Espn's Prestige rankings

[soonermix]

tomorrow and friday they will reveal their top 10
what do you think the rankings will be?

[Scotty]

1. Notre Dame

[DrZaius]

with spots 2,3,4 and 5 going to Bama

[OUinFLA]

SEC, SEC, SEC !

[King Crimson]

with spots 2,3,4 and 5 going to Bama

that's how Billy Bob's Roll Tide website has them ranked.

must be good to go.

[SoonersEnFuego]

1. Florida
2. Florida
3. Florida
4. Florida
5. Notre Dame
6. Alabama
7. Auburn
8. Ole Miss
9. Vanderbilt
10. Texas
etc.

[fadada1]

1. ND
2. ND
3. ND
4. ND
5. ND
6. ND
7. ND
8. ND
9. ND
10 ND scout team

[SteelClip49]

All time I would say.....

1. Southern Cal
2. Notre Dame
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Nebraska
6. Ohio State
7. Texas
8. Miami
9. Penn State
10. Florida

[tbl]

It's starting at 1936. We'll definitely be top 4, possibly top 2.

[StanberryWasIn]

65. Oklahoma State

That ain't true!!!

[bluedogok]

If Beano was doing the rankings.....
1. ND
2. Army
3. Harvard
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Michigan
7. Cornell
8. Pitt
9. USC
10. Penn

[Boomer38Sooner]

1. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
2. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Notre Dame
6. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
7.The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
8. Oklahoma

[Collier11]

I guarantee you for no damn reason at all, we will be behind uterus and their 1 conf title

[soonerfan28]

All time I would say.....

1. Southern Cal
2. Notre Dame
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Nebraska
6. Ohio State
7. Texas
8. Miami
9. Penn State
10. Florida

No Michigan? They have 42 conference championships to OSU's 33. The also claim 11 national titles but I can't find anywhere that has how many they really have.

[Harry Beanbag]

No Michigan? They have 42 conference championships to OSU's 33. The also claim 11 national titles but I can't find anywhere that has how many they really have.


tbl said this starts in 1936 which coincidentally is when the AP poll started. If they are going by AP titles, then Michigan has 2.

Using these four links, I would guess the top 8 would look something like:

1. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. USC
5. Ohio State
6. Nebraska
7. Texas
8. Michigan

http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/research/championships.cfm

http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/app_total.cfm

http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/app_total.cfm?sort=num1app&decade=all&rows=10

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1936&end=2008&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Wins


I have no idea what criteria they are using though. And if they start using Bama style championships, then Alabama, USC, and Michigan will be higher.

[soonervegas]

1. Scarlett Johansson
2. Piper Perabo
3. Rebecca Hall

[SoonerSig]

Mark it down... NO WAY IN HELL WE WILL BE BEHIND TEXAS!!!! You heard it here first.

[soonermix]

yeah i've been thinking and based on my calculations these are the remaining teams to be ranked in the top 10 (in no particular order)

OU, bama, mich, tosu, nd, suc, texas, neb, miami, fsu

i think easily the top 4 are OU, bama, nd, and suc

[SoCal]

1. ND
2. ND
3. ND
4. ND
5. ND
6. ND
7. ND
8. ND
9. ND
10 ND scout team

:P

Called Granny Holtz for the rules to this contest!!

[bri]

64. Tulsa: 123
65. Oklahoma State: 115

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

[bringit]

I guarantee you for no damn reason at all, we will be behind uterus and their 1 conf title

They have 2

[Harry Beanbag]

Actually, they have 30.

[oupride]

1. Southern Cal

[nytehorn]

I don't think we will be above you, but the years of probation may do it, but doubtful. 7 NC, to our 4, more CC's, more heismans, and more top 10 finishes. I see it:

1. Notre Dame
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas

"Bear" will never die! ;)

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

Can someone explain to me how USC would be ahead of us? As far as the ESPN Prestige criteria is concerned, USC was pretty damn average up until the mid-60s when John McKay arrived. Continued success through the 70s, certainly not terrible in the early 80s, with the occasional bright spot (Rodney Peete) but then pretty much dropped off the face of the earth until Pete Carroll arrived in 2001.

