why feel the need to call someone out? He is doing what he is doing because its fun to watch an ignorant cry baby pretend to be smart and have a freaking meltdown once a week on the internet.


People don't seem to mind calling me out when they think (through the inability to comprehend what they've read) I've done something wrong. Does no one see the irony in all of that? "You called out someone on the internet. That's just something one shouldn't do. I'm calling you out!"

We arent calling you out we are responding to what you posted. There is a difference, or did you forget your reading comprehension skills? You did the calling out when you laid out your private drama with vet. You then proceeded to call out everyone in the nonexistant posse by essentially claiming that they were losers in real life who cling to the message board for self worth. We are just showing you that the opposite is in fact true, and you just dont like it very much.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:10 PM
Social judgements ARE formed in the court of public opinion, but those social judgements do not equate to reality. Were blacks whining when they demanded equality? That seemed to be the favored opinion of a certain age. The court of public opinion has no merit in a logical world.

do you really think you being an idiot on a message board equated to racism...go away now, this was entertaining but now you are just taking this to plain stupid

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:12 PM
Social judgements ARE formed in the court of public opinion, but those social judgements do not equate to reality. Were blacks whining when they demanded equality? That seemed to be the favored opinion of a certain age. The court of public opinion has no merit in a logical world.


So now you're equating your plight being labelled as a whiner with the struggle of our fellow man to obtain equal rights in a society of laws? That's sheer hubris, and such a leaping asserition will require solid logic backing it. I'll wait.

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:12 PM
Tell that to the dozens of posters who respond with their argument. I understand this is a message board. However, I don't see how my responses are any less warranted simply because they're focused on rationality. From your position, I suppose my rebuttals would be perfectly acceptable if they consisted of irrelevant assertions. Why, after all of these posts by many others, did you choose insert the reminder that this is a message board? Why didn't you butt-in five, six, or seven pages ago? Lastly, why would I need any reminding of what this is? I'm not the one who dedicates the majority of his leisure on the forum; I'm not the one who clings to an internet "posse". Your argument is badly focused.

First, I haven't read any of the thread since I first posted in it. Second, I'm not part of the "posse". Lastly, you need a reminding of what this is because you sound like a giant baby. I haven't made a comment towards anyone else because everyone realizes that they will be disagreed with (see any political thread on this board). Just drop it man, like someone said your responses will be MORE VALID if you don't need your diaper changed after every post.

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 04:12 PM
What a doosh :rolleyes:

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:13 PM
do you really think you being an idiot on a message board equated to racism...go away now, this was entertaining but now you are just taking this to plain stupid

I never stated such, so leave the straw man out of this. I'm illustrating that "social judgements" and the "court of public opinion" don't hold any merit. Read my post again to comprehend its message.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:13 PM
What a doosh :rolleyes:

c11 can't help he was bored at the spring game..GET OFF HIS BACK!

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:14 PM
So now you're equating your plight being labelled as a whiner with the struggle of our fellow man to obtain equal rights in a society of laws? That's sheer hubris, and such a leaping asserition will require solid logic backing it. I'll wait.

This.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:14 PM
So now you're equating your plight being labelled as a whiner with the struggle of our fellow man to obtain equal rights in a society of laws? That's sheer hubris, and such a leaping asserition will require solid logic backing it. I'll wait.

Read my response to Collier. Reading comprehension goes a long way.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:14 PM
another thing that you dont seem to get is that almost all of us know several people on here, whether it is that we have talked to each other on here for years or that some actually know each other.

So what you are missing is that we know when we are being sarcastic, being funny, being a d*ck, or just trying to get a rise, you have no concept of knowing what our intentions are. Instead of flaming away everytime you get your feelings hurt on a meaningless message board, why dont you look first at what stupid thing you might have said to bring it on, and second at the intent or reasoning for what is said.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:15 PM
I don't want anybody on this board "rising" for me..

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:16 PM
c11 can't help he was bored at the spring game..GET OFF HIS BACK!

:cry: you went there ;)

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 04:16 PM
I got some yeast . will that help ?

