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SicEmBaylor
1/15/2009, 07:36 PM
Just to remind everyone, the President gives his Farewell address tonight at 7.

Boomer Mooner
1/15/2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Just watched it.

walkoffsooner
1/15/2009, 08:23 PM
Don't let the door hit you in the ---

olevetonahill
1/15/2009, 08:31 PM
Peeps Can and will say what they want about Him .
Ive been thru Recessions Before and Im sure we will have more in the future .
Ya cant lay all the Blame On GW.
Less than 8 Months Into His Presidency we Have 9-11 .
we have had NO further attacks .

I hope and Pray Obama doesn't Have to experience anything like 9-11 During his Presidency .
God Bless America .

Sooner02
1/15/2009, 10:09 PM
Good riddance, it wasn't nice knowing you.

IBleedCrimson
1/15/2009, 10:26 PM
I hope and Pray Obama doesn't Have to experience anything like 9-11 During his Presidency .
God Bless America .

amen. the country does not need something like that, especially right now with the economy

AggieTool
1/15/2009, 10:32 PM
History will be kind to Bush.

Soonerus
1/15/2009, 11:14 PM
I think people are too harsh on Bush...

KC//CRIMSON
1/15/2009, 11:59 PM
http://www.theboxset.com/images/reviewcaptures/612capture_tombstone03.jpg

Well, bye!

proud gonzo
1/16/2009, 12:29 AM
oh drat, you mean I missed it? :rolleyes?

OklahomaTuba
1/16/2009, 12:38 AM
No attacks since 9/11.

Amazing achievement IMO.

BudSooner
1/16/2009, 07:38 AM
Nevermind.

olevetonahill
1/16/2009, 08:02 AM
Love Him , Hate him . Most of us are In the Middle of those 2 options .
He got Handed a full Plate right Outta the Box . and Done good with what he had . Yup He could Have done Better . But couldn't all Of Us with The Benefit Of Hind site ?
History will Redeem him to a Better status than hes Leaving with .
I for one am Glad we had a Pres. who Had the Balls to Make the Decisions he Had to Make .
Now I wish Pres. Obama a Better Chance. God Bless AMERICA .
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090116/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_s_farewell

C&CDean
1/16/2009, 12:24 PM
I watched it. He bumbled his way through it - as always. GWB's biggest fault is his completely craptasticular speaking ability. That being said, I voted for him twice, and would vote for him again if he could run.

All the ninnies on the left (and a lot of them on the right) have rode this poor bastard into the ground over the war on terror, the economy, yada, yada, yada. Nothing has changed (other than gas going down) and nothing will change (other than another terrorist attack or maybe some gun hatin' action) when Obama steps in - but those same haters of Bush will be praising the Obama like he magically fixed the country.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are stupid. Really, really stupid. And liberals are the stupidest of the stupid.

85Sooner
1/16/2009, 12:35 PM
I watched it. He bumbled his way through it - as always. GWB's biggest fault is his completely craptasticular speaking ability. That being said, I voted for him twice, and would vote for him again if he could run.

All the ninnies on the left (and a lot of them on the right) have rode this poor bastard into the ground over the war on terror, the economy, yada, yada, yada. Nothing has changed (other than gas going down) and nothing will change (other than another terrorist attack or maybe some gun hatin' action) when Obama steps in - but those same haters of Bush will be praising the Obama like he magically fixed the country.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are stupid. Really, really stupid. And liberals are the stupidest of the stupid.

well said

Red October
1/16/2009, 03:26 PM
Less than 8 Months Into His Presidency we Have 9-11

Later on the US got nailed with one of the worst natural disasters in US history, not to mention in the homelad of where people hold Obama as thier savior...as in NO Mayor Ray Nagin's self proclaimed "Chocolate City"

Its a shame W got the blame for all those people who ignored evacuation warnings and had to be rescued from the rooftops..

I am looking forward to what the history books are going to say about the years 2000 - 2015...

jkjsooner
1/16/2009, 03:32 PM
Here's a summary of his speech:

Terrorists, terrorists, 9-11, 9-11, terrorists, 9-11, terrorists, terrorists.....

