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Eddie Money
3/30/2004, 11:57 AM
I just wanted to say that. Thanks. Now you can tell me what ****ty band you like.

Czar Soonerov
3/30/2004, 12:00 PM
GNR

Herr Scholz
3/30/2004, 12:01 PM
You've got to consider Aerosmith for longevity alone.

Sooner51
3/30/2004, 12:04 PM
Creedence Clearwater Revival

Howzit
3/30/2004, 12:07 PM
Better than The Monkees? I think not, sir.

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 12:08 PM
Eddie,

Two words. Grand Funk. Also, Crack Kills.

OUthunder
3/30/2004, 12:09 PM
Motley Crue ...go ahead ....hammer away.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/30/2004, 12:09 PM
Eddie Vedder is over rated. WAY over rated.

Enrico Palazo
3/30/2004, 12:10 PM
Motley Crue ...go ahead ....hammer away. i gave you a chance, but i'm afraid you're going to have to go back onto the ignore list.

motley crue? ack!

SoonerV
3/30/2004, 12:12 PM
Tool

KaiserSooner
3/30/2004, 12:14 PM
I have to say it. Nirvana. It's bound to show up on these threads anyway.

Rhino
3/30/2004, 12:15 PM
The Lone Rangers.

Boarder
3/30/2004, 12:16 PM
The Doors

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 12:17 PM
Rhino,

What, no Pixies?

And anything "indie" by default cannot even be mentioned in the same breath or sentence with "best band."

Howzit
3/30/2004, 12:20 PM
Give me the Allman Brothers.

Eddie Money
3/30/2004, 12:21 PM
Rhino,

What, no Pixies?

And anything "indie" by default cannot even be mentioned in the same breath or sentence with "best band."


Dean, you can't throw Pearl Jam in with indie anything. I will go with GNR and Doors, but Aerosmith - ugh.. They go right up there with your I been working on the Railroad Theme Song in my book, Scholz.

Stoop Dawg
3/30/2004, 12:21 PM
[Dean annoyance on] U2 [Dean annoyance off]

picasso
3/30/2004, 12:22 PM
Aerosmith? Sure, if you like top 40 power balads.

Boarder
3/30/2004, 12:24 PM
You're just lucky Rush is Canadian, because the debate would be ovAr.

GDC
3/30/2004, 12:25 PM
Cheap Trick

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 12:27 PM
Eddie,

I didn't throw Pearl Jam in with the indie thing.

Stoop,

Last time I checked, U2 was from somewhere in the UK (Ireland, Scotland, ****tybandland?).

Howzit,

How could I forget about the Allman Bros? Geez Louise.

Herr Scholz
3/30/2004, 12:28 PM
Aerosmith still puts on a great show and they're almost 60.

Stoop Dawg
3/30/2004, 12:29 PM
Last time I checked, U2 was from somewhere in the UK (Ireland, Scotland, ****tybandland?).

Reading comprehension is hard.

picasso
3/30/2004, 12:29 PM
I recall seeing Vedder in Rolling Stoned last year sporting a mowhawk. He was quoted as saying he would wear said hairdo until there was peace on earth.
I wrote the ragazine and told them he'd better get used to the style.

Idoit.

KaiserSooner
3/30/2004, 12:29 PM
Rolling Stones; better show than Aerosmith? Or no.

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 12:30 PM
Herr,

Lawrence Welk still puts on a great show too. And he's dead.

picasso
3/30/2004, 12:30 PM
Aerosmith still puts on a great show and they're almost 60.

They ARE 60, which means they should have stopped 30 years ago.

GDC
3/30/2004, 12:31 PM
Van Halen
Eagles
Metallica
Marshall Tucker Band
Honeymoon Suite

OUthunder
3/30/2004, 12:32 PM
Van Halen
Eagles
Metallica
Marshall Tucker Band
Honeymoon Suite

Honeymoon Suite ...heh

I like em though.

Sooner51
3/30/2004, 12:32 PM
http://www.klangundkleid.ch/img/memorabilia/elvispresley/fifties-elvis_laughing.jpg
Eddie Vedder, heh

Rhino
3/30/2004, 12:34 PM
The Pixies were damn good, but they weren't the greatest American band.

