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mjhurani
12/17/2008, 06:33 AM
I read a few posts where people think that Florida is favored by 3 pts because they have a "home field advantage". Not true. They are favored by 3 because the oddsmakers and the betting public believe they have a better defense and are a slightly better overall team.

Here's why Florida does NOT have a home field advantage:

1) The game will be played in Miami, which is roughly 340 miles from Gainesville, the city where Florida's campus is. 340 may as well be 1500 miles which is roughly how far Norman is from Miami. Sure, the game is in the state of Florida, but Gainesville is way north of Miami and is a different world, so to speak, than Miami.

2) OU plays on an outdoor grass field in Norman. Florida plays on an outdoor grass field in Gainesville. The teams will meet on Jan 8th on an outdoor grass field. Neither team has ever played on that field to my knowledge, and if they have, these current players were not on the team then. Neither team has any familiarity with the stadium so that part of the equation is a wash.

3) Both teams will get to Miami right after the New Year and will have several days to get acclimated to the city and the local weather, 1 hr time difference from Oklahoma, etc.

4) There will be roughly about even amounts of fans from both schools. The remaining tickets will be bought up by rich corporate types who could give two ****s about who wins the game. The crowd noise will not favor or hinder either team because there will be no majority of fans for either side there.

In Jan '04 when OU had to play LSU in the Superdome, that was a huge advantage for LSU because the stadium is 68 miles from LSU's campus and LSU had played there many times so they were familiar with the environment. In Jan '06 USC had a decent HF advantage over Texas in the Rose Bowl because of proximity to USC's campus, which is about 20 miles, but it obviously did not matter because Texas had Vince Young. In Jan '08 LSU had the advantage over Ohio St because of the reasons I mentioned earlier that they had versus OU 4 yrs earlier.

If OU loses this game on Jan 8th, it will be because the other guys were just better. No way should our guys and our fans go in there thinking Florida has some distinct advantage, though. There will be just as many OU fans there as Florida fans, and the other factors regarding the stadium, the type of field, and where it's located, will be neutral factors.

I wish they could kick this thing off tomorrow. The long wait for the game is brutal.

Boomer.

AlbqSooner
12/17/2008, 07:38 AM
The reason for the 3 point difference in the spread is that the odds makers think that is what it will take to get Florida fans, OU fans and non-fan gamblers to wager approximately the same amount on each team.

When you take the population base of the Southeast U.S. and the population base of the Great Plains region, factor in the percentage of those population bases that wager on college football, and consider the historical pattern of wagering on each team nationwide, you come up with UF as a 3 point favorite. Odds makers don't care about who wins the game, only how many points on either side it takes to entice the "not betting with my heart" money to move to one side or the other, thereby balancing the books.

The ideal to which odds makers strive is to have equal amounts bet on each team. That way, the losers pay the winners and the book keeps the 10% vigorish. (Service charge)

Flagstaffsooner
12/17/2008, 07:48 AM
Im lost in the snowstorm again.

Vaevictis
12/17/2008, 07:56 AM
1) The game will be played in Miami, which is roughly 340 miles from Gainesville, the city where Florida's campus is. 340 may as well be 1500 miles which is roughly how far Norman is from Miami. Sure, the game is in the state of Florida, but Gainesville is way north of Miami and is a different world, so to speak, than Miami.

340 miles isn't that much. I know 15ish-year season ticket holders who travel more than that to every home game. And probably 85% of the time, it's driving.

There are also going to be more Florida fans in Miami than there are Sooner fans. Sorry, it just goes with the territory; sort of like I'd expect to find more Sooner fans anywhere within 350 miles of Norman than I would Florida fans.

It may not be a strong home-field advantage, but it's not dead-even either.

SeaCay
12/17/2008, 08:26 AM
1) The game will be played in Miami, which is roughly 340 miles from Gainesville, the city where Florida's campus is. 340 may as well be 1500 miles which is roughly how far Norman is from Miami. Sure, the game is in the state of Florida, but Gainesville is way north of Miami and is a different world, so to speak, than Miami.




Gee Wally, do ALL Sooner fans live in Norman?

