Nationally 1 in 10 Americans get FOOD STAMPS!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I guess eating is a "right", huh?

[yermom]

you'd rather they starve?

seriously, i think there are other things to worry about

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

you'd rather they starve?

seriously, i think there are other things to worry aboutYeah, well,
1)What should I worry about?
2)What do you worry about?
3)Does it mean we now have roughly 10% unemployment?

[StoopTroup]

I think it means 1 in 10 Americans are selling Rush Limbaugh their stamps.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Right to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Food...is...KIND OF...and important part of the whole LIFE thing.

:rolleyes:

But I must commend you on your VERY "Christian" outlook on this issue. I'm sure Jesus would be totally in your corner, denying food to those stupid starving people who, I'm sure, would pull themselves up by their bootstraps if they hadn't already EATEN THEM.

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[LosAngelesSooner]

I know that derned Commie Muslim, Barry Sorterro's solution:
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[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Dam*it, doesn't this thread rate the usual 1-star?

[yermom]

sorry, i forgot

[NYC Poke]

Some other stats:


According to the United States Department of Agriculture, statistics for the food stamp program are as follows:[4]

51 percent of all participants are children (17 or younger), and 65 percent of them live in single-parent households.

55 percent of food stamp households include children.

9 percent of all participants are elderly (age 60 or over).

79 percent of all benefits go to households with children, 14 percent go to households with disabled persons, and 7 percent go to households with elderly persons.

36 percent of households with children were headed by a single parent, the overwhelming majority of whom were women.

The average household size is 2.3 persons.

The average gross monthly income per food stamp household is $640.

41 percent of participants are white; 36 percent are African-American, non-Hispanic; 18 percent are Hispanic; 3 percent are Asian, 2 percent are Native American, and 1 percent are of unknown race or ethnicity.

An annual report released by the USDA about the composition of households participating in the Food Stamp Program is identified as the Characteristics Report.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Stamp_Program

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Please turn in your Bibles to 1st Rush Chapter 2 verse 1:

1 And Jesus said When someone comes to you needing food, turn them away as it is not necessary to care for those who don't have 2 But if one comes and says I have need of high-end drug recovery center for drug addiction, help them as much as possible and give them money so that perhaps they can buy more drugs 3 And Rush turned to Jesus after hearing these words and said "Jesus, what do you have in your medicine cabinet? I've got a...mmm...headache"


Amen

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Please turn in your Bibles to 1st Rush Chapter 2 verse 1:

1 And Jesus said When someone comes to you needing food, turn them away as it is not necessary to care for those who don't have 2 But if one comes and says I have need of high-end drug recovery center for drug addiction, help them as much as possible and give them money so that perhaps they can buy more drugs 3 And Rush turned to Jesus after hearing these words and said "Jesus, what do you have in your medicine cabinet? I've got a...mmm...headache"


AmenWhat did Jesus tell the federal government to do?

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Some other stats:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Stamp_Program

Mr. Blevins, I'm going to have to ask you to leave this thread and return to the Sportsblitz studios, please.

[OUHOMER]

Up until my mother move in with us last year she received food stamps. Thats right,,, she received $10.00 a month in food stamps.

She told them to keep them when she move in with us. Said maybe someone else might be able to use them.

[yermom]

Yeah, well,
1)What should I worry about?
2)What do you worry about?
3)Does it mean we now have roughly 10% unemployment?

1) the economy? outsourced jobs? China? i wonder what fraction of the "porkulous" food stamps would compare to. i'm just saying that there are lots of things we've wasted money on, i can't imagine this would rank near the top

2) not all that much, currently. keeping my job would be nice. hoping i don't need to learn Chinese in the near future.

3) having a job, sadly, doesn't always keep you from being dirt poor. i'm not sure how anyone can survive on minimum wage and no benefits. not everyone without a job can get unemployment and not everyone without a job can work one

[Frozen Sooner]

It's OK. They can totally be redeemed for cake.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

1) the economy? outsourced jobs? China? i wonder what fraction of the "porkulous" food stamps would compare to. i'm just saying that there are lots of things we've wasted money on, i can't imagine this would rank near the top

2) not all that much, currently. keeping my job would be nice. hoping i don't need to learn Chinese in the near future.

