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Collier11
1/18/2009, 08:37 PM
The dems attack the repubs all day and night for the state of the economy, fiscal irresponsibility, etc. etc. etc. So how does the new administration begin? Not only are they throwing the most expensive inauguration EVER, but it is more expensive than any other by 3x. Thats right, 3 TIMES!!! This is further proof of the hipocricy and idiocy of our government and those running it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl204

Curly Bill
1/18/2009, 08:44 PM
...but this inauguration is just so...HISTORICAL!!!

soonerhubs
1/18/2009, 08:50 PM
Just ask NBC, Anne Curry, and all the inspirational music playing in the background. This group is the most pathetically hypocritical bunch of "journalists" the world has ever seen.

Curly Bill
1/18/2009, 08:54 PM
I haven't bothered watching any news lately, and prolly won't for a week or so. If Tebowgasm wasn't bad enough, now we have Obamagasm to live through.

KC//CRIMSON
1/18/2009, 09:01 PM
Grapes are sour.

Collier11
1/18/2009, 09:04 PM
I would say the same thing if Mccain were doing this, the government is "preaching" smarter spending, not buying stuff you cant afford, etc and then they go out and do the exact opposite

Curly Bill
1/18/2009, 09:06 PM
I buy the sweet grapes, I also get the seedless variety. I like grapes.

Viking Kitten
1/18/2009, 09:11 PM
You might want to point out that inaugural celebrations are not funded with taxpayers' dollars. The inaugural committee raises the money through private donations.

Viking Kitten
1/18/2009, 09:11 PM
Freaky deaky double post.

StoopTroup
1/18/2009, 09:12 PM
You do realise this is the Executive Branch your talking about and it's the most Powerful Branch in the World...and now that there is someone different in there...your calling BS?

Now if your going to start calling BS on excess...I think having a 2nd Inauguration for a sitting Prez ranks right near the top IMO.

Get that stopped the next time it happens and I'll go along with you on breaking from tradition on a First Inauguration.

StoopTroup
1/18/2009, 09:16 PM
Freaky deaky double post.

If you think that's freaky...wait until you see who's in the Super Bowl.

Curly Bill
1/18/2009, 09:22 PM
You do realise this is the Executive Branch your talking about and it's the most Powerful Branch in the World...and now that there is someone different in there...your calling BS?

Now if your going to start calling BS on excess...I think having a 2nd Inauguration for a sitting Prez ranks right near the top IMO.

Get that stopped the next time it happens and I'll go along with you on breaking from tradition on a First Inauguration.

...but didn't the soon to be occupant campaign on some sort of promise of CHANGE? :confused:

soonerscuba
1/18/2009, 09:30 PM
It appears the free market has decided that Obama's inauguration is worth three times that of Bush's. Why don't you move back to Moscow, you treasonous commie?

soonerhubs
1/18/2009, 09:31 PM
Grapes are sour.

Ahh... but the left are always good sports.

See Movies such as Recount, Farenheit 9/11, or W.

Then, of course, there is the perfect example of class in the website moveon.org.


:rolleyes:

I will pray for this President and wish nothing but success for his administration, but the media never took this type of approach for a presidential inauguration until now. It's obvious they are agenda driven and it's sad that no one can be trusted. I have yet to find an unbiased media outlet, and yes this includes the Right Wing operations of Rupert Murdock.

I challenge journalists out there to at least make an effort to suppress bias.

bluedogok
1/18/2009, 09:42 PM
I would say the same thing if Mccain were doing this, the government is "preaching" smarter spending, not buying stuff you cant afford, etc and then they go out and do the exact opposite
Not when it involves the gov't.....that includes BOTH parties. Both parties are equal opportunity whores.


You might want to point out that inaugural celebrations are not funded with taxpayers' dollars. The inaugural committee raises the money through private donations.
...and I'm sure that those people will not be expecting "something" for their "donations" :rolleyes:

Just like the Talking Heads song...
Same as it ever was, Same as it ever was...

StoopTroup
1/18/2009, 09:43 PM
...but didn't the soon to be occupant campaign on some sort of promise of CHANGE? :confused:

He just said it might take a few years...lol

Selective listening ain't gonna help you folks with those anger issues. :D

OKC-SLC
1/18/2009, 09:43 PM
i like Hubler.

I say we keep him.

bri
1/18/2009, 10:09 PM
Hey, if we don't overspend on the inauguration, the recession wins.