I guess go with what works.

Red October
1/16/2009, 03:33 PM
Less than 8 Months Into His Presidency we Have 9-11

Later on the US got nailed with one of the worst natural disasters in US history, not to mention in the homelad of where people hold Obama as thier savior...as in NO Mayor Ray Nagin's self proclaimed "Chocolate City"

Its a shame W got the blame for all those people who ignored evacuation warnings and had to be rescued from the rooftops..

I am looking forward to what the history books are going to say about the years 2000 - 2015...

W did okay in my book.

jkjsooner
1/16/2009, 03:43 PM
Nothing has changed (other than gas going down) and nothing will change (other than another terrorist attack or maybe some gun hatin' action) when Obama steps in - but those same haters of Bush will be praising the Obama like he magically fixed the country.

Maybe, just maybe we'll have some common sense regulation of Wall Street. Bush, Clinton, Greenspan all fell into this trap that any and all regulation is bad.

They all share a lot of blame in the horrific economic problems we have now and Bush is no exception. (Bush was so blinded by idealogical "no regulation" stance that he was powerless to see this coming until he had to turn our country into an almost socialist state.)

How's that limited regulation doin' for us now? Kinda backfired into full blown socialism didn't it? Wouldn't it have been nice to control Wall Street just a little five years ago?

And don't look now but pretty much every economist is saying that we're in worse shape than we were in October. Looks like the $350 billion just ain't cutting it.

I don't want oppressive regulation but history has shown us that banks will not act in their own best interest. That's fine if their failure doesn't bring us all down but when it does we have a right to control them.

You think that CEO who is getting tens of millions of dollars a year to take excessive risks cares about his own company's (or our economy's) long term financial health?

Off tangent, but, yes, the next administration might just be better - even if we don't see it for several years due to the mess the previous two admins left us. I realize all these guys are taking tons of Wall Street money so I'm not too optimistic but it can't be worse than the current admin...

Sooner02
1/16/2009, 04:25 PM
Here's a summary of his speech:

Terrorists, terrorists, 9-11, 9-11, terrorists, 9-11, terrorists, terrorists.....

I guess go with what works.
What else does he have? Overjoyed he's gone.

Sooner02
1/16/2009, 04:29 PM
No attacks since 9/11.

Amazing achievement IMO.
Almost as amazing an achievement as having the 9/11 attack 8 months into his presidency isn't it.


The White House said tonight that President Bush had been warned by American intelligence agencies in early August that Osama bin Laden was seeking to hijack aircraft...

''It is widely known that we had information that bin Laden wanted to attack the United States or United States interests abroad,'' Ari Fleischer, the president's press secretary, said."

texas bandman
1/16/2009, 04:33 PM
Bush was an ideologue, little flexibility. I'm glad he term limited out. I really think that both sides are going to be suprised at how much of a pragmatist Obama is.

LosAngelesSooner
1/16/2009, 04:36 PM
History will be kind to Bush.
If calling him the 2nd worst President we've ever had instead of THE worst, then yes...I think it will be kind to him as well.

I think people are too harsh on Bush...
And I think he should be put in jail.

Sooner02
1/16/2009, 04:36 PM
And I think he should be put in jail.
He can even have a special prison all to himself in Cuba.

Sooner02
1/16/2009, 04:39 PM
Bush was an ideologue, little flexibility. I'm glad he term limited out. I really think that both sides are going to be suprised at how much of a pragmatist Obama is.
It'll be refreshing to have a government that works again. 2008 proved America rejects right wing ideologues.

OklahomaTuba
1/16/2009, 04:43 PM
Almost as amazing an achievement as having the 9/11 attack 8 months into his presidency isn't it.

You forgot to type your website bro.

911truth.com.

LosAngelesSooner
1/16/2009, 04:49 PM
That being said, I voted for him twice, and would vote for him again if he could run. *Ahem*


I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are stupid. Really, really stupid.
Couldn't

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Sooner02
1/16/2009, 04:50 PM
The topic of this thread alone is cause for celebration.

texas bandman
1/16/2009, 10:51 PM
And there was much jubilation!!

