Florida DC Charlie Strong now talking trash.

[adoniijahsooner]

I am sure you gators will spin this and say I am twisting his words; but read the article.

http://www.news-press.com/article/20081223/SPORTS/812230361/1075


"It would have been hard because the teams in this league can play defense," UF defensive coordinator Charlie Strong said.

[soonerfan28]

I saw this earlier today and I'll just say like I said earlier, you only talk **** when you're scared or overconfident and both bode well for OU.

[instigator]

I saw this earlier and I LOVE IT!!!!

[sooner2b09]

bring it on *****

[Iam4OUru]

Eleven of the 12 teams in the SEC rank in the top 38 nationally in total defense, including five of the top 15 (Florida is No. 9).

and this is because.....

Ten of the 12 teams in the SEC rank outside the top 38 nationally in total offense. :D

[adoniijahsooner]

And Haden adds, forget about all those fancy numbers. Forget about predicting a 100-98 football game in Miami. He wants blood, guts and spit to determine the winner, not flash and dash.

Blood, guts, and spit at a track meet?

[OU_Sooners75]

Eleven of the 12 teams in the SEC rank in the top 38 nationally in total defense, including five of the top 15 (Florida is No. 9).

and this is because.....

Ten of the 12 teams in the SEC rank outside the top 38 nationally in total offense. :D

Let's take this one a little further.

That is because 8 of the 12 SEC offenses average rank is 94th or lower nationally.

[OUMallen]

Eleven of the 12 teams in the SEC rank in the top 38 nationally in total defense, including five of the top 15 (Florida is No. 9).

and this is because.....

Ten of the 12 teams in the SEC rank outside the top 38 nationally in total offense. :D

You stop with your fancy logic and necessary reverse implications!!! :mad:

[adoniijahsooner]

"It's a challenge for them to come against us, honestly, because they haven't seen a defense like us," Haden declared. "With the speed ...

Speed, fast, quick, in a hurray, haste, running, olympics, sonic the hedgehog, need for speed, Project Gotham Racing, Flash, Turbo boosters, 2 fast 2 furious, rpm's, road runner, and speedy Gonzalez! ZOOM ZOOM MY ***!

[MojoRisen]

Looked like Alabama had some simple mis direction for that speed... I think UF is going to get faked out of their boots... but hey...

[SoonerBoognish]

Blood, guts, and spit at a track meet?

In lieu of blood and whatnot, they can just roll around in endzone paint and scream for the camera.

[P3 Gator]

Eleven of the 12 teams in the SEC rank in the top 38 nationally in total defense, including five of the top 15 (Florida is No. 9).

and this is because.....

Ten of the 12 teams in the SEC rank outside the top 38 nationally in total offense. :D

Circular argument. Why are so many Big 12 defenses ranked so bad; because our offenses are all so good. Why are the Big 12 offenses all so good; because our defenses are all so bad.

That, my friends is why they play the games.

[ouengineer97]

Isn't this just a repeat/republishing of quotes made earlier in December after the CCG's?

I do not see any "new" bulletin board information.

[JLEW1818]

what the hell is defense

[Jason White's Third Knee]

In lieu of blood and whatnot, they can just roll around in endzone paint and scream for the camera.


This might be the single greatest post I have seen in years.

[MarylandGator]

I saw this earlier today and I'll just say like I said earlier, you only talk **** when you're scared or overconfident and both bode well for OU.

seriously? have you bothered to read 90% of the threads here?

[cheezyq]

Circular argument.

Exactly...now just why is your DC touting it as a legit argument?

[catsigater]

I am sure you gators will spin this and say I am twisting his words; but read the article.

http://www.news-press.com/article/20081223/SPORTS/812230361/1075

He was asked a direct question, he gave a direct answer.


Could the Sooners have scored 60 points in five straight games in the physically demanding Southeastern Conference where even the worst defense is at least statistically better than some of the best in the Big 12?

"It would have been hard because the teams in this league can play defense," UF defensive coordinator Charlie Strong said.

So let's turn it around.

Q: Could the Gators have held their opponents to 21 points or under in 8 out of 9 games in the unbelievably prolific Big 12 where even the worst offenses are at least statistically better than some of the best in the SEC?

A: "It would have been hard because the teams in that league can play offense."

[soonerfan28]

seriously? have you bothered to read 90% of the threads here?

Actually I have read at least 90% of the threads, so are you saying that you guys are scared or overconfident?

