Interesting find drug from Estonian lake

[Okla-homey]

WW II Russian tank with German markings uncovered after 62 years. WW II Buffs will find this interesting. Even after 62 years (and a little tinkering), they were able to fire up the diesel engine!

A Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer pulled the abandoned tank from its tomb under the boggy bank of a lake near Johvi , Estonia . The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-ton machine with a top speed of 53km/hr.

From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the northeastern part of Estonia . Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior.) On 19th September, 1944, German troops began an organized retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake to conceal it when its captors left the area. http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5243/tankatt00034gj9.jpg

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[OUinFLA]

and I worry about my Chevy truck starting in the morning?

[Curly Bill]

Why can't I ever find anything cool like that?

[Curly Bill]

http://weblog.sinteur.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/6.jpg

[Poli Sci]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/loeq46/vince.jpg


The Germans always make good stuff

[LoyalFan]

Nyet, Comrade. They just don't make 'em like they used too.

Ivan Ivanovitch
People's Tank and Woodchipper Factory #32
Retired

[Flagstaffsooner]

and I worry about my Chevy truck starting in the morning?Buy a Ford.;)

[SoonerJack]

Why can't I ever find anything cool like that?

"Mom, can I keep it? Puhleeeeeeeze.

[OUDoc]

Eddie Sutton drove tanks for the Nazis?

[bri]

Only if they found an SUV with an entombed soccer mom pinned underneath the tank.

[Lott's Bandana]

SicEm needs to see this thread. He gets wood when tanks are brought into any discussion.

Actually, I think that is the only way that particular scenario occurs.

[bri]

So, we're sayin' he should stick to fat chicks or something?

[Veritas]

That is so awesome. The T34 is a legendary machine and it figures it would fire right up after that long and after those types of storage conditions. I just finished reading a book on the battle of Kursk so good timing homey.

[StoopTroup]

More proof that Germans are lousy drivers. :D

[85Sooner]

Damn they sure don't make things today like they used to.

[Cam]

How cool would it be to find something like that?

Thanks Homey.

[OUDoc]

David Hasselhoff's album was still playing on the 8-track.

[OUDoc]

Crap.

Stereo 8 was created in 1964 by a consortium led by Bill Lear of Lear Jet Corporation

[Taxman71]

Maybe the city of Tulsa can claim that was supposed to be in their time capsule.

[BigRedJed]

There must be almost no oxygen in the mud at the bottom of that lake. It looks like it could have been driven into there last week.

[BigRedJed]

In other news, remember back in the '70s when eastern Europeans would risk going to jail to own a pair of blue jeans?

[SicEmBaylor]

That is so awesome. The T34 is a legendary machine and it figures it would fire right up after that long and after those types of storage conditions. I just finished reading a book on the battle of Kursk so good timing homey.

Kursk is my favorite eastern front battle.

This find would be rare enough if it were just a T-34 but its good condition and German markings make it pretty extraordinary.

[BigRedJed]

*sproing*

[picasso]

Hitler shoulda stopped after Poland.

sincerely,

von ribbentrop

[LoyalFan]

Kursk is my favorite eastern front battle.




Gee. Sorry you missed it...heh.

LF
PanzerOffizier, Emeritus

[SicEmBaylor]

Hitler shoulda stopped after Poland.

sincerely,

von ribbentrop

There was no reason to stop after Poland. The best opportunities for him to stop were after the annexation of Czechoslovakia and after conquest of Western Europe. War had already been declared against Germany with the invasion of Poland, so they'd have had everything to lose by not invading western Europe.

He shouldn't have invaded the Soviet Union or at he should have invaded a few weeks earlier, but I don't think that would have made a difference in the final outcome of things.

[TUSooner]

That is so awesome. The T34 is a legendary machine and it figures it would fire right up after that long and after those types of storage conditions....

Heh. My first thought was, "Man, those T34s really WERE as tough as advertised!"

[8timechamps]

So, does anyone know if a body was say "left" in a muddy bog, could be found and identified?

Just, uh, wondering....yep. Just wondering.

[Veritas]

So, does anyone know if a body was say "left" in a muddy bog, could be found and identified?

Just, uh, wondering....yep. Just wondering.
If you leave it in not just any muddy bog, but a pete bog, then yes, decomposition will be slowed dramatically.

Also, Hitler started going off the rails strategically in 1942. His ego and subsequent obsession with Stalingrad doomed him (and the 6th) to failure on the eastern front. As an example, he was so convinced that Operation Barbarossa would be a fast success that he refused to supply his troops for a winter campaign. In Russia. Dumbass.

[Okla-homey]

If you leave it in not just any muddy bog, but a pete bog, then yes, decomposition will be slowed dramatically.

Also, Hitler started going off the rails strategically in 1942. His ego and subsequent obsession with Stalingrad doomed him (and the 6th) to failure on the eastern front. As an example, he was so convinced that Operation Barbarossa would be a fast success that he refused to supply his troops for a winter campaign. In Russia. Dumbass.


Yep, and the really stupid part is Hitler had just inked a pact with Stalin that likely would have kept the USSR out of the war if Hitler had been content to focus on western Europe and north Africa. Stalin was absolutely flabbergasted when Hitler attacked the Rodina.

[Jerk]

He shouldn't have invaded the Soviet Union or at he should have invaded a few weeks earlier, but I don't think that would have made a difference in the final outcome of things.You are probably wrong, and here's why:

3/4 of Germany's military was tied up on the eastern front. Take that away and Hitler has a much more massive military to guard mainland Europe from Allied invasion.

Also keep in mind that Germany developed such nifty devices as the Rocket, the ME-262 jet fighter, and were working on 'the bomb.' There is no doubt that by not having Russia in the war it would have been prolonged greatly...enough time for the Nazi's to further develop and mass produce their super-weapons.

The greatest mistake Hitler made was not listening to his generals.

eta- actually his greatest mistake was not studying the history of Napoleon. Trying to invade Britain, failing, and turning around to attack Russia in the late summer is a bad idea.