TCU VS BOISE STATE

[JLEW1818]

Who wins, and why and how..... Gonna be putting a good bit on this one.

[P3 Gator]

I'm looking forward to this. Can't help you on who wins. I think they both got screwed playing a game so early in the bowl season. Good news is they're done for Christmas and can truly relax.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I think TCU wins...solid D and has played better competition this year..

[8timechamps]

I wouldn't touch this game.

[JLEW1818]

This game is gonna be hairy

[Dan Thompson]

How many trick plays can BSU run in one game?

TCU wins.

[SoonerBoognish]

One interesting note about TCU's defense is, next to the 35 they gave up in Norman, the most the allowed was 14 against UNLV and Stanford. Against UNLV the other TD came with about 2 min left while way ahead. Against Stanford they went to halftime tied 14-14, seeing that i checked the USC-Stanford box score, they were tied 17-17 at the half.

If Boise's offense is very reliant on running the ball well, I think that strongly favors TCU. That's about all i care to look at on the stats, a good reason for me to never go to Vegas.

[JLEW1818]

SCORE PREDICTIONS??????..... The line is TCU -3, O/U 45.5

[Boomer38Sooner]

TCU wins. Boise will not be able to run anything and they will become one-dimensional with just their passing game. I'm taking TCU in a close slugfest

[MojoRisen]

TCU is solid, but I think Bosie is for real again... They handled Oregon in Oregon so they have played some decent compitition.

Score 27 -17 Bosie

Rooting for TCU to kick the loving shiate out of the horsey's though.

[SoonerShay]

The best team Boise played this year was Oregon and they got lucky when they played them. Oregon had been hit with a rash of injuries and was on its 3rd string QB and it was his first meaningful gametime. Oregon almost came back to win the game but lost 37 to 32.

Boise St. got outgained and was holding for dear life at the end.

Other than that they haven't played anyone good this year. Unless you think Nevada is good and they won that game 41 to 34.


TCU has faced BYU, UTAH and OU this year. All offenses that are prolific and put up points on everyone. They also faced stanford and did a better job against them than USC who everyone slobbers over. The MWC was a hell of alot better than the WAC this year too.

[ClintonSooner]

I was invited to the Boise State football camp 2 years ago and i remember Kellen Moore and I got to sack him twice! didnt think he was that good IMO what a year can do
TCU 34
BSU 24
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k119/callmecoco/1111111.jpg

thats me sacking him and zabransky is at the very left of the pic sucking hard on that whistle

[SoonerShay]

Your probably more talented than alot of players in the WAC. I'm not sure if you still play football but you obviously have some talent.

[oupride]

Other than OUr game, this is one of the few I am looking forward to.

[ClintonSooner]

Your probably more talented than alot of players in the WAC. I'm not sure if you still play football but you obviously have some talent.

I just finished my first season in college at Mcpherson Kansas, Im going to play at UCO next year...

and I mean this very sincerely, the players up there are extremely suspect!

[KC//CRIMSON]

I hope TCU *ss rapes those blue smurf bastards.

[OKLA21FAN]

the fighting Christians verses the Potato State Peters

might be one of the better bowl match ups this season.

TCU probably should have beaten UTAH while Potato State relies on a lone 'marquee' win over Oregon.

another name for this bowl game should be called the, 'i am happy coaching where I am at, and have no desire to be challenged and take a BCS coaching gig' bowl.

okla21fan sez

TCU 30
BSU 18

[olevetonahill]

Take TCU and the Over . YWIA ;)

[achiro]

I am surprised both of these head coaches haven't been looked at by bigger programs recently.

[Scott D]

TCU is solid, but I think Bosie is for real again... They handled Oregon in Oregon so they have played some decent compitition.

Score 27 -17 Bosie

Rooting for TCU to kick the loving shiate out of the horsey's though.

to be fair, Oregon was on their 5th string QB by that point, and Boise cheapshotted the 4th stringer out of the game while Oregon was winning. Boise wants to be taken seriously? Leave the WAC.

[SoonerBoognish]

Hey look, John Bible is reffing, throw out any logical predictions.

[oumartin]

Big 12 refs already F'in' up the game!