The Lone Rangers had a pool cleaner on drums. They were the best American band.

TopDawg
3/30/2004, 12:35 PM
Bloodhound Gang

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 12:52 PM
The Lone Rangers had a pool cleaner on drums. They were the best American band.

Oh, so now you've gotta have a manual laborer on the skins to be the best American band? Who knew?

In that case, I wanna nominate the Lexington Cons (prison band). The drummer used to do cement work before he got popped for selling meth. They rawk.

GDC
3/30/2004, 12:53 PM
other possibilities:

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Flaming Lips
The Stooges
MC5
Doobie Brothers
Nirvana
Boston

jk the sooner fan
3/30/2004, 12:56 PM
STP
Foo Fighters

i like em both...ALOT

Bourbon St Sooner
3/30/2004, 01:58 PM
Alice in Chains was the best band to come out of the Seattle movement...and it's not even close.

Geekboy
3/30/2004, 02:03 PM
I just wanted to say that. Thanks. Now you can tell me what ****ty band you like.

It was The Jimi Hendrix Experience. End of argument, even though he had two Brits as backup.

mrowl
3/30/2004, 02:04 PM
STP is way above Pearl Jam...

Ike
3/30/2004, 02:08 PM
http://store.theonion.com/cgi-bin/store/EDCstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=ON1016WHLG

Rhino
3/30/2004, 02:08 PM
Alice in Chains was the best band to come out of the Seattle movement...and it's not even close. Are you talking about Godsmack?

Eddie Money
3/30/2004, 02:10 PM
It is pretty amazing what came out of Seattle in the 90s.

I consider Jimi Hendrix to be a solo act, same with Elvis.

yermom
3/30/2004, 03:00 PM
Pearl Jam is one of my favorite bands, but i would have a hard time saying they were the best American bands, i think GNR is closer to that

I have to give props to Aerosmith and KISS, i mean they laid down a lot of the ground work for everything else, i think

i don't really even like to listen to them much...

now, if we weren't limited to this continent it's a tough choice between the Beatles and Zeppelin

oh and Rush is technically "American" right? (i'm still not that impressed with them)

Rhino
3/30/2004, 03:12 PM
For the record, the answer is Guns N Roses.

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 03:16 PM
Hint to everyone:

Just because you weren't born until 1985 doesn't mean that American bands didn't get invented before that.

yermom
3/30/2004, 03:22 PM
ok, so CCR, Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles should all be in there somewhere as well

i'm too young to have been around while CCR was around, but i caught the tail end of the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac as a kid

Howzit
3/30/2004, 03:22 PM
Just because you weren't born until 1985 doesn't mean that American bands didn't get invented before that.

Yeah, it means nothing good has been written since that.

Rhino
3/30/2004, 03:27 PM
When I say Guns N Roses, I mean the real band.

Not the paranoid Raider-jersey, bucket of chicken one.

soonerboomer93
3/30/2004, 03:42 PM
what about Primus?

best bassist ever, with RHH second

and STP is okay, but they don't have a single song equal to anything off of Ten

Eddie Money
3/30/2004, 03:52 PM
I forgot about Fleetwood Mac, but they have 2 limeys. They are great. I would rather get hot bacon grease thrown in my face than listen to The Eagles.

12
3/30/2004, 04:30 PM
Not one mention of Roy Clark. :(

XingTheRubicon
3/30/2004, 04:34 PM
Dean, how on earth could you not like U2.

Sunday Bloody Sunday, written describing events in the
early 70's in which innocents were bombed.


and one of the best songs ever, Pride................

early morning, April 4, shot rings out in the Memphis
sky, free at last.......they took your life but they could
not take your Pride.......In the name of love, one man
in the name of love. (these lyrics about Martin Luther
King and later in the song the lyrics about Jesus are
some of the most meaningful in music's modern era.

Eddie Money
3/30/2004, 04:37 PM
I am surprised no one mentioned R.E.M.

