biggest screw jobs against sooners

[ouwapiti]

ok, the biggest ones i've witnessed are '85 vs texas, at lubbock in 04, oregon debacle....are there anymore any worse?????...just wondering

[PDXsooner]

oregon in '06. First they touched the ball before it went ten yards, then we recovered the ball -- they granted oregon possession. Then the mysterious PI call after the ball was tipped. It basically took multiple ridiculous calls in order for oregon to "win" the game -- which we all know OU actually won.

[PDXsooner]

Oh, and what makes it so ridiculous is that the refs had the luxury of replay!!!!

[Aries]

Texas Tech, 2005. Not only the touchdown on the last play of the game, but a very favorable spot on a fourth down play earlier in the drive that was an even worse call.

[mikeelikee]

It was actually the 1984 OU-Texass game, where two unbelievably sorry calls went against us on their last-minute drive. I would add to that, the screw job in Lubbock in '05, and the Duck f**k in '06.

[King Crimson]

1. 84: Texas
2. 06: Oregon
3. 05: Pirates

[Flagstaffsooner]

Who can forget the blatant clipping on Thanksgiving Day 1971 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLvv3KPNHfY)

[King Crimson]

Who can forget the blatant clipping on Thanksgiving Day 1971 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLvv3KPNHfY)

which clip? there are a couple....though the one that happens on the NU 45 is the most obvious block in the back.

hell, my graddad complained about that one and he was NOT a "blame it on the refs" kind of guy.

[rainiersooner]

God letting Jesus play for Florida against us in Miami; we just never stood a chance.

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'm with Flag on this one!

But both Oregon and Tech are pretty riDICKulous IMO.

Biggest screw job: The King getting blacklisted and dismissed.

[Flagstaffsooner]

which clip? there are a couple....though the one that happens on the NU 45 is the most obvious block in the back.

hell, my graddad complained about that one and he was NOT a "blame it on the refs" kind of guy.There was another one that wasn't on camera and there was a fumble that they blew a quick whistle on. I was there and still get pissed some 38 years later.

[AlbqSooner]

In the early 50s there was a call in the texass game that was SO bad that on the way out of the stadium one of the refs got his shirt ripped off by OU fans, Bud was visibly livid, and the Texas Coach and his wife had a police escort out of the stadium. The book "The Undefeated" chronicles this.

[Flagstaffsooner]

In the early 50s there was a call in the texass game that was SO bad that on the way out of the stadium one of the refs got his shirt ripped off by OU fans, Bud was visibly livid, and the Texas Coach and his wife had a police escort out of the stadium. The book "The Undefeated" chronicles this.
Jack Sisco?

[soonerfan28]

Oregon in 06 because you have no excuse when you have replay, but then you could also say that about Tech in 2005.

[oubose]

This years '08 OU vs. saxet game with 2 bullsh*t late hits on mccoy and the int. in the end zone that never happened! WTF! Most of all it sure has to be the '06 Oregon game, for the love of god the ref's had replay and and Allen Patrick came up with the ball.

texas SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oudivesherpa]

Thanksgiving Day 1971. I was sitting on the east side in section 31 and I saw the ref look right at the clip, I was sure it was coming back but it didn't.

There must have been some games where we got the benefit of a questionable call, but I can't remember any...Am I just getting senile or there just damn few of them?

[JLEW1818]

and can somebody tell me who the ref was against tech in 2005....... no other than ...................

[Flagstaffsooner]

We git butt f*cked alot.

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

We git butt f*cked alot.

Ummmmm......speak for yourself there, sport. ;)

[MyT Oklahoma]

In the early 50s there was a call in the texass game that was SO bad that on the way out of the stadium one of the refs got his shirt ripped off by OU fans, Bud was visibly livid, and the Texas Coach and his wife had a police escort out of the stadium. The book "The Undefeated" chronicles this.

It was the 1947 OU/Texas game and yes we got "Siscoed". See "Annual Madness" by Bill Cromartie for authority, pages 219 to 226.

"Annual Madness" is a great book about the OU/Texas games from the first one through 1986. Great read.

[JLEW1818]

still waiting..... the referee during the 05 tech game ...... was...........

[SoonerStormchaser]

John Bible

[JLEW1818]

close, this guy is worse then him

[MamaMia]

BEVO Barf
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Ref Raider Screw
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DUCK Crap

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/OUmom/OU%20Football/71937006.jpg

[FroggyStyle22]

close, this guy is worse then him

NO ONE is worse than John Bible. That guy sucks at life.