[Cam]

Hey look, John Bible is reffing, throw out any logical predictions.

I can't stand that SOB John Bible. Deaf, dumb, and blind that one.

[King Crimson]

killer frogs (not looking so hot early).

[oumartin]

Reece Davis almost wets himself over Boise State & I really don't care for Ian Johnson. I would have flagged his butt after that touchdown.

[SoonerBoognish]

Man, the officiating in this conference is horrible no matter who is playing.

[oumartin]

Good gawd big 12 officiating at its finest here again.

[SoonerBoognish]

Two minutes later, they get it right.

[kevpks]

What is with the fan comments across the top of the screen?

"D-bag from Idaho: Look at Boise go. They should play for the national title!"

Way to go ESPN. This adds a lot to your coverage.:rolleyes:

[ClintonSooner]

score mingas? update it retards...

[SoonerBoognish]

Yeah, who wants to watch the game, lets add another ticker in the middle of the screen in Spanish. I hate that top ticker. I get on the interweb to get my fill of silly opinions.

[SoonerBoognish]

Boise 10-0, TCU ball at the Boise... Interception, Boise around their own 10. And I'm only mildly retarded.

[ClintonSooner]

wow... is it me or are they always luck as phuck?

[King Crimson]

i think there's a good chance once TCU's DC's get the D settled in, TCU's physicality may sort of take over.

[SoonerBoognish]

TCU finally gets a stop. TCU ball at their own 30.

[SoonerBoognish]

And a horsecollar goes unflagged. That's why i dont like the rule, only the nasty looking ones get flagged it seems.

[oumartin]

I still like TCU in this game. Boise only has so many trick plays right?

I dont' know about that TCU pass that got picked. That was dumb.

[King Crimson]

man, block somebody on 4th down.

[sooner2b09]

I still like TCU in this game. Boise only has so many trick plays right?

I dont' know about that TCU pass that got picked. That was dumb.

Yeah if the QB throws it a little harder that is an easy TD, the WR got behind the cornerback easily.

[Newbomb Turk]

I still like TCU in this game.

that pretty much seals the deal. Boise is gonna win.

:D

[SoonerBoognish]

Hell of a sack.

[oumartin]

Bite me! and what a hit on the QB

[oumartin]

yip, TCU has the Boise offense figgered out now

[SoonerBoognish]

I wonder if that hit will have a lasting impact on the Boise offense? I wouldn't want to get hit like that a second time.

[oumartin]

another break for Boise, that punt had no business stayin' in bounds but it does.

[BoulderSooner79]

ESPN poll shows only Oklahoma doesn't think that Boise belongs in a BCS bowl. Who let the monkeys on the keyboard in Oklahoma? I'm sure no one on this board polled that way - too many good football minds here. ;)

[SoonerBoognish]

TCU offense is finding their legs.

[King Crimson]

TCU kinda beating themselves with the INT, pathetic effort on 4th.

they are moving the ball on every possession and brought the noise on the last 2 possessions on D.

Boise does the little things, give them that.

[oumartin]

Boise is tired!

[oumartin]

welp, Boise making their own breaks...

guess I'm turning the channel :(

[King Crimson]

i almost posted "Frogs need a TD here"....and i didn't mean the near pick 6.

TCU beating themselves.

[P3 Gator]

TCU brain trust. Congrats on your wonderful win...

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r479/jereed16/images.jpg

[King Crimson]

big stop for the Frogs for the FG, still a 2 score game.

[Newbomb Turk]

TCU brain trust. Congrats on your wonderful win...

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r479/jereed16/images.jpg

which win is that?

[SoonerBoognish]

Looks like they should just avoid that forward pass thing and they may do ok.

[P3 Gator]

big stop for the Frogs for the FG, still a 2 score game.

That is true...

[Dan Thompson]

With Bibles as the REF, TCU is going to win.

Did you hear ESPN said that TCU has only given up 6 TDs in the first QTR, and 3 of those where from OU!

My doctor told me I should not eat potatos.

I would also like to see BSU and Fresno St. join the PAC 10, hell they couldn't be any weaker than Washingtion or Washington St.

