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Flagstaffsooner
3/7/2009, 01:58 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/937096.html



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Posted on Fri, Mar. 06, 2009
Florida State University gets 4 years' probation in cheating scandal

BY JEFF SHAIN AND IRA SCHOFFEL
Ten Florida State sports could see up to two seasons' worth of victories wiped out -- including up to 14 for football legend Bobby Bowden -- after an NCAA committee handed down new penalties Friday in the school's academic cheating scandal.
The Seminoles' 2007 NCAA men's track championship also could be vacated, though more time will be needed to determine when any of 61 ineligible athletes got onto the field or court.
FSU officials quickly sought clarification as to exactly when athletes must be considered ineligible and indicated that an appeal may follow.
''We just don't understand the sanction to vacate all wins in athletics contests in which ineligible student-athletes competed,'' FSU president T.K. Wetherell said in a statement.
``We did not allow anyone who we knew was ineligible to compete. Our position throughout the inquiry was that as soon as we knew of a problem, they didn't play.''
NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn said the athletes became ineligible as soon as they received an improper benefit. FSU has 15 days in which to initiate an appeal.
Athletes admitted receiving answers to an online exam in a music history course and letting staffers type papers for them. The scandal spread over three semesters from fall 2006 to summer 2007.
The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions also ordered additional scholarship cuts in football and three other sports in a 24-page ruling that ended seven months of limbo.
FSU already had given up five football scholarships and five in other sports in self-imposed penalties submitted to the NCAA last September.
Even so, the committee recommended the additional sanctions for ''extremely serious'' violations, including unethical conduct and failure to monitor.
Bowden, 79, the Hall of Fame coach whose 382 career victories trails Penn State's Joe Paterno by one in the race for the major-college record, was not available for comment.
A university spokesperson said Bowden was leaving for a cruise he takes each year before spring practice opens.
Wins recorded between August 2006 and January 2008 fall under the review timeline. The ruling also involves men's and women's basketball, men's and women's track, men's and women's swimming, baseball, softball, and men's golf.
It may be some time, though, before the Seminoles know exactly how many victories will be lost in each sport. Vacated wins do not affect opponents' records.
''The institution will have to identify which student-athletes participated while ineligible,'' said Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference commissioner Dennis Thomas, acting chair of the infractions committee.
``Once the institution identifies the student-athletes who played during that period, then obviously a vacation of those records will be done.''
Under the NCAA's interpretation, seven football wins almost certainly would be wiped out. The Seminoles left 30 players home from the 2007 Music City Bowl, many undoubtedly tied to the scandal.
FSU also went 7-6 in 2006, and those also would be subject to review, even though the scandal was not revealed until the following summer.
That question -- as it affects all sports -- forms the crux of FSU's potential appeal.
''Some of our student-athletes engaged in academic misconduct -- and we will suffer the consequences -- but I believe vacating wins is just wrong,'' said athletic director Randy Spetman, who came to FSU as part of sweeping changes to the athletic department after the scandal broke.
Thomas said the committee did not consider how the punishment might affect Bowden and Paterno.
''The committee does not get into whether you have a famous athlete or a famous coach's record involved,'' Thomas said.
In harsh tones, the NCAA rebuked the university for both the scope of the academic fraud and the involvement of staff members. ''Academic fraud is among the most egregious of NCAA violations,'' the committee stated in its findings. FSU learning specialist Dr. Brenda Monk and academic advisor Hillard Goldsmith were charged with committing NCAA violations. Neither works for the university.

Wishboned
3/7/2009, 05:15 AM
Even though I hate FSU I still think forcing a team to vacate wins is a stupid policy.

Flagstaffsooner
3/7/2009, 08:11 AM
"But they're good kids"

Harry Beanbag
3/7/2009, 10:45 AM
I guess Booby can go ahead and retire, he'll never catch Joe Paterno now.