[SouthFortySooner]

This years '08 OU vs. saxet game with 2 bullsh*t late hits on mccoy and the int. in the end zone that never happened! WTF! Most of all it sure has to be the '06 Oregon game, for the love of god the ref's had replay and and Allen Patrick came up with the ball.

texas SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Agree. The two late hit calls against colty mccolt colt are like a burning ulcer still.

[BoulderSooner79]

I think it was the '76 UT game. Thomas Lott was executing an option pitch and waited until the horn defender dove across his legs to pitch to the half-back. Lott slumped over the defender as he was going to the ground and the ref called offensive holding against Lott ! I don't know if it was a big play in the game, but that was the most bewildering call I can ever remember.

[snp]

This years '08 OU vs. saxet game with 2 bullsh*t late hits on mccoy and the int. in the end zone that never happened! WTF! Most of all it sure has to be the '06 Oregon game, for the love of god the ref's had replay and and Allen Patrick came up with the ball.

texas SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A receiver or defender must maintain possession when hitting the ground. The ground can't cause a fumble but it can cause an incompletion.

[Scott D]

John Bible

Think his point was more a reference that the guy who made the TD call for Henderson on that play is a Lubbock resident.

[Jacie]

Conspiracy theorists might try to make a connection to ALL of these calls, from the 70's forward, on Oklahoma being one of only two Division 1 schools (the other was Georgia) to go to bat for everyone else in the case that went against the NCAA and ultimately awarded control of television rights to college football away from them and to the individual schools.

Could there be an agreement between some refs and the NCAA in exchange for a guaranteed job or some other under-the-table inducement to make things go against OU every so often?

[Sooner04]

I tend to give the officials the benefit of the doubt in the '84 Texas game because if it had been raining any harder Noah would've been down by Fletcher's building another ark. Still, Stanberry made a human squeegee as he slid out of bounds for THE ENTIRE WORLD to see and that line judge still ruled him out. Godawful call. The one at midfield on the fumble was just as bad, maybe worse.

All that being said, I hope I never live to see OU rooked again like they were up in Oregon in 2006.

[JLEW1818]

Randy Crystal was the ref against Tech in 05, and i think he is the worst.

[Leroy Lizard]

You guys forgot: "... but the player fought through the hold..."

[unbiasedtruth]

Randy Crystal was the ref against Tech in 05, and i think he is the worst.


add in the replay official in that game was the same Big XII ref that in the 2002 BCS championship game pulled the flag out of his pocket about 5 seconds after the play was over calling pass interference on the Canes when there wasnt any giving tOSU new life....

[KingBarry]

Conspiracy theorists might try to make a connection to ALL of these calls, from the 70's forward, on Oklahoma being one of only two Division 1 schools (the other was Georgia) to go to bat for everyone else in the case that went against the NCAA and ultimately awarded control of television rights to college football away from them and to the individual schools.

Could there be an agreement between some refs and the NCAA in exchange for a guaranteed job or some other under-the-table inducement to make things go against OU every so often?

Come on, that's way over the top. First off, the officials don't even work for the NCAA, they work for the leagues, and it's pretty clear the Pac 10 refs are out to make sure that Pac-10 teams win. Second, the guys at Lubbock were pretty clearly just homers, refusing to make any late-game tough calls against the hostile home crowd. Third, the anti-trust case was before I even went to OU in 1984--pretty much everyone involved is now retired on both sides. Fourth, you are talking about a grand conspiracy against OKLAHOMA, a team that has played for what--six or seven national championships since the case, and has won two of them? With the whole NCAA against us? Fifth, UGA has also done pretty well over the same stretch, and shouldn't they be getting shafted as well as us? Sixth, when OU (Bomar) actually committed NCAA infractions, and they had the freedom to nail us, we came out in the end with little more than token sanctions. Seventh, the NCAA and all the schools in the end were big big big winners by liberalizing the TV market just in time for ESPN.

When I say the NCAA and its members won from our case, I am talking to the tune of billions of dollars.

On the other hand, it IS pretty tough to find an explanation for what happened at Oregon.

[KingBarry]

add in the replay official in that game was the same Big XII ref that in the 2002 BCS championship game pulled the flag out of his pocket about 5 seconds after the play was over calling pass interference on the Canes when there wasnt any giving tOSU new life....