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:16 PM
I got cho back playa from the himilaya...werd

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:16 PM
I never stated such, so leave the straw man out of this. I'm illustrating that "social judgements" and the "court of public opinion" don't hold any merit. Read my post again to comprehend its message.

you cant even comprehend your own message

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:17 PM
another thing that you dont seem to get is that almost all of us know several people on here, whether it is that we have talked to each other on here for years or that some actually know each other.

So what you are missing is that we know when we are being sarcastic, being funny, being a d*ck, or just trying to get a rise, you have no concept of knowing what our intentions are. Instead of flaming away everytime you get your feelings hurt on a meaningless message board, why dont you look first at what stupid thing you might have said to bring it on, and second at the intent or reasoning for what is said.

Quit whining. Seriously, you need to realize this is just a message board.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:17 PM
I got some yeast . will that help ?

its probably infected

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:17 PM
you cant even comprehend your own message

You can't post without whining.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:18 PM
i can't pee without farting

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:18 PM
Quit whining. Seriously, you need to realize this is just a message board.

and now your comprehension has gone way past reading

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:19 PM
for being in the military as you state, you sure are undisciplined...have fun playing with yourself now, im going home

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:20 PM
i can't pee without farting

I cant chew gum without sharting

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:21 PM
and now your comprehension has gone way past reading

I'm just "playing by the rules". Do you seriously not understand the point I was making?

1. A poster stated that social judgements are valid.
2. I disagreed. To illustrate how invalid a social judgement can be, I cited the unfortunate public opinion of a certain age. I was never comparing my situation to theirs. I was only illustrating how public opinion is worthless in a rational world.

How hard is that?

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:21 PM
for being in the military as you state, you sure are undisciplined...have fun playing with yourself now, im going home

How am I undisciplined?

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:22 PM
I'm going to request you stop posting in this thread.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:23 PM
If the sun appears to revolve around the earth, etc.

Actually, that would depend on where the observer was relative to both the Earth and the Sun.


Perception, based on the inability to comprehend what's being seen, does not always equate to reality. I'm asking for more than hasty assertions.

There is scientific value is shared common experience, and it is not to be discounted rashly. Prevailing scientific thought continued to view the Sun as revolving around the Earth until it was definitively and conclusively proven otherwise. Likewise here, the widespread common experience is that you are a whiner, and that requires you to produce defninitive and conclusive proof to back your hasty assertions that you are not, in fact, a whiner.

stoops the eternal pimp
5/14/2009, 04:23 PM
you pee your pants and then walk around showing everybody?

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:23 PM
How am I undisciplined?

this is a perfect example, you just cant stop yourself.

Ok, im really going home now

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:24 PM
Read my response to Collier. Reading comprehension goes a long way.

Indeed.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:24 PM
I'm going to request you stop posting in this thread.

Can you request everyone else stop posting as well? Is it not reasonable to respond to an argument that is addressed to that individual? This is a two-way street. I'm only responding to posts directed to/or about me.

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:24 PM
Actually, that would depend on where the observer was relative to both the Earth and the Sun.



There is scientific value is shared common experience, and it is not to be discounted rashly. Prevailing scientific thought continued to view the Sun as revolving around the Earth until it was definitively and conclusively proven otherwise. Likewise here, the widespread common experience is that you are a whiner, and that requires you to produce defninitive and conclusive proof to back your hasty assertions that you are not, in fact, a whiner.

Theres no way you went to osu, atleast you dont come off as a dumb azz redneck ;)

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:25 PM
Can you request everyone else stop posting as well? Is it not reasonable to respond to an argument that is addressed to that individual? This is a two-way street. I'm only responding to posts directed to/or about me.

I'm going to request you stop posting in this thread, again.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:28 PM
I'll stop. I've had my little fun.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:29 PM
this is a perfect example, you just cant stop yourself.

Ok, im really going home now

...and this is a perfect example as well. So far, you've managed only to make assertions. When challenged to articulate them, you abandon the position and move on to the next claim. We're not communicating; you're merely rehearsing your own prejudices.

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:30 PM
I'm going to request you stop posting in this thread, again.

Okay

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:31 PM
This was good, though. :D

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:32 PM
There is scientific value is shared common experience, and it is not to be discounted rashly. Prevailing scientific thought continued to view the Sun as revolving around the Earth until it was definitively and conclusively proven otherwise. Likewise here, the widespread common experience is that you are a whiner, and that requires you to produce defninitive and conclusive proof to back your hasty assertions that you are not, in fact, a whiner.