They have more Heisman winners than we do, but that's got as much to do with the exposure they receive being located in Los Angeles as anything else. 2 of their claimed national titles I don't recognize (1974 and 2003), and I just don't see how that could trump 47 Game Winning Streak, perennial Top 20 team throughout most of the 1960s, Winningest Team of the 70s, mid-80s dominance once we got over the 8-4 hump, dumped Dupree by the wayside and switched back to the 'Bone. Aside from rarely beating Texas, Nebraska, and Colorado, we certainly were fairly competative throughout most of the Gibbs era, and really the only time we were COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT was the last half of SmellsofBourbon's season, and the Blake years. That's pretty much only a 5 year window of national irrelevancy SINCE THE LATE 1940s!

How could they top that? Seriously, I'd love to know. I'll take my response off the air.

[Collier11]

They have 2

excuse me, one with mack

[josh09]

1. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
2. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Notre Dame
6. The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
7.The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah
8. Oklahoma

I'm gonna have to go with this one :D

[SoonerSig]

1. ND
2. ND
3. ND
4. ND
5. ND
6. ND
7. ND
8. ND
9. ND
10 ND scout team

That might be the funniest thing I've ever read.

[badger]

I think it's funny that pretty much every top SEC program is getting named off now before the top 10. Sorry SEC, but you really weren't all that relevant (cept Bammer) until recently. It was all Big 8 and the domers.

[SteelClip49]

Michigan claims 11 titles (4 of which were from 1901-1904). The ultimate factor in determining the greatness of a program is based on championships and while they have numerous conference titles since 1936, they only have 2 national titles since 1936. Hell, Minnesota has 4 in the AP era and Michigan State has 2. All Michigan has to hold onto is their "claims" and all time wins.

If ESPN has OU in the top 5 then there is really no argument. If OU is placed behind USC, Alabama and Notre Dame then I will not have a problem with it. I will have a problem if NU, UT, tOSU or Miami are in front of OU. Don't be surprised if something happens....after all it is ESPN.

[CincySooner]

I think only going back to 1936 should put OU on fairly equal footing with bama and USC.

I don't know what effect of OU's probation-related penalties will have though.

[The Maestro]

6-10 is out now. Texas stands at 7th.

[soonerboomer93]

so that leave OU, USC, tOSU, ND and NU in the top 5

[Half a Hundred]

1. Notre Dame
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. Nebraska
5. Ohio State

That's the top 5. Book it.

[tbl]

I'm very surprised Bama is out of the top 5. Very surprised...

Based on that, here's how I see it:

5. tOSU
4. NU
3, 2, 1... ????

[badger]

Bammer had probation. That subtracts points... and yes, that will affect us too.

[soonermix]

in the chat yesterday i believe that we were penalized the most (tied with suc) with -29

[SbOrOiNaEnR]

1. Notre Dame
2. USC
3. Oklahoma
4. Nebraska
5. Ohio State

That's the top 5. Book it.


I'm thinking you switch USC and OU, and Nebraska and Ohio State. Nobody's touching Notre Dame, but I feel like we would have the best shot.

1. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma
3. USC
4. Ohio State
5. Nebraska

[King Crimson]

I'm very surprised Bama is out of the top 5. Very surprised...

Based on that, here's how I see it:

5. tOSU
4. NU
3, 2, 1... ????

i don't see how Bama is not in the top 5 either.

[virginiasooner]

1. Notre Dame
2. Oklahoma
3. Nebraska
4. USC
5. Ohio State

Yeah, the Domeheads stink now, but they were good for years (even without going to bowl games). Nebraska is a consistent home sellout. Some posters are surprised by Alabama being out of the top five. I'm surprised by the lack of Penn State. And I HATE HATE HATE ranking USC ahead of Ohio State, but let's face it: the trojans are better over the last twenty years (and I just threw up a bit in my mouth).

[fadada1]

Bammer had probation. That subtracts points... and yes, that will affect us too.

usc should be left out of it given their stunt with bush. that sh*t is just plain wrong - i hope they get clobbered for it.

that'll keep them out of the top 50.

[Harry Beanbag]

Is there a link to this somewhere?

[TopDawg]

Is there a link to this somewhere?

Right here (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849028)

I like our chances of being #1 or #2. My guess is that we'll end up at 2 behind Notre Dame. Because of the points system (where having the best record in conference is worth points), we may be the reason USC finishes ahead of Nebraska.