[P3 Gator]

With Bibles as the REF, TCU is going to win.

The ACC is ref'ing the MNC game. They were responsible for the swindle in the swamp (UF/FSU) so cheer-up.

[King Crimson]

BSU must have the ugliest helmet logo in D-1.

[SoonerBoognish]

TCU's defense is holding up their end... let the jinx ensue. Or not.

[King Crimson]

another 60 yard punt for BSU. special teams....

[SoonerBoognish]

Touchdown TCU! 13-7

[SoonerBoognish]

That pitchout seems to get them about 10 yards or more every time they do it. Yardage according to gamecast, Boise 105, TCU 246. First downs, Boise 8, TCU 15.

[oumartin]

yeah, I was just looking at the stats and TCU is owning Boise. Well cept on the scoreboard but TCU gets the ball first to start the second half..

[SoonerBoognish]

Man, i don't know if its the receivers or the qb, but that passing game is a bit underwhelming.

[King Crimson]

Man, i don't know if its the receivers or the qb, but that passing game is a bit underwhelming.

there's been some drops, but I seem to remember Dalton throwing a better ball against us.

[SoonerBoognish]

I was about to say i didnt see the hold. Thats because it was a tackle.

[SoonerBoognish]

Finally, a special teams bounce goes to TCU

[IBleedCrimson]

how can u get that wide open

[King Crimson]

TCU got greedy there and let BSU get behind them.

where's the safety?

[IBleedCrimson]

that was a hell of a catch. coverage was good, nothing else to do there

[oumartin]

that was a bs pass interference call

[SoonerBoognish]

Moving backwards again, lets see if that defense can save the day again. Regardless of the outcome, i feel this defense is playing as well as i expected.

[IBleedCrimson]

boise receivers lookin good

[SoonerBoognish]

FG no good. Interesting game.

[IBleedCrimson]

he pulled it!

[oumartin]

Its like nobody wants to win....

[SoonerBoognish]

That top ticker is populated by some delusional people. Just sayin'.

[oumartin]

Jimmy Young had a big game against OU dent he? he seems like a very good receiver for the frogs

[SoonerBoognish]

Jimmy Young had 6 receptions for 111 yards against OU.

[IBleedCrimson]

i like tcu's run game. anytime i see 3 backs i get all warm and fuzzy

[SoonerBoognish]

Took stones to go for it on 4th down after the blocking on the first 4th down attempt. First down.

[oumartin]

dangit, he dropped one

[SoonerBoognish]

Heh. Apparently they will kick it from 2 yards further back anyways. Crap. Boise 13-10.

[IBleedCrimson]

field goal good. 13-10 boise

[King Crimson]

if i'm a TCU fan i'm pissing blood the frogs aren't up 10 points at least.

[IBleedCrimson]

r u serious?

[oumartin]

and another bs pass interference call..

[SoonerBoognish]

Defense isnt allowed on trick plays i guess.

[oumartin]

where was the holding call on that end around?

man the big 12 conference refs are pathetic..

[SoonerBoognish]

Rece doesn't seem to understand that you are allowed to defend a pass. Good defense.

[oumartin]

and the defender goes through the receiver and they dont' call it.. GOOD

[meoveryouxinfinity]

good game.

[King Crimson]

these guys are huffing paint thinner talking about PSU-USC being the most exciting BCS Bowl. USC will roll PSU.

[King Crimson]

Rece doesn't seem to understand that you are allowed to defend a pass. Good defense.

he also did this thing all through the first half where a 5 yard gain on first down was "a short gain".

call me old-fashioned but 2nd and 5 works for me most of the time.

[tommieharris91]

these guys are huffing paint thinner
Fixed.

[IBleedCrimson]

these guys are huffing paint thinner talking about PSU-USC being the most exciting BCS Bowl. USC will roll PSU.

lol i just made the same comment but replace huffing paint with smoking crack

[oumartin]

Reece made the comment in the first half when tcu had 2nd and 13 and the back gets 8 yards and says he almost got the yardage lost back. I'm like WTF.

[King Crimson]

lotta contact on that play, where's the PI?