Who'd a think it...

mjhurani
12/17/2008, 08:43 AM
The reason for the 3 point difference in the spread is that the odds makers think that is what it will take to get Florida fans, OU fans and non-fan gamblers to wager approximately the same amount on each team.

When you take the population base of the Southeast U.S. and the population base of the Great Plains region, factor in the percentage of those population bases that wager on college football, and consider the historical pattern of wagering on each team nationwide, you come up with UF as a 3 point favorite. Odds makers don't care about who wins the game, only how many points on either side it takes to entice the "not betting with my heart" money to move to one side or the other, thereby balancing the books.

The ideal to which odds makers strive is to have equal amounts bet on each team. That way, the losers pay the winners and the book keeps the 10% vigorish. (Service charge)

The oddsmakers/sportsbooks in Vegas & offshore are more concerned with the professional bettors who bet thousands a game than they are about the nickel & dimer recreational bettors who will wager $50 on it. If the line is off, then the pro bettors will hammer it. The pros believe that Florida -3 is the correct line, which is why the line is not moving. If the pro bettors felt the value was with OU +3, they would be betting it in droves and the line would be dropping. It's not, and in fact it's going the other way. College football lines, unlike pro lines, don't take too much money to move off of the 3. Pro lines take enormous amounts of money on a 3 and still don't move. The vig goes to -120, -125, like that. Right now, the line is Florida -3 -115 at most shops in Vegas and offshore which means Florida -3 is getting much more money than OU +3. Just another reason why I want OU to kill the Gators, not just beat them by a small margin. It will be fun to see the Sooner doubters lose their cash in bundles.

GG84
12/17/2008, 09:28 AM
I have no idea what the crowd will be like on January 8th, but I'd have a hard time imagining that it won't be at least 65/35 in favor of the Gators.

Gainesville may be a 4 hour drive from here, but there are a LOT of Gator alumni who live in South Florida. This is the home city for the Hurricanes, and I willl say that there aren't even more Cane fans than Gator fans down here.

Most of the club level seats were optioned to Dolphin season ticket holders first, of which many are also Gator fans.

SoonerMom2
12/17/2008, 09:32 AM
South Florida is Miami territory not UF territory. The fans I know who live in S. Florida are all pulling for OU to beat Florida and along with FSU fans. We played FSU in 2000 in Miami and our fans were just as loud if not louder. It is not home field for FL in Miami -- never will be.

SoonerMom2
12/17/2008, 09:35 AM
I have no idea what the crowd will be like on January 8th, but I'd have a hard time imagining that it won't be at least 65/35 in favor of the Gators.

Gainesville may be a 4 hour drive from here, but there are a LOT of Gator alumni who live in South Florida. This is the home city for the Hurricanes, and I willl say that there aren't even more Cane fans than Gator fans down here.

Most of the club level seats were optioned to Dolphin season ticket holders first, of which many are also Gator fans.

As we discovered in 2000, there are also a lot of Sooner fans in S. Florida maybe not as many as FL but still a lot and can guarantee you that any Miami and FSU fans are going to be yelling for the Sooners. Not everyone that has season tickets to the Dophins in the club level is a FL fan -- my nephew and his entire group is rooting for the Sooners just like his father did in 2000 against FSU. Now if we were playing Miami, no way.

GG84
12/17/2008, 09:41 AM
I guess we'll see on January 8th ;)

yermom
12/17/2008, 09:52 AM
340 miles is nothing

how many OU fans were in KC to freeze our asses off?

that wasn't even a national championship game

did Gator fans have any problems getting to Atlanta?

i'm not saying that the home field advantage will be awful, but i'd imagine the fan ratio should easily favor the Gators because of distance

Rock Hard Corn Frog
12/17/2008, 10:08 AM
340 miles isn't that much. I know 15ish-year season ticket holders who travel more than that to every home game. And probably 85% of the time, it's driving.

There are also going to be more Florida fans in Miami than there are Sooner fans. Sorry, it just goes with the territory; sort of like I'd expect to find more Sooner fans anywhere within 350 miles of Norman than I would Florida fans.