King Crimson
1/16/2009, 11:37 PM
funnier still, is on this board the posters who brow-beat anyone as "anti-american" who dared disagree with them about Bush in 02-03 and then jumped ship on the guy in the second term in favor of the self-styled "philosophical" true Reagan conservative moniker once the Iraq thing went south/was more complicated than "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

and are now back to praise Caesar. and accuse the dems and Obama of inventing hypocrisy, corruption, and abuse of the Bill of Rights.

meet the new Boss, same as....

I Am Right
1/17/2009, 10:21 AM
I watched it. He bumbled his way through it - as always. GWB's biggest fault is his completely craptasticular speaking ability. That being said, I voted for him twice, and would vote for him again if he could run.

All the ninnies on the left (and a lot of them on the right) have rode this poor bastard into the ground over the war on terror, the economy, yada, yada, yada. Nothing has changed (other than gas going down) and nothing will change (other than another terrorist attack or maybe some gun hatin' action) when Obama steps in - but those same haters of Bush will be praising the Obama like he magically fixed the country.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are stupid. Really, really stupid. And liberals are the stupidest of the stupid.

Based on this post, you did not watch the speech.

I Am Right
1/17/2009, 10:24 AM
If calling him the 2nd worst President we've ever had instead of THE worst, then yes...I think it will be kind to him as well.

And I think he should be put in jail.

I resolve to give President elect B Hussien Obama the same respect the left has given Bush the last 8 years.

JohnnyMack
1/17/2009, 10:44 AM
I resolve to give President elect B Hussien Obama the same respect the left has given Bush the last 8 years.

The typical intellect of your average right wing Okie.

soonerhubs
1/17/2009, 11:18 AM
And I think he should be put in jail.

He'd have to wait in line with the rest of the corrupt public officials, both dems and pubs. Including, but not limited to, Henry Paulson, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, William Jefferson Clinton, and obviously Ted Stevens. I almost forgot the guy who "forgets" to pay his taxes, Geithner.

adoniijahsooner
1/17/2009, 11:57 AM
As someone who was very excited that Obama had the chance to be elected president; I must say that there is much that concerns me about him. After reading more and more about his views and ideals, I am convinced that Obama believes his intelligence and ideology to be infallible truths that must be adhered to.

Watching Bush finish up his presidency started to become sad affair; because i realized the transparency and openness that bush exhibits, even if it was not always intentional. Bush is a great person from what i can tell, and Obama is someone who will run over people, albeit with a smile on his face, if they do not line up with company policy.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 12:43 PM
The typical intellect of your average right wing Okie.


So you think Obama should be given the benefit of doubt cus Bush sure as hell never did, wait I forget that 90% of the media are liberal lovers. The media should outwardly and unfairly hate and attack obama in just the same way, otherwise they arent doing their job of fair and honest and unbiased reporting

Collier11
1/17/2009, 12:48 PM
As someone who was very excited that Obama had the chance to be elected president; I must say that there is much that concerns me about him. After reading more and more about his views and ideals, I am convinced that Obama believes his intelligence and ideology to be infallible truths that must be adhered to.

Watching Bush finish up his presidency started to become sad affair; because i realized the transparency and openness that bush exhibits, even if it was not always intentional. Bush is a great person from what i can tell, and Obama is someone who will run over people, albeit with a smile on his face, if they do not line up with company policy.


So basically you are just now choosing to listen to one of the many things about Obama that is troublesome, im not coming after you but alot of this stuff was brought up before the election, alot of other stuff as well that is more troubling but every Dem I spoke with chose to ignore it cus Obama was the prophet of American goodness...

JohnnyMack
1/17/2009, 01:17 PM
So you think Obama should be given the benefit of doubt cus Bush sure as hell never did, wait I forget that 90% of the media are liberal lovers. The media should outwardly and unfairly hate and attack obama in just the same way, otherwise they arent doing their job of fair and honest and unbiased reporting

Go take a look at Ws approval rating from the time he took office until the invasion of Iraq and get back to me.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 03:31 PM
His approval rating has nothing to do with the way the media portrays him

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 04:14 PM
No, but it's pretty indicative of the fact that he was definitely given the benefit of the doubt by the American public for what, about 2 years? Maybe longer.

