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JohnnyMack
4/2/2009, 10:16 PM
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/04/jury-colo-professor-wrongly-fired-for-critical-911-essay.html

Free Speech wins!

Sooner98
4/2/2009, 11:02 PM
"We deserved 9/11" FTW!!

soonerscuba
4/2/2009, 11:42 PM
Churchill didn't deserve to be fired for the 9/11 essay, but certainly deserved to be fired for fabricating sources in his other work which includes claiming John Smith waged biological warfare against the Native Americans in 1614. I've read the essay and it doesn't say we deserved 9/11, it's thesis is that due to US military involvement in Mid-East during the 90s under Clinton and Bush one could make the argument that 9/11 wasn't the opening attack of war when the US had been bombing Iraq for a decade. It also makes the arguments that Americans wildly cheering the operations in Iraq weren't radically different than Germans cheering on the siege of Russia. I don't agree with it and it uses a lot radical hyperbole, but at least represent the essay right.

Okla-homey
4/3/2009, 06:03 AM
Churchill is a POS. Unfortunately in this case, legally, employers aren't allowed to use stuff they discover post-termination as additional justification for an otherwise wrongful termination.

One of the things most despicable about the d00d is he falsely and fraudulently claimed to be Indian. You'll note in the linked photo, he's still sporting a ponytail and sportcoat with Pendelton blanket accents. White boy Indian wannabe poseur.

Turd_Ferguson
4/3/2009, 07:13 AM
Churchill is a POS. Unfortunately in this case, legally, employers aren't allowed to use stuff they discover post-termination as additional justification for an otherwise wrongful termination.

One of the things most despicable about the d00d is he falsely and fraudulently claimed to be Indian. You'll note in the linked photo, he's still sporting a ponytail and sportcoat with Pendelton blanket accents. White boy Indian wannabe poseur.If it's one thing I can't stand, it's a Whindian.:mad:

SoonerTroll
4/3/2009, 07:54 AM
I read a few of his books back in my younger, dumber, liberal days... I guess he can right what he wants, theres enough young college kids to buy his books and take them as absolute truth for him to make money.

OklahomaTuba
4/3/2009, 08:49 AM
Hope he enjoys that one dollar.

OhU1
4/3/2009, 08:58 AM
Churchill is a POS fake Indian. Turd Furgeson taught me a new word: "Windian". I like it. I bet Churchill's great grandmother was a "Cherokee princess".

There is a common myth in the African American community about widespread Indian ancestry as well. A fascinating show "African American Lives" by Professor Henry Louis Gates did a genetic analysis of Maya Angelou, Bliss Broyard, Don Cheadle, Morgan Freeman, Peter Gomes, Kathleen Henderson, Linda Johnson Rice, Tom Joyner, Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Chris Rock and Tina Turner. Virtually every person named above believed that they had a "great grandmother" or other relative who was Native American. The DNA analysis showed there was virtually no Indian blood in any of the persons studied. Interestingly enough the DNA analysis showed a minimum of 20% and higher European genetic heritage.

I would highly recommend this program if you can catch it. Very well done, compelling, and touching. Kind of like a more modern "Roots" with a scientific basis.
http://www.pbs.org/previews/aalives2

JohnnyMack
4/3/2009, 09:48 AM
I don't really give a **** what the guy says, I'm just glad he won.

BudSooner
4/3/2009, 10:25 AM
I don't really give a **** what the guy says, I'm just glad he won.
So, you would have no problem with this guy educating your kids? :rolleyes:

I have a family member who died as a victim on 9/11, I DO give a ****.:mad:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/cfburling3.htm

Charles was my 2nd cousin.

Jerk
4/3/2009, 10:31 AM
F*ck that pos motherf**er

He should be sat on fire and thrown off a building.

JohnnyMack
4/3/2009, 10:38 AM
F*ck that pos motherf**er

He should be sat on fire and thrown off a building.

So we should protect your constitutional right to bear arms but not his constitutional rights to free speech? Got it. Cool.

Tulsa_Fireman
4/3/2009, 10:59 AM
But it's not free speech without consequences. Free to say it, but not free from the whiplash of you exercising that freedom.