[MarylandGator]

Actually I have read at least 90% of the threads, so are you saying that you guys are scared or overconfident?

ok.

[oupride]

Gee, I guess we will see.

[ETGator1]

LOL - Charlie Strong and Joe Haden breathe confidence. (wink)

[L-Boy]

I am sure you gators will spin this and say I am twisting his words; but read the article.

http://www.news-press.com/article/20081223/SPORTS/812230361/1075

Once again, sensitive OU fans are so offended that somebody does not appear to be scared of their beloved offensive stats. Of a coach projects confidence. In no way was he disrespectful. Get over it.

[A Sooner in Texas]

Once again, sensitive OU fans are so offended that somebody does not appear to be scared of their beloved offensive stats. Of a coach projects confidence. In no way was he disrespectful. Get over it.

What pisses me off most in this is the word "sensitive."

My ***.

[Readyfor8]

Once again, sensitive OU fans are so offended that somebody does not appear to be scared of their beloved offensive stats. Of a coach projects confidence. In no way was he disrespectful. Get over it.

I think it was disrespectful, I think you are disrespectful too. So what.

I love it when Gator fans come on a Sooner board and expect us to go, "Yea, I guess we haven't played any defense this year and we should forfeit the game." So many people are predicting a Florida win, is it a truly that absurd to think your players, your fans, and even your coaches are overconfident?

What happened in the last BCS Title Game where someone was way way overconfident? I think Florida kicked that teams ***, even when nobody said they would be in the same league as their opponent.

[Hokiefan]

Circular argument. Why are so many Big 12 defenses ranked so bad; because our offenses are all so good. Why are the Big 12 offenses all so good; because our defenses are all so bad.

That, my friends is why they play the games.

Nebraska's defense made my Hokies, who finished the year ranked 107th in total offense, look like an offensive juggernaut....We hung 35 on them.....and statistically Nebraska's defense was better than Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that defense is an afterthought in the Big 12.

[Readyfor8]

Nebraska's defense made my Hokies, who finished the year ranked 107th in total offense, look like an offensive juggernaut....We hung 35 on them.....and Nebraska's defense statistically was better than Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that defense is an afterthought in the Big 12.

Wow an ACC fan talking about weak defense? When was the last time your conference was a threat again? 370 total yards is an offensive juggernaut? 35 points is an offensive juggernaut?

You need a lesson, join a real conference, you would have finished 4th in the Big XII North.

[Crucifax Autumn]

anyone who says "my hokies" is not to be taken seriously.

[catsigater]

Wow an ACC fan talking about weak defense? When was the last time your conference was a threat again? 370 total yards is an offensive juggernaut? 35 points is an offensive juggernaut?

You need a lesson, join a real conference, you would have finished 4th in the Big XII North.

Va Tech averages 296.2 yds per game. Dead Last in the ACC. They average 22.2 points per game. So yeah Nebraska made their offense look way above average.

The same NU that allows exactly 2.4 more yards, and 4.7 points more per game than OU.

OU would've beat Va Tech 48-30.

[Crucifax Autumn]

pssst...Nebraska sucked this year.

[Readyfor8]

You think so? The also held Texas Tech the 4th best offense in the country to 37 points with an overtime to go AT Texas tech... The same place Texas lost.

We can do this all day, Texas Tech was an offensive juggernaut and they only scored 2 more points.

[Readyfor8]

On a side note, I can't believe I am taking up for bug eaters

[Hokiefan]

OU would've beat Va Tech 48-30.

That sounds about right to me........

[Hokiefan]

Wow an ACC fan talking about weak defense? When was the last time your conference was a threat again? 370 total yards is an offensive juggernaut? 35 points is an offensive juggernaut?

You need a lesson, join a real conference, you would have finished 4th in the Big XII North.

Dude, my point was not that "my" Hokies are an "offensive juggernaut". Quite the contrary..... we only put up 24 against Furman this year.

[Readyfor8]

Cincinnati will beat Va Tech 48-30.

That sounds about right to me.

[Readyfor8]

Dude, my point was not that "my" Hokies are an "offensive juggernaut". Quite the contrary..... we only put up 24 against Furman this year.

Dude, my point is that the Huskers have showed up on defense for at least a few games this year, and holding Texas Tech to under 40 is a big deal, especially in Lubbock.

My bigger point is, why are you on a Sooner board talking trash?