Flagstaffsooner
3/7/2009, 10:55 AM
Me wonders why you have to cheat on Music History. They must have some dumb mo-fo's there. I guess Rap was not included in that class.

Leroy Lizard
3/7/2009, 12:20 PM
''We just don't understand the sanction to vacate all wins in athletics contests in which ineligible student-athletes competed,'' FSU president T.K. Wetherell said in a statement.

Oh, he'll get a lot of sympathy around here I bet. :)

The Remnant
3/7/2009, 04:43 PM
Florida State should just change the name of their university to USC and all would be forgiven.

Dan Thompson
3/7/2009, 07:17 PM
When I first heard this story, I did not hear the "State". I only heard FLORIDA.

That was a shock to say the least.

olevetonahill
3/7/2009, 07:32 PM
Speakin of USC . Every School should tell the NCAA to kiss a big one . until they deal with that R, Bush carp at USC. :mad: :mad:

BudSooner
3/9/2009, 11:53 AM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-floridast-cheating&prov=ap&type=lgns


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP)—Florida State may have to forfeit some of coach Bobby Bowden’s 382 wins and will be on probation for the next four years as part of its punishment for a widespread academic cheating scandal. The Seminoles will have to give up two scholarships this recruiting season and one the following year. Other sports will lose scholarships and have victories—including three NCAA national championships in track and field— threatened.
The NCAA said 61 Florida State athletes cheated on an online test from the fall of 2006 through summer 2007 or received improper help from staffers who provided them with answers to the exam and typed papers for them.
The NCAA said the school must vacate all wins in contests in which athletes involved in the cheating participated. That could involve up to 14 football victories.


Wow.



The cheating took place in football, baseball, softball, men’s and women’s basketball, men’s and women’s swimming, men’s and women’s track and field and men’s golf.


What, no curling/foosball/ping pong/chess? They had almost every other competition covered why not investigate the others? :D

Theskipster
3/9/2009, 12:18 PM
It is a very very light slap considering how widespread and institutionalized the cheating was.

USC is dancing a jig with this evidence of how neutered the NCAA Committee on Infractions has become.

JLEW1818
3/9/2009, 12:48 PM
So Joe just gained some wins on him

sooner94
3/9/2009, 12:55 PM
So Joe just gained some wins on him

Ha! You are right. Bowden may retire now. I think one of the reasons he keeps going is to try to have the all-time wins record over Paterno (same reason Paterno is still going).

olevetonahill
3/9/2009, 01:00 PM
Deja Vu all over again ? :P

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129827

BudSooner
3/9/2009, 01:29 PM
Speakin of USC . Every School should tell the NCAA to kiss a big one . until they deal with that R, Bush carp at USC. :mad: :mad:
Ain't gonna happen brotha...never.

It ain't what ya know, it's who ya blow...and Reggie has had his lips puckered for the last 6yrs.

And keeps going, and going, and going, and going......

BudSooner
3/9/2009, 01:30 PM
Deja Vu all over again ? :P

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129827

Uh, merge? :D
I looked and didn't see this, perhaps it's time to start drinking more heavily.

olevetonahill
3/10/2009, 06:22 PM
Uh, merge? :D
I looked and didn't see this, perhaps it's time to start drinking more heavily.

:D :P

Jdog
3/10/2009, 10:35 PM
Speakin of USC . Every School should tell the NCAA to kiss a big one . until they deal with that R, Bush carp at USC. :mad: :mad:

NCAA is USuC's beotch.......

MamaMia
3/14/2009, 08:24 AM
Must be nice for FSU to be able to spend extra time in the gym and watching game film while our athletes are all having to study.

They deserve to be nailed. Now... what, if anything, is going on with USC?

Leroy Lizard
3/14/2009, 02:16 PM
What FSU needs to do is to send a letter to the NCAA, disclosing that the parents of one of their athletes was given free rent.

I am not sure the NCAA would know what to do in that situation.