And the American media sure as hell did give him the benefit of the doubt in the run up to the Iraq war.

StoopTroup
1/17/2009, 04:59 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are stupid. Really, really stupid. And liberals are the stupidest of the stupid.

That's why I knew McCain wasn't the man. Way to many righties couldn't relate to his message. What they wanted to hear was..."I am going to continue to line your pockets with gold, diamonds and platinum." There wasn't anyway for him to be able to undo what had been done. Obama had to be the next guy. At the end of this one...I'm betting he looks physically worse than GWB even though he's younger.

Chuck Bao
1/17/2009, 05:23 PM
I admit that I didn't watch it. If I had, I would have gotten mad again and started singing:

Nah, nah, nah, nah, hey, hey, goodbye.

Even though I will be singing to myself "Hosanna" during the Obama inaugration, I do hope that the media remains very critical of the US president and the Obama administration. It's not right wing or left wing media bais, but the right to speak out. That is what makes America the beacon of hope for the world. We are about freedom. Bush and his "for us or against us" cronies betrayed that essential part of who we are.

LosAngelesSooner
1/17/2009, 05:41 PM
I resolve to give President elect B Hussien Obama the same respect the left has given Bush the last 8 years.
Will that include giving Obama his first 3-4 years of rubber stamp approval of all bills/policies, softball questions from all reporters who fail to investigate anything he claims and lockstep loyalty to his every whim JUST LIKE BUSH GOT HIS FIRST 3-4 YEARS?

If so, then I, as a REPUBLICAN, am against that as well. Hold Obama's feet to the fire, question him, hold him to a higher standard, just as Dubya's should have been.

LosAngelesSooner
1/17/2009, 05:43 PM
He'd have to wait in line with the rest of the corrupt public officials, both dems and pubs. Including, but not limited to, Henry Paulson, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, William Jefferson Clinton, and obviously Ted Stevens. I almost forgot the guy who "forgets" to pay his taxes, Geithner.
I'm with you on most of that list except for Bill Clinton.

A President should get as many BJ's as he wants/needs. The last thing we need is a sexually frustrated President with his/her finger on the nuclear trigger.

(I'll never understand the hard on that the ultra-right has for Bill Clinton. He was a pretty damn good President.)

adoniijahsooner
1/17/2009, 06:04 PM
So basically you are just now choosing to listen to one of the many things about Obama that is troublesome, im not coming after you but alot of this stuff was brought up before the election, alot of other stuff as well that is more troubling but every Dem I spoke with chose to ignore it cus Obama was the prophet of American goodness...

Yeah, I was a little enchanted with the whole "black president" thing, until I came to my senses and saw some things that I would not allow any man to get away with. Heck I used to be part of a denomination that I regret I ever got involved with, but unlike many who keep pushing along, I eventually cut all ties.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 06:32 PM
Let me say this, even though I didnt vote for Obama and I think anyone who didnt vote for Mccain cus of Bush is blind to the truth, I will support him as my Presidentl. All I ask is that if he says something stupid out loud, does something wrong, or pisses someone off that the media cream him like they did Bush.

I do agree with what was said above that some Repubs stayed away from Mccain cus he wouldnt just hand over what they wanted, it is unfortunate

Collier11
1/17/2009, 06:34 PM
No, but it's pretty indicative of the fact that he was definitely given the benefit of the doubt by the American public for what, about 2 years? Maybe longer.

And the American media sure as hell did give him the benefit of the doubt in the run up to the Iraq war.

Actually the media took hindsight and crammed it down his throat, some of the mistakes he made were due to him getting bad advice and bad information that many of the democrats agreed with at the time just like he did. Then once it turned out wrong the Dems and Repubs to an extent turned on him cus everyone is more worried about their own azzes than the good of the country, the media made it seem like everything that went wrong was directly because of him and no one else, and that is that.