OklahomaTuba
1/18/2009, 10:28 PM
Yeah, nothing wrong with having a $150 Million party in the middle of an economic meltdown.

bri
1/18/2009, 10:30 PM
WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM?!?

OklahomaTuba
1/18/2009, 10:32 PM
And if you subscribe to HBO, you too can experience Freedom as well.

bri
1/18/2009, 10:39 PM
If you don't want to support the War on Recession, then move to Canada.

Curly Bill
1/18/2009, 10:53 PM
If you don't want to support the War on Recession, then move to Canada.

I thought Brack was gonna get us out of the war business?

bluedogok
1/18/2009, 11:01 PM
Yeah, nothing wrong with having a $150 Million party in the middle of an economic meltdown.
Ya know the Wall Street types are still burning through that much bailout money weekly for themselves.

GottaHavePride
1/19/2009, 01:30 AM
Again, it's private funds. People can spend their money any way they want.

bri
1/19/2009, 01:33 AM
YOU DON'T GET IT!!!

Vaevictis
1/19/2009, 05:07 AM
I can't stop laughing.

On the one hand, the hypocrisy from the Dems is obnoxious, since, you know, this is a crapton of money on what is essentially a big party, when you know, that money could be spent keeping people in their houses, medical care, etc.

On the other hand, the hypocrisy from Republicans decrying what is essentially private funds being spent in the way the private donors want it spent. DONT TELL ME HOW TO SPEND MY MONEY, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE. Hey, what are you doing spending that much money on a party for a Democrat?!@?#!

Delicious. Delicious, I say.

Okla-homey
1/19/2009, 06:23 AM
I can't stop laughing.

On the one hand, the hypocrisy from the Dems is obnoxious, since, you know, this is a crapton of money on what is essentially a big party, when you know, that money could be spent keeping people in their houses, medical care, etc.

On the other hand, the hypocrisy from Republicans decrying what is essentially private funds being spent in the way the private donors want it spent. DONT TELL ME HOW TO SPEND MY MONEY, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE. Hey, what are you doing spending that much money on a party for a Democrat?!@?#!

Delicious. Delicious, I say.

To be fair, there is quite a bit of public money being spent on this fiesta. I simply don't have a number immediately to hand. In any event, you can surely see that if JSM had won, and, amidst the worst economic times since Dickens' England (or so we're told), spent even half this much, the hue and cry from the opposite camp would have been deafening. Of course, in the McCains' case, Cindy could have just written a check to cover it all. Rather like Oprah could.;)

Chuck Bao
1/19/2009, 09:00 AM
I don’t know if this largely private funded shindig can be in excess.

What if the TV coverage of the inauguration is watched by a billion people around the world?

What if the global TV coverage helps restore some of America’s lost popularity in the world and restore America’s long-standing role as a beacon of hope?

What if this global TV coverage helps restore confidence in a democratic system, especially in countries where democracy is now under fire?

Besides, it is historic – every peaceful handover of power of the executive branch is historic in our 230+ year experiment with democracy.

This is no royal wedding, the Oscars or World Cup. It is much more important – the taking of the oath of office of supposedly the world’s most powerful man.

Regardless of the cost, the global PR potential is priceless.

Let’s celebrate and broadcast around the world the success of democracy, our American democracy. So, bring on the star power, the marching bands, the gospel choruses, the fashion critics, the cheerleaders and do this thing the American way.

Hot Rod
1/19/2009, 09:07 AM
"150 MEEEEEEEEEELYAN DOLLARS!" - Dr. Evil

TheHumanAlphabet
1/19/2009, 11:05 AM
The dems attack the repubs all day and night for the state of the economy, fiscal irresponsibility, etc. etc. etc. So how does the new administration begin? Not only are they throwing the most expensive inauguration EVER, but it is more expensive than any other by 3x. Thats right, 3 TIMES!!! This is further proof of the hipocricy and idiocy of our government and those running it.

Didn't you know, Oblahma is the second coming...He is the leader of the New Church of "The Change"...It is the new state religion on all the TVs. I guess the revolution has come and IT IS BEING TELEVISED...

bri
1/19/2009, 11:13 AM
Man, you guys really hate Obama.

I mean, as much as I disagreed with Dubya, I never hated the man himself. I'd actually like to kick back and watch a ball game with the guy now that he's got some free time. But you guys, it's like Obama's very existence is a deeply personal insult to you all. :D

OklahomaTuba
1/19/2009, 11:33 AM
A lib complaining about Obama bashing. Now THAT is irony!!