It may not be a strong home-field advantage, but it's not dead-even either.

I concur. We aren't in a Sugar Bowl vs LSU situation where we were clearly playing a road game. I don't think the offense is going to have much problem with crowd noise and I do think there will be a very good OU contingent.

That said I figure the crowd ratio will be similar to what OU had in KC against MIZZOU. Something like 55% Fla, 40% OU and about 5% neutral.

I do think Florida has at least somewhat of a homefield advantage though just like if we were playing Florida in say Houston. Sure there are a lot more Aggie and Whorn fans in the area but there would be more OU fans than Gator fans.

BermudaSooner
12/17/2008, 10:19 AM
That said I figure the crowd ratio will be similar to what OU had in KC against MIZZOU. Something like 55% Fla, 40% OU and about 5% neutral.


I wonder if we will get those Texas fans still claiming a right to be there like we did in KC.

AgriGator
12/17/2008, 12:02 PM
South Florida is Miami territory not UF territory. The fans I know who live in S. Florida are all pulling for OU to beat Florida and along with FSU fans. We played FSU in 2000 in Miami and our fans were just as loud if not louder. It is not home field for FL in Miami -- never will be.

When UF plays Miami in Miami there are more Gator fans than hurricane fans in the stands. South Florida is Gator country. That being said, I hope the OU fans that come to the game have a great time, spend all their money and go home sad. Jan 8. can't come fast enough. Good luck.

Position Limit
12/17/2008, 12:17 PM
1) The game will be played in Miami, which is roughly 340 miles from Gainesville, the city where Florida's campus is. 340 may as well be 1500 miles which is roughly how far Norman is from Miami. Sure, the game is in the state of Florida, but Gainesville is way north of Miami and is a different world, so to speak, than Miami.

i didnt realize that every florida fan in the world lives in gainesville. that's freaking amazing. first time i've ever read such a thing. there should be a study done on this fact. absurd!!!

one the things i remember about the last beatdown we took on that field was how bad our players were slipping all over the place. especially the recievers. i sure hope the equipment manager brings his a game along with the team.

mjhurani
12/17/2008, 01:37 PM
My suspicions are that the OU fans who travel to the game from other cities + the OU fans who live in the area and attend the game + the Gator Haters of which there are more than people think there are = almost as many, if not as many as the Gator backers at the game. At worst, out of all the people who actually hoot and holler at the game, 40% should be rooting for OU. That's at worst, so say 60-40. Not much of an advantage. It didn't help USC in Jan '06 so hopefully it won't help Florida either.

I still believe the rooters will be closer to 50-50 but perhaps I'm naive. Those of us watching in our living rooms will have to judge from how loud the crowd gets when each team scores, but those of you at the game will be able to tell much better plus you can see how much red people are wearing compared to blue. I think it'll be pretty damn loud every time OU scores, and not much louder if at all when Florida does. But personally, I believe home field advantage has more to do with the comfort of the players being in their own homes and playing in their own home stadium. Neither has that here and the Miami venue makes it far enough from Gainesville, IMO, that there will be plenty of objective fans, I think.

For those at the game looking to side with a team, this Sooner group has gained a bunch of new fans around the country for A) scoring 58 pts+ in 6 straight games, and you know people love offense and B) taking the classier approach of the 2 schools involved in the Big-12 South tie-breaker debate

Illgator
12/17/2008, 03:17 PM
South Florida is Miami territory not UF territory. The fans I know who live in S. Florida are all pulling for OU to beat Florida and along with FSU fans. We played FSU in 2000 in Miami and our fans were just as loud if not louder. It is not home field for FL in Miami -- never will be.