3) having a job, sadly, doesn't always keep you from being dirt poor. i'm not sure how anyone can survive on minimum wage and no benefits. not everyone without a job can get unemployment and not everyone without a job can work oneOK then, BOOMER SOONER to ya!

[stoops the eternal pimp]

What did Jesus tell the federal government to do?


Prov. 14:31

Anyone who oppresses the poor is insulting God who made them. To help the poor is to honor God.

This is David, but the Bible tells us he was a man after God's own heart


Proverbs 3:27
David told people Not to withold Good from others If you have the power to do it.


If you would like I could reference all the times Jesus talked to his disciples and others about helping the poor....And I don't think he exempted governments...

[mdklatt]

If you would like I could reference all the times Jesus talked to his disciples and others about helping the poor....And I don't think he exempted governments...

I like how most of those who shriek the loudest about the US being a Christian nation think only the Old Testament is within the government's domain.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Prov. 14:31



If you would like I could reference all the times Jesus talked to his disciples and others about helping the poor....And I DON'T THINK HE EXEMPTED GOVERNMENTS...and a lot of Christians are socialists, esp. Catholics, who believe what you believe, that social engineering is part of the govts.' job. Definitions of "helping" and "poor" are worthy of examination, too.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Ah...and RLIMC's anti-Catholicism bias rears its ugly head.

I love how Evangelicals claim that "CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until you push them...then they say "PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until you push them further...then they say "MY VERSION OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until you push them still further...then they say "MY CHURCH'S VERSION OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until you push them even further...then they say "MY PREACHER'S TEACHING REGARDING MY CHURCH'S VERSION OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until, after yet further pushing...they then say "MY FAMILY'S INTERPRETATION OF MY PREACHER'S TEACHING REGARDING MY CHURCH'S VERSION OF PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY is the only way to God!"

Until, after further pushing on beliefs and morals and opinions you have one lonely person standing in a room by his or herself cloaked only with their own feeling of moral superiority and righteous indignation at everyone else's failure to be "Good Christians," yet completely unaware of how their judgment, exclusivity and close mindedness is EXACTLY what Christ preached AGAINST. Why? Because they are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that..."MY way...is the ONLY way to God!"

And people wonder how the Republican Party was allowed to shrink and become so homogenized and exclusive and small by the Right Wing Christian movement?

*sigh*

[Frozen Sooner]

I'm not going to get caught up in a bible verse slinging fight.

I just think it's a good thing to help poor people have enough money to eat.

I recall a few years back that an E-3's gross entitlement was low enough to qualify for food stamp assistance in most states.

[Scott D]

Who knew that willie favor would get so worked up over basic necessities for life. I guess things must be pretty tough in Mexizona.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I like the new right of having the taxpayers pay for up to 9 months' car payments for the buyers of cars from the new Gubmit Motors Company. Now, there's a "right" with some real teeth.

[Curly Bill]

Rush, just give the government half your money so they can spend it on other people and quit your bitchin! ;)

[KC//CRIMSON]

quit your bitchin!

How would he ever survive?

[olevetonahill]

How would he ever survive?

On ****in food stamps
pay tention. :P

[King Crimson]

in 1972 only 15% of Americans had flown in an airplane.

[Ike]

Dear Rush,

g'head and get fired from your job, give away all your investments and then go sending off to the govt for some porkulus moulah. Start living the high life my friend. The country is going down the crapper, so you might as well start living off the government teat while you still can! You'll find that life is much more relaxing this way.

[bri]

Hey, you guys remember when Jesus took 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes from some kid and then he transmogrified it into enough food to feed over 5,000 people?

Dirty socialist.

[olevetonahill]

Hey, you guys remember when Jesus took 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes from some kid and then he transmogrified it into enough food to feed over 5,000 people?

Dirty socialist.

Ya the Kid is still bitchin .

[OUstudent4life]

Dear RLIMC...why stop at food stamps? What about all those kids that eat for free?