I'm not the one asserting anything so I have no burden of proof. I'm simply challenging people to provide support for their claims.

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 04:36 PM
Reminds me of My ex wife
she couldnt keep her ****in mouth shut either:rolleyes:

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:37 PM
Okay

^^^^This means you are not gonna post anymore.^^^^

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:39 PM
^^^^This means you are not gonna post anymore.^^^^

It means I acknowledge the existence of your request and nothing more.

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:39 PM
I think this thread may reach the level of the Josh Jarboe thread!

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:39 PM
Reminds me of My ex wife
she couldnt keep her ****in mouth shut either:rolleyes:

what do you say to a woman who has two black eyes?

Nothing, youve already told her twice :eek:

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:40 PM
It means I acknowledge the existence of your request and nothing more.

Well if you quit posting, it would be the best thing for you to do. Can't say I didn't try to help.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:41 PM
what do you say to a woman who has two black eyes?

Nothing, youve already told her twice :eek:


How many eyes does AFCM have?

Collier11
5/14/2009, 04:41 PM
...and this is a perfect example as well. So far, you've managed only to make assertions. When challenged to articulate them, you abandon the position and move on to the next claim. We're not communicating; you're merely rehearsing your own prejudices.

no this is exactly what is happening

AFCM-blah blah blah, something stupid

other posters-refute, call out, dispose

AFCM-whine, cry

other posters-quit whining and crying

AFCM-talk big, not make sense, ask for something that has already been answered or replied to numerous times

other posters-explain it again

AFCM- :confused:

AimForCenterMass
5/14/2009, 04:42 PM
Reminds me of My ex wife
she couldnt keep her ****in mouth shut either:rolleyes:

I'm not responding to myself. That I write is indicative of their inability to keep "their mouth shut", as well.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 04:44 PM
I'm not the one asserting anything so I have no burden of proof. I'm simply challenging people to provide support for their claims.

Nobody made claims. People expressed an opinion that you are a whiner.

Probably because you were whining.

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2610254#post2610254


Should I start a pole?

Ardmore_Sooner
5/14/2009, 04:44 PM
Reminds me of My ex wife
she couldnt keep her ****in mouth shut either:rolleyes:

Sorry Vet, but I've never heard a woman complain THIS MUCH.

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 04:44 PM
I'm not responding to myself. That I write is indicative of their inability to keep "their mouth shut", as well.

WTF did you just say ? :confused:

olevetonahill
5/14/2009, 04:45 PM
Sorry Vet, but I've never heard a woman complain THIS MUCH.

Tru dat bro .
he thinks he so articulate but His words make no sense :rolleyes:

tommieharris91
5/14/2009, 04:55 PM
Tru dat bro .
he thinks he so articulate but His words make no sense :rolleyes:

Reading his posts is like reading fine print.

NYC Poke
5/14/2009, 05:08 PM
Reading his posts is like reading fine print.

Dissent. Sometimes there's important stuff in fine print.

Fraggle145
5/14/2009, 05:15 PM
Let me say this again in case you didnt get it the first time (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2615708&postcount=352) I said it:


You are whining, not because you are writing, but because you are complaining incessantly in a childish fashion about something that isnt going to change (i.e., the definition of whining).

Jeezus how many times do you have to be told. You made the assertions and we are the responders. ****ing moran.

Curly Bill
5/14/2009, 05:52 PM
Im sorry, all I heard was blah blah blah blah, could you explain further

Interestingly, that's exactly what I got out of it. ;)

OU_Sooners75
5/14/2009, 07:28 PM
You then proceeded to call out everyone in the nonexistant posse by essentially claiming that they were losers in real life who cling to the message board for self worth. We are just showing you that the opposite is in fact true, and you just dont like it very much.


Speak for yourself. :P

OU_Sooners75
5/14/2009, 07:31 PM
I'm going to request you stop posting in this thread.


Then stop posting in this thread. ;)

It is a good comic relief watching such a "mental giant" meltdown on a message board.