Curly Bill
1/17/2009, 06:38 PM
Will that include giving Obama his first 3-4 years of rubber stamp approval of all bills/policies, softball questions from all reporters who fail to investigate anything he claims and lockstep loyalty to his every whim JUST LIKE BUSH GOT HIS FIRST 3-4 YEARS?

If so, then I, as a REPUBLICAN, am against that as well. Hold Obama's feet to the fire, question him, hold him to a higher standard, just as Dubya's should have been.

You know none of us really buy this right?

Collier11
1/17/2009, 06:43 PM
no one has believed that for a while, I think he is still trying to trick himself

85Sooner
1/17/2009, 06:59 PM
If calling him the 2nd worst President we've ever had instead of THE worst, then yes...I think it will be kind to him as well.

And I think he should be put in jail.

AND I STILL THINK California should fall into the ocean. Raise the collective IQ of the entire country.

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 07:33 PM
Actually the media took hindsight and crammed it down his throat, some of the mistakes he made were due to him getting bad advice and bad information that many of the democrats agreed with at the time just like he did.

Actually, the media took the administration at its word when it made those claims. So did Congress.

As far as the Dems agreeing? Red herring. Check the org chart. The intel agencies don't report the Congress, they report to the President. Congress sees what they're shown. The President, or the people under him, decide what they're shown.

It's easy to lead someone to a predetermined conclusion if you can control the information they have -- and that's exactly what the intel agencies, and thus the President, can do with Congress.



Then once it turned out wrong the Dems and Repubs to an extent turned on him cus everyone is more worried about their own azzes than the good of the country, the media made it seem like everything that went wrong was directly because of him and no one else, and that is that.

The President is the man, the CEO, the guy on top. He's the responsible party. If the people under him failed to perform, he's the guy to hold accountable. If they deceived him, he should have found them out. Like Harry Truman was wont to say -- The buck stops here.

He was right. The buck stops at the Oval Office, right on the President's shoulders.

If he had bothered to take corrective action, I might have cut him some slack. But instead of corrective action and people falling on their swords, you had denials and *** covering.

Party of personal responsibility my ***.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 07:46 PM
I think he honestly thought he was doing the right thing and his biggest flaw has always been that he trusted his buddies too much.

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 07:48 PM
Being a dumb**** is not an excuse for poor job performance when you're the President.

I Am Right
1/17/2009, 07:50 PM
I hope B Hussien Obama fails.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 07:55 PM
Being a dumb**** is not an excuse for poor job performance when you're the President.

I love it when you all call GW a dumb *** or any president for that matter. Everyone makes bad decisions, it just so happens that the President does it in front of the whole country.

Im pretty sure that if 5 of your most trusted friends or co-workers told you A, you wouldnt then believe B, you would believe A

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/17/2009, 07:57 PM
I hope B Hussien Obama fails.

I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
1/17/2009, 08:03 PM
I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.He? might mean he hopes the massive attempts at full-blown socialism fall on their faces, and are rejected by the country.(just a guess, 'cause it's my hope)

A Sooner in Texas
1/17/2009, 08:07 PM
I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.


I completely agree with you Gandalf, but you said it so much more eloquently than I could have. ;)

Gandalf_The_Grey
1/17/2009, 08:15 PM
He? might mean he hopes the massive attempts at full-blown socialism fall on their faces, and are rejected by the country.(just a guess, 'cause it's my hope)

I do not have a problem with you saying that you "think" he will fail and be an absolute failure. But openly hoping that this country will put through more agony than it already has gone through in the last 4 or 5 years is some of the most unpatriotic virile I cannot tolerate. You are entitled to your opinion, I will admit I am not overly optimistic but Jesus be my witness, I hope he pulls us out of this temporary gutter and restores us at the most respected and admired country in the world that we should be(and in my opinion we already should be because of the great citizens we have in this country)

olevetonahill
1/17/2009, 08:16 PM
I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.

I think you read More into that Post than was meant .
Now Can every one Please Put their Hardons for GW and or Obama away for awhile and Lets Hope this Country Moves Forward ?

Curly Bill
1/17/2009, 08:19 PM
Count me in as another that thinks someone wishing for Brack to fail, does not necessarily equate with them hoping the country will fail.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 08:23 PM
I dont know why anyone Dem or Rep would want a particular president to fail? I respect your opinion CB and usually agree with you on most things but this threw me off a bit.