Ummmm....do you know anything about football in the state of Florida? Im guessing not if you think S. Florida is Miami territory. Miami doesn't have a territory...they do not even have their own stadium. Miami draws about 20k fans a game and their last sell out was when they played UF in the orange bowl in 2003. Then you bring up fsu? Again the only time they ever sell out is when UF plays there. Half the stadium is orange and blue for that game. fsu even had to resort to selling season tickets to the local community college students for $99. UF is the ONLY team in Florida that sells out every single game...actually there wasn't another team that sold out a game this year. Neither fsu or SCum fans will be there...they don't even show up for their own games let alone for UF's NC game. UF will have far more fans in attendance that OU.

tnraider1
12/17/2008, 06:08 PM
Not sure if FL fans travel better than FSU fans, but in 2000, there were quite a few more FSU fans than Sooner fans, at least before halftime. :-) But even with all those fans doing the chop, you could hear the Sooner fans turning their chant into OOOOOOOOOKLAHOOOOOMAAAA, OOOOOOOOOKLAHOOOMAAAA. What a great game that was. Now let's do it again.

nbhadja88
12/17/2008, 06:23 PM
I read a few posts where people think that Florida is favored by 3 pts because they have a "home field advantage". Not true. They are favored by 3 because the oddsmakers and the betting public believe they have a better defense and are a slightly better overall team.

Here's why Florida does NOT have a home field advantage:

1) The game will be played in Miami, which is roughly 340 miles from Gainesville, the city where Florida's campus is. 340 may as well be 1500 miles which is roughly how far Norman is from Miami. Sure, the game is in the state of Florida, but Gainesville is way north of Miami and is a different world, so to speak, than Miami.

2) OU plays on an outdoor grass field in Norman. Florida plays on an outdoor grass field in Gainesville. The teams will meet on Jan 8th on an outdoor grass field. Neither team has ever played on that field to my knowledge, and if they have, these current players were not on the team then. Neither team has any familiarity with the stadium so that part of the equation is a wash.

3) Both teams will get to Miami right after the New Year and will have several days to get acclimated to the city and the local weather, 1 hr time difference from Oklahoma, etc.

4) There will be roughly about even amounts of fans from both schools. The remaining tickets will be bought up by rich corporate types who could give two ****s about who wins the game. The crowd noise will not favor or hinder either team because there will be no majority of fans for either side there.

In Jan '04 when OU had to play LSU in the Superdome, that was a huge advantage for LSU because the stadium is 68 miles from LSU's campus and LSU had played there many times so they were familiar with the environment. In Jan '06 USC had a decent HF advantage over Texas in the Rose Bowl because of proximity to USC's campus, which is about 20 miles, but it obviously did not matter because Texas had Vince Young. In Jan '08 LSU had the advantage over Ohio St because of the reasons I mentioned earlier that they had versus OU 4 yrs earlier.

If OU loses this game on Jan 8th, it will be because the other guys were just better. No way should our guys and our fans go in there thinking Florida has some distinct advantage, though. There will be just as many OU fans there as Florida fans, and the other factors regarding the stadium, the type of field, and where it's located, will be neutral factors.

I wish they could kick this thing off tomorrow. The long wait for the game is brutal.

Boomer.

#1 is way off. Do you know how many UF alum there are down here in Miami-West Palm Beach- Ft Lauderdale? A lottttt. The U of Miami is a small private university. UF is a huge public university. The entire state is stacked with UF alum.

Gainesville is a very small town. Most people who go to UF live in a different area. South Florida has a high rate of kids who go to UF.

2. I agree the field will not make a difference unless it was astro turf or something like that.

3. The UF roster has several players from Miami and most have already been to Miami. The climate between Gainesville and Miami is not that different. Now if this game was played in the summer, spring, fall, it would be a huge advantage to UF. In the winter though, it is usually 75 degrees during the day and 60 something at night. It can reach above 80 degrees frequently during the winter day, but the game is at night. Though it is humid.

4. It depends on how well OU can travel. Since this is in Florida, it naturally is gonna be UF's advantage crowd wise. OU fans will have to fly a lot, UF fans already live in South Florida or just have to make a 3 hour drive from Gville to Miami.

In the 06 NC game, OSU had a clear advantage over UF crowd wise because many buckeyes like in that desert. I can't imagine UF having anything but a more clear advantage.

mjhurani
12/17/2008, 06:40 PM
nbh, I don't live in Florida, I live on the West Coast. However, I have been to Miami twice for extended stays. I can tell you that Miami is not a 3 hr drive from Gainesville unless you're avg'ing 110 miles per hr on the turnpike. It's roughly 340 miles and on that turnpike it's easily 4.5 hrs, maybe 5.