[josh09]

I'm just interested to see what ESPN is going to write about us that's POSITIVE haha

[Octavian]

1. Notre Dame


2a. Oklahoma
2b. USC
2c. Alabama



Very surprised that Alabama was not in the Top 4. At least in my eyes, there's a sharp dropoff after Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and Alabama.


Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, and Texas can't match up nearly as well with Notre Dame's resume as the previous three.


I'll bet ESPN's list will look like:

1. USC
2. ND
3. OU
4. Ohio St.
5. Nebraska



Not having Bama in the Top 5 really damages the list's legitimacy.

[spatton713]

1. ND
2. OU
3. SUC
4. NEB
5. OSU
thats what it will be but it shouuuld read

1. OU
2. ND
3. SUC
4. NEB
5. OSU

[Desert Sapper]

It's ESPN. Isn't SC guaranteed the top spot in any poll they do?

[IBleedCrimson]

It's ESPN. Isn't SC guaranteed the top spot in any poll they do?

that was my understanding

[JLEW1818]

tebow
tebow
tebow
tebow

[Collier11]

OU is #1 overall, #3 BCS era, the results were leaked apparently???

[Collier11]

School BCS Rank BCS Points All-time Rank All-time Points

USC 1 513 2 1897

Ohio State 2 428 3 1655

Oklahoma 3 393 1 1968

Florida 4 349 15 834

Miami (FL) 5 346 10 1109

Florida St 6 338 9 1110

LSU 7 296 13 926

Texas 8 295 7 1494

Georgia 9 228 14 888

Va Tech 10 226 37 303

[JLEW1818]

i'm ready for sept 5th.... WOW AND I THOUGHT I LIKED COLLEGE FOOTBALL A LOT LAST YEAR???

[TopDawg]

It's out. Here's the list:

1) OU (1968 pts)
2) USC (1897)
3) Ohio State (1655)
4) Notre Dame (1579)
5) Nebraska (1553)

Pretty big dropoff after USC.


1. Oklahoma Sooners
Total points: 1,968
Positives: When you look at the big picture of college football since 1936, no program has achieved greatness as consistently as Oklahoma. We didn't even count the fact that Oklahoma owns the longest win streak in FBS history (47) or leads the nation with a .765 winning percentage since World War II. The 1956 Oklahoma team catapulted the Sooners past Notre Dame to the top of the Prestige Rankings, and it's been in the top spot ever since. OU's seven national titles have spanned four decades. The Sooners have finished in the final poll's top 5 an astounding 29 times. But the real fuel for OU's rise to the top of our rankings has been its conference dominance. The Sooners finished the regular season with at least a share of their conference's best record a stunning 39 times, seven more than any other program in the country.
Negatives: Oklahoma was downright mediocre in the '90s. The Sooners ranked 51st in that decade's rankings, directly behind Hawaii. OU also didn't have a single major bowl win and suffered through three losing seasons. The Oklahoma program also has been punished by the NCAA to varying degrees six separate times in its history.
Through the decades: Through 1958: 1st | 1968: 1st | 1978: 1st | 1988: 1st | 1998: 1st
Did you know? Oklahoma has been voted the No. 1 team in the country by the AP a record 97 times, including twice this past season to break a tie with Notre Dame.

[TopDawg]

This part's pretty cool:


Through the decades: Through 1958: 1st | 1968: 1st | 1978: 1st | 1988: 1st | 1998: 1st

If they would've used this same formula after any of the 10-year segments since they started it, we'd be in first. Even immediately after the Shnelly/Blake years.

[Collier11]

Here is a different but really cool article about OU from Maisel

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3852829

[Knippz]

Wow, how wrong all of you were. :P

[soonermix]

really glad to be wrong here...

did you see the through the decades?

'58 = 1
'68 = 1
'78 = 1
'88 = 1
'98 = 1

that gives me a naughty in my pants

[bri]

I still can't get over the fact that Tulsa is stuck behind Baylor. If only we were batting better than .333 in conference championship games, we'd have the edge. :D

[Desert Sapper]

For once, I think the ESPNuts got it right.

I actually think they would be constantly slobbering all over us if 2003, 2004, and 2007 hadn't ended so disastrously.

Thank God ND has sucked since 1994.