Obama is sort of like Tim Tebow X 1000. With the exception that Tebow actually has done something in his life besides give a nice speech and smile.

bri
1/19/2009, 11:48 AM
Who was complaining? I was just pointing out a fact. It's you lot that spent the last 8 years complaining, and now you're all downright apoplectic.

Collier11
1/19/2009, 12:12 PM
I donít know if this largely private funded shindig can be in excess.

What if the TV coverage of the inauguration is watched by a billion people around the world?

What if the global TV coverage helps restore some of Americaís lost popularity in the world and restore Americaís long-standing role as a beacon of hope?

What if this global TV coverage helps restore confidence in a democratic system, especially in countries where democracy is now under fire?

Besides, it is historic Ė every peaceful handover of power of the executive branch is historic in our 230+ year experiment with democracy.

This is no royal wedding, the Oscars or World Cup. It is much more important Ė the taking of the oath of office of supposedly the worldís most powerful man.

Regardless of the cost, the global PR potential is priceless.

Letís celebrate and broadcast around the world the success of democracy, our American democracy. So, bring on the star power, the marching bands, the gospel choruses, the fashion critics, the cheerleaders and do this thing the American way.

You dont think those who donated bookoos of money arent going to want something in return? Regardless, you are dealing in speculation

Collier11
1/19/2009, 12:13 PM
I dont hate Obama and I will support him as my POTUS, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade

Collier11
1/19/2009, 12:14 PM
A lib complaining about Obama bashing. Now THAT is irony!!

Obama is sort of like The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah X 1000. With the exception that The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah actually has done something in his life besides give a nice speech and smile.

Tebow didnt circumcise Obama?

Whet
1/19/2009, 12:30 PM
This article from Bloomberg describes the government's role in this big shindig - from this, you can infer the additional costs to the taxpayers, for the extravagant event.

Read the article HERE (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=arV52TnPtSII&refer=politics)

I found some interesting items, as well, in the article:


While most of the crowds are expected to be in a celebratory mood, the Washington Peace Center (http://www.washingtonpeacecenter.org/) is staging a rally of 3,000 outside the FBI building, calling for President George W. Bush’s (http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=George%0AW.+Bush%3Fs&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:D:S:d1) arrest.
The group is protesting the Iraq invasion and the use of interrogation techniques on terror suspects that critics said amounted to torture.
At the other end of the political spectrum, the Westboro Baptist Church, a Topeka, Kansas-based group known for its anti- gay slogans and its description of Obama as “an antichrist,” will picket at a Washington park.



Obama supporters drawn to the president-elect’s promise to make government more transparent and welcoming may be jarred when they see the Mall, which in the days preceding the event is beginning to resemble a fortress wrapped in fencing and fortified with concrete jersey barriers. Security officials said the record crowds will make these security measures essential.


Private funds are not paying for all the additional governmental expenses related to the excessive celebration.

Chuck Bao
1/19/2009, 12:54 PM
You dont think those who donated bookoos of money arent going to want something in return? Regardless, you are dealing in speculation

Youíd be right about the speculation and it could just be wishful thinking on my part. Truthfully, I have no idea of the public interest and potential global viewership of a TV broadcast of the US inauguration ceremony.

But, Iím sitting here in Thailand and hearing all sorts of stuff like Thailand isnít ready for democracy. That people are too stupid to elect the best leaders. The fact is that some people are rallying against democracy. That part isnít speculation.

There was surprisingly strong public interest within Thailand and I guess around the world during the US presidential debates and the US election. That part isnít speculation.

Some major country leaders have openly stated that the best thing that the US can do is to restore US international credibility so that they can openly support a US peace / anti-terrorism led agenda and sell it to their own constituents. That part isnít speculation.

I hold onto the hope that people around the world are the same and we all want peace and prosperity and a representative and an accountable government. That part is pure speculation.

swardboy
1/19/2009, 01:04 PM
50,000 security people at taxpayer expense isn't defendable.

I'm reminded of the North Korean massive military parades...while the nation starves......

Just get to work turning us into a socialist state Barack.

Chuck Bao
1/19/2009, 01:05 PM
This article from Bloomberg describes the government's role in this big shindig - from this, you can infer the additional costs to the taxpayers, for the extravagant event.

Read the article HERE (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=arV52TnPtSII&refer=politics)

I found some interesting items, as well, in the article:

Private funds are not paying for all the additional governmental expenses related to the excessive celebration.