Re: OU fans traveling well, they absolutely do. I was at the Holiday Bowl '05 and there were many thousands of Sooner backers in the stands and we were very, very loud.

yermom
12/17/2008, 06:55 PM
we travel well, but ~350 isn't that much of an ordeal. i left for KC from Norman at 11:00am the day of the game and found a hotel that night then drove home the next day

someone in Gainesville could do the same to go to the game in Miami. someone in OK has to make a lot more arrangements and spend lots more time and $$$ to get there

Stoop Dawg
12/17/2008, 07:17 PM
Miami doesn't have a territory...

Exactly. I lived in Ft Lauderdale for 3 years and met maybe 2 UM fans.


Not sure if FL fans travel better than FSU fans, but in 2000, there were quite a few more FSU fans than Sooner fans, at least before halftime. :-) But even with all those fans doing the chop, you could hear the Sooner fans turning their chant into OOOOOOOOOKLAHOOOOOMAAAA, OOOOOOOOOKLAHOOOMAAAA. What a great game that was. Now let's do it again.

Exactly. In 2000 the stadium was 75% FSU fans and the OU fans were still louder - even before the game.


The climate between Gainesville and Miami is not that different. Now if this game was played in the summer, spring, fall, it would be a huge advantage to UF.

:confused:

The average temps only vary about 10 degrees in Miami year-round. It's always close to 80 degrees. If there is a team that can't play in that climate, then they have no business playing in the NC game anyway.

Now, if the game were in Minnesota, that's a different story.


It depends on how well OU can travel. Since this is in Florida, it naturally is gonna be UF's advantage crowd wise. OU fans will have to fly a lot, UF fans already live in South Florida or just have to make a 3 hour drive from Gville to Miami.

I've been to several BCS games this decade (my team plays in a lot of them) and I can say for certain that the number of fans does not indicate "home field advantage". In 2000, OU fans were waaaaay out-numbered but were still louder than FSU fans. In 2003 LSU had us out-numbered, but we were loud as hell - especially on the last drive. Last year in Glendale, OU fans waaaaay out-numbered WV fans but WV fans were still louder than we were.

I'm guessing that the crowd noise will be roughly equal at the start of the game. Of course, play on the field will determine which fans stay loud.

ouleaf
12/17/2008, 08:00 PM
Of course UF will have a home-field advantage in terms of crowd percentage. They will easily have more fans at that game than we will. Mark it down. I know we travel well, but it won't be enough to over come UFs numbers. It will definitely be more of an away game for us than a true neutral field.

goingoneight
12/17/2008, 08:22 PM
It's 4th and 1, we've been otherwise dominated at the line of scrimmage, we need to convert here... not only here, we're down and a field goal won't cut it...

Now you tell me... does a loud crowd have anything to do with playing good defense?

65-21 comes to mind.

Miami, FLORIDA. Not Miam-uh, OKLAHOMA.

I don't buy this. I realize we have a favorable record in the Orange Bowl, and I realize that USC was even further away from home when they raped us in the Orange Bowl... I even realize OUr defense totally shut down the fightin' Weinkes in a relatively silent Orange Bowl eight years ago. Keep in mind those were surprise performances. Hopefully we're due for a positive surprise performance.

If we can score on these guys, we can win. I don't mean scoring mercy points in the 4th Qtr to bring it within three scores... I mean get out there and do what we have done all year long and score quick and often. Florida may not have played a lot of "great offenses" in most peoples' eyes, but they're a solid defensive team and all it takes is a couple of mistakes on OU's side for 55-19 or 48-28 to happen all over again.

Oh, and stop it with the "greatest offense in the history of football" crap, too. We heard that about Florida State and OU in 2004. Problem was facing a National Championship-caliber defensive effort, one which we have no idea which team will come up with quite yet.

As a fan, the team has my support and most certainly excitement regardless of the outcome... but also as a fan, I see nothing wrong with taking the shades off and realizing we're dogs in this game right now for a reason. As a fan, there's nothing wrong with saying "prove it, guys" whilst screaming "BOOMAH!!!" along the way.

