Jevan Snead confirms that the SEC is the...

[adoniijahsooner]

best conference. I was reading the Fort Worth Star-telegram at work last night, and I came across this small article about Mr. Snead. Maybe he forgot that he was in big 12 country, or it escaped his mind that we all know he had to hightail it to the sec in order to get a job; but whatever the case, it is more evidence that the southeastern conference brainwashes people into believing a lie against their own personal experience. Gators are welcomed to comment and spin this how they wish. Why could he no start in the Big 12? Why are his numbers better now, than when he was at Texas?

http://www.star-telegram.com/college_sports/story/1114048.html


"One of my big things in high school, if a play is not there, you can make something happen," Snead said. "In college, especially in the SEC, it’s a lot harder and defenses are a lot quicker and react to the ball a lot better."

[ratedrsuperstar]

Top to bottom the SEC is better than any other conference including the Big 12. They do not have any Iowa States or teams like Baylor (before this year). Their worst teams Mississippi State and Vanderbilt would beat 3 or 4 teams (Iowa State, Baylor, K state) from the Big 12 most seasons.

Here's some historical numbers for the 2 programs playing in the BCS game.

Florida is 3-3-0 against the Big XII
1/2/1996 vs. Nebraska (12-0) L 24 62 @ Tempe, AZ Fiesta Bowl
9/8/1990 vs. Oklahoma State (4-7) W 50 7
12/31/1974 vs. Nebraska (9-3) L 10 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/15/1973 vs. Kansas State (5-6) W 21 10
1/1/1966 vs. Missouri (8-2-1) L 18 20 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
11/29/1947 vs. Kansas State (0-10) W 25 7
The gators were 9-11-2 against the old SWC

Oklahoma is 10-5-2 against the SEC
9/6/2003 @ Alabama (4-9) W 20 13
1/4/2004 vs. Louisiana State (13-1) L 14 21 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/7/2002 vs. Alabama (10-3) W 37 27
1/1/2002 vs. Arkansas (7-5) W 10 3 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl
12/31/1999 vs. Mississippi (8-4) L 25 27 @ Shreveport, LA Independence Bowl
9/18/1982 @ Kentucky (0-10-1) W 29 8
9/13/1980 vs. Kentucky (3-8) W 29 7
9/10/1977 vs. Vanderbilt (2-9) W 25 23
9/11/1976 @ Vanderbilt (2-9) W 24 3
1/1/1972 vs. Auburn (9-2) W 40 22 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
12/31/1970 vs. Alabama (6-5-1) T 24 24 @ Houston, TX Bluebonnet Bowl
1/1/1968 vs. Tennessee (9-2) W 26 24 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1963 vs. Alabama (10-1) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1951 vs. Kentucky (11-1) L 7 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1950 vs. Louisiana State (8-3) W 35 0 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1939 vs. Tennessee (11-0) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
9/30/1933 vs. Vanderbilt (4-3-3) T 0 0

[badger]

I think Jevan wasn't putting out enough for Mack Brown - the same reason Major didn't get playing time over an obviously inferior Chrissy Simms. I mean, Mack LOVES Colt, but is he really the best QB Texas could have? No, probably not, but the talent he's surrounded by makes him look good and Jevan couldn't compete with Mack's boy Colt for his love, attention and... yes, playing time.

[SoonerBacker]

Top to bottom the SEC is better than any other conference including the Big 12. They do not have any Iowa States or teams like Baylor (before this year). Their worst teams Mississippi State and Vanderbilt would beat 3 or 4 teams (Iowa State, Baylor, K state) from the Big 12 most seasons.

Here's some historical numbers for the 2 programs playing in the BCS game.

Florida is 3-3-0 against the Big XII
1/2/1996 vs. Nebraska (12-0) L 24 62 @ Tempe, AZ Fiesta Bowl
9/8/1990 vs. Oklahoma State (4-7) W 50 7
12/31/1974 vs. Nebraska (9-3) L 10 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/15/1973 vs. Kansas State (5-6) W 21 10
1/1/1966 vs. Missouri (8-2-1) L 18 20 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
11/29/1947 vs. Kansas State (0-10) W 25 7
The gators were 9-11-2 against the old SWC

Oklahoma is 10-5-2 against the SEC
9/6/2003 @ Alabama (4-9) W 20 13
1/4/2004 vs. Louisiana State (13-1) L 14 21 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/7/2002 vs. Alabama (10-3) W 37 27
1/1/2002 vs. Arkansas (7-5) W 10 3 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl
12/31/1999 vs. Mississippi (8-4) L 25 27 @ Shreveport, LA Independence Bowl
9/18/1982 @ Kentucky (0-10-1) W 29 8
9/13/1980 vs. Kentucky (3-8) W 29 7
9/10/1977 vs. Vanderbilt (2-9) W 25 23
9/11/1976 @ Vanderbilt (2-9) W 24 3
1/1/1972 vs. Auburn (9-2) W 40 22 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
12/31/1970 vs. Alabama (6-5-1) T 24 24 @ Houston, TX Bluebonnet Bowl
1/1/1968 vs. Tennessee (9-2) W 26 24 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1963 vs. Alabama (10-1) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1951 vs. Kentucky (11-1) L 7 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1950 vs. Louisiana State (8-3) W 35 0 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1939 vs. Tennessee (11-0) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
9/30/1933 vs. Vanderbilt (4-3-3) T 0 0



OK, so UF is 3-3-0 against the Big XII. And those 3 wins are against oSu and K-State. Those 2 teams had a collective record of 9-23 in the years you listed. That would be like OU saying that we had 3-0 record against Vanderbilt and Mississippi State. Yet when UF has gone up against upper-level Big XII teams, they have lost. (NU & MU) Not very impressive.

The Sooners, on the other hand, have defeated upper tier SEC teams on numerous occassions. (Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee) And several of those victories came in bowl games, so the teams we deafeated in those years were obviously higher quality than oSu and K-State.

[swardboy]

Top to bottom the SEC is better than any other conference including the Big 12. They do not have any Iowa States or teams like Baylor (before this year). Their worst teams Mississippi State and Vanderbilt would beat 3 or 4 teams (Iowa State, Baylor, K state) from the Big 12 most seasons.

HIGHLY debatable...and I lived in Alabama for 12 years so I know somewhat of that which I speak.

[badger]

HIGHLY debatable...and I lived in Alabama for 12 years so I know somewhat of that which I speak.

Agree - even Iowa State was a top 10 team before we showed Seneca who's his daddy.Every team will have a once-in-a-lifetime season occasionally, but like every conference, there are just those select few programs that can be good more often than not most of the time... but not more than a select few.

[bob]

Jevan has to say this now that he plays for Mississippi. If he didn't he would be pounded by the other teams in the SEC next year. Doesn't want to make them mad. Not a credible source for this discussion.
I will say that he certainly looks good and will have a very good career under Houston Nutt, who knows how to use a quarterback. Texas wishes they had him back.

[badger]

Texas wishes they had him back.

I know I just got done poking fun at Colt in another thread, but I don't think Texas wants or needs Jevan back when Colt nearly won the Heisman, nearly led them to an undefeated season, nearly brought them to a conference title and nearly took Texas to the title game.

:D I will never get tired of all the "nearly" references.

[soonerfan28]

Well I guess that settles it. We can all sleep a lil better at night now that Jevan has settled the discussion.

[SoonerAtKU]

How the hell would he know? How much action did he see at Texas? If anything, it was in mop-up time against an overmatched opponent. I'd sure as hell hope those defenses aren't as good as the starters for an SEC team.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I must be reading it wrong....It seems he comparing the difficulty of playing in a major college conference to how easy it was to make a play in high school...

[Redshirt]

I must be reading it wrong....It seems he comparing the difficulty of playing in a major college conference to how easy it was to make a play in high school...

What did you do, read the article before posting? What kind of fun is that?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

What did you do, read the article before posting? What kind of fun is that?

:D

[DCGator]

Top to bottom the SEC is better than any other conference including the Big 12. They do not have any Iowa States or teams like Baylor (before this year). Their worst teams Mississippi State and Vanderbilt would beat 3 or 4 teams (Iowa State, Baylor, K state) from the Big 12 most seasons.

Here's some historical numbers for the 2 programs playing in the BCS game.

Florida is 3-3-0 against the Big XII
1/2/1996 vs. Nebraska (12-0) L 24 62 @ Tempe, AZ Fiesta Bowl
9/8/1990 vs. Oklahoma State (4-7) W 50 7
12/31/1974 vs. Nebraska (9-3) L 10 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/15/1973 vs. Kansas State (5-6) W 21 10
1/1/1966 vs. Missouri (8-2-1) L 18 20 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
11/29/1947 vs. Kansas State (0-10) W 25 7
The gators were 9-11-2 against the old SWC

Oklahoma is 10-5-2 against the SEC
9/6/2003 @ Alabama (4-9) W 20 13
1/4/2004 vs. Louisiana State (13-1) L 14 21 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
9/7/2002 vs. Alabama (10-3) W 37 27
1/1/2002 vs. Arkansas (7-5) W 10 3 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl
12/31/1999 vs. Mississippi (8-4) L 25 27 @ Shreveport, LA Independence Bowl
9/18/1982 @ Kentucky (0-10-1) W 29 8
9/13/1980 vs. Kentucky (3-8) W 29 7
9/10/1977 vs. Vanderbilt (2-9) W 25 23
9/11/1976 @ Vanderbilt (2-9) W 24 3
1/1/1972 vs. Auburn (9-2) W 40 22 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
12/31/1970 vs. Alabama (6-5-1) T 24 24 @ Houston, TX Bluebonnet Bowl
1/1/1968 vs. Tennessee (9-2) W 26 24 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1963 vs. Alabama (10-1) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
1/1/1951 vs. Kentucky (11-1) L 7 13 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1950 vs. Louisiana State (8-3) W 35 0 @ New Orleans, LA Sugar Bowl
1/2/1939 vs. Tennessee (11-0) L 0 17 @ Miami, FL Orange Bowl
9/30/1933 vs. Vanderbilt (4-3-3) T 0 0


I disagree with this premise. I think what makes the SEC great most years are the middle and upper tier teams, and that We have had so many different teams in the NC title hunt over the last 20 years, such as UF, 'Bama, Tennessee, LSU, AU (did not win, but undefeated), and UGa (in the mix, but did not win).

My opinion only, but I think our lower tier (Miss St., Vandy, KY) teams suck with the worst of them.

[jwlynn64]

I guess that if you were being really touchy you might get that Snead was saying the SEC is best but I didn't get that.

[stoopified]

Personally I don't give a rat's A$$ if the SEC or Big 12 is a better conference.Aise from the fact there is no concrete,objective method to do so,all I care about is OU kicking FU's tail on the floor of Joe Robbie Stadium.

[adoniijahsooner]

I guess that if you were being really touchy you might get that Snead was saying the SEC is best but I didn't get that.

Working the late shift with no sleep and food; Yeah, I may be tad touchy. I am sure he was talking about high school to college, just a little suprised he threw in that "especially in the SEC". What would Colt do over in that conference, if he had the chance?

[JLEW1818]

Okay what I say about many things, and people really need to start taking this into consideration. What is the kid going to say? “I think the Big 12 is actually a better conference?????????” NO

Reporter: Sam, are you going to enter the draft?
Sam: I’m not sure yet, I’m just concentrating on winning the nation title.

Athletes are going to say was is politically correct, it’s how it is. Or at least the good ones do. Now I’m not going to debate which conference is better but honestly, was the Ole Miss QB really going to say that the SEC is not very good?

And go ahead and ask Snead how good the TAMU defense is, how he got picked when McCoy went down. HA

[O-town Gator]

Jevan has to say this now that he plays for Mississippi. If he didn't he would be pounded by the other teams in the SEC next year. Doesn't want to make them mad. Not a credible source for this discussion.
I will say that he certainly looks good and will have a very good career under Houston Nutt, who knows how to use a quarterback. Texas wishes they had him back.


If Ole Miss needs a motto, they could say "one team's trash is another team's treasure." Seems they like to take in players who either leave a school voluntarily or involuntarily; before Snead they took in Brent Schaeffer, who was kicked out of Tennessee.

Agreed on what you said about Houston Nutt; had Ed Orgeron stayed at Ole Miss Snead would have looked mediocre.