OU_Sooners75
5/14/2009, 07:34 PM
Sorry Vet, but I've never heard a woman complain THIS MUCH.


You gotta be with one first. :P

Turd_Ferguson
5/14/2009, 07:59 PM
You gotta be with one first. :PChuck see him down at the STS.:D

CrimsonJim
5/14/2009, 10:30 PM
Im sorry, all I heard was blah blah blah blah, could you explain further

I just got caught up reading pages 16-21 of this tome, and oddly enough, that's about all I got out of it as well. Yes, there was some good comic relief, but I don't think he's capable of explaining further. He has been given ample opportunity to do so and has yet to do anything but talk in circles. Lather, Rinse, Repeat....

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 12:14 AM
The number one thing any of us actually do have in comon is either a disdain or disrespect for the conventions of polite society. We don't give a crap.



Olevet's posse of ex-wives...
http://www.misericordia.edu/circleoffriends/400wide_Circle%20of%20Friends%20Join%20Hands.jpg

Collier11
5/15/2009, 12:27 AM
and I present to you, SJS's typical weekend

http://www.maravorhees.com/images/cross-dress_parade_3.jpg

Crucifax Autumn
5/15/2009, 12:44 AM
So seriously Juan???? Really...You are going to continue this war with Vet over the fact that you think the Mexican flag has a place flying over the Stars and Stripes?

I'm fairly liberal on most issues including immigrant rights, but I think Our flag is greater than theirs and I'll always think so.

Your version of reality is that people breaking the law and defiling our nation deserve more respect than ANYONE who ever served in the military.

Keep making that argument and watch yourself lose.

And remember...I can't stand Rush Limaugh and I thought Sykes was funny and we shouldn't torture our captives....

Tells you just how backwards your opinion really is when someone most of the Posse would consider a commie thinks you're some kinda American hating, Wetback loving nutjob with a degree in landscaping!

Ardmore_Sooner
5/15/2009, 01:12 AM
Did I miss something?

Crucifax Autumn
5/15/2009, 01:26 AM
Just Juan jumping into the fight due to an old vendetta he and Vet have where Juan defended some mexifornia Restaurant flying the Mexican flag over Old Glory. There was some video where an old vet ripped down the flag and the illegals thought HE was the azzhole and Juan decided the Mexicans were right and Mexico's flag SHOULD fly over ours on OUR soil.

Typical crap from this guy in other words. And now he butts into this thread on the side of a guy whose biggest defense is he's serving.

Basically an anti-American illegal lover is trying to form an alliance with a guy who's job is to defend our borders and they will eventually both argue that this is NOT hipocracy of the highest level.

Anjd I say again...I'm a left leaning guy who once voted for Dukakis, but am now a middle of the road moderate that sees both sides and I think Juan is a juarong!

Ardmore_Sooner
5/15/2009, 01:32 AM
Ah. Should I request he stop posting in this thread?

Lott's Bandana
5/15/2009, 01:42 AM
Posse?



What Posse?

Crucifax Autumn
5/15/2009, 01:51 AM
It doesn't exist!

What does exist is weirdos who think the Mexican border is the Mason-Dixon line.

SicEmBaylor
5/15/2009, 02:29 AM
It doesn't exist!

What does exist is weirdos who think the Mexican border is the Mason-Dixon line.

I for one wish to God we had a border-fence along the Mason-Dixon line.

Chuck Bao
5/15/2009, 02:49 AM
Ah. Should I request he stop posting in this thread?

It may not work, but I think you should give it a shot.

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 07:26 AM
So seriously Juan???? Really...You are going to continue this war with Vet

:confused:

I made a joke about vet's ex-wives... how is that continuing a war with him over the aforementioned issue? You brought it up, not me.

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:29 AM
and I present to you, SJS's typical weekend

Well you've got to admit, SJS does have a nice pair of legs. :rolleyes:

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:31 AM
Ah. Should I request he stop posting in this thread?

Most certainly. Anything is worth a try! :cool:

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:36 AM
:confused:

I made a joke about vet's ex-wives... how is that continuing a war with him over the aforementioned issue? You brought it up, not me.

I think you will find that a considerable number of folks do not find your joke the least bit amusing, but thanks for playing all the same.

