Republicans: "I'm sorry Rush!!"

[SanJoaquinSooner]

You pubs please click below to apologize to Big Boy Reagannoid, Mr. Oxycontin Blues.

http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry

[tommieharris91]

Too bad RLIMC has everyone on ignore. He won't see this thread.

[Crucifax Autumn]

i don't have anyone on ignore so I get to see all this back and forth shat daily. Unfortunately if I se everyone to ignore I'd have a blank page!

[StoopTroup]

You pubs please click below to apologize to Big Boy Reagannoid, Mr. Oxycontin Blues.

http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry

Tough crowd....lol

[OklahomaTuba]

have to admit, that's pretty funny right there.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Oh man, this thread caused my Fighting Irish Green to turn Sooner Red. Is waterboarding next?:hot:

[Crucifax Autumn]

Nah...you're just gonna be hobbled Misery-style.

[LosAngelesSooner]

Boom.

Green.

[Flagstaffsooner]

Boom

Red

[Jerk]

If you liberal Democrats were honest with yourselves, you'd admit that the "Ballerina" took Rush's comments waaay out of context.

What he actually said, was something like "If Obama's goals are socialism, then i hope he fails."

But, you guys are so good at lying, distorting the truth, and using the media for propaganda, that you have the uninformed masses convinced of your lie.

[King Crimson]

If you liberal Democrats were honest with yourselves, you'd admit that the "Ballerina" took Rush's comments waaay out of context.

What he actually said, was something like "If Obama's goals are socialism, then i hope he fails."

But, you guys are so good at lying, distorting the truth, and using the media for propaganda, that you have the uninformed masses convinced of your lie.

would you deny that Rush (or you) thinks Obama's goals are socialism?

[Jerk]

would you deny that Rush (or you) thinks Obama's goals are socialism?

It's becoming more apparent with each passing day that Obama's goals are for some sort of European-style socialist system. At best.

I would rather see civil war, anarchy, and collapse.

[King Crimson]

It's becoming more apparent with each passing day that Obama's goals are for some sort of European-style socialist system. At best.

I would rather see civil war, anarchy, and collapse.

then what Rush says is that he hopes Obama would fail. just to complete the syllogism.

i think it's really hypocritical for people to hope for anarchy, hiding guns in the hills, and "collapse"...when mere criticism of the POTUS in 2002 or 2003 about the "wars" made someone "anti-american". now, civil war, anarchy, and collpase...is some kind of hero, "true american" thing.

[King Crimson]

the hypocrisy is truly amazing.

[Jerk]

the hypocrisy is truly amazing.

Maybe in your own mind.

What should be amazing is that you guys are pushing for a system that has historically never worked and has always led to much less individual freedom.

If the choice is between anarchy or the new plantation, then I'll take anarchy.

[JohnnyMack]

I would rather see civil war, anarchy, and collapse.

I often get the feeling that you want that regardless of who's in the White House.

[Jerk]

And another thing:

The fact that you put so much faith in government to solve your day to day problems in life is just unimaginable to me. Why would you want to give so much power to someone other than yourself over your own life? Not only that, but an institution that is known for it's inefficiency and it's bloated bureaucracy that promotes its "administrators" via the Peter Principle. If anyone here doesn't know what the Peter Principle is, read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

We are headed for servitude and slavery, all for the dream of some Marxist egalitarian society that will do an outstanding job of spreading misery to everyone. That is, unless you are the ruling elite.

This is nothing more than the caste system brought back in modern form, fueled by envy and the desire to get even. Mark my words: some of us aren't going to roll over.

[Jerk]

I often get the feeling that you want that regardless of who's in the White House.

The reset button needs to be pushed.

Goodnight.

[JohnnyMack]

Coming here and reading your posts at night is like a leaving breathing version of Red Dawn. It's really cool.

[King Crimson]

Maybe in your own mind.

What should be amazing is that you guys are pushing for a system that has historically never worked and has always led to much less individual freedom.

If the choice is between anarchy or the new plantation, then I'll take anarchy.

i ain't pushing for anything.

if you think Ronald Reagan or GWB, or W, cared a flying **** about Oklahomans....you are the one who needs to rethink "America" or "people like me" or "pork rinds" or "common sense".

i'm not saying Clinton or Obama does either.

[JohnnyMack]

Pork. Rinds?

[King Crimson]

some good home-spun mass produced pork by-product....

and we all know the Bush's were just like us, from the oil fields of Odessa ("common sense") while Obama is a Harvard elitist.

[King Crimson]

speaking pretty=fake

speaking not pretty=plain talk, the truth not tricked up by fancy fake words and book learning.

gotta love that plain talk.

[JohnnyMack]

One time I went to Hartshorne, OK with my Dad. Went to a rodeo. Ate some BBQ at the High School. I'm pretty sure Barbara Bush was dishing up the potato salad.