Do you actually listen to what you're saying?

How on earth could it be described as a waste of taxpayers money to provide security to Americans going to our nation's capital to witness the swearing in of a new US president?

If that's the case, let's just forget about a Super Bowl.

OklahomaTuba
1/19/2009, 02:25 PM
Looks like the Hope and Change Express will get funded by beneficiaries of the government bailout pushed by The One and the Donks:


The biggest group of donors were none other than the recently bailed-out Wall Street executives and employees.

“The finance sector is well represented, despite its recent troubles,” Ritsch said. “Those who worked in finance still managed to pull together nearly $7 million for the inauguration.”

The donors will get some of the best seats in the house for the inauguration, as well as admittance to some of the best balls and other events.

“I don’t think that they’re going to get a whole lot of face time with the new president himself,” Ritsch said, “but they are certainly establishing themselves from day one as his biggest financial supporters. And if there’s something they need or to tell him down the road, they will have an easier time doing that than everyone else.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Inauguration/story?id=6665946&page=1


CHANGE!

SoonerBorn68
1/19/2009, 02:38 PM
Ah, the former attack dogs turn apologists & the man hasn't even taken office yet.

Perfect.

OklahomaTuba
1/19/2009, 02:43 PM
You know its going to fun when the Chief of Staff nearly had to resign for bribery and his man in charge of taxes doesn't even pay taxes himself.

And we haven't even had kick-off yet!!

SoonerBorn68
1/19/2009, 02:45 PM
Chapstick, dems?

Whet
1/19/2009, 02:49 PM
Do you actually listen to what you're saying?

How on earth could it be described as a waste of taxpayers money to provide security to Americans going to our nation's capital to witness the swearing in of a new US president?

If that's the case, let's just forget about a Super Bowl.

What? I guess I didn't express myself as well as I thought.

I am not against providing security for the event. I am pointing out the large, expansive event has caused the government to INCREASE its presence, preparation, planning, and utilization of Federal/local assets that, otherwise would not have been required. That is an additional expense to the taxpayers!

soonerscuba
1/19/2009, 02:52 PM
AObama is sort of like The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah X 1000. With the exception that The Right Reverend Tim T. Messiah actually has done something in his life besides give a nice speech and smile.So, you are saying that a 21 year-old events planning major at UF has done more with his life than a Harvard educated Senator who was just elected to the most powerful position in the world in a landslide?

Dude, I don't like Bush, but I would venture that he has done more with his life than any single person who has ever stepped foot on OU's campus.

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/19/2009, 03:24 PM
Socialism can't be all bad...it does have Social in it and every loves that Drunk Social guy

Vaevictis
1/19/2009, 04:13 PM
To be fair, there is quite a bit of public money being spent on this fiesta.

Okay, so let's talk about how much that is, and whether it's reasonable or not.


I simply don't have a number immediately to hand. In any event, you can surely see that if JSM had won, and, amidst the worst economic times since Dickens' England (or so we're told), spent even half this much, the hue and cry from the opposite camp would have been deafening. Of course, in the McCains' case, Cindy could have just written a check to cover it all. Rather like Oprah could.;)

Oh, I totally agree. It's why I can't stop laughing. The hypocrisy is comical, even more so because you've got it coming from both sides all at once.

stoops the eternal pimp
1/19/2009, 04:15 PM
I thought this thread was about my family getaway to Great Wolf Lodge this weekend, paid for by the gubment...

olevetonahill
1/19/2009, 04:39 PM
I wonder if I show up at this shindig with a Big Ole jug of OVJ , I will be welcomed as warm as I was at the TGs :D

soonerboomer93
1/19/2009, 04:52 PM
You might want to point out that inaugural celebrations are not funded with taxpayers' dollars. The inaugural committee raises the money through private donations.

Apparently, per the the link, that's only going to account for $45 million of the estimated $150 million this will run

But hey, atleast they're trying to make counterfeiting the tickets a federal crime.

SCOUT
1/19/2009, 05:49 PM
I love how transparent the bias of media outlets have become. Apparently GWB is extravagant and wasteful in his inaugural spending (not even close to BHO's by the way) but BHO is just celebrating in a responsible manner. Surprisingly enough, the New York Times had an article in 2005 decrying the spending of the Pubs. I didn't see the article that was critical of BHO yet. It must be stuck in proofreading. Here is the link and the text:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/11/opinion/11tue3.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=victor's+spoils&st=nyt

Victor's Spoils


Published: January 11, 2005

At the rate President Bush's supporters are giving money, his second inauguration threatens to stand out in the history books like the common folks' muddy boot prints on the White House furniture at Andrew Jackson's gala. The $40 million record for inaugural partying set four years ago for Mr. Bush is expected to be shattered this month. The only limits for this binge of giving are the private inaugural committee's maximum of $250,000 for corporate donors (more than 40 have pledged so far) and $100,000 for individuals (60 and counting).