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 08:10 AM
the fact that you think the Mexican flag has a place flying over the Stars and Stripes?

Incorrect. I believe the 1st amendment of the United States Constitution protects unpopular speech.




Your version of reality is that people breaking the law and defiling our nation deserve more respect than ANYONE who ever served in the military.


Incorrect. The only one who broke the law was the one who confiscated and destroyed personal property.

I have great respect for ANYONE who serves in the military. My dad did two tours in Korea, came home a very sick man and died at the age of 33. I was 8. I still have the flag given to us for his casket. He fought for FREEDOM.



Juan decided the Mexicans were right and Mexico's flag SHOULD fly over ours on OUR soil


incorrect. The restaurant owner was a U.S. citizen. I don't think the Mexican flag SHOULD fly over the U.S. flag, but I do think the 1st amendment rights protecting unpopular speech SHOULD be observed.

Collier11
5/15/2009, 09:00 AM
unfortunately the 1st Amendment does protect people who dont have any respect for the stars and stripes in that sense, but if the guy was illegal they should boot his *** out now

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 09:05 AM
Heres the Article and the Vid that kinda got me all up in arms
http://infowars.net/articles/october2007/031007Flag.htm

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 09:06 AM
Heres the thread that got me all up in arms with jaun :pop:

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100856

Jello Biafra
5/15/2009, 09:15 AM
is jello gonna have ta choke a bish?!?!?

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 09:27 AM
unfortunately the 1st Amendment does protect people who dont have any respect for the stars and stripes in that sense, but if the guy was illegal they should boot his *** out now

He is a U.S. citizen. His intent was to show respect for both flags. He wasn't aware of perceptions on how one is flown over the other. If the offended guy had gone in and explained it, the restaurant owner said he would have gladly corrected it.

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 09:27 AM
is jello gonna have ta choke a bish?!?!?

Naw we handled him 2 yrs ago with out Killin him we can handle him now with out a killin :cool:

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 09:30 AM
He is a U.S. citizen. His intent was to show respect for both flags. He wasn't aware of perceptions on how one is flown over the other. If the offended guy had gone in and explained it, the restaurant owner said he would have gladly corrected it.

Hey jaun ? remember me saying the same to you ?:rolleyes:

Collier11
5/15/2009, 09:32 AM
He is a U.S. citizen. His intent was to show respect for both flags. He wasn't aware of perceptions on how one is flown over the other. If the offended guy had gone in and explained it, the restaurant owner said he would have gladly corrected it.

when you go to another country arent you supposed to be fully aware of and respect the customs and traditions of that country? I know I hear all the time that if you travel internationally you need to research their customs so you dont disrespect them...seems like common courtesy to me

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 09:38 AM
when you go to another country arent you supposed to be fully aware of and respect the customs and traditions of that country? I know I hear all the time that if you travel internationally you need to research their customs so you dont disrespect them...seems like common courtesy to me

C11 read the thread I posted :pop:

StoopTroup
5/15/2009, 10:41 AM
incorrect. The restaurant owner was a U.S. citizen. I don't think the Mexican flag SHOULD fly over the U.S. flag, but I do think the 1st amendment rights protecting unpopular speech SHOULD be observed.

Juan...I understand your point of Law in this matter...

I don't think I can agree with you on this though. Logic and Law miss the points that many of us here in America try to make to folks such as yourself.

This is about what the Flag represents. Especially to those who have fought for your legal rights and the freedom to express your logic.

Lott's Bandana
5/15/2009, 10:46 AM
There are times when the 1st Amendment rights are superseded by law, e.g. slander, threats and:


Title 4; US Flag Code

Sec 6:


(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

StoopTroup
5/15/2009, 10:49 AM
Well....there ya go Juanny....

Thanks Lott.

I knew there was a code on the Flag. It's been years since I had to look it up.

Education is a much better way to deal with folks. I hate having to go to all the trouble of burning down a House. ;) :D

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 11:41 AM
There are times when the 1st Amendment rights are superseded by law, e.g. slander, threats and:

Title 4; US Flag Code

Sec 6:


(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.

Well there ya have it! Game, set, match.