[King Crimson]

Maybe in your own mind.

What should be amazing is that you guys are pushing for a system that has historically never worked and has always led to much less individual freedom.

If the choice is between anarchy or the new plantation, then I'll take anarchy.

no, the hypocrisy is truly amazing.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Dear Olevetonahill and Crucifax Autumn,

I'm sorry I called the two of you ugly brick throwers.

I was inarticulate and wasn't even thinking about you.

What I meant to say was you are inspiring, thought provoking, and you leave the cleverest comments ever.

Sometimes I put my foot in my mouth and talk generically - not about you two a$$holes.



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What's for Supper? 3/5/2009 08:36 PM Crucifax Autumn snot

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Complain about... 3/5/2009 08:35 PM Crucifax Autumn 666

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[olevetonahill]

But we love you .:rolleyes:

[Crucifax Autumn]

I love ya like a son! Those were all happy!

[47straight]

the hypocrisy is truly amazing.

What's it like to own no mirrors?

[King Crimson]

What's it like to own no mirrors?

that's pretty funny. hehehe.

and you'll tell me about reification or commodity fetishism next time you accuse someone of "marxism" or "socialism".

[47straight]

How about you find an instance of me accusing someone of "marxism" or "socialism" ?

[King Crimson]

How about you find an instance of me accusing someone of "marxism" or "socialism" ?

then why are you wetting your panties about me?

[King Crimson]

when i talk about hypocrisy in this thread, it's with Jerk.

and how we pick and choose among the civil liberties and call ourselves "libertarians" or "conservatives" who defend the constitution.

i think there's a lot of hypocrisy among conservatives when it comes to the bill of rights and their commitment to so-called civil liberties in the last presidential administration.

you are free to disagree, but don't get high and mighty about the Bill of Rights if you think/thought surveillance was justified in 2003 about what books people check out of a library and who applies for a license to buy a gun.

[47straight]

then why are you wetting your panties about me?

You're right, I'll try not to speak out against Obama supporters anymore. I'm a bad, bad American. I hope you'll be my counselor at reeducation camp.

[King Crimson]

You're right, I'll try not to speak out against Obama supporters anymore. I'm a bad, bad American. I hope you'll be my counselor at reeducation camp.

it ain't like that. are you that simple, that's the best can do?

[Curly Bill]

You're right, I'll try not to speak out against Obama supporters anymore. I'm a bad, bad American. I hope you'll be my counselor at reeducation camp.

That's right! Put your faith in big government, it's never gone wrong before! :P

[Crucifax Autumn]

Heh...Big gubment, little gubment, medium gubment, weight watchers/lean cuisine gubment, democratic gobmrnt, socialist gubment, fascist gubmit, monarchy...that all **** it up!

[AggieTool]

And another thing:

The fact that you put so much faith in government to solve your day to day problems in life is just unimaginable to me. Why would you want to give so much power to someone other than yourself over your own life? Not only that, but an institution that is known for it's inefficiency and it's bloated bureaucracy that promotes its "administrators" via the Peter Principle. If anyone here doesn't know what the Peter Principle is, read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle

We are headed for servitude and slavery, all for the dream of some Marxist egalitarian society that will do an outstanding job of spreading misery to everyone. That is, unless you are the ruling elite.

This is nothing more than the caste system brought back in modern form, fueled by envy and the desire to get even. Mark my words: some of us aren't going to roll over.


Auntie Em!:D

[AggieTool]

What should be amazing is that you guys are pushing for a system that has historically never worked and has always led to much less individual freedom.


See that's the problem.

Republicans have screwed things up so bad, that even if what Barry does is wrong, we have no credibility to counter it.

Thanks guys.

[olevetonahill]

Dear Olevetonahill and Crucifax Autumn,

I'm sorry I called the two of you ugly brick throwers.

I was inarticulate and wasn't even thinking about you.

What I meant to say was you are inspiring, thought provoking, and you leave the cleverest comments ever.

Sometimes I put my foot in my mouth and talk generically - not about you two a$$holes.


Lets see , I call a troll a "Dude , dudete or wanker " and get a red card and a Yeller
you call us *******s and get away clean .. you go girl .
You patriotic flag waving dude .:pop:

[KC//CRIMSON]

Lets see , I call a troll a "Dude , dudete or wanker " and get a red card and a Yeller
you call us *******s and get away clean .. you go girl .
You patriotic flag waving dude .:pop:


FWIW, I don't think he's a troll......

[Crucifax Autumn]

He was Talking about ECU Tiger

[olevetonahill]

FWIW, I don't think he's a troll......

Not juan I was talkin that ecu tiger troll dude .;)

[StoopTroup]

I think some of you need a hug.