In Oklahoma, 28 percent of children under the age of five and 23 percent under the age of 18 live in poverty. The percentage of Oklahoma children living in poverty increased by 48 percent in 2006. Now one in every five of our children lives in poverty and is at risk of going to bed hungry.

In 2007 almost 600,000 Oklahomans lived in poverty. The poverty level in 2007 is $20,650 for a family of four.

From what I remember from a recent lecture, around 85% of kids in the OKC school district were on a school meal program...


Who can get free meals?

Children in households getting food stamps, TANF (temporary assistance for needy families), or FDPIR (food distribution program on Indian reservations), and most foster children can get free meals regardless of your income. Also, your children can get free meals if your household income is within the free limits of the Federal Income Guidelines.

Who can get reduced-price meals?

Your children can get low-cost meals if your household income is within the reduced-price limits of the Federal Income Guidelines.

Reduced-cost meal guideline: 185% of the poverty line
Free lunches: 130%


Yeah. Let's stop feeding people... 'cause hungry people are WAY more productive.

[OUDoc]

Half the world's population earns about 5% of the world's wealth.

More personal telephone calls are made on Mother's Day in the USA than on any other day in any other country.

One in ten people in the world live on an island.

In the US, murder is committed most frequently in August and least frequently in February.

The chance of being born on Leap Day is about 684 out of a million, or 1 in 1461. Less than 5 million people have their birthday on Leap Day.

The odds of being struck by lightning are about 600,000 to one.

About 27% of food in developed countries are wasted each year. It's simply thrown away.

Almost 1,2 billion people are underfed - the same number of people that are overweight to the point of obesity.

US Post Office handles 43% of the world's mail. Its nearest competitor is Japan with 6%.

[leavingthezoo]

What did Jesus tell the federal government to do?

i can't find an example of jesus telling the gubmint to do anything. only thing he really says is to the guys bitchin' about paying taxes. "give unto Caesar what is Caesars, and give unto God what is God's."

seems Jesus doesn't care about gubmint nearly as much as you'd like him to. but then... i guess that comes full circle since you don't care about the poor or hungry nearly as much as he does.

you guys are like peas and carrots, you and Jesus. and by peas and carrots, i mean oil and water.

[My Opinion Matters]

Half the world's population earns about 5% of the world's wealth.

More personal telephone calls are made on Mother's Day in the USA than on any other day in any other country.

One in ten people in the world live on an island.

In the US, murder is committed most frequently in August and least frequently in February.

The chance of being born on Leap Day is about 684 out of a million, or 1 in 1461. Less than 5 million people have their birthday on Leap Day.

The odds of being struck by lightning are about 600,000 to one.

About 27% of food in developed countries are wasted each year. It's simply thrown away.

Almost 1,2 billion people are underfed - the same number of people that are overweight to the point of obesity.

US Post Office handles 43% of the world's mail. Its nearest competitor is Japan with 6%.


Academic elitist.

[OUDoc]

Academic elitist.
Nah, accomplished Googlist.

[JohnnyMack]

Hey, you guys remember when Jesus took 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes from some kid and then he transmogrified it into enough food to feed over 5,000 people?

Dirty socialist.

I will say that there is a part of this country that thinks social services like that do belong exclusively to the church/family/private industry and that the Federal Government has no business getting involved in such matters.

[JohnnyMack]

This article is sorta along the lines of what we're talking about:

http://cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10107

[mdklatt]

This article is sorta along the lines of what we're talking about:

http://cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10107

I could be wrong, but at least the Cato Institute isn't going around demanding that the US government abide by "biblical principles" and then picking and choosing which ones can be ignored (conveniently, the ones which have a negative impact on the person making those demands).

[JohnnyMack]

I could be wrong, but at least the Cato Institute isn't going around demanding that the US government abide by "biblical principles" and then picking and choosing which ones can be ignored (conveniently, the ones which have a negative impact on the person making those demands).

Is that what he was talking about? You should know I don't actually read his posts. :D

[TopDawg]

I will say that there is a part of this country that thinks social services like that do belong exclusively to the church/family/private industry and that the Federal Government has no business getting involved in such matters.