OU_Sooners75
5/15/2009, 11:44 AM
Incorrect. I believe the 1st amendment of the United States Constitution protects unpopular speech.





Incorrect. The only one who broke the law was the one who confiscated and destroyed personal property.

I have great respect for ANYONE who serves in the military. My dad did two tours in Korea, came home a very sick man and died at the age of 33. I was 8. I still have the flag given to us for his casket. He fought for FREEDOM.




incorrect. The restaurant owner was a U.S. citizen. I don't think the Mexican flag SHOULD fly over the U.S. flag, but I do think the 1st amendment rights protecting unpopular speech SHOULD be observed.

If you look really close...the American flag is to fly first in the homeland of the country.

OU_Sooners75
5/15/2009, 11:47 AM
He is a U.S. citizen. His intent was to show respect for both flags. He wasn't aware of perceptions on how one is flown over the other. If the offended guy had gone in and explained it, the restaurant owner said he would have gladly corrected it.

Let me put in simpleton terms....

We as Americans do not have to, nor should we have to, show respect for the mexican flag.

That ****ing country couldn't care less about the United States, so why should we show any respect to that **** poor country?

And IMHO, Mexico could fall off the face of the earth and this planet would be less infected with ****ty people!

Ardmore_Sooner
5/15/2009, 12:02 PM
http://www.creepygif.com/images/full/10.gif

;)

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 02:53 PM
Let me put in simpleton terms....

We as Americans do not have to, nor should we have to, show respect for the mexican flag.


And no one is requiring you to do so. But the 1st amendment and property rights (you do believe in property rights, I presume) allow others the FREEDOM to do so.



And IMHO, Mexico could fall off the face of the earth and this planet would be less infected with ****ty people!

A "Soonersfan" board may imply to others some affiliation with the University of Oklahoma. As an OU alum, I have a vested interest in the reputation of the institution. The comment above is a sad reflection on any perceived connection to the University.

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 03:00 PM
If you look really close...the American flag is to fly first in the homeland of the country.

Look close at what, the U.S. flag code?

Yea, the offended dude could have gone in and said that..... instead he calls the TV station and makes a big publicity production, and performs an illegal act.

Violating the U.S. flag code is not a criminal offense, by the way. It is advisory only.


The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Section 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and it is not widely enforced — indeed, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 03:05 PM
http://http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/image.php?u=54052&dateline=1225675676 wrote:
There are times when the 1st Amendment rights are superseded by law, e.g. slander, threats and:

The flag code does not supercede the U.S. constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled clearly on this.

OU_Sooners75
5/15/2009, 03:14 PM
And no one is requiring you to do so. But the 1st amendment and property rights (you do believe in property rights, I presume) allow others the FREEDOM to do so.




A "Soonersfan" board may imply to others some affiliation with the University of Oklahoma. As an OU alum, I have a vested interest in the reputation of the institution. The comment above is a sad reflection on any perceived connection to the University.


Here is some freedom of speech for ya....

If I was a predjuice person, I would be after my congressmen/women and everyone with power to either:

1. Herd all illegals and throw their asses back into bajaUSA. or
2. Herd all illegals and throw their asses into prison!

Then I would make it where ENGLISH is the official language.

Then I would make it illegal to present a flag above the Stars and Stripes in the US.

Sorry, just my opinion on how things should work here.

If you want to fly the Beaner flag above the USA's flag..then get your *** back to mexico!

OU_Sooners75
5/15/2009, 03:15 PM
Look close at what, the U.S. flag code?

Yea, the offended dude could have gone in and said that..... instead he calls the TV station and makes a big publicity production, and performs an illegal act.

Violating the U.S. flag code is not a criminal offense, by the way. It is advisory only.


You really are ****ing stupid, arent you?

Where did I even remotely suggest that it is a crime?

Jesus, dude....learn to ****ing read.

Jello Biafra
5/15/2009, 03:23 PM
Violating the U.S. flag code is not a criminal offense, by the way. It is advisory only.

mmhmmm so is burning the flag so....


take a flag and a lighter and let me know where you're going to do the act, we'll see how that works out for you.

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 03:30 PM
mmhmmm so is burning the flag so....


take a flag and a lighter and let me know where you're going to do the act, we'll see how that works out for you.