[catsigater]

Dude, my point is that the Huskers have showed up on defense for at least a few games this year, and holding Texas Tech to under 40 is a big deal, especially in Lubbock.

My bigger point is, why are you on a Sooner board talking trash?

Trolls. :rolleyes:

[L-Boy]

Va Tech averages 296.2 yds per game. Dead Last in the ACC. They average 22.2 points per game. So yeah Nebraska made their offense look way above average.

The same NU that allows exactly 2.4 more yards, and 4.7 points more per game than OU.

OU would've beat Va Tech 48-30.


So what you're saying is good offensive stats could be due to poor defenses?

Yeah, But clearly NB sucks!

So you are saying that statistically NB defense is the same as OU defense?


Yeah, But clearly NB sucks!


But, a team ranked worse than 100th in offense rolled up 35 points against a Big 12 team, with similar defensive stats, and similar schedule to OU?

Yeah, But clearly NB sucks!

So where does that leave OU defense?

Have you seen our offensive stats???

[Hokiefan]

Dude, my point is that the Huskers have showed up on defense for at least a few games this year, and holding Texas Tech to under 40 is a big deal, especially in Lubbock.

My bigger point is, why are you on a Sooner board talking trash?

I am not talking trash. I'm just being honest. Nobody truly plays defense in the Big 12. I still think Florida averaging 45 ppg in the SEC is more amazing than Oklahoma averaging 54 ppg in the Big 12.
With that being said, I think Oklahoma has a great team and I look forward to next Thursday night.
My prediction: Florida 44 - OU 32

p.s. You're not going to hurt my feelings talking about my Hokies. The fact that we are winning enough games each season to play in a BCS game is amazing to me.............. For God's sake, our coaches have to sell BLACKSBURG to recruits.....

[catsigater]

I still think Florida averaging 45 ppg in the SEC is more amazing than Oklahoma averaging 54 ppg in the Big 12.

You are wise, oh Hokiefan.

[Hokiefan]

anyone who says "my hokies" is not to be taken seriously.


Just for you, that USC team that hung 55 on your Sooners in the 2005 championship game was only able to score 24 against "my Hokies" that year...giddy up!!!!

[Curly Bill]

Just for you, that USC team that hung 55 on your Sooners in the 2005 championship game was only able to score 24 against "my Hokies" that year...giddy up!!!!

http://www.andy-yates.co.uk/vd/ghey.jpg

[L-Boy]

http://www.andy-yates.co.uk/vd/ghey.jpg

When you can't win an argument on merit, always pull the homophobe card.

[Salt City Sooner]

I'm sitting here looking at that box score, & I see 2 Va. Tech TD's that took a grand total of 38 yards combined. Couple that with a Husker punt that Va. Tech blocked for a safety, & that's 16 points that are VERY easily laid at the feet of the NU Offense & special teams, rather than their defense.

[Curly Bill]

When you can't win an argument on merit, always pull the homophobe card.

Struck a little too close to home?

[IM4OU2]

Wyoming went into an SEC house and won...Troy went into an SEC house and dang near pulled out a win...Ga Tech went into and SEC house and won...Clemson beat USC(lite) by 17...Texas beat Arkansas 52-10 (only one week prior to Florida beating them 38-7)...

Yep, the SEC has some vaunted defenses. Get real Hokie. Just because Va Tech played well and had a good offensive game against Nebraska, does not transfer "bad" defenses across the Big XII board. If it did, then you should transfer the above SEC defensive failures across the SEC board.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

I'm sitting here looking at that box score, & I see 2 Va. Tech TD's that took a grand total of 38 yards combined. Couple that with a Husker punt that Va. Tech blocked for a safety, & that's 16 points that are VERY easily laid at the feet of the NU Offense & special teams, rather than their defense.

not to mention that nebraska got a little better defensively as the season went on. about mid year when suh came on, that guy was a beast. unfortunately other teams' fans, or at least the ones that visit this board, don't understand the concept of teams getting better or getting worse throughout the season. i'd hate to take it down to a player level...

[Crucifax Autumn]

Just for you, that USC team that hung 55 on your Sooners in the 2005 championship game was only able to score 24 against "my Hokies" that year...giddy up!!!!

Wow...you guys musta won the MNC that year then right?

[Crucifax Autumn]

oh wait...you've NEVER won one! ha

[Hokiefan]

I'm sitting here looking at that box score, & I see 2 Va. Tech TD's that took a grand total of 38 yards combined. Couple that with a Husker punt that Va. Tech blocked for a safety, & that's 16 points that are VERY easily laid at the feet of the NU Offense & special teams, rather than their defense.


