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badger
3/6/2009, 10:52 AM
I've decided this thread is a bad idea. Please let it drop the bottom and die. Thanks!

85Sooner
3/6/2009, 11:27 AM
Here is some for the lawmakers. Take a long walk off a short bridge.

As of now 10% of the American population is on food stamps.

50k people are whining (protesting) budget (freebee) cuts in NYC telling the ones who have money that they need to pay for their sorry asses, which will probably happen until they drain those folks out.

LA more worried about overturning the vote of the people AGAIN regarding letting gays marry while being careful not to cuss rather than look at their black hole of a government.

Gun sales and target range visits at an all time high.

Shortage of amunition due to the rush to get it before the taxation on ammo goes through the roof.

Bailouts of companies that have no hope of ever recovering.

IMO The blood letting is going to get much worse.

texas bandman
3/6/2009, 11:35 AM
I was a beginning teacher in 1983. I don't remember that as being a really hard time, but I had a job. Now 1973-74 when both my parent's were unemployed was the worst time in my life. Unemployment numbers don't phase people until it affects them personally.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 12:12 PM
THAT DA*N BUSH!

NormanPride
3/6/2009, 12:51 PM
Shut up, Rush. Good Lord.

Penguin
3/6/2009, 12:56 PM
South Oval, I'd really like your thoughts - advice for the unemployed, the still employed, the employers, the lawmakers, anything.

All I can say is that if you are unemployed because of a layoff or company going under (IOW, unemployed through no fault of your own), you need to apply for unemployment benefits. Don't get excited. In Texas, full unemployment benefits is 23% of your average paycheck of the last 18 months. Get used to not having medical insurance. People like to talk about the temporary COBRA insurance, but you have to pay the full premium. That's around $300/month for just an individual. So, it's no surprise that only 9% of the people on unemployment get the COBRA insurance.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 01:00 PM
Shut up, Rush. Good Lord.and you are the platoon leader around here, or just what is your position of authority to tell people to shut up?

yermom
3/6/2009, 01:03 PM
you add nothing to the conversation with comments like the above

too bad there isn't a board here: http://www.rushfans.com/

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 01:06 PM
you add nothing to the conversation with comments like the above

too bad there isn't a board here: http://www.rushfans.com/I can appreciate you Obama voters going through "sticker shock". It's just amazing you didn't figure it out BEFORE the erection.

KC//CRIMSON
3/6/2009, 01:08 PM
THAT DA*N BUSH!


Smartest thing you've said, well, ever.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 01:11 PM
600,000 jobs lost last month!

tommieharris91
3/6/2009, 01:11 PM
I can appreciate you Obama voters going through "sticker shock". It's just amazing you didn't figure it out BEFORE the erection.

And since unemployment numbers are usually a BACKWARD looking economic indicator, how does this have to do with what Obama has done while in office?

Also, did you have the same responses while Bush was in office and unemployment rose?

Then again, your clone is about as American as Osama Bin Laden.

KC//CRIMSON
3/6/2009, 01:12 PM
I HOPE HE FAILS!!

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 01:17 PM
The Gang of Ignore is showing up. Here, take this Hot Button and run with it. haha

tommieharris91
3/6/2009, 01:18 PM
This is why RLIMC should just leave the board.

KC//CRIMSON
3/6/2009, 01:26 PM
See? This is what happens when you're duped into believing you're relevant.

NormanPride
3/6/2009, 01:47 PM
The Gang of Ignore is showing up. Here, take this Hot Button and run with it. haha

There are plenty of threads out there that debate what you want to harp on, and you don't need to drag every thread down into that endless abyss of trolling and asshattery.

I feel bad that I've helped you accomplish your goal of derailing this thread, so I'm putting you on ignore.

badger
3/6/2009, 02:04 PM
Meh, I've had threads derail before. However, I won't take the "shut up" approach but kindly in a civil manner ask that the blame game not be the first resort, whether your hate Bush or hate Obama, or just hate Repub's or Dem's in general.

Now's not the time for blame. Now's the time for solutions.

Collier11
3/6/2009, 02:22 PM
Its pretty simply actually, bad decisions and irresponsibility caused this, bad decisions and irresponsibility are making it worse...its an endless cycle of jack assery in Washington and we all pay the price for it

tommieharris91
3/6/2009, 02:27 PM
Its pretty simply actually, bad decisions and irresponsibility caused this, bad decisions and irresponsibility are making it worse...its an endless cycle of jack assery in Washington and we all pay the price for it
Acutally the jackassery was on Wall Street.

Collier11
3/6/2009, 02:29 PM
Whose pockets do you think Wall Streets hands were in or visa versa?

tommieharris91
3/6/2009, 03:05 PM
Whose pockets do you think Wall Streets hands were in or visa versa?

