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King Crimson
3/6/2009, 08:31 PM
what's the name of the shooter/scorer from ISU who averaged about 25 ppg. i think the highest ppg in the Big 8 history....early 90's, Johnny Orr teams.

i can't think of it....04? You know who i'm talking about. anyone.
Frozen Sooner
3/6/2009, 08:49 PM
Fred Hoiberg?
King Crimson
3/6/2009, 08:55 PM
Fred Hoiberg?

not Hoiberg. i've googled all kinds of stupid stuff.....it's on the tip of my tongue i can't remember it.
King Crimson
3/6/2009, 09:00 PM
Jeff Grayer. serious baller.

wow, what a relief.
Frozen Sooner
3/6/2009, 09:47 PM
I thought Mitch Richmond was the all-time Big 8 leading scorer (only because Wilt played in the Big 7)
King Crimson
3/6/2009, 09:52 PM
I thought Mitch Richmond was the all-time Big 8 leading scorer (only because Wilt played in the Big 7)

Grayer avg'd about 25 a game. Richmond was a helluva player and in all the "Danny and the Miracles" (spit) nonsense, people forget KSU was in the Elite Eight (TM), as we have been taught to say.

still a fan of the two toned purple unis.

I think Grayer has the best ppg avg in the Big 8. 25 is a lot. for every game he's got 15, there's one that's 35.
Sooner04
3/6/2009, 11:53 PM
Grayer was a stud. Did a little research and found out he averaged 25.3 points a game for the Cyclones in '88. That's pretty stout. I think Stacey averaged 26 a year later.

Iowa State has always been able to attract stud players, they just never have too many of them. Seem to always be spread out.
NCSooner18
3/7/2009, 11:41 AM
I guess it wasn't Hercle Ivey.
King Crimson
3/7/2009, 12:37 PM
I guess it wasn't Hercle Ivey.

not Lafester Rhodes, either.
Salt City Sooner
3/7/2009, 02:31 PM
Richmond was a JUCO. He played at Moberly (MO) his first 2 years where he happened to make it up here for the tourney his soph. year, so I got a sneak preview of his game. Oh, & FWIW, both he & Tyrone Jones made the all-tourney team that year.
IGotNoTiming
3/7/2009, 06:52 PM
You thinking of Marcus Fizer? Great dominant college player but never dialed it up in the pros they way many experts thought he would...
Rock Hard Corn Frog
3/7/2009, 09:51 PM
Not Julian Michalik (sp)/
King Crimson
3/7/2009, 10:19 PM
Jeff Grayer is who i was thinking of.