Just like we have the right to call ol' Wang Chachfeel a flaming doosh.

JohnnyMack
4/3/2009, 11:25 AM
But it's not free speech without consequences. Free to say it, but not free from the whiplash of you exercising that freedom.

Just like we have the right to call ol' Wang Chachfeel a flaming doosh.

I don't disagree with anything you've said.

picasso
4/3/2009, 02:13 PM
fake indian.

Frozen Sooner
4/3/2009, 02:53 PM
fake indian.

Sorta like Shania Twain.

Then again, I'd much rather wake up next to her than him.

Tulsa_Fireman
4/3/2009, 02:55 PM
Point being, they both suck ****.

Condescending Sooner
4/3/2009, 03:22 PM
I don't really give a **** what the guy says, I'm just glad he won.

Hey genius, do you think if you went around spreading a bunch of lies and making outrageous statements about your employer, they don't have the right to fire you?

JohnnyMack
4/3/2009, 04:01 PM
Hey genius, do you think if you went around spreading a bunch of lies and making outrageous statements about your employer, they don't have the right to fire you?

It is my opinion (as well as the jury who heard the case) that he wasn't fired for the reasons you listed. Many people feel he was fired because of his incendiary comments about 09/11. I have read the essay in question and think it offers an interesting, if one-sided evaluation of the events leading up to September 11th.

picasso
4/3/2009, 04:19 PM
Sorta like Shania Twain.

Then again, I'd much rather wake up next to her than him.

I disagree. her stepfather was native and she actually lived on a reservation and performed at a tribal establishment.

Churchill guy just plain played wannabe.

Frozen Sooner
4/3/2009, 04:23 PM
I disagree. her stepfather was native and she actually lived on a reservation and performed at a tribal establishment.

Churchill guy just plain played wannabe.

So what's her quantum again? ;)

Veritas
4/3/2009, 04:32 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/04/03/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4916473.shtml

Retarded jurors win!

1890MilesToNorman
4/3/2009, 04:38 PM
Is this another thread in favor of evolution?

picasso
4/3/2009, 04:42 PM
So what's her quantum again? ;)

right but did she actually ever claim to be native?:D

Frozen Sooner
4/3/2009, 04:46 PM
She did fairly briefly at the beginning of her career. It was kind of a big deal among natives up here when it came out that she had no NA derivation.

At least that's what I've been told. I'm not particularly interested in what race people claim to be unless they're attempting to grab benefits they're not entitled to (like BIA health care or whatever.) Hell, tell people you're half doberman and half Pitcairn Islander for all I care. :D

picasso
4/3/2009, 04:49 PM
yeah I kind of remember that. sheesh, some of these native types are so militant. she more or less gave up her early career to take care of her siblings who are native as I recall.

Condescending Sooner
4/3/2009, 05:09 PM
It is my opinion (as well as the jury who heard the case) that he wasn't fired for the reasons you listed. Many people feel he was fired because of his incendiary comments about 09/11. I have read the essay in question and think it offers an interesting, if one-sided evaluation of the events leading up to September 11th.

Right, and if I went to the press with a bunch of indendiary, insensitive, and downright idiotic statements, I would be fired. I wouldn't be surprised and damn sure wouldn't file a lawsuit.

theresonly1OU
4/5/2009, 12:51 AM
So we should protect your constitutional right to bear arms but not his constitutional rights to free speech? Got it. Cool.

Churchill was fired because he was a POS thief (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/9424240/detail.html)

Me, I could give a **** what some pathetic washed up ex-hippy says to get attention that he can't garner with traditional academic success. But when the same loser commits academic fraud by stealing the work of a fellow professor and passes the work off as his own, then he deserves everything he received.

StoopTroup
4/5/2009, 01:12 AM
I've seen many a Windian while at casinos.

Crucifax Autumn
4/5/2009, 02:35 AM
Hell man...I've seen plenty an everything at those places. Last one I was at had may more crooked hat wiggers than windians!

And no matter the pseudo race, there were more fat people and powerchairs per-capita than the general population!