KC//CRIMSON
3/30/2004, 04:39 PM
Eddie Vedder by Local H

Quarters on the eyes
Rejected Sacrifice
Cauterized at best
Failing your litmus test
I know it's dumb to say
But turnabout's fair play
Always knew that you
Were suffering a fool


You go ahead - as good as dead


Okay - I understand
But I don't want to be your friend
I don't need another friend
I've got too many friends
If I was Eddie Vedder
Would you like me any better?
That's it - I quit - I don't give a ****


You go ahead - as good as dead
Coming to a head
You're as good as dead

GDC
3/30/2004, 04:39 PM
or the Byrds or Beach Boys

Bourbon St Sooner
3/30/2004, 04:40 PM
In deference to the sherrif:

CCR
Allman Bros.
Grateful Dead
The Doors
GT and the Destroyers
SRV and Double Trouble

Sooner51
3/30/2004, 04:42 PM
originally posted by soonerboomer93
best bassist ever, with RHH second

Jimbo is the man.

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 04:45 PM
xing,

If it's lyrics you need listen to poetry or Bob Dylan. I also can't get into Ireland's political struggles. Bunch of lunatics.

To me it's all about the music. The actual musical talent with one's instrument of choice, and the style/energy one plays said instrument with.

Some one-named geek strumming chords on a guitar while bono screams "in the name of love" in a Tom Waits on estrogen voice just doesn't trip my trigger. Sorry.



best bassist ever, with RHH second

Uh sorry, but John Entwhistle (The Who), Geddy Lee (Rush), and Mel Whatshisname (Grand Funk) are at least 3 bassists I can think of who would give him a run for his money.

KC//CRIMSON
3/30/2004, 04:49 PM
John Entwhistle is dead....

GDC
3/30/2004, 04:52 PM
Dream Theater?

Howzit
3/30/2004, 04:55 PM
Best bassist I have heard in a loooong time is Danyel Morgan with Robert Randolph & the Family Band.

Sooner51
3/30/2004, 04:57 PM
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best bassist ever, with RHH second
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Uh sorry, but John Entwhistle (The Who), Geddy Lee (Rush), and Mel Whatshisname (Grand Funk) are at least 3 bassists I can think of who would give him a run for his money.

But did any of these bassists have a bass like this?
http://www.club101.com/photos-reverend/reverend-05.jpg

Howzit
3/30/2004, 04:58 PM
No, nor did they hump their basses. ;)

Is that guy gancing with his instrument?

GDC
3/30/2004, 05:00 PM
Greatest rock bass players
of all times

TM, ®, Copyright © 1999 Piero Scaruffi


Les Claypool (Primus)
Jack Bruce (Cream)
Jah Wobble (Public Image Ltd)
Tony Levin (King Crimson)
Mark Sandman (Morphine)
Melvin Gibbs (Rollins Band, Arto Lindsay)
Michael "Flea" Balzary (Red Hot Chili Peppers) Tony Maimone (Pere Ubu)
Bill Laswell
Billy Sheehan (Mr Big)
Chris Hillman (Byrds)
Dave Pajo (Slint, For Carnation, Tortoise, Aerial M)
Andrew Weiss (Gone)
Juliana Hatfield (Blake Babies)
Ethan Buckler (Slint)
Johnny Temple (Girls Against Boys)
Fred Erskine (June Of 44)
Fred Chalenor (Caveman Shoestore, Tone Dogs)
Doug McCombs (Eleventh Dream Day, Tortoise)
Mike Watt (Minutemen)
Doug Wimbish (Tackhead)
David Sims (Scratch Acid, Rapeman, Jesus Lizard)
Gabriel Katz (Blind Idiot God)
Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads)
Stephen Immerwahr (Codeine)
John Curley (Afghan Whigs)
Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth)
Jeff Ament (Pearl Jam)
Sasha Frere-Jones (Ui)
Vern Rumsey (Unwound)
Phil Lesh (Grateful Dead)
Geddy Lee (Rush) Brian Richie (Violent Femmes)
Ron Sakowski (Necros, Laughing Hyenas)
Marc Sloan (Ritual Tension)
Peter Conway (Rifle Sport)
Cliff Burton (Metallica)
Sting (Police)
Chris Novoselic (Nirvana)
Dave Allen (Gang Of Four)
Kim Deal (Pixies)
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Pat Morris (Don Caballero)
Bridget Cross (Unrest)
Brian Wilson (Beach Boys)
Joyce Raskin (Scarce)
John Entwistle (Who)
Kendra Smith (Dream Syndicate)
Simon Raymonde (Cocteau Twins)
Reggie "Fieldy" Arvizu (Korn)
Larry Boothroyd (Hellworms)
Chris Squire (Yes)
Mick Karn (Japan)
Matt Freeman (Rancid)
Paul McCartney (Beatles)
Jennifer Finch (L7)
Steven Severin (Siouxsee)
Lemmy (Motorhead)
Tara Jean O'Neil (Rodan)
Mike Mills (REM)
Kev Hopper (Stump)