[IBleedCrimson]

tcu's receivers are supremely unimpressive

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Reece made the comment in the first half when tcu had 2nd and 13 and the back gets 8 yards and says he almost got the yardage lost back. I'm like WTF.

lol yeah. heard that and i knew something was wrong with that man.

[King Crimson]

in my mind, Rufus Alexander still blows up that statue of liberty play.

[SoonerBoognish]

That option is still tearin em up. Really anything to the outside is tearin' em up.

[DenverSooner751]

lol i just made the same comment but replace huffing paint with smoking crack

What's crack thinner? =)

[SoonerBoognish]

Keep Chuck Long far away from this drive, please.

[King Crimson]

FROGS!

[swardboy]

TD Froggies

[IBleedCrimson]

good run! touchdown tcu

[oumartin]

TOUCHDOWN HORNDOGS!


er

HORNFROGS.

[olevetonahill]

I said Take TCU and The Over Im sticking with that call .:D

[SoonerBoognish]

in my mind, Rufus Alexander still blows up that statue of liberty play.

And in my mind, the way this drive ended is how the drive near the end of the Sugar Bowl ends. :(

[King Crimson]

And in my mind, the way this drive ended is how the drive near the end of the Sugar Bowl ends. :(

i was sitting in that endzone. i can't go there or i won't sleep at night.

to Chuck's credit the delay screen over the middle to Kejuan was wide open and JW missed the throw.

other than that, i don't think about it. can't.

[IBleedCrimson]

boise receivers are infinitely better than tcu receivers

[8timechamps]

Boise State has the 13th ranked offense in the land....

TCU's not doing too bad against it.

[King Crimson]

oh god, this PI is too much.

well, replay....too much hands.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

holding is NEVER getting called and PI is getting called ridiculous.

[IBleedCrimson]

wow can someone tell these d backs to keep their hands off receivers

[Sooner98]

The frogs are making some pretty ridiculous penalties tonight.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

lol what a punk asking for another PI

[IBleedCrimson]

that was a huge sack

[King Crimson]

i really hate how announcers pick one or two themes in a game and continue to beat you over the head with them throughout.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

wait, did he REALLY just say "Florida will beat Oklahoma because they are from the SEC"
???

[SoonerBoognish]

wait, did he REALLY just say "Florida will beat Oklahoma because they are from the SEC"
???

I wouldn't know because i've found that games are infinitely more enjoyable with it muted. Having said that, he probably did.

[olevetonahill]

wait, did he REALLY just say "Florida will beat Oklahoma because they are from the SEC"
???

That was a Mississippi Coon dog calling in .

[oumartin]

here come the big 12 officials again. Thank goodness that dude from Oregon wasn't in the booth

[SoonerBoognish]

And here comes a huge third down...

[oumartin]

First down TCU,, c'mon clock

[IBleedCrimson]

eat that clock away froggies!

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

Poor clock management! Let the play clock run down!

[ouwasp]

Poor clock management! Let the play clock run down!

exactly! Brain Surgeon Patterson has easily allowed 30 seconds to stay on the clock before bs started calling timeouts....

[jkjsooner]

Poor clock management! Let the play clock run down!

Well, I think they caught the defense off-guard once by snapping with some time left on the clock. It's risky but it worked out for them on that one play.

[oumartin]

u don't throw, you make them burn the time out!!!

[SoonerBoognish]

Whew, they about screwed up exactly like i expected them to do... Lucky

[ratedrsuperstar]

Somebody snitched to the police on us !!!!


They are looking for a sexy SOB and a bunch of retards. They already have me, grab your helmets and run !

[ouwasp]

come on, vaunted frog D........

[SoonerBoognish]

Woooo!

[King Crimson]

INT!

hehhehehehee.

[oumartin]

Ooops young Kellan Moore :D

[IBleedCrimson]

interception!!1

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

Well, I think they caught the defense off-guard once by snapping with some time left on the clock. It's risky but it worked out for them on that one play.

A 2 yard gain with 9 seconds left on the play clock doesn't work for me, just saying.

[StormySooner-IN]

INTERCEPTED!!! GAME OVER!