I want to see a clean, injury-free game... if I had to be picky, I'd ask that the special teams actually show up for this one since it looks like it could be a good, narrow one. I'd also like to see us hold UF to 24 or less, which I know we're capable of because on a good day/night, we have held a lot of teams to that range on actual defense. Problem is our KO coverage has given teams short fields WAY too often and the 17-point-type of performances end up inflating to 31-point efforts by OUr opponents. Problem with holding UF to 24 (my ideal line), we have to score obviously 24 or more to have a shot at the W. When you score at will all season long, you think two things... are you that good or is your opposition that BAD defensively. Nebraska, A&M, Texas Tech, OSU, Missouri... any of those teams put so much as a grass stain on Bradford (that wasn't self-inflicted)? Will the line step up and protect Sam or will we see them get mauled like they were mauled by West Virginia? Here's a hint: UF is better in the front seven than was WVU. Man up on the line of scrimmage and take care of the football. It's going to take a full-team great effort. We'll see if they can peak as a whole. This would be a helluva game to get OUr full potential versus their full potential.

Desert Sapper
12/17/2008, 08:50 PM
Does it really matter if UF has a home field anything? Ole Miss went into Ben Hill Griffin this year and beat the Gators. The Rebels, all that 'big time' SEC D aside, are not and never will be the Oklahoma Sooners. The End.

Jdog
12/17/2008, 10:31 PM
I love it, we will have played 3 games this year at "Neutral sites".

Texas in Texas
Mizzou in Missouri
and
Florida in Florida

Kind of like Playing LSU in the Sugar Bowl or playing Florida State in the Orange Bowl.

Jdog
12/17/2008, 10:37 PM
South Florida is Miami territory not UF territory. The fans I know who live in S. Florida are all pulling for OU to beat Florida and along with FSU fans. We played FSU in 2000 in Miami and our fans were just as loud if not louder. It is not home field for FL in Miami -- never will be.

We were able to shut the FSU fans up by singing OOOOOkLahoooomaaaa over and over to their tomahawk chop war tune. They didn't know what to do after that - It was great.

Stoop Dawg
12/17/2008, 10:54 PM
Will the line step up and protect Sam or will we see them get mauled like they were mauled by West Virginia? Here's a hint: UF is better in the front seven than was WVU.

This is not the same o-line that played against WVU. Well, it's the same guys, but with more experience and another year under their belt. Last year the o-line was extremely young and was a weakness all year. This year they have generally been a strength (at least in pass protection).

Other than that, I agree with most of what you said. I always think we're going to win big in our bowl game, and you see what has happened the last couple of years. I don't think any OU fan can seriously think this game is a "gimmie".

JLEW1818
12/17/2008, 11:01 PM
please tell me that the baseball infield will not still be on the field?

RedstickSooner
12/17/2008, 11:03 PM
340 miles isn't that much. I know 15ish-year season ticket holders who travel more than that to every home game. And probably 85% of the time, it's driving.

There are also going to be more Florida fans in Miami than there are Sooner fans. Sorry, it just goes with the territory; sort of like I'd expect to find more Sooner fans anywhere within 350 miles of Norman than I would Florida fans.

It may not be a strong home-field advantage, but it's not dead-even either.

Home games don't end at midnight.

Only moron college students would be willing to drive home 350 miles at midnight or one a.m. after the game ends, and moron college students can't afford tickets to national championship games.

edit: no offense, you dagblasted college students. I think I'm mostly just bitter over how sleepy I get when I stay up too late nowadays :)

JLEW1818
12/17/2008, 11:05 PM
The point is, it is a national championship game, Florida fans will be all over the stadium.

o0Dan0o
12/17/2008, 11:08 PM
I think we have enough fans with enough money to make this game, in sunny Miami Florida. Remember that the bowl allots schools 16,000 tickets. Outside of this, the remaining ~44,500 seats, will be sold to the highest bidder by scalpers and "ticket brokers," which I'm pretty sure is another name for scalper. Highest bidder goes, and that depends more on wallets and less on the distance to the game.