He prolly be hangin with the Phelps crowed that aint Illegal either :rolleyes:

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 05:43 PM
mmhmmm so is burning the flag so....


take a flag and a lighter and let me know where you're going to do the act, we'll see how that works out for you.

I wouldn't consider doing that. I love the United States. God Bless America.

It's silly you imply I have any interest in burning the flag.


I hope none of you would like to burn the United States Constitution.

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 06:06 PM
I wouldn't consider doing that. I love the United States. God Bless America.

It's silly you imply I have any interest in burning the flag.


I hope none of you would like to burn the United States Constitution.

Then why you post the mesican flag over Old Glory ?

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 06:08 PM
I do like Messican food better than Merican food?

Am I a traitor? ;) :P :D

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 06:13 PM
I do like Messican food better than Merican food?

Am I a traitor? ;) :P :D

Only if the beaner flag comes out yer *** stead of a Decent fart

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 06:15 PM
Only if the beaner flag comes out yer *** stead of a Decent fart

Only thing I'd do with the beaner flag is wipe with it. ;)

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 06:31 PM
Only thing I'd do with the beaner flag is wipe with it. ;)

Well there ya go then, Ya ok .;)

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 06:57 PM
I wonder what color the sky is in Juan's world. By my count, there hasn't been one single person agree with him on either thread, yet he's too ****ing stupid to see that whether it's "legal" or not, it's WRONG. How much simpler can it be?

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 06:59 PM
Only thing I'd do with the beaner flag is wipe with it. ;)

I would **** on it.

;)

SanJoaquinSooner
5/15/2009, 07:27 PM
Then why you post the mesican flag over Old Glory ?

OK, I have a serious question for you olevet,....suppose you walk into one of your grandchildren's bedroom and you see this poster on the wall. How would you react?

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Flags_World-poster_L.jpg

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 07:31 PM
Its a Poster ya dumas ;)
My Grand babies aint INTENTIONALLY Puttin ONE over the other
Are you really this stupid ?:P
You make me shamed that you went to OU :rolleyes:

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 07:32 PM
OK, I have a serious question for you olevet,....suppose you walk into one of your grandchildren's bedroom and you see this poster on the wall. How would you react?

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Flags_World-poster_L.jpg

If the flag represented one of these countries, then no problem.

Nato Alliance-

Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech Rep
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

I would proudly display any off those flags, just not above ours.

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:35 PM
OK, I have a serious question for you olevet,....suppose you walk into one of your grandchildren's bedroom and you see this poster on the wall. How would you react?

Who gives a rats @$$!!! That has absolutely NOTHING to do with flying the Mexican flag OVER Ole Glory on U.S. soil. Get with the program, Juan, or get on down the road. Your sauce is getting weaker by the post.

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 07:37 PM
Like Openacan said once
" Does it hurt to be this stupid ?" :rolleyes:

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:44 PM
If it does, Juan's in unbearable pain. ;)

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 07:46 PM
Maybe he needs http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zxsbVMrOUNw/R9QWz1fXTrI/AAAAAAAAAB4/59msPPmfL0g/s400/FAM_MIDOL_MAX_STRENGTH_CAPLE-5300.jpg

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 07:49 PM
Will that help the pain in his brain?

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 07:58 PM
Will that help the pain in his brain?

I do believe it will
Hell this thread woulda died a along time ago if it wernt fer Him and aim :rolleyes:
they just like head bangin I guess :D

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:11 PM
OK, I have a serious question for you olevet,....suppose you walk into one of your grandchildren's bedroom and you see this poster on the wall. How would you react?

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Flags_World-poster_L.jpg

jaun you asked I answered
Did you have a Point ? sides On the top of yer head ?:rolleyes:

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:21 PM
I would **** on it.

;)

Dang CK, where you been? The rest of us have been having to battle the evils of the world without ya. :P

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:22 PM
His balls just dropped :D

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:23 PM
heh

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:24 PM
Dang CK, where you been? The rest of us have been having to battle the evils of the world without ya. :P

Im here now! :D

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:25 PM
Im here now! :D

Playin wit em :rolleyes:

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:26 PM
Im here now! :D

I think the evil libs musta ran you off there for a while. :O

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:27 PM
I think the evil libs musta ran you off there for a while. :O

If you wanna loan me $124 I will be on all the time :D

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:31 PM
If you wanna loan me $124 I will be on all the time :D

Didn't you get your stimulus check?