Advertisement
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Ordinary citizens might have hoped that the overriding issue in Washington - the perilous Iraq war, with its drain on the nation's blood and treasure - would dictate restraint. But plans for the four-day extravaganza roll forward with nine celebratory balls being underwritten by the usual corporate and fat-cat supplicants in the political power mill.

There's nothing new in Washington's triumphalist celebrations, festooned with price tags for access, but war usually mutes the singing and dancing. Not this year.

The inaugural's stated theme - "Celebrating Freedom, Honoring Service" - is spin-doctoring in the extreme and hardly justifies the unrestrained lucre-fest. Planners did take care to create a "Commander in Chief Ball," free to the military and their families. But that only underscores the bad taste. Officials say "freedom everywhere" is the point of the celebrations. The freedom most obviously honored is that of American businesses, eagerly writing checks to get ever closer to the election winners

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/19/2009, 05:51 PM
To be fair, I would prefer they would spend the money on something fun like this, where at least some folks are getting some food and a chance to grind on women over giving Citibank 80$B and getting a "oh trust us we are using it...and can we get 40$B more!!"

soonerboomer93
1/19/2009, 05:55 PM
to be fair, I have a problem with them spending money on both items

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/19/2009, 05:58 PM
To be Fair, I did say Prefer

Vaevictis
1/19/2009, 06:13 PM
Apparently GWB is extravagant and wasteful in his inaugural spending (not even close to BHO's by the way) but BHO is just celebrating in a responsible manner.

Actually, it is.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/us/politics/06donors.html?scp=1&sq=Obama%E2%80%99s%20Inauguration%20Fund-Raising%20Tops&st=cse

If you read through it, you'll find:


Ms. Douglass of the committee said the expenses this year would be greater than those for any previous inauguration. In modern times, inaugurations have been financed by a combination of public and private money. In 2005, Mr. Bush raised $42.3 million from about 15,000 donors for festivities; the federal government and the District of Columbia spent a combined $115.5 million, most of it for security, the swearing-in ceremony, cleanup and for a holiday for federal workers.

Viking Kitten
1/19/2009, 06:32 PM
Apparently, per the the link, that's only going to account for $45 million of the estimated $150 million this will run



The initial post in this thread made the claim that tomorrow's ceremony will cost three times as much as any previous inauguration. The poster is repeating an apples and oranges comparison that has been getting repeated:

"Obama's inauguration=$150 million. Bush's 2005 inauguration=$42 million."

But the problem is that Bush's $42 million figure (privately raised) does not include the cost of security, Obama's however does. Bush's security cost the taxpayers in the neighborhood of $115 million. Thus both ceremonies are actually costing about the same amount of money.

While whether we should spend that much on either inauguration is certainly a subject for debate, I am merely pointing out that Obama's is not costing significantly more.

olevetonahill
1/19/2009, 06:33 PM
So I guess me and a Jug of OVJ wont be welcome ?:(

I Am Right
1/19/2009, 07:02 PM
Grapes are sour.

From the same ilk that bashed Bush for spending 40 Mil 4 yrs ago. Doesn't work, you can't have it both ways.

I Am Right
1/19/2009, 07:04 PM
CALLER: It's great to talk to you, Rush. I want to start my call off with congratulations on your Pittsburgh Steelers. We love our football. Those are manly men.

RUSH: I'll say.

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: Exactly right.

CALLER: Yes. I also want to say, I want to start by saying, there's an article that came out in the San Francisco Chronicle by Debra Saunders.

RUSH: Debra Saunders is a friend of mine, by the way.