Jason White's Third Knee
3/30/2004, 05:01 PM
John Entwhistle is dead....
He was my favorite bassist. He could do it all. Funk slap, rip scales, finger tapping, pop harmonics, all of that stuff and he only did it during solos on tour. He knew when to shut up.

BTW, Stu Hamm is probably better than anyone named yet.

KC//CRIMSON
3/30/2004, 05:09 PM
Greatest rock bass players
of all times

TM, ®, Copyright © 1999 Piero Scaruffi


Les Claypool (Primus)
Jack Bruce (Cream)
Jah Wobble (Public Image Ltd)
Tony Levin (King Crimson)
Mark Sandman (Morphine)
Melvin Gibbs (Rollins Band, Arto Lindsay)
Michael "Flea" Balzary (Red Hot Chili Peppers) Tony Maimone (Pere Ubu)
Bill Laswell
Billy Sheehan (Mr Big)
Chris Hillman (Byrds)
Dave Pajo (Slint, For Carnation, Tortoise, Aerial M)
Andrew Weiss (Gone)
Juliana Hatfield (Blake Babies)
Ethan Buckler (Slint)
Johnny Temple (Girls Against Boys)
Fred Erskine (June Of 44)
Fred Chalenor (Caveman Shoestore, Tone Dogs)
Doug McCombs (Eleventh Dream Day, Tortoise)
Mike Watt (Minutemen)
Doug Wimbish (Tackhead)
David Sims (Scratch Acid, Rapeman, Jesus Lizard)
Gabriel Katz (Blind Idiot God)
Tina Weymouth (Talking Heads)
Stephen Immerwahr (Codeine)
John Curley (Afghan Whigs)
Kim Gordon (Sonic Youth)
Jeff Ament (Pearl Jam)
Sasha Frere-Jones (Ui)
Vern Rumsey (Unwound)
Phil Lesh (Grateful Dead)
Geddy Lee (Rush) Brian Richie (Violent Femmes)
Ron Sakowski (Necros, Laughing Hyenas)
Marc Sloan (Ritual Tension)
Peter Conway (Rifle Sport)
Cliff Burton (Metallica)
Sting (Police)
Chris Novoselic (Nirvana)
Dave Allen (Gang Of Four)
Kim Deal (Pixies)
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Pat Morris (Don Caballero)
Bridget Cross (Unrest)
Brian Wilson (Beach Boys)
Joyce Raskin (Scarce)
John Entwistle (Who)
Kendra Smith (Dream Syndicate)
Simon Raymonde (Cocteau Twins)
Reggie "Fieldy" Arvizu (Korn)
Larry Boothroyd (Hellworms)
Chris Squire (Yes)
Mick Karn (Japan)
Matt Freeman (Rancid)
Paul McCartney (Beatles)
Jennifer Finch (L7)
Steven Severin (Siouxsee)
Lemmy (Motorhead)
Tara Jean O'Neil (Rodan)
Mike Mills (REM)
Kev Hopper (Stump)

this guy was better than 98% of that list....IMHO

http://www.jacopastorius.com/

C&CDean
3/30/2004, 05:11 PM
I'm just really hoping that the list isn't in order.

Frozen Sooner
3/30/2004, 05:14 PM
Les Claypool is hard to beat as bassists go, I imagine.

However, the dude's name is Christ Novoselic. Jeez. No pun intended. It's pronounced just like the name Chris with a t at the end.

Rhino
3/30/2004, 05:16 PM
Bootsy Collins' omission from that list is blasphemy.

Frozen Sooner
3/30/2004, 05:16 PM
This is true.

And flood control sucks.

Rhino
3/30/2004, 05:17 PM
Les Claypool is hard to beat as bassists go, I imagine.