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:33 PM
Didn't you get your stimulus check?

Im 18 :D

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:34 PM
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/kawaninja1/Kawasaki%20Motorcycles/bd2c10ab-c060-4f5b-b01e-c6491a63592.jpg

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:35 PM
Im 18 :D

Obama may like 18 yr old boys. :D

You might get two stimulus checks. ;)

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:35 PM
You sayin you bought one of those?

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:36 PM
If you wanna loan me $124 I will be on all the time :D

No you wont
You be trying to earn the Payment and stuff :rolleyes:

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:36 PM
Obama may like 18 yr old boys. :D

You might get two stimulus checks. ;)

I didnt get ****.

How do you get one of those?

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:36 PM
You sayin you bought one of those?

He tryin to :D

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:37 PM
I didnt get ****.

How do you get one of those?

I think you had to have been stupid with your money in the first place, that and been stupid enough to have voted for Brack. :D

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:37 PM
You sayin you bought one of those?

Long story short.

I went into the dealership with $500 and no credit and they told me to come back when I had $750 which is now $124 away and then I can ride the bad mother out.

Its only a 250r: MSRP=3999

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:38 PM
Hell, if it's only $124 a month I might get me a Ninja!

Edit...just saw your above post, so forget what I said here.

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:38 PM
I think you had to have been stupid with your money in the first place, that and been stupid enough to have voted for Brack. :D

I wasn't 18 when he was elected :D

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:39 PM
Hell, if it's only $124 a month I might get me a Ninja!

No numbnuts. :D Its 300 a month. With my credit atleast....

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:39 PM
I didnt get ****.

How do you get one of those?

Ya gots to werk and NOT be a Dependent :P

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:40 PM
No numbnuts. :D Its 300 a month. With my credit atleast....

I fixed my post after I saw your post...

...dumas! :texan:

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:41 PM
Didja Notice jaun asked Me a question ?
then when I answered he never came back ?:rolleyes:
Is he a Beanie wienie ;)

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:41 PM
Ya gots to werk and NOT be a Dependent :P

1 out of 2 :D

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 08:42 PM
jaun you asked I answered
Did you have a Point ? sides On the top of yer head ?:rolleyes:

He didn't have a point. He thought his stupid poster could side track the focal point of his original argument, and that got shot down quicker than he could log off.

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:42 PM
I fixed my post after I saw your post...

...dumas! :texan:

:D

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:42 PM
I may go look at Harleys tomorrow. I have a $2100 tax refund to do something with, and a $5,000 CD I need to cash in cause it sure isn't making much in interest...

...that, and I might as well spend my money, cause if I don't I know the donks in Wash DC will.

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:43 PM
I may go look at Harleys tomorrow. I have a $2100 tax refund to do something with, and a $5,000 CD I need to cash in cause it sure isn't making much in interest...

...that, and I might as well spend my money, cause if I don't I know the donks in Wash DC will.

Harleys are expensive as ****!

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:44 PM
Didja Notice jaun asked Me a question ?
then when I answered he never came back ?:rolleyes:
Is he a Beanie wienie ;)

Juan had a dumas moment when he thought he was gonna get ya with that poster.

Curly Bill
5/15/2009, 08:45 PM
Harleys are expensive as ****!


Had one I got rid of when the new Mustangs came out, now I don't have either. I needs me a new toy. :D

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:45 PM
Front it to me
I need a new Still and some Grow lites
Er outdoor liting :D

olevetonahill
5/15/2009, 08:46 PM
Juan had a dumas moment when he thought he was gonna get ya with that poster.

A depends Moment of the brain ?:rolleyes:

CK Sooner
5/15/2009, 08:46 PM
Had one I got rid of when the new Mustangs came out, now I don't have either. I needs me a new toy. :D

Get a GT and go crazy.

Thats what I would do if I could afford it.

CrimsonJim
5/15/2009, 08:47 PM
Juan had another dumas moment when he thought he was gonna get ya with that poster.

Fixed!