CALLER: Oh, good! Oh, good! All right, see? I knew she had to be somebody good because it started off that Bush "showed us that the USA is no paper tiger," and it starts off, "From the day Bush took office, the long knives were out," and that "Al-Qaeda members had told our intelligence officials that they never thought Bush would respond to the 9/11 attacks as ferociously as he did," and it also quotes, "To trash Bush was to belong." So this call is about, I want to bid my commander-in-chief a fond and loving farewell, and I'm probably going to get emotional because, "I want to thank you, Mr. President, George Walker Bush, for keeping us all safe. I can truly say this: You have read those intelligence reports. You know and you have always known the attempts that this enemy has made on our own soil throughout your entire presidency. You truly have protected us. You love our families. You love our sons, our daughters, our nieces, and especially our nephews, as if they were your own, and it's a testament of how raised: so humble and so proud. Wealthy or not, you're one of the most humble men, you and your father, that I think this country has ever known." I mean, Rush, the story that you ate lunch with him and he had peanut butter and jelly.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: I mean...

RUSH: He likes... It's either peanut butter and jelly or baloney sandwiches, he likes. I forget. I think he likes the red jelly, not the purple jelly, and he said to me, "The peanut butter is good for you, Limbaugh. You should try it."

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: Peanut butter and jelly on rye. And you mentioned, by the way, Colleen, intelligence reports. What is the theme that we have heard from President Bush as he's easing his way out of the White House? He continues his farewell address, other remarks he's making publicly have to do with how successful he feels in keeping America safe. There has not been an attack on our soil. It's clearly the thing that he took most seriously. I doubt we can understand what it's like to be president of the United States, having taken an oath to defend and protect the Constitution and the people and have 9/11 happen on your watch. You don't know what's happening the next two hours. You don't know what they've got planned the next day, the next week. You have to put that at the top of your priority list and make sure that another one of those things happening on our soil does not happen.

He pulled that off. He succeeded. And I therefore, all through this transition period, I guarantee you, he's been reading these intelligence reports, because whether he's on his way out or not, that remains his number one objective. And as the president-elect, Barack Obama has been reading the same intelligence reports. Whatever Bush is getting, Obama is getting them, too. We haven't heard a word from him about it. It's not on his radar to talk about this, at least at this stage. He's going to have to at some point, because the threats are there.

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/19/2009, 07:09 PM
The first rule of politics is to be hypocrite when it suits your argument ;)

I Am Right
1/19/2009, 07:54 PM
The first rule of politics is to be hypocrite when it suits your argument ;)

Pot meet kettle

Okla-homey
1/19/2009, 08:08 PM
Can we all agree that if BHO manages to get re-lected in 2012, we can forego the usual inaugural baccanalia? If memory serves, FDR pulled the plug on re-election inaugural shin-diggery at some point in his series of four inaugurations. Methinks that's a thing to be emulated by all future second-termers. Especially if Obamanomics and his forgetful Treasury Secretary tappee don't pull the economy out of the current doldrums by then.

Or, alternatively, a kegger on the back lawn for a few hundred WH staff paid for by passing a hat around the East Wing. srsly.

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/19/2009, 08:31 PM
Pot meet kettle


Ouch that hurt...hold up...it made no sense

The Right is hypocrites
The Left is hypocrites
Pretty sure middle of the road are hypocrites even when it comes to politics ;)

A Sooner in Texas
1/19/2009, 08:41 PM
So I guess me and a Jug of OVJ wont be welcome ?:(

Who WOULDN'T welcome you and a jug of OVJ? Especially when it's cold as hell. :D

soonerscuba
1/19/2009, 08:46 PM
Can we all agree that if BHO manages to get re-lected in 2012, we can forego the usual inaugural baccanalia? If memory serves, FDR pulled the plug on re-election inaugural shin-diggery at some point in his series of four inaugurations. Methinks that's a thing to be emulated by all future second-termers. Especially if Obamanomics and his forgetful Treasury Secretary tappee don't pull the economy out of the current doldrums by then.

Or, alternatively, a kegger on the back lawn for a few hundred WH staff paid for by passing a hat around the East Wing. srsly.That is actually a terrific idea, seeing how modest, humble, and adverse to self-aggrandizing politicians are I really think this never has any chance of actually happening. It is a good idea though.

olevetonahill
1/19/2009, 08:52 PM
Who WOULDN'T welcome you and a jug of OVJ? Especially when it's cold as hell. :D

You saying Im Fat and could keep Ya warm ??????:eek:

MR2-Sooner86
1/19/2009, 09:02 PM
I dont hate Obama and I will support him as my POTUS, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade

THAT'S RACIST!!!

How dare you insult black Jesus!!!

A Sooner in Texas
1/19/2009, 09:25 PM
You saying Im Fat and could keep Ya warm ??????:eek:


I was thinking more along the lines of the OVJ. :D