Now, I expect Florida to have more fans there, but not the 65-35% that someone said, maybe more likes 55-45% or a little more. Still, a 10% difference is significant.
Dan

bob
12/17/2008, 11:12 PM
Take it from me, I've been to both National Championship games in Miami, Flordia will have about 70% fans to our 30%. No question.
One questions is how many tickets did OU get to sell to their fan base. In KC, OU only got 8,500. I had to get mine on the internet. Don't fool yourself. We will be outnumbered. But it didn't hurt us in 2000. If Stoops has them ready to play, it shouldn't hurt them this year.
Pray that no more players go out with injuries or for other reasons.

Crucifax Autumn
12/17/2008, 11:19 PM
As long as we strike quick, we'll shut them up.

Simple.

engigator
12/17/2008, 11:26 PM
Look at the alumni gator clubs in the state if you don't think there are a ton of Gator fans down south. Some pretty big pockets all over the state. Remember the Gator nation is everywhere.

As far as the field goes, the state high school championships were played in Miami for the last 3 years or so, so there will be some familiarity for some of the players. Having said that I don't think that means much. The better team will win in the end.

SeaCay
12/17/2008, 11:36 PM
Home games don't end at midnight.

Only moron college students would be willing to drive home 350 miles at midnight or one a.m. after the game ends, and moron college students can't afford tickets to national championship games.

edit: no offense, you dagblasted college students. I think I'm mostly just bitter over how sleepy I get when I stay up too late nowadays :)

Are there hotels in OK?

(No, not MOTELS, I asked about HOTELS).

dingyibvs
12/18/2008, 12:03 AM
Look at the alumni gator clubs in the state if you don't think there are a ton of Gator fans down south. Some pretty big pockets all over the state. Remember the Gator nation is everywhere.

As far as the field goes, the state high school championships were played in Miami for the last 3 years or so, so there will be some familiarity for some of the players. Having said that I don't think that means much. The better team will win in the end.

I think they were played in the now-demolished real Orange Bowl though. I don't know if JRS was ever used for the HS championships.

zulumarc06mc
12/18/2008, 05:06 AM
Are there hotels in OK?

(No, not MOTELS, I asked about HOTELS).



Kidding right?.... this reminds me of when people ask if everyone here lives in Tepees

Crucifax Autumn
12/18/2008, 05:15 AM
Is there intelligence in Florida?

Yes?


I don't mean people from other states at NASA...

SeaCay
12/18/2008, 07:42 AM
Kidding right?.... this reminds me of when people ask if everyone here lives in Tepees

Read the boldfaced quote in my OP. Redsticksooner is under the impression that UF fans will not be attending the game because it will be ending at midnight. There are probably more hotel rooms in the Miami metro area than most places in the world.

I plan on driving to South Beach to celebrate for a few hours, then hit my hotel room before driving 350 miles home the next day.

engigator
12/18/2008, 08:52 AM
Because the game ends at midnight and we can't drive past midnight and obviously hotels are out of the question...we decided to sell our house and move everything we have to Miami for the month of January. That is the only way we could go to the game. We'll probably move back home sometime in February if we can't get our old house back. I'm sure this is what most Gator fans plan on doing since hotels and driving after midnight are very bad ideas.

SeaCay
12/18/2008, 09:00 AM
Because the game ends at midnight and we can't drive past midnight and obviously hotels are out of the question...we decided to sell our house and move everything we have to Miami for the month of January. That is the only way we could go to the game. We'll probably move back home sometime in February if we can't get our old house back. I'm sure this is what most Gator fans plan on doing since hotels and driving after midnight are very bad ideas.


Much more difficult for you than the typical OU fan. All they have to do it pull up the steps and tow the house to Miami for the game. :pop:

Gator996
12/18/2008, 09:43 AM
Not sure if FL fans travel better than FSU fans, but in 2000, there were quite a few more FSU fans than Sooner fans, at least before halftime. :-)

Let me assure you that UF travels faaaaaaar better than FSU.

We will outnumber OU considerably and be loud as hell....

...but it won't have much effect on the outcome of the game IMHO.