Personally, I feel that if everyone who attends church on Easter (myself included) actually lived up to the call of Jesus, the government wouldn't need to get involved in such matters. Certainly not to the extent that it currently is.

[TopDawg]

Is your username asteriskisized because of the UT Big 12 Championship thing?

[yermom]

JohnnyMack

[yermom]

Johnny***Mack***

heh

[TopDawg]

I didn't know those things would also slip into the username realm.

[yermom]

there were doing it briefly for "UT" but i think it was breaking things like "bUTton" in the page rendering ;)

[JohnnyMack]

I'm wondering if my Mack status is under review.

[TopDawg]

Heh...it did it with location too. But I don't want my location to say "Mack" or "*Mack*" so I'm just leaving it blank.

[olevetonahill]

Is your username asteriskisized because of the UT Big 12 Championship thing?

Why I told him earlier he was an "Assterick" :D

[JLEW1818]

People should not be required to help the poor.

I do though.

That's my view on it.

[StoopTroup]

OK Clone...I'll explain my post....

Rush buys up all the food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so the 1 in 10 folks can go buys Cigs, Beer, crack...whatever...

Rush then goes to the store and buys steaks. Rush then has his lover/chef/boyfriend cook up dinner prior to their all night love making.

Hope that helps.

[Scott D]

OK Clone...I'll explain my post....

Rush buys up all the food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so the 1 in 10 folks can go buys Cigs, Beer, crack...whatever...

Rush then goes to the store and buys steaks. Rush then has his lover/chef/boyfriend cook up dinner prior to their all night love making.

Hope that helps.

gee thanks, that'll get him to whine to a mod now. ;)

[SouthFortySooner]

The bible does speak expressly on this subject. It says if a man doesn't work he doesn't eat.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

OK Clone...I'll explain my post....

Rush buys up all the food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar so the 1 in 10 folks can go buys Cigs, Beer, crack...whatever...

Rush then goes to the store and buys steaks. Rush then has his lover/chef/boyfriend cook up dinner prior to their all night love making.

Hope that helps.Well, it makes even less sense than what I originally thought you might mean, and I already forgot what that was. This should help...a lot: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-klavan29-2009mar29,0,5456892.story

[tommieharris91]

Rush is as anti-American as al-Qaeda. Why should I listen to him?

[soonerscuba]

Few things are sadder than a grown man engaging in hero worship.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The Gang of Ignore is on the move. Nothing brings them out like the mention of my clone's name.

[King Crimson]

So, is that a really weak play on words to reference the Gang of Four?

if I listen to Limbaugh today am I going to hear that phrase?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

So, is that a really weak play on words to reference the Gang of Four?

if I listen to Limbaugh today am I going to hear that phrase?http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-klavan29-2009mar29,0,5456892.story

[stoops the eternal pimp]

If you listen to Limbaugh today, your IQ may drop

[King Crimson]

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-klavan29-2009mar29,0,5456892.story

You know this, and I've cited specific show content to prove it many times over the years. I listen to Rush about 2 times every 3 weeks. So, save the righteous "you don't really know" angle.

[StoopTroup]

The other day I had to listen to some guy with a British Accent tell us why we're all idiots. That really got me listening the rest of the week.

Lazy bastard is getting others to try and support him.

[StoopTroup]

Well, it makes even less sense than what I originally thought you might mean, and I already forgot what that was. This should help...a lot: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-klavan29-2009mar29,0,5456892.story

The guy does exactly what he states he hates others are doing.

It's all double-talk.

He's a master of it. Debates don't always have a positive effect on things. They are just a fight to the death with words...winner take all. No middle ground. Definitely not good politics.

[King Crimson]

The guy does exactly what he states he hates others are doing.


yup, still about all you need to know about politics:

"Accuse your enemies of what you do"--Machiavelli

[Frozen Sooner]

The bible does speak expressly on this subject. It says if a man doesn't work he doesn't eat.