Where's Chuck when you need him?

[Crucifax Autumn]

Smartazz...Simple fact is Vet has a point...

If ya get crdeed for salling a troll a name...even if ya basically just say I don't know if you're a guy or a chick...then why can someone single us out and call us Azzholes?

And vet and this guy would be perfectly cool if not for him saying the Mexican flag should be flown over Old Glory.

And honestly...ask anyone who's received my spek...I'm middle left. Even I think the flag thing is pretty assinine.

As vet has asked many times...just apologize and say it's wrong to fly another country's flag over ours in OUR country. Pretty simple and an easy way out of the argument!

[olevetonahill]

Bane me after this I could not care less.
juan you are a ****ing prick ! You call Cru and I azzholes and walk smooth away .
You Post the beaner Flag Over Old Glory and and you are cool .
**** you and yer Lib friends who think this **** is a ****in joke . I didnt Fight Under this American Flag to Have you or any one else Diss it this way , Nor Did I see MY friends come home UNDER one just so you could play a game with the Flag
**** you , Put me On ignore me and I will iggy you
Cause im ****ing thru .

[Crucifax Autumn]

****

[Crucifax Autumn]

**** yeah!

[olevetonahill]

****

juan is now on iggy and I feel ****in better already:D

[StoopTroup]

Bane me after this I could not care less.
juan you are a ****ing prick ! You call Cru and I azzholes and walk smooth away .
You Post the beaner Flag Over Old Glory and and you are cool .
**** you and yer Lib friends who think this **** is a ****in joke . I didnt Fight Under this American Flag to Have you or any one else Diss it this way , Nor Did I see MY friends come home UNDER one just so you could play a game with the Flag
**** you , Put me On ignore me and I will iggy you
Cause im ****ing thru .


I don't think the hug is gonna work now Juan.

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Hi guys! What's cookin'?

Sorry I'm late to the party.... but I lost my pet bug. Did it crawl up someone's a$$hole around here?

[jkjsooner]

It's becoming more apparent with each passing day that Obama's goals are for some sort of European-style socialist system. At best.

I would rather see civil war, anarchy, and collapse.

This is something I just don't understand. Too many people have this idealistic view of revolution or civil war that ultimately ends up individuals regaining individual freedom.

Just from looking around the world, more than likely this ends with either some ruthless dictator or some vigilante group suppressing/murdering/imprisoning anyone who is either different from them or disagrees with them.

[jkjsooner]

Maybe in your own mind.

What should be amazing is that you guys are pushing for a system that has historically never worked and has always led to much less individual freedom.

If the choice is between anarchy or the new plantation, then I'll take anarchy.

What system is that, Jerk? Are you talking about full blown communism or a government that provides some social services to its citizens while still allowing all the benefits of capitalism? You do realize there's always middle ground, right?

You do understand that the comparisons of all Democrats to full blown communists is a clever PR campaign by the Republican party, right?

[OU_Sooners75]

Hi guys! What's cookin'?

Sorry I'm late to the party.... but I lost my pet bug. Did it crawl up someone's a$$hole around here?


Do you attend the tailgates?

I want to drink a beer with you.

I have never seen such stupidity and ignorance rolled into one package!

[OU_Sooners75]

What system is that, Jerk? Are you talking about full blown communism or a government that provides some social services to its citizens while still allowing all the benefits of capitalism? You do realize there's always middle ground, right?

You do understand that the comparisons of all Democrats to full blown communists is a clever PR campaign by the Republican party, right?


Somebody needs to take a government course again.


Communism =/= socialism!

Capitalism is not a form of government...hell, communist China allows capitalism as well!

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Do you attend the tailgates?

I want to drink a beer with you.

I have never seen such stupidity and ignorance rolled into one package!


I appreciate the invitation and would love to take in a couple of games each year.... unfortunately, I'm 1600 miles from Norman.

When I last lived in Norman, I was one block south of the old O'Connell's location.... loved the game day atmosphere.

[StoopTroup]

Airfare is bound to go down eventually. Planning ahead can really save you some bucks. Maybe 75 could even let you stay at his place. :D

[SanJoaquinSooner]

Airfare is bound to go down eventually. Planning ahead can really save you some bucks. Maybe 75 could even let you stay at his place. :D

Don't know, we have a pretty weak-a$$ed home schedule next year.... not flyin in for Idaho State, Tulsa, or Baylor.

Maybe Ok State, but really, the Texas game makes the most bang-for-my-buck sense.

[StoopTroup]

Don't know, we have a pretty weak-a$$ed home schedule next year.... not flyin in for Idaho State, Tulsa, or Baylor.

Maybe Ok State, but really, the Texas game makes the most bang-for-my-buck sense.