Each other's. AIG was a hedge fund attached to a giant insurance company. Many banks were much too leveraged for their own good. The market started it's huge downward slide when Lehman Brothers went kaboom.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 03:18 PM
There are plenty of threads out there that debate what you want to harp on, and you don't need to drag every thread down into that endless abyss of trolling and asshattery.

I feel bad that I've helped you accomplish your goal of derailing this thread, so I'm putting you on ignore.Good for us all. If you don't think this thread is about Democrats and their behavior, you are very sadly mistaken.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
3/6/2009, 03:21 PM
If the Democrats would suddenly decide capitalism is the key to a prospering economy and hence lower taxes of all kinds, then there's your solution, NP.(somebody might want to tell him about that)

Whet
3/6/2009, 04:00 PM
How to deal with unemployment, either currently or possibly in the near term?

Scrimp and save what money you have. Don't buy anything except food, utilities, and fuel. No new clothes, new cars, new appliances, cut off all but basic cable, telephone and internet. Stop newspapers, don't donate money to any cause, shop frugally, and don't eat/drink out. Get rid of those credit cards!!!

Unfortunately, there is no near term positive outlook on the creation of new jobs. There will continue to be more job losses for quite some time. So, that job a McDonalds or WalMart may not be so bad....

Again, RLIMC was correct when he stated there will not be a turn-around with the mindset of the current leaders in Congress and White House. Excessive government spending does not grow the economy - as witnessed by the FDR experiment in the 30's-40's.

For more information on the dire outlook of the economy and the direction it is headed, I suggest reading the following links:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGJ_.gr_awkY

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/03/the_search_for_an_economic_pol.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629969453946717.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/03/a_dishonest_gimmicky_budget.html

http://www.newsweek.com/id/187705

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/229phwys.asp

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/215bpfvr.asp

http://blogs.forbes.com/digitalrules/2009/03/twofront-war-against-obamanomics.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629779856246193.html

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:01 PM
Of course! RLIMC has all the answers! How stupid of Obama not to appoint him to his staff! The economy would have done a 180 by now if only this genius were in the White House.

****ing stupid left-leaning people, if it weren't for them and their differing opinions, we'd all be living in a utopian society by now.

All current problems are the fault of the Obama administration. Never mind that he's only been in office for two months. All problems are his fault retroactively, simply because he ran for office.

Only the Democrats (read: communists, socialists, or the ever-so-brilliant oxymoron... commie nazis :rolleyes:) contributed to this current mess. Not a single republican had anything to do with it, NOT ONE.

Collier11
3/6/2009, 04:08 PM
way to overreact there, the current problems arent necessarily his fault but he is making them worse with some of his stupid decisions...and dont be so sensitive, GW took heat every day of his 8 yrs so you Obama supporters get ready to take it just the same, not necessarily from me but dont be pissed when Obama gets railed

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:13 PM
way to overreact there, the current problems arent necessarily his fault but he is making them worse with some of his stupid decisions...and dont be so sensitive, GW took heat every day of his 8 yrs so you Obama supporters get ready to take it just the same, not necessarily from me but dont be pissed when Obama gets railed

I'm overreacting? Seriously?

I'm merely making fun of other people that are.

Whet
3/6/2009, 04:14 PM
I agree, that is quite an over reaction there! I don't think there was an absence of blame for the previous administration, or the blame of the current administration for the start of this mess.

As Collier11 stated, decisions by the current administration is exacerbating the problem by their, and Congress' decisions on how they think they should deal with the tanking economy.

So, don't get your panties in a twist and contribute something useful to the question by badger.... if you can.

badger
3/6/2009, 04:19 PM
I just don't think I like what direction this thread is heading and I regret ever starting it. Pointing fingers only results in a bunch of fingers pointing back at ya or however that elementary school rhyme goes. I thought such a topic could serve as advice for those underemployed or unemployed, or employers facing difficult decisions regarding layoffs, bankruptcy, etc., but alas, I only see another heated Democrat vs. Republican blame game in the making.

The blame game continuing on this issue will only double the unemployment rate. I can't support something like that.

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:28 PM
I agree, that is quite an over reaction there! I don't think there was an absence of blame for the previous administration, or the blame of the current administration for the start of this mess.

As Collier11 stated, decisions by the current administration is exacerbating the problem by their, and Congress' decisions on how they think they should deal with the tanking economy.

So, don't get your panties in a twist and contribute something useful to the question by badger.... if you can.

How about this... I kindly ask you to **** off and don't try to tell me how to post on here? Okay? :)

I'm mocking certain people's overreactions on here (one of them being you) and I will continue to do so unless a moderator takes issue with it.