Not all people on food stamps are unemployed.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

yup, still about all you need to know about politics:

"Accuse your enemies of what you do"--MachiavelliHaha, nobody does it any better than the American Left. And, they are very successful at Personal Destruction. You know that. What an old and tiresome conversation.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You know this, and I've cited specific show content to prove it many times over the years. I listen to Rush about 2 times every 3 weeks. So, save the righteous "you don't really know" angle.The intent, as you prolly know but only want to attack, is to listen to My Clone today, so your question can be answered.

[King Crimson]

the thing is: you and the LA Times author seems to think if someone disagrees with Rush....the only explanation is "they don't get it", can't think for themselves because of the Iron Cage of the MSM's "distortion mongers", or they are lefty anti-american wackos (now called socialists in Rush's latest ideological gambit which is based on goofy nostalgia for some past America conceived as an entrepreneurial Utopia without unions or exploitation--Adam Smith done by Disney).

not everyone thinks "make a negative assertion based on a set of platitudes dressed up like American political philosophy and then blame someone else for it" makes for convincing political argumentation. and that goes to both parties.

[King Crimson]

What an old and tiresome conversation.

a category you are intimate with and expert, no doubt. :D

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

a category you are intimate with and expert, no doubt. :DSo, have you heard mention of "Gang of" anything?:cry:

[StoopTroup]

I'm definitely not a liberal. Definitely not a Conservative either. Matter of fact...I think most people don't want to view themselves or even put themselves into a certain label.

It's guys like Rush and I guess you...who continue to lump people into a category.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Dude has (very recently)joined the G of I.

[JohnnyMack]

I'm definitely not a liberal. Definitely not a Conservative either. Matter of fact...I think most people don't want to view themselves or even put themselves into a certain label.

It's guys like Rush and I guess you...who continue to lump people into a category.

They need a dichotomy to remain relevant.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

They need a dichotomy to remain relevant.Oh no you don't, Johnny Mack!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1mzpbv1rcw

[TopDawg]

yup, still about all you need to know about politics:

"Accuse your enemies of what you do"--Machiavelli

you made me think of this (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=223862&title=baracknophobia-obey)

[Frozen Sooner]

What I find curious about this thread, by the way, is that the original poster has not forwarded an opinion about the presented fact.

It could very well be that RLIMC thinks that this statistic shows the widening gap between the classes in our nation. It could be that he thinks too many people qualify for food stamps. We just don't know from the information present.

Me, when I hear that 1 in 10 people are on food stamps, it makes me think "Wow, the economy is kind of in the ****ter. I'm glad we have these programs or people would likely be starving in the streets."

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What I find curious about this thread, by the way, is that the original poster has not forwarded an opinion about the presented fact.

It could very well be that RLIMC thinks that this statistic shows the widening gap between the classes in our nation. It could be that he thinks too many people qualify for food stamps. We just don't know from the information present.

Me, when I hear that 1 in 10 people are on food stamps, it makes me think "Wow, the economy is kind of in the ****ter. I'm glad we have these programs or people would likely be starving in the streets."A warm, friendly post! You're having a good day? (Froze is usually cordial with me, even though we disagree on lots of things)I have always believed in govt. welfare for those truly incapable of making a living.

[yermom]

the thing is: you and the LA Times author seems to think if someone disagrees with Rush....the only explanation is "they don't get it", can't think for themselves because of the Iron Cage of the MSM's "distortion mongers", or they are lefty anti-american wackos (now called socialists in Rush's latest ideological gambit which is based on goofy nostalgia for some past America conceived as an entrepreneurial Utopia without unions or exploitation--Adam Smith done by Disney).

not everyone thinks "make a negative assertion based on a set of platitudes dressed up like American political philosophy and then blame someone else for it" makes for convincing political argumentation. and that goes to both parties.


The mainstream media (a.k.a. the Matrix) don't want you to listen to Limbaugh because they're afraid he'll wake you up and set you free of their worldview.

nut.
job.

[KC//CRIMSON]

The Gang of Ignore is on the move. Nothing brings them out like the mention of my clone's name.


The ignore feature is for cowards....

[Scott D]

that article was refreshing....That guy has a great career ahead of him in unintentional comedy.