That was actually demonstrably a good call. The pass interference happened early in the play, and the official was slow in pulling the flag, but how mad (justifiably) would you be had he not called apparent PI when it determined the outcome of the game?

[oupride]

Oregon, because replay was available and the multiple mistakes by the zebras.

[JLEW1818]

Miami Ohio State


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpTkYMLzdc

[picasso]

ok, the biggest ones i've witnessed are '85 vs texas, at lubbock in 04, oregon debacle....are there anymore any worse?????...just wondering

John Blake.

[MiccoMacey]

You guys forgot: "... but the player fought through the hold..."

Row Williams vs. KSU - 2000.

I thought I was going to spit my BBQ at the screen when he said that.

[outwism]

Texas Tech, 2005. Not only the touchdown on the last play of the game, but a very favorable spot on a fourth down play earlier in the drive that was an even worse call.

Does anyone have a clip to the favorable spot on fouth down? I unfortunately work with all TT people who year in year out "forget" about that play.

[101sooner]

1984.

It was a fumble.

The pass was uncatchable on the interference penalty.

It was an interception.

[badger]

While I'm sure the team appreciates fan enthusiasm, the fact remains that no matter how many times the Sooners have been screwed, the program overall has been quite successful. Thus, it is likely that there have been ref calls in our favor that should not have been.

So anyways, please don't be the "fan" that death threat calls the ref after another replay fiasco outta the Pac 10. Please.

[47straight]

Row Williams vs. KSU - 2000.

I thought I was going to spit my BBQ at the screen when he said that.


Explain?

[47straight]

Biggest screwjob:

Media and coaches' bias against Switzer based on Coach Royal's backstabbing, badmouthing, and lies. Royal claimed that OU had an unfair advantage because OU "cheated." In reality, OU had an unfair advantage because OU "integrated" 15 years before UT, and Royal had a hard time living that down recruiting in the 70s.

[Scott D]

Explain?

believe that was a ref not calling a holding penalty on KSU because the OU player in question (Williams) fought through the hold.

[SoonerStormchaser]

add in the replay official in that game was the same Big XII ref that in the 2002 BCS championship game pulled the flag out of his pocket about 5 seconds after the play was over calling pass interference on the Canes when there wasnt any giving tOSU new life....

That would be Terry Porter...and he ****ed up a perfectly good MNC game with that bull**** call!

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

1984.

It was a fumble.

The pass was uncatchable on the interference penalty.

It was an interception.I thought it was the 1983 game, but regardless, this was easily the worst called of the TX games during the Switzer years.
I think this year's game with the whorn drive-saving unnecessary roughness calls, and capped with the incomplete pass call on the interception in the end zone, might be the worst called tx game since Stoops has been HC.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

A receiver or defender must maintain possession when hitting the ground. The ground can't cause a fumble but it can cause an incompletion.You apparently didn't notice that our DB'S knee hit the ground before he flattened out and the ball came out.

[Salt City Sooner]

You apparently didn't notice that our DB'S knee hit the ground before he flattened out and the ball came out.
Doesn't matter. You have to complete the catch, period. They've been heavily accentuating this for about 4-5 years now. If you want 2 more examples off the top of my head, 1) Manny Johnson in Lubbock, in '07, & Jeremy Maclin in the B12 title game this year. Both were on the ground with the ball, but didn't maintain possession throughout the entire play, thus, incompletion.

[SoonerinTexas]

I was setting in the North end zone when Johnny Rogers took the kick
off. Big time clip on the catch and no call.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Doesn't matter. You have to complete the catch, period. They've been heavily accentuating this for about 4-5 years now. If you want 2 more examples off the top of my head, 1) Manny Johnson in Lubbock, in '07, & Jeremy Maclin in the B12 title game this year. Both were on the ground with the ball, but didn't maintain possession throughout the entire play, thus, incompletion.Heh, our DB had the ball when his knee hit. It didn't come out til after he should have been ruled down.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I was setting in the North end zone when Johnny Rogers took the kick
off. Big time clip on the catch and no call.How many clips were there on that play, anyway?

[MI Sooner]

While iit didn't impact the outcome of the game, I don't understand the personal foul Nic Harris got late in the TTY gane this year.

Oregon is by far the worst. The TTU game a few years back was a judgement call without perfect angles. Oregon didn't recover the ball, end of story. Has anyone ever asked the official on the field what caused him to signal that it was Oregon's ball?