That's what makes it so amusing; When I throw this kind of behavior back in your faces, I'm accused of overreacting (which I'm not, because I'm not completely serious to begin with).

To address the issue at hand, I know very little about economics, and I'm not afraid to admit that, but I don't think Obama's decisions have had nearly enough time to take effect for them to be criticized this harshly.

Whet
3/6/2009, 04:28 PM
It's too darn late for that now, missey!

Your thread does have merit - there are folks that have experienced those issues and know how to, or how NOT to deal with them.

But, for those in this situation, they need to think about what the long-term prospects may be and deal with that, as well.

badger
3/6/2009, 04:37 PM
Eff it. This thread will be gone by tomorrow anyways. I'm going on to discuss more fun topics here... like pants. Pants thread, here I come. Pants pants pants pants...

Collier11
3/6/2009, 04:42 PM
How about this... I kindly ask you to **** off and don't try to tell me how to post on here? Okay? :)

I'm mocking certain people's overreactions on here (one of them being you) and I will continue to do so unless a moderator takes issue with it.

That's what makes it so amusing; When I throw this kind of behavior back in your faces, I'm accused of overreacting (which I'm not, because I'm not completely serious to begin with).

To address the issue at hand, I know very little about economics, and I'm not afraid to admit that, but I don't think Obama's decisions have had nearly enough time to take effect for them to be criticized this harshly.

Easiest way out I suppose, say something without thinking it through then act like you were mocking someone or joking around. You said what you said

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:45 PM
I just don't think I like what direction this thread is heading and I regret ever starting it. Pointing fingers only results in a bunch of fingers pointing back at ya or however that elementary school rhyme goes. I thought such a topic could serve as advice for those underemployed or unemployed, or employers facing difficult decisions regarding layoffs, bankruptcy, etc., but alas, I only see another heated Democrat vs. Republican blame game in the making.

The blame game continuing on this issue will only double the unemployment rate. I can't support something like that.

Sorry to take part in messing up your thread. :O

You can't really expect to have a serious discussion without it becoming personal when you have a bunch of finger pointers on here.

Back to RLIMC, Whet, etc.:

I do admit that this happened a lot when GW was in office as well, but it was not this ****ing bad. You guys have taken it to a new level.

You act as though you know what every effect of every one of Obama's decisions is going to be when you don't. Do you have a time machine?

All we can do is wait and see and hope his policies work out. I have no idea whether they will or won't, but I'm not going to flip out over every decision he makes that I disagree with, just as I didn't with GW.

Collier11
3/6/2009, 04:45 PM
oh yea, Obama is the POTUS...every decision deserves to be scrutinzed and so far his decisions have appeared to not be well thought out, time will tell and I may be wrong. I hope I am, but throwing around money that isnt even checked like he promised he would do line by line in his inauguration speech is a bad idea and hipocritical as well as a lie

Collier11
3/6/2009, 04:47 PM
I do admit that this happened a lot when GW was in office as well, but it was not this ****ing bad. You guys have taken it to a new level.

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Not even close, GW got crucified whether he did something right or wrong. Obviously he made mistakes and plenty of them but dems treated him with NO respect and no class, they decided early on to hate him and that was that.

Enough of the political talk now from me, ive said what I want to say...back to the point at hand

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:48 PM
oh yea, Obama is the POTUS...every decision deserves to be scrutinzed and so far his decisions have appeared to not be well thought out

They only appear that way to YOU and those like you because you're on different sides of the aisle. You have no idea whether they are good decisions or not. Nobody does yet.

sitzpinkler
3/6/2009, 04:49 PM
Easiest way out I suppose, say something without thinking it through then act like you were mocking someone or joking around. You said what you said

Really? I said what I said? How perceptive of you!

Does what I said really come across as serious to you? If so, **** it, that's your problem.

Whet
3/6/2009, 04:59 PM
They only appear that way to YOU and those like you because you're on different sides of the aisle. You have no idea whether they are good decisions or not. Nobody does yet.
Read the articles I provided - there are not THAT many big words in them! Then, perhaps you may understand what others have concluded about the President's recent decisions.

Gandalf_The_Grey
3/6/2009, 05:24 PM
Umm I see 25 Now Hiring signs going to work everyday. Hell, it may not pay much, but it pays something. We have a bunch of lazy *** Americans who think they are too good to work for next to nothing. People expecting the government to bail them out are looking in the wrong place.

yermom
3/6/2009, 05:25 PM
Read the articles I provided - there are not THAT many big words in them! Then, perhaps you may understand what others have concluded about the President's recent decisions.

you have anything with facts or just more talking heads that happen to agree with you?

all i got was a bunch of vague "Obama is killing the country" blogs

Frozen Sooner
3/6/2009, 05:26 PM
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