[Frozen Sooner]

A warm, friendly post! You're having a good day? (Froze is usually cordial with me, even though we disagree on lots of things)I have always believed in govt. welfare for those truly incapable of making a living.

Never had a bad day in my life, man.

But yeah, the sun is shining, the snow is melting, and I only have 50-odd work days to go until I'm back in school. Things are good.

[C&CDean]

Alls I can say is this:

My sister is a fat pig. She's on food stamps, welfare, SS, and all the other handout programs. She is capable of finding a decent job. She chooses to be a fat pig on handouts because it's easier than working hard.

Not that I'm backing the Rush humper, I'm just saying I'm sure my sister isn't the only "1 in 10" who is abusing the system. If we gave the benefits to the TRULY needy, that number would probably be closer to 1 in 5?

[Frozen Sooner]

I think you went the wrong way on that number there Dean-o.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

But there again, you have lots of senior citizens who really need the help who can't get FS...I know of a lady who is 70 years old working at wal mart who should be able to get them but can't..

I'm not sure, but probably the people who abuse it and the people who should be able to get them but can't balance out..

[TopDawg]

I think welfare programs could definitely benefit from the creation and oversight of some better guidelines and whatnot. In the meantime, I'd rather err on the side of having guidelines that allow some people to abuse the system than having guidelines that keep (more*) people who need it out of it.

*as stoops tep pointed out

[Frozen Sooner]

But there again, you have lots of senior citizens who really need the help who can't get FS.

Nobody gets FS but his woman...

[King Crimson]

Nobody gets FS but his woman...

pretty good one Froz.

[Frozen Sooner]

pretty good one Froz.

Can you dig it?

[yermom]

I think you went the wrong way on that number there Dean-o.

Math just threw up in its mouth a little.

:D

[C&CDean]

It's common knowledge that I suck at the higher math.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

your an excellent cook however...and while I can do the higher math, I am still neanderthal man in the kitchen

[OUDoc]

Unfortunately, people abuse any system they can. I've seen the simple notion of "take a penny, leave a penny" turned into one guy taking about 50 cents out of the thing to pay for his smokes. It's human nature for some people to be pieces of **** and I don't think we will ever change that.

[C&CDean]

your an excellent cook however...and while I can do the higher math, I am still neanderthal man in the kitchen

Cook? Kitchen? You obviously have me mixed up with Mrs. Dean. I do stir the chili sometimes, and grills the burgers and such, but a kitchen is to Dean as a man's anus is to Dean. Homey don't go there.

[JohnnyMack]

a kitchen is to Dean as a man's anus is to Dean. Homey don't go there.

Although if he got enough likker in him at a tailgate that's not to say he wouldn't try.

[Frozen Sooner]

Heh. Like a daschund trying to hump a St. Bernard.

[TopDawg]

Me, when I hear that 1 in 10 people are on food stamps, it makes me think "Wow, the economy is kind of in the ****ter. I'm glad we have these programs or people would likely be starving in the streets."

I like the point you make in this post, Froz. I was trying to figure out how to put into words what I heard when I read the original post. It was something along the lines of how I was surprised it was that high. The ratio among people I know is nowhere near 1 in 10, which means that in other parts of the country (and even Norman) it must be much higher than 1 in 10. There's a big disconnect there which gets back to my previous post. (http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2601886&postcount=40) Anyway, as you can see, I'm clumsily making my point. But I read this in a book this weekend which puts it a little better.


I asked participants who claimed to be "strong followers of Jesus" whether Jesus spent time with the poor. Nearly 80 percent said yes. Later in the survey, I sneaked in another question, I asked this same group of strong followers whether they spent time with the poor, and less than 2 percent said they did. I learned a powerful lesson: We can admire and worship Jesus without doing what he did. We can applaud what he preached and stood for without caring about the same things. We can adore his cross without taking up ours. I had come to see that the great tragedy of the church is not that rich Christians do not care about the poor but that rich Christians do not know the poor.

I wouldn't consider myself a particularly rich Christian, but the point remains.

[theresonly1OU]

Can you dig it?

Sho' nuff.