I didnt vote for Obama, I dont want him to be president, but I def want him to do well because I want a better country to live in. I guess what is probably being argued here is what defines fail. If him not getting some of his socialistic views to succeed, not making this country weaker militarily, etc.. means he fails then I am with you but I want him to do good things for this country which is my definition of doing well

Curly Bill
1/17/2009, 08:27 PM
I would like for him to do good things for the country too, I don't agree that what he wants to do would be good for the country. Therefore if he fails in what he wants to do, I think the country would actually be better off in the long run.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 08:31 PM
gotcha

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 08:40 PM
Im pretty sure that if 5 of your most trusted friends or co-workers told you A, you wouldnt then believe B, you would believe A

Probably.

And when it turned out to be B, and I committed the United States of America to a war in Iraq, where soldiers are getting killed and billions of American dollars spent?

Yeah, they'd be so fired. Retaining people who **** up THAT badly is dumb****. Sorry.

Like I said, I'd be inclined to cut him some slack if he hadn't helped cover their asses. In a position with as much responsibility as the Presidency, you can't afford to cover people's asses when they're incompetent. Doing so is, bluntly, the act of a dumb****.

Or someone who puts himself and his friends above the good of the country.

Maybe there are other possibilities, but I doubt any of them are better.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 08:42 PM
That has been my point this entire discussion, GW isnt a bad guy, he wants the best for America and if you dont believe that you are full of it, but his main fault has always been trusting those around him too much and too long

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 08:43 PM
That has been my point this entire discussion, GW isnt a bad guy, he wants the best for America and if you dont believe that you are full of it, but his main fault has always been trusting those around him too much and too long

In other words, he's a dumb****.

Collier11
1/17/2009, 08:46 PM
I would say overly loyal and stubborn ;)

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 08:50 PM
I would say overly loyal and stubborn ;)

It's dumb**** when it results in several thousand American soldiers getting killed.

LosAngelesSooner
1/17/2009, 08:52 PM
You know none of us really buy this right?
Ah, so you're still part of the "world is flat" clique?

Facts are facts. Doesn't change them simply because you don't believe them.


no one in our pathetically narrow minded clique of Bush lovers has believed that for a while, I think he is still trying to trick us with his big words and logic.Fixed.


AND I STILL THINK California should fall into the ocean. Raise the collective IQ of the entire country.And I still think you say some of the dumbest things I've ever come across. That's one of the reasons I find you to be so amusing in a sad, pathetic, insecure kind of way. ;)

Curly Bill
1/17/2009, 08:54 PM
Ah, so you're still part of the "world is flat" clique?

Nah, I'm more in the: I don't believe LosAngelesSooner is a Republican clique. ;)

olevetonahill
1/17/2009, 09:23 PM
It's dumb**** when it results in several thousand American soldiers getting killed.

But you are Monday Morning QBing here .
The whole Dayum Country was wanting Some Bodys head.
What was He possed to do AFTER we found NO WMDs ?
Say Oops Lets Go home and let the Iraq's Clean this Mess up ?:rolleyes:

olevetonahill
1/17/2009, 09:24 PM
In other words, he's a Vaevictis.
Gotcha , :D

Vaevictis
1/17/2009, 09:49 PM
But you are Monday Morning QBing here

Yes, I am. So what? There was a **** up, and the guy responsible for not ****ing up is the guy you hold responsible. Right? That would be the President in this case.


The whole Dayum Country was Some Bodys head.

Yup. That's the funny part. This was predicted well in advance -- read the academic literature on terrorism, it's there. You can be sure Bin Laden knew it.

Hell, even I knew it. I got called in to look at the TV on 9/11 after the second plane hit. My first comment, "It's terrorists. Somebody's going to pay for it. I just hope it's the people responsible."

If you don't think America overreacting was part of Bin Laden's game plan, you're not giving him enough credit. He's a dirtbag, but I don't think he's stupid.

EDIT: This, of course, is subject to my correctly interpreting what you meant -- the whole country was wanting someone's head, right?