:D :D

[XFollower]

the horny frogs defeat the unbroken ponies... beautiful

[SoonerBoognish]

Ok, so if i can count, as long as they don't do something stupid they can run it to zero.

[8timechamps]

Let's see if TCU can keep this level of play up next week.

...Oh, wait...we don't have a playoff.

[Sooner98]

[idiot Longhorn fan]OMG they're running the ball here, they're not taking a knee!They're trying to run up the score!!!! OMFG!!!![/idiot Longhorn fan]

[meoveryouxinfinity]

yay non conference opponent!

M-W-C! M-W-C! M-W-C!

[King Crimson]

suck it Lou.

jerkoff.

[SoonerBoognish]

So, the unwillingness to run the play clock leads to 4th and 3. Something improbable had better not happen...

[Sooner98]

I'm sure a hook and lateral would take EVERYONE by surprise here....

[Ground_Attack]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. what a poetic ending

[oumartin]

man, I was having flashbacks!

[King Crimson]

that wasn't the "same play they ran against Oklahoma".

ESPN sucks out loud.

[PrideTrombone]

Did Boise REALLY just try to run that ****ing hook and ladder again??? Way to watch the tape, TCU. Chris Petersen can suck my balls.

[StormySooner-IN]

lol. SUCKY LATERAL.


TCU WINS!

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Excuse me if it's aggy, but i take enjoyment in watching Boise State lose.

[IBleedCrimson]

good win for tcu. congrats froggies

[XFollower]

I would openly accept TCU in the big 12 in replacement of Baylor or Iowa State.

[BigBoomerInBigD]

S**K IT, BOISE!!!!!!!!

[Sooner98]

And Potato Aggy's perfect season comes to an end.

All the pundits who clamored about Boise State not getting a fair shot at a BCS bowl game, because they were undefeated, can now suck it.

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

I would openly accept TCU in the big 12 in replacement of Baylor or Iowa State.

Same here, seems to me they have a classy program, classy fans, and a great coach. Congrats Frogs

[SoonerBoognish]

Excuse me if it's aggy, but i take enjoyment in watching Boise State lose.

If it's aggy, color me aggy.

[SoonerBacker]

OK, I think I know the answer, but I have to ask..........

Now that TCU held the nation's #12 scoring offense to 16 points, will UF fans agree that maybe we have played against a team that has a quality defense?


NAW! TCU doesn't have SPEED! Right?

[DenverSooner751]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. what a poetic ending

Exactly! My wife stood up and said 'serves those f&=$ers right.' it's funny, she never cusses.

[catsigater]

OK, I think I know the answer, but I have to ask..........

Now that TCU held the nation's #12 scoring offense to 16 points, will UF fans agree that maybe we have played against a team that has a quality defense?

Maybe.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

OK, I think I know the answer, but I have to ask..........

Now that TCU held the nation's #12 scoring offense to 16 points, will UF fans agree that maybe we have played against a team that has a quality defense?


NAW! TCU doesn't have SPEED! Right?

[florida fan]R u kiddin me gooner? boise's ranking in scoring offense is inflated because they dont play any teams with any defense!!! just like yours!!![/florida fan]

[tommieharris91]

Excuse me if it's aggy, but i take enjoyment in watching Boise State lose.

Meh. I'm more happy to see a team OU beat won its bowl game.

[meoveryouxinfinity]

If it's aggy, color me aggy.

kinda makes me feel young again!

[ouwasp]

now we'll never have to see a certain #41 on a college field again, along with the accompanying "this is the player that..."

[Skysooner]

Gators need to stfu when it comes to our opponents. Let their talking be done on the field. They may or may not be the second coming, but there is no doubt OU is legit considering what just transpired tonight.

[Okie35]

OK, I think I know the answer, but I have to ask..........

Now that TCU held the nation's #12 scoring offense to 16 points, will UF fans agree that maybe we have played against a team that has a quality defense?


NAW! TCU doesn't have SPEED! Right?

hahaha i know right... tcu didn't even have their starting middle linebacker(that will play in the nfl) playing tonight either...

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Meh. I'm more happy to see a team OU beat won its bowl game.