[Salt City Sooner]

Heh, our DB had the ball when his knee hit. It didn't come out til after he should have been ruled down.
Being down is not necessarily the end of the play, according to how it's been called as I said, the last few years. You still have to complete the catch. Lamont came up & the ball stayed down. It wasn't always that way I know, but it is now, & the refs have been very consistent in calling it as such since they've gone in this direction, which is all you can ask for.

[BoulderSooner79]

Oregon is the worst I can recall and I've been watching OU since '71. It's not just how bad the call is, but when it occurs and if it affects the game. The non-fumble by OSU this year was a really bad call - the ref's view was not obstructed and the runner was completely upright, so no question of him being down. But we won, so it's easy to forget.

I'm not as critical of the TD in the '05 Tech game, because I never saw a replay that was unobstructed or straight down the line. But the mark on the 4th down call was off by a yard, so it never should have come to that. Also, the ref called a pass into the endzone a TD when the guy didn't even come close to catching the ball. It was reversed on replay, but it definitely gave the feeling that the refs were going to keep the game going until Tech won.

[BoulderSooner79]

While iit didn't impact the outcome of the game, I don't understand the personal foul Nic Harris got late in the TTY gane this year.

Oregon is by far the worst. The TTU game a few years back was a judgement call without perfect angles. Oregon didn't recover the ball, end of story. Has anyone ever asked the official on the field what caused him to signal that it was Oregon's ball?

I understand the Nic Harris call. At full speed, it looked like a helmet-to-helmet hit because the guys head snapped to the side. Upon replay, it was actually a hit by the other guy (Holmes?) to the opposite shoulder that caused the head to snap, so there was no foul. Just a missed call, but understandable to me because I thought the same thing at first.

I totally agree about the Oregon game - both the on-side kick and the PI call on a tipped ball. But it also created a huge opportunity. Had we made the FG after the Reggie Smith kick return, it would have been one of the sweetest wins ever. sigh.

[MiccoMacey]

Explain?

Roy had an unabated line to the QB when the OL guy grabbed his shirt from behind and completely held him.

Roy kept coming through and fought off the hold, but didn't get the sack. They picked up the flag and uttered those words as the explanation for why it wasn't a hold.

[BermudaSooner]

I still thought that Boise State fumbled on the play before they scored the TD in OT. OU recovered the "non-fumble."

For the first time since the game, I watched the replay of this year's Champ game. Obviously the hit on Manny was early should be PI and certainly an NFL penalty for unnecessary roughness, but the call I hadn't seen mentioned is on the first time OU gets inside the 5, on 2nd down it looks like Chris Brown is well into the endzone. He ran from the 4-5 down to the goal line. Fox coverage was awful so they didn't replay with a better angle, but when the play finished, Brown was in the endzone--his belt was basically at the goal line. Whether he crawled there after being down or not, I don't know--it still shouldn't matter as we ran the ball down their throats that drive and then can't get in from the 1 on 2 successive plays. Alright, so I'm not over it...

[badger]

That would be Terry Porter...and he ****ed up a perfectly good MNC game with that bull**** call!

I know it gave the media a reason to not completely grudge Ohio State in future nat'l title games, but the victim of the call was Miami. Don't Sooner fans hate Miami by default and cheer anything that goes against the menace that is Miami?

The flag was late, yes, but it appeared to be the right call, even if the flag didn't get thrown right away. It would have been a lot worse if they had reviewed the tape later to reveal that the call should have gone the other way, but the ref never pulled the flag out at all. It would have been like our Oregon fiasco when everyone said later that the wrong call was made... doesn't matter once the game's over.

In fact, that would have been worse. We still won the Big 12 that year. Ohio State, on the other hand, would have lost the title game and likely not had the recruits and future media standing for being title winners in 02.

[MiccoMacey]

BTW, although it wasn't as game changing as the ones mentioned previously, but on the first play of the third quarter in the OSU game this year, Kendall Hunter is prectically standing upright and fumbles the ball and it's not called. Not even reviewed. Nic Harris recovers the ball.

OSU goes on to score a TD on that drive (although they go for two and fumble and we return it for a 2-point conversion).

[soonermagic14]

I still thought that Boise State fumbled on the play before they scored the TD in OT. OU recovered the "non-fumble."