Va Tech Vs. Furman
First Downs 14
Yards Rushing 261
Yards Passing 68
Total yards 329

Va Tech Vs. Nebraska
First Downs 21
Yards Rushing 206
Yards Passing 171
Total yards 377

Nuff said.............................

[Curly Bill]

oh wait...you've NEVER won one! ha

giddy up!!! :rolleyes:

[Hokiefan]

oh wait...you've NEVER won one! ha

Nope, I guess I will have to accomplish that vicariously thru the Gators this year.....

[Readyfor8]

Va Tech Vs. Furman
First Downs 14
Yards Rushing 261
Yards Passing 68
Total yards 329

Va Tech Vs. Nebraska
First Downs 21
Yards Rushing 206
Yards Passing 171
Total yards 377

Nuff said.............................

Nuff said? This isn't Hokiefans.com why are we talking about the Hokies? Who cares?

Seriously dude, I think you need a life.

[Crucifax Autumn]

how very aggy

[jwlynn64]

When you can't win an argument on merit, always pull the homophobe card.

Maybe I'm confused. Was he calling the hokie fan a homophobe? Maybe you don't understand the difference between ghey and gay but there is one.

Humor is apparently lacking as well. :rolleyes:

[Curly Bill]

how very aggy


aggy?...ghey...? Yup, it's gheyly aggy.

...or is it aggily ghey???

[Hokiefan]

not to mention that nebraska got a little better defensively as the season went on. about mid year when suh came on, that guy was a beast. unfortunately other teams' fans, or at least the ones that visit this board, don't understand the concept of teams getting better or getting worse throughout the season. i'd hate to take it down to a player level...

I think you have my stapler.......

[jwlynn64]

I think you have my stapler.......

Office Space humor... fail!

[jwlynn64]

jkm, I think that he is threatening to burn down your house?:confused:

[FirstandGoal]

Ummmm,


Why the hell do we have a hokie fan on OUr board????



Anyone.....

Anyone......




Go away for now.

You can come back whenever your team has won a few NC's or so/or we actually play you and your team becomes relevant to us.

[Readyfor8]

Hey if Mississippi can score more than their season average on your defense in your own stadium, how good is your defense really?

[Hokiefan]

Nuff said? This isn't Hokiefans.com why are we talking about the Hokies? Who cares?

Seriously dude, I think you need a life.

I have a life, thank you. 24/7, right here in front of my pc. Heck, I even watch the games online, what more can I ask for????

[Crucifax Autumn]

Yeah, this is sillier than SEC conference pride...he's got general area pride.

[Ground_Attack]

seriously? have you bothered to read 90% of the threads here?

Great thing is that I am not a coach/player. It doesn't matter if I am scared or overconfident.

[jwlynn64]

I think that he just gets off thinking about Lundberg taking it to Jennifer Anniston while drinking his coffee. ;)

[Readyfor8]

I used to like the Hokies, I even memorized one of the chants... I think... Hokie Hokie Hokie Hi, Tech Tech TPI, Solarenta Sola ri. Team Team Team.

But I think I should drink till that set of braincells are removed.

[Hokiefan]

Ummmm,


Why the hell do we have a hokie fan on OUr board????



Anyone.....

Anyone......




Go away for now.

You can come back whenever your team has won a few NC's or so/or we actually play you and your team becomes relevant to us.

Not interested in outside opinions??

Oklahoma's got a football tradition second to none, but some (not all) of your posters come across as more than a little insecure. I honestly don't understand the instant need to bash anyone with a differing opinion. After all, we only have to wait until next Thursday night to see how good this year's Sooners really are................and surprisingly enough, I've been wrong before.

[Hokiefan]

I think that he just gets off thinking about Lundberg taking it to Jennifer Anniston while drinking his coffee. ;)

is that wrong?????

[Crucifax Autumn]

I'm with ya there...I only bash people with the wrong opinion unlike all these other dumbazzes!

[Readyfor8]

Not interested in outside opinions??

Oklahoma's got a football tradition second to none, but some (not all) of your posters come across as more than a little insecure. I honestly don't understand the instant need to bash anyone with a differing opinion. After all, we only have to wait until next Thursday night to see how good this year's Sooners really are................and surprisingly enough, I've been wrong before.