With that kind of thinking you would have missed out on the best Home Game of the year by passing on the Texas Tech Game.

I think you might want to really make both the whorn game and aggie if your thinking about it at all.

You should at least do the aggie game as it's a Home Game. Throw the whorns in if you want...but seeing the Sooners at Home makes more sense as a Sooner Fan IMO.

[def_lazer_fc]

And another thing:

The fact that you put so much faith in government to solve your day to day problems in life is just unimaginable to me. Why would you want to give so much power to someone other than yourself over your own life?

only if that government's name is jesus.;) :D

[jkjsooner]

Somebody needs to take a government course again.


Communism =/= socialism!

Capitalism is not a form of government...hell, communist China allows capitalism as well!

When did I ever say communism equals socialism? I was saying just the opposite - that guys like Jerk are saying that any social programs are equivalent to Soviet style communism. They may use the term socialism but they want visions of Stalin to dance in your head...

In a way, you kind of made my point for me.

I am guessing by your post that you could not tell me the difference either as most people who try to explain the difference are absolutely incorrect. You seem to be implying that communism is a form of government whereas socialism and capitalism are economic philosophies.

The actual original definition of communism is a state that is reached after there is no need for money or government, etc. Yes, it is a bata$$ crazy idea - totally against human nature.

I'm not sure what you your point is about China. Please explain. While China may be in a wierd state of some capitalism and some communism, those two philosophies are definitely contradictory.

I'm reading between the lines here but as best as I can tell you are the one who needs to go back and take a government class.

[StoopTroup]

Maybe there's a youtube video you guys could use to bring the rest of us up to speed.

[OU_Sooners75]

When did I ever say communism equals socialism? I was saying just the opposite - that guys like Jerk are saying that any social programs are equivalent to Soviet style communism. They may use the term socialism but they want visions of Stalin to dance in your head...

In a way, you kind of made my point for me.

I am guessing by your post that you could not tell me the difference either as most people who try to explain the difference are absolutely incorrect. You seem to be implying that communism is a form of government whereas socialism and capitalism are economic philosophies.

The actual original definition of communism is a state that is reached after there is no need for money or government, etc. Yes, it is a bata$$ crazy idea - totally against human nature.

I'm not sure what you your point is about China. Please explain. While China may be in a wierd state of some capitalism and some communism, those two philosophies are definitely contradictory.

I'm reading between the lines here but as best as I can tell you are the one who needs to go back and take a government class.

Communist: system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single - often authoritarian - party holds power; state controls are imposed with the elimination of private ownership of property or capital while claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people (i.e., a classless society).


Capitalist is an economic system in which wealth, and the means of producing wealth, are privately owned and controlled rather than commonly, publicly, or state-owned and controlled. Through capitalism, the land, labor, and capital are owned, operated, and traded by private individuals either singly or jointly, and investments, distribution, income, production, pricing and supply of goods, commodities and services are determined by voluntary private decision in a market economy. A distinguishing feature of capitalism is that each person owns his or her own labor and therefore is allowed to sell the use of it to employers. In a "capitalist state", private rights and property relations are protected by the rule of law of a limited regulatory framework. In the modern capitalist state, legislative action is confined to defining and enforcing the basic rules of the market, though the state may provide some public goods and infrastructure.


With that said, you can have a communist country, like China, that allows for stock markets and public trading. Google China Stock Market Security Index.

You could also have a democracy that is socialist and owns all public social programs and revenue (Venezuela).

Or you could have a democracy that is a capitalist state (USA). Or a communist government that is a socialistic state(Cuba, North Korea, and Old USSR).

In other words, Communism is a form of government, while Capitalism and Socialism are not.

[1890MilesToNorman]

Or you could have a representative Republic with a constitution, bill of rights and amendments like we do?

[OU_Sooners75]

Or you could have a representative Republic with a constitution, bill of rights and amendments like we do?


We fall more into the democracy form of government.


A democracy is a system of government in which political control is exercised by all people either directly, or through their elected representatives. Democracy is a form of government in which power is held directly or indirectly by citizens under a free electoral system.

[jkjsooner]

Communist: system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single - often authoritarian - party holds power; state controls are imposed with the elimination of private ownership of property or capital while claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people (i.e., a classless society).

Just to point out that that is not the original definition of communism and it is definitely immaterial to my original point. And, by the way, if you refer to the definition of communism that does refer to a system of government then you need to capitalize it - something I never did.

The fact is that I used communism in its correct context in my original post. From Merriam Webster, "a theory advocating the elimination of private property," which can be accurately portrayed as the opposite extreme of capitalism. (Given, this definition differs from the idealistic ideas of Marx that attribute communism to a state where government is no longer necessary but in either case I used the term correctly.)

I think I've proven that I grasp the subject well enough to skip that government class thank you very much.