Would one of you smart guys explain this to me...

[Okla-homey]

Why does a one loss, SEC champ Florida team who played The Citadel get to the MNC in 2008 while a 12-0 SEC champ Auburn team who played The Citadel was denied the MNC game in 2004? And that 2004 dealio was purportedly BECAUSE AU had The Citadel on its schedule?

Here's Auburn's 2004 schedule:


2004 AU FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
RECORD: 13-0
9-4-04 LOUISIANA-MONROE WON 31-0
9-11-04 at Mississippi State WON 43-14
9-18-04 LOUISIANA STATE WON 10-9
9-25-04 THE CITADEL WON 33-3
10-2-04 at Tennessee WON 34-10
10-9-04 LOUISIANA TECH WON 52-7
10-16-04 ARKANSAS WON 38-20
10-23-04 KENTUCKY WON 42-10
10-30-04 at Mississippi WON 35-14
11-13-04 GEORGIA WON 24-6
11-20-04 at Alabama WON 21-13
12-4-04 SEC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
vs. Tennessee @Atlanta, GA WON 38-28
SUGAR BOWL @New Orleans, LA
1-3-05 vs. Virginia Tech WON 16-13

Here's Florida's 2008 Schedule:


8-30-08 HAWAI'I - W
9-6-08 MIAMI FL - W
9-20-08 at Tennessee - W
9-27-08 MISSISSIPPI - L
10-4-08 at Arkansas - W
10-11-08 LOUISIANA STATE - W
10-25-08 KENTUCKY - W
11-1-08 vs. Georgia (@ Jacksonville) - W
11-8-08 at Vanderbilt - W
11-15-08 SOUTH CAROLINA - W
11-22-08 THE CITADEL - W
11-29-08 at Florida State - W
12-06-08 SEC CCG v. Alabama - W

[oumartin]

cuz their Florida

[JLEW1818]

Different circumstances, Florida and Oklahoma are the best teams in the nation, or best 1 loss teams, don't matter which way you look at it. Auburn that year was not the best team, OU and usc were.

[Okla-homey]

call me slappy, but I want to play the wHorns in the MNC.:texan:

[oumartin]

well USC must have been the best by a large margin :D

[Okla-homey]

Different circumstances, Florida and Oklahoma are the best teams in the nation, or best 1 loss teams, don't matter which way you look at it. Auburn that year was not the best team, OU and usc were.

I'm not so sure my brutha. AU was pretty stout in '04. I think they would have given usucc a run for their money in the MNC. Cadillac was running amok and they were posting ridiculous rushing numbers every game.

Look at OUr 2004 schedule and compare it to the 2004 AU schedule above. Remember, the most points AU allowed their entire regular '04 season was 20, with two TD's or less the rest of their games.


Sep. 4 BOWLING GREEN W 40-24
Sep. 11 HOUSTON W 63-13
Sep. 18 OREGON W 31-7
Oct. 2 TEXAS TECH W 28-13
Oct. 9 Texas (at Dallas Cotton Bowl) W 12-0
Oct. 16 at Kansas State W 31-21
Oct. 23 KANSAS W 41-10
Oct. 30 at Oklahoma St. W 38-35
Nov. 6 at Texas A&M W 42-35
Nov. 13 NEBRASKA W 30-3
Nov. 20 at Baylor W 35-0
Dec. 4 Colorado^ W 42-3
Jan. 4 Southern Cal* L 19-55

^Big 12 Championship Game at Kansas City, MO.
*Orange Bowl at Miami, FL.

[My Opinion Matters]

The easiest answer is the BCS formula was different then than it is now. If the same BCS formula was used today we'd be playing Texas again.

[tommieharris91]

I'm not so sure my brutha. AU was pretty stout in '04. I think they would have given usucc a run for their money in the MNC. Cadillac was running amok and they were posting ridiculous rushing numbers every game.

Look at OUr 2004 schedule and compare it to the 2004 AU schedule above.

That Adrian Peterson guy was posting ridiculous rushing numbers each game too.

[GottaHavePride]

That year, prior to the championship, OU, USC, and Auburn were ALL undefeated AND conference champions. They were inventing new awards just so they could give them to OU layers, and USC had Leinart, Reggie Bush, LenDale White, AND Dwayne Jarrett.

The computers just thought USC and OU were better.

This year the only undefeated is Utah, but the computers think OU, FL, and Texas are the top three and have to make a choice there. The difference is that this year, only two of the three won their conference and Florida happens to be one of the two.

[Okla-homey]

That year, prior to the championship, OU, USC, and Auburn were ALL undefeated AND conference champions. They were inventing new awards just so they could give them to OU layers, and USC had Leinart, Reggie Bush, LenDale White, AND Dwayne Jarrett.

The computers just thought USC and OU were better.

This year the only undefeated is Utah, but the computers think OU, FL, and Texas are the top three and have to make a choice there. The difference is that this year, only two of the three won their conference and Florida happens to be one of the two.

Granted, OU and AU had won their CCG's. Of course, usucc plays in what passes for a BCS conference and didn't have to play a CCG game. All this leads me to the inevitable conclusion...WE NEED A DAMN 16 TEAM PLAY-OFF DAMMIT!:D

[JLEW1818]

I know but usc and OU were 1and 2 from the beginning. Auburn was not in top ten. That's why preseason rankings matter sometimes

[BoulderSooner79]

We get to play the horns every year - I say bring on the Gators. I was a student in '78 and the re-match with the Huskers was a big letdown from my point of view. Of course, it wasn't for any MNC and that was the biggest letdown, but re-matches suck. Besides, if we can win against UF, next years RRR will be awesome.

[soonerboomer93]

Why does a one loss, SEC champ Florida team who played The Citadel get to the MNC in 2008 while a 12-0 SEC champ Auburn team who played The Citadel was denied the MNC game in 2004? And that 2004 dealio was purportedly BECAUSE AU had The Citadel on its schedule?

Here's Auburn's 2004 schedule:



Here's Florida's 2008 Schedule:

we know you're a lawyer and your daughter is an awwwbarn alumn

but it's okay to let the **** go, I mean, who did you want to get left out in 2k4?

[OULenexaman]

I couldn't tell ya......slappy..

[Okla-homey]

we know you're a lawyer and your daughter is an awwwbarn alumn

but it's okay to let the **** go, I mean, who did you want to get left out in 2k4?

Completely irrespective of where my kid went to college, I was delighted to have OU play in the '04 championship game.

In fact, I had the vandalized Montgomery AL home and stolen OU flags to prove it at the time. Its an honest question because I remember I, and everyone else, were telling the AU folks the reason they didn't deserve a shot at the MNC was because they played a D-IAA team. That was, as I recall, the conventional wisdom across the fruited plain that year.

Just trying to figure out what has changed in four years.

[OU86]

Texas sucks.

[SoonerAtKU]

well OU played one this year...so i guess you're arguing that it should be Texas and USC? Alabama?

What's your point?