Dude, you bagged on an entire conference based on one game. To make matters worse, you picked a team that we beat by 38 points, and we could have scored a hundred on them. The poor Huskers didn't even win the north division, they were middle run this year in the best conference in the nation (by teams currently ranked.)

To make matters worse you didn't even play an SEC team this year, so you don't have an accurate cross section. You brought maybe the weakest smack to this board of any poster I have ever seen and you don't even have a dog in this fight. So I ask again why are you here?

[FirstandGoal]

Hey, Crucifax!

When you gonna get a thread up of the schooner running over some gator?

[FirstandGoal]

Dude, you bagged on an entire conference based on one game. To make matters worse, you picked a team that we beat by 38 points, and we could have scored a hundred on them. The poor Huskers didn't even win the north division, they were middle run this year in the best conference in the nation (by teams currently ranked.)

To make matters worse you didn't even play an SEC team this year, so you don't have an accurate cross section. You brought maybe the weakest smack to this board of any poster I have ever seen and you don't even have a dog in this fight. So I ask again why are you here?

Couldn't have said it better myself :)

[SoonerBacker]

It's not that differing opinions aren't welcome. It's that this has nothing to do with VATech.


Why don't you see if you can find a Bearcat board and talk about your game with them?

[Crucifax Autumn]

Hey, Crucifax!

When you gonna get a thread up of the schooner running over some gator?
__________________

any day now. I've been playing with it but need it to be just right and I haven't gathered all the required source pics.

[Hokiefan]

Dude, you bagged on an entire conference based on one game.............. You brought maybe the weakest smack to this board of any poster I have ever seen and you don't even have a dog in this fight. So I ask again why are you here?

Weakest smack??? I've not even been trying to talk smack. As for the one game, I was just using it for reference.

Why am I here? Because I am a huge football fan and believe Florida-OU is a tremendously interesting matchup..... I am really looking forward to this game because I believe both teams bring alot to the table.

[FirstandGoal]

Weakest smack??? I've not even been trying to talk smack.

Just for you, that USC team that hung 55 on your Sooners in the 2005 championship game was only able to score 24 against "my Hokies" that year...giddy up!!!!





Epic fail...

[jwlynn64]

I'm not going to bother checking my facts but I believe that Nebraska tied for first in the North but Missou had the tie breaker. Just saying....

[SoonerBacker]

"...because I believe both teams bring alot to the table."


Funny. Based on the posts I've read so far, it seems that the only team you see as bringing a lot to the table is UF.

[IM4OU2]

Hokiefan, are you really trying to judge an entire conference based on a comparison of Va Tech's performances against Furman & Nebraska?

That's like saying the entire ACC is garbage because Maryland lost 24-14 to Middle Tennessee State.

Why are you not calling the entire SEC defenses questionable since Tennessee LOST to Wyoming...let that sink in a minute...WYOMING (@ home none the less)?!?

[Readyfor8]

I'm not going to bother checking my facts but I believe that Nebraska tied for first in the North but Missou had the tie breaker. Just saying....

Still makes them middle rung, 6th is the middle of 12 right? They didn't win the North, and the top 4 of the South didn't lose to the North, so that makes them 6th in my book. Middle Rung... Just Saying...

[Crucifax Autumn]

You and your math and common sense!

[MrJimBeam]

.. we only put up 24 against Furman this year.

That should automaticlly disqualify Va Tech from any discussion on this or any other serious football message board.

I'm going to have to request you cease any further posting in this thread. Thank you.

[12]

Wow! This must be a good thread to get to page 5.

[OKC-SLC]

Nuff said.............................

If you've said "Nuff", why are you still posting?

[OKC-SLC]

Wow! This must be a good thread

This is not correct.

[FaninAma]

Nebraska's defense made my Hokies, who finished the year ranked 107th in total offense, look like an offensive juggernaut....We hung 35 on them.....and statistically Nebraska's defense was better than Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that defense is an afterthought in the Big 12.

And how did your Hawkalugies fare against the Fightin' Manginos last year?

[soonerduke]

Originally posted by MrJimBeam:
That should automaticlly disqualify Va Tech from any discussion on this or any other serious football message board....

where can I find one of these serious football message boards of which you speak?

[Knippz]

Bad. Just bad.

[NYC Poke]

Nope, I guess I will have to accomplish that vicariously thru the Gators this year.....

Do you have as many vicarious national titles as Alabama?