However, the dude's name is Christ Novoselic. Jeez. No pun intended. It's pronounced just like the name Chris with a t at the end. Les Claypool = numba.one. Sit down, folks.


Actually, his name is Krist Novoselic. And he belongs nowhere near that list.

Frozen Sooner
3/30/2004, 05:18 PM
I sit corrected. And I somewhat agree.

KC//CRIMSON
3/30/2004, 05:21 PM
Les Claypool
Billy Sheehan
Geddy Lee

and then there's everybody else......that's alive anyway :D

Jason White's Third Knee
3/30/2004, 05:41 PM
Les Claypool
Billy Sheehan
Geddy Lee

and then there's everybody else......that's alive anyway :D
You must not know who Stu Hamm is! Check him out. I'll have to check out Claypool. Never heard of him.

SoonerProphet
3/30/2004, 05:41 PM
But did any of these bassists have a bass like this?
http://www.club101.com/photos-reverend/reverend-05.jpg

J-I-M-B-O RAWKS!!!!!

An yes, hands down, far and way, cream of the crop bass players is Claypool. His Frog Brigade cover of Animals is mind blowing. Mitch Mitchell from the Experience wasn't bad. Glad to see Melvin from the Rollin's Band on the list as well as Mark Sandman, a master of the three string.

As for American bands, I'd put Morphine and Sandman on that list against anyone or Primus. I know Phish is love/hate, but Trey can play the guitar pretty well. Jane's, Harper and the Innocent Criminals, Tool, Nirvana, and I am kinda digging Audioslave.

Country and Roots music would have to be Merle, Flatt and Scruggs, Bill Monroe, The Kentucky Colonels, Ralph Stanley and Mac Wiseman.

KC//CRIMSON
3/30/2004, 05:47 PM
You must not know who Stu Hamm is! Check him out. I'll have to check out Claypool. Never heard of him.

I know Hamm's playing very well. He's good no doubt. I still think Claypool is the man though :D

VeeJay
3/30/2004, 10:04 PM
Well...

*huff*
*huff*

Nobody is stickin' up for Steve Miller?? WTF??

mrowl is right - STP is a cut above Vedder and the mohawk. Even considering the fact that Scott Weiland has made a second career of reporting to and escaping from halfway houses.

There's not a bad STP album in my collection.

soonerboomer93
3/30/2004, 10:53 PM
I've heard plenty of bad STP

Foo is greatness

so is Janes Addiction

2Dogs
3/30/2004, 11:15 PM
Alice in Chains was the best band to come out of the Seattle movement...and it's not even close.

F'n A

pearl jam isn't close

yermom
3/30/2004, 11:41 PM
F'n A?

don't think i've heard of them

GeneralCartmanLee
3/30/2004, 11:56 PM
I just wanted to say that. Thanks. Now you can tell me what ****ty band you like.After TEN they went down hill......Black is by far the PJ song ever.


Hey...oooh...
Sheets of empty canvas, untouched sheets of clay
Her lace spread out before me, as her body once did
All five horizons revolved around her soul
As the earth to the sun
Now the air I tasted and breathed has taken a turn
Ooh, and all I taught her was everything
Ooh, I know she gave me all that she wore
And now my bitter hands chafe beneath the clouds
Of what was everything?
Oh, the pictures have all been washed in black, tattooed everything...

I take a walk outside
I'm surrounded by some kids at play
I can feel their laughter, so why do I sear
Oh, and twisted thoughts that spin round my head
I'm spinning, oh, I'm spinning
How quick the sun can, drop away
And now my bitter hands cradle broken glass
Of what was everything?
All the pictures have all been washed in black, tattooed everything...
All the love gone bad turned my world to black
Tattooed all I see, all that I am, all I'll ever be...yeah...

Uh huh...uh huh...ooh...
I know someday you'll have a beautiful life, I know you'll be a star
In somebody else's sky, but why
Why, why can't it be, why can't it be mine

Aerosmith is probably the best American band there is.....hands down!

GeneralCartmanLee
3/30/2004, 11:59 PM
Rolling Stones; better show than Aerosmith? Or no.
I saw them both the last time they came to OKC....Aerosmith much better!!