For the first time since the game, I watched the replay of this year's Champ game. Obviously the hit on Manny was early should be PI and certainly an NFL penalty for unnecessary roughness, but the call I hadn't seen mentioned is on the first time OU gets inside the 5, on 2nd down it looks like Chris Brown is well into the endzone. He ran from the 4-5 down to the goal line. Fox coverage was awful so they didn't replay with a better angle, but when the play finished, Brown was in the endzone--his belt was basically at the goal line. Whether he crawled there after being down or not, I don't know--it still shouldn't matter as we ran the ball down their throats that drive and then can't get in from the 1 on 2 successive plays. Alright, so I'm not over it...

I agree...the hit on Manny was pass interference, unnecessary roughness, and should have been a sideline infraction too b/c about seven UF benchwarmers huddled around him talking crap- and no flags were thrown. That was momentum for UF....had they thrown the flags (or even one flag) who knows what could've happened on that drive.

But overall, Oregon has my vote.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I know it gave the media a reason to not completely grudge Ohio State in future nat'l title games, but the victim of the call was Miami. Don't Sooner fans hate Miami by default and cheer anything that goes against the menace that is Miami?...

Lots, maybe most Sooner fans were pulling for tOSU, because Miami had a very long win streak going, and were uncomfortably close to approaching our 47 game win streak, like us pulling for the (gulp)whorns after the '05 season against suc. I was very happy the bucknuts won that game. Didn't really care if it was a good call or not.

[Flagstaffsooner]

http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2007/12/carl_sagan_500px.jpg
How many clips were there on that play, anyway?Billions and Billions..

Actually 3.

[BoulderSooner79]

I was certainly pulling for tOSU against Miami in '02, but I didn't want a bad call to determine the outcome. I don't think it was a bad call. I would have called it defensive holding because it looked like it was holding the guy before the pass was in the air, but still a fresh set of downs.

We anguish over our BCS title losses, but Miami and USC have suffered the 3 most heart wrenching losses of all. USC to the horns on 4th down with a few ticks left. Miami to Penn St. in '87 and then to tOSU in '03. Both times Miami was the far superior team and outgained he opponent almost 2-1, but kept making key mistakes. The '87 game was pre-BCS, but the teams were undisputed #1 vs. #2 in both polls.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I was certainly pulling for tOSU against Miami in '02, but I didn't want a bad call to determine the outcome. I don't think it was a bad call. I would have called it defensive holding because it looked like it was holding the guy before the pass was in the air, but still a fresh set of downs.

We anguish over our BCS title losses, but Miami and USC have suffered the 3 most heart wrenching losses of all. USC to the horns on 4th down with a few ticks left. Miami to Penn St. in '87 and then to tOSU in '03. Both times Miami was the far superior team and outgained he opponent almost 2-1, but kept making key mistakes. The '87 game was pre-BCS, but the teams were undisputed #1 vs. #2 in both polls.NTCTS,B I'm not really sure, yet, but I think I like having Randy Shannon as HC of the u. I don't think he has all his ducks in line.(ie, they could do better for a HC)

[Leroy Lizard]

In order of screwness:

1. Onside kick against Oregon. This one was so bad that many have called it the worst call in college football history. Even with instant replay, they couldn't get it right.

2. Keith Stansberry INT against Texas, 1984. The ref was right there, couldn't have possibly missed what took place, and still got it wrong.

3. "Fought through the hold." Totally inane.

The rest of the calls are those that the ref simply missed, can happen to anyone. We can't expect perfection from refs; they'll miss some and get some right. The three above are completely inexplicable, however, and almost look deliberate.

[Leroy Lizard]

Does anyone remember the ref that screwed over Nebraska when they were playing Penn State and then later screwed Alabama when they were playing Penn State?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XiH8mxa-Z0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlBv0C7KtHA&feature=related

[OU1988]

Also on the Stanberry INT, the field was wet and his feet were splashing a yard inside the sideline, making it completely obvious he was in bounds.

[OU1988]

Can't remember if this was mentioned, but UT had fumbled earlier on the same drive and we recovered the ball, but the officials missed/ignored the call. Oregon still gets my vote though, since they had instant replay and totally ignored the facts.

[The Remnant]

The biggest screw job is Sports Illustrated putting Charles Thompson on the cover of their magazine. This action threw red meat to every Sooner hater out there. It also fanned the flames of East Coast snobbery.

[stoopified]

The penalty on the Sooner Schooner in the Orange Bowl vs. Washington State was bogus.