What was He possed to do AFTER we found NO WMDs ?
Say Oops Lets Go home and let the Iraq's Clean this Mess up ?:rolleyes:

"Oops. We ****ed up. We're going to take care of the processes internally that resulted in this bad outcome, and the people responsible will be replaced. Now that we're here, we have obligations under the Geneva Conventions to fix the problem."

What we got instead was,

"There was no **** up. There really were WMD. No, really, there were. They must be under that rock over there. Or under the bed over there! Or maybe they're in the bushes over there! No, nobody's responsible. No, nothing's wrong with our processes. Everything worked like it was supposed to. Nothing to see here. Oh, by the way, we have to stay because terroristterroristterroristterroristterroristterro ristterroristAlQaedaAlQaedaAlQaeda.

Boogey boogey boo, fear rabble rabble rabble. Do what we say, because we'll keep you safe. BOO!"

olevetonahill
1/17/2009, 11:21 PM
Dude when I was a nOOb in the Boonies I followed a Few Idiots into Battle . We fought Like Hell to Get Out of those Sit.s . **** ups were all around .
I led a few Missions My self . Did I perform Perfectly ? Hell NO .
Not a Damn one Of Us that Followed Nor the Ones that Led Blamed those above us .
You Need to Crawl out Of your Ivory Tower and smell the ****ing Coffee.:rolleyes:

Vaevictis
1/18/2009, 03:03 AM
You Need to Crawl out Of your Ivory Tower and smell the ****ing Coffee.:rolleyes:

Yeah, I hear that from time to time. But, I learned the values from family members growing up, who like you, have the experience to know what's what.

You're welcome to your opinion and values, but these are mine -- and theirs.

I Am Right
1/18/2009, 10:36 AM
I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.

Hey Gandalf, I don't care whats the color of his skin, where he eats, what his wife wears, where his kids go to school, I do not like his socialist ideas. Obama failure does not mean this country fails, it means our country will be more free.

I Am Right
1/18/2009, 10:37 AM
Some of you posters need to learn American History.

GrapevineSooner
1/18/2009, 01:17 PM
I just knew this thread would turn into all sorts of awesome...FAIL!!

And BTW, I'll wish President-elect Obama well during his term, will trust that when he makes a decision, it's because he believes it's the right decision, but will still oppose his ideas when I think they're wrong.

And BTW +1, I agree with Vaevictis in that Bush's greatest failing as President, when the book is officially closed on his Presidency in 46 hours and 40 minutes, will be his inability to hold those who reported to him in the intel agencies, namely George Tenet, to account for their inaccurate reports.

And for ushering in a new age of government spending...as a Republican.

I Am Right
1/18/2009, 01:29 PM
I hope you choke on a dick a die. I hope you are a clueless foreigner because anyone wishing failure on this country I love deserves nothing but misery in their life. If he fails...we fail.

You must be so proud.

soonerscuba
1/18/2009, 01:34 PM
Can I start accusing those who disagree with me of treason now, or do I have to wait until Wednesday? Tuba, can you help me out?

Chuck Bao
1/18/2009, 02:10 PM
There is only one person to blame for Bush's failings as a president and that is President GW Bush himself.

Seriously though, I don't know if it is an indictment against the character of GW Bush or against our organizational structures and focus on near-term results.

I face this all of the time in my job. My bosses come to me and say that they want results now and I bust my butt trying to comply. If I'm wrong, then it is my *** on the line, not theirs.

Notice that the top dogs of the corporate sector have failed in an even more spectular fashion.

This blame game only goes so far and for so long. Eventually, it has to catch up to them. GW Bush doesn't have a golden parachute, but he does in a sense.

I'm thankful that that parachute has finally been deployed and I can only hope that the new administration learns from the last one's mistakes.

Some of you guys amaze me by continuing with this silly scare propaganda. That is your right, though. And, I can agree with Gandalf that if you wish ill of a US administration that you can choke on the big one. You either support democracy and the will of the American people or you don't.

Collier11
1/18/2009, 02:45 PM
well said from a past Bush supporter