True. But I'd root against them (Boise) if they were playing any one except:
Texas
the S-E-C!

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

TCU did to boise what they did to us, shut down the run and give up huge gains on the ground. of course, we were pretty obstinate about trying to run in the 2nd half with the big lead so we'd didn't slaughter their pass D.

that's one step towards us being stronger offensively/defensively than i figured us to be.

[olevetonahill]

kinda makes me feel young again!

Yer freakin 20 yrs old, yer Possed to Feel YOUNG .:D

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Yer freakin 20 yrs old, yer Possed to Feel YOUNG .:D

lol i feel 17 again. jailbait!

[olevetonahill]

lol i feel 17 again. jailbait!

Naw Yer Legal I can Lech all i want

[meoveryouxinfinity]

Naw Yer Legal I can Lech all i want

:hot:

[Crucifax Autumn]

Well, this is the best thing to happen so far in the Bowl season. I loved the Arizona game but this proves something.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

this quote from Ian Johnson from Boise


"They had better athletes than we've ever seen," Johnson said.

come on dude...

[Jacie]

Plenty of good for OUr team as a result of tonite's game.

We did have to hear about the 2006 Fiesta Bowl a couple of times but . . .

TCU won and Oklahoma was mentioned as being the team that not only scored 35 points on the toads but was the only team to score more than 14 on em.

Another positive was that the polls and the ESPN guys continue to predict gators over the Sooners. That is exactly what we want to hear going into the big game. Let their guys think they are so good that all they have to do is show up and OUr guys go in with a mission.

[BoulderSooner79]

this quote from Ian Johnson from Boise


"They had better athletes than we've ever seen," Johnson said.

come on dude...

And OU could have easily put 50 on TCU had they chosen to. TCU is a very good team and just a couple of skill players away from being elite this year.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

well too say that this TCU team has better athletes than the 2006 Sooners is pretty funny

[Leroy Lizard]

now we'll never have to see a certain #41 on a college field again, along with the accompanying "this is the player that..."

I don't think you're going to see him on a pro field either.

[BoulderSooner79]

yeah, well his team was just dominated after being spotted 13 points. He is going to say something good about the opponent. :)

[SicEmBaylor]

Same here, seems to me they have a classy program, classy fans, and a great coach. Congrats Frogs

This is a load of ****. TCU wouldn't compete any better in the Big XII than we have in football. And make no mistake, all they have is football. You'd gain a marginally better football team but lose what we bring to the table in other sports.

I am so f-ing sick of hearing about TCU replacing us. There are schools that I believe would be a better fit in the Big XII than us, but TCU is definitely not one of them.

Also, their fans and coach suck.

[the_edge]

I don't think you're going to see him on a pro field either.

He can knit a mean sweater, though.

[Piware]

This is a load of ****. TCU wouldn't compete any better in the Big XII than we have in football. And make no mistake, all they have is football. You'd gain a marginally better football team but lose what we bring to the table in other sports.

I am so f-ing sick of hearing about TCU replacing us. There are schools that I believe would be a better fit in the Big XII than us, but TCU is definitely not one of them.

Also, their fans and coach suck.

Take it easy SicEm. I think you are probably right about other sports like basketball, both men and women, but TCU definitely has the upper hand over Baylor with their football program.

As I recall, Baylor is in the Big XII due to some string pulling by a former Texas governor purely so you all could share bowl revenues. Not something Baylor had had access to before.

It is what it is and until something happens that causes the conference to be shaken up to equalize South versus North you all probably aren't going anywhere.

In the meantine, I LOVE mashed spuds!

[FroggyStyle22]

This is a load of ****. TCU wouldn't compete any better in the Big XII than we have in football. And make no mistake, all they have is football. You'd gain a marginally better football team but lose what we bring to the table in other sports.

I am so f-ing sick of hearing about TCU replacing us. There are schools that I believe would be a better fit in the Big XII than us, but TCU is definitely not one of them.

Also, their fans and coach suck.