PDXsooner
3/31/2004, 12:53 AM
i'll agree with pearl jam. i saw them outdoor at seattle center in the summer of '97 and it was unbelievable.

someone mentioned alice in chains. lane staley was high on something and started a fight with a buddy of mine a few years back in front of a convenience store in seattle. the guy was a complete idiot. hell of a singer, though. of course this was before he o.d.'d and killed himself.

who else came out of seattle worth mentioning?

pearl jam
alice in chains
nirvana
soundgarden
stone temple pilots

Soonerchaz
3/31/2004, 02:13 AM
I'd agree with The Byrds...and add...

Neil Young and Crazy Horse
The Band
Uncle Tupelo
Buddy Holly and the Crickets

and my favoritie band that no one ever heard of...

The Texas Instruments

Frozen Sooner
3/31/2004, 03:24 AM
Mudhoney!

Frozen Sooner
3/31/2004, 03:25 AM
Screaming Trees!

GDC
3/31/2004, 09:00 AM
of course no ones mentioned ZZ Top

VeeJay
3/31/2004, 09:12 PM
I'd agree with The Byrds...and add...

Neil Young and Crazy Horse
The Band
Uncle Tupelo
Buddy Holly and the Crickets

and my favoritie band that no one ever heard of...

The Texas Instruments


Uncle Tupelo?

Someone else has heard of Uncle Tupelo?

I bought their CD in '91 or '92 - the one with "Factory Belt" on it, not knowing anything about the band.

Da-yum.

OUDL-X
3/31/2004, 09:41 PM
I think you have to throw the Dave Matthews Band in there. They are one of the most talented group of musicians around right now.

Catch 22
3/31/2004, 10:00 PM
Not to call people names, but to say STP is a better band than Pearl Jam is absolutely insane. Don't get caught up just because Eddie is an activist. If you don't agree with what he says, it doesn't mean his music is bad. Best two concerts I've ever been to was Pearl Jam. Not even close. Nothing has been close. Top Five live band of ALL TIME, I say.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:08 PM
I've heard plenty of bad STP

Foo is greatness

so is Janes Addiction
Jane's Addiction? You Gotta be kidding. That dude cannot sing. His songs generally have 2 notes in them anyway. Foo is good. STP has the goods on PJ without a doubt.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:12 PM
I know Hamm's playing very well. He's good no doubt. I still think Claypool is the man though :D
Ok, sorry, Claypool is the Primus dude. Again, I can't understand you people. Stu is a virtuoso type. He is a freak. He is easily in Sheehan's catagory and above Claypool. Claypool is greatness. He has killer super fast funk chops. I totally agree, but to put him above the technical wizardry of a freak like Hamm is just weird.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:14 PM
I think you have to throw the Dave Matthews Band in there. They are one of the most talented group of musicians around right now.
With one exception. Dave Mathews......

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:18 PM
Not to call people names, but to say STP is a better band than Pearl Jam is absolutely insane. Don't get caught up just because Eddie is an activist. If you don't agree with what he says, it doesn't mean his music is bad. Best two concerts I've ever been to was Pearl Jam. Not even close. Nothing has been close. Top Five live band of ALL TIME, I say.
Eddie Vedder needs lessons and the rest of the band needs to practice. If you like the depressing style of the nineties, I can't dissuade you. The nineties proves that you can dress like crap, suck at your instrument, write tunes three chord tunes that people before you would avoid out of embarrassment, and whine in to the microphone about your lousy life with all of your money and rule the music world. I hated it.

soonerboomer93
3/31/2004, 10:23 PM
fine, if y'all are going to get into the whole seattle discussion then why not bring it up

3 words
learn them, know them, understand where it all started

Mother Love Bone

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:25 PM
Was MBL before Alice in Chains? I always throw credit to those boys. That guy did the wacky vocal thing before the rest of the popular bands.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:26 PM
I mean MLB

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 10:27 PM
Wait. Wasn't STP from San Diego or something?

soonerboomer93
3/31/2004, 10:32 PM
MLB came out before any of the others, AIC.

They only have 1 album, as their lead singer od'd on heroin.

STP is a cali group, but they're nto that good, period.

if you want a Cali group, how about Sublime, they were a heck of alot better then STP.

Catch 22
3/31/2