Dude give it a rest. If we had the big XII resources that you get every year (and do not earn), we would be as good or better in most sports. Enjoy your bowl game.:rolleyes:

[soonerboy]

Dude give it a rest. If we had the big XII resources that you get every year (and do not earn), we would be as good or better in most sports. Enjoy your bowl game.:rolleyes:

lol nice

[L-Boy]

BSU must have the ugliest helmet logo in D-1.


Chalk it up to fear of the Orange and Blue.

[tommieharris91]

Dude give it a rest. If we had the big XII resources that you get every year (and do not earn), we would be as good or better in most sports. Enjoy your bowl game.:rolleyes:

I personally would like to see Iowa State get kicked out of conference for a decent school that actually brings something to the table.

[SicEmBaylor]

Take it easy SicEm. I think you are probably right about other sports like basketball, both men and women, but TCU definitely has the upper hand over Baylor with their football program.

As I recall, Baylor is in the Big XII due to some string pulling by a former Texas governor purely so you all could share bowl revenues. Not something Baylor had had access to before.

It is what it is and until something happens that causes the conference to be shaken up to equalize South versus North you all probably aren't going anywhere.

In the meantine, I LOVE mashed spuds!

First, Baylor was the most logical choice to be included when the Big XII was formed behind Texas and Aggie. We went to our share of bowls prior to the Big 12's formation, so any argument that one of the other Texas SWC schools should have been included over us is a load of crap.

Second, IT WAS NOT ANN RICHARDS THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR INCLUSION! Richards wasn't exactly a die hard Bear even if she did go to school here. It was Bob Bullock that was most responsible for our inclusion. Of course it was political, but that's true for all the Texas school joining the Big XII and not just us.

[Crucifax Autumn]

It is what it is and until something happens that causes the conference to be shaken up to equalize South versus North you all probably aren't going anywhere.

Hell, Baylor's one of the teams that keep it fair...we have our own Iowa State in the South! LOL

J/K Long ago I earned some repect for Baylor based on having seen some of their backs in High School and watching them perform well in college.

Besides, I wouldn't be surprised with some of their recent improvement to be competing for 3rd in the south soon and definitely hitting a lot of bowl games in the next few years.

As for TCU, have 'em replace A&M! If not that then bring 'em in when Texass whines their way into the SEC.

[OKLA21FAN]

I personally would like to see Iowa State get kicked out of conference for a decent school that actually brings something to the table.
or CU

ISU and CU don't even offer all the 'mainstream' big 12 sports in which Baylor does. (and BU is quite successful at them aswell and offers much depth to the big 12) Sure, BU is not a football power house, but then again, neither is CU or ISU.

bottom line, Baylor is good for the big 12 (just as TCU would be good for them too, but not at the expense of Baylor)

[XFollower]

I'm sorry to sicem, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings so I'll change it to....


I would openly accept TCU in the big 12 in replacement of A&M, pokie state (still wanna play them non-conference), CU, or Iowa State.

[1890MilesToNorman]

Fantasy Big XII

OU
Texas
Nebraska
USC
Alabama
Michigan
Ohio St
Tennessee
Notre Dame
Penn St
Florida
Yale :D every league needs a patsy!

How bout them apples? :P

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

This is a load of ****. TCU wouldn't compete any better in the Big XII than we have in football. And make no mistake, all they have is football. You'd gain a marginally better football team but lose what we bring to the table in other sports.

I am so f-ing sick of hearing about TCU replacing us. There are schools that I believe would be a better fit in the Big XII than us, but TCU is definitely not one of them.

Also, their fans and coach suck.

You seriously neg me because of my opinion of TCU? Get some class, this is pathetic. I encountered many classy TCU fans at the game this year and they were extremely nice and respectful. And marginally better? That's a matter of opinion there as well my friend. I concur with we lose what you bring to the table with M/W Basketball, track, etc but that comment was directed at Iowa State from me. And your "their coach sucks" comment, I'll take Gary Patterson over Art Briles any day of the week and I think most of this board will take him and his D over Briles and his lack luster offense.(I have seen it for a long time as I played against him at Stephenville 2 different times in the playoffs).

[cvsooner]

If TCU doesn't turn over the ball, I'm not sure Boise scores more than a couple of field goals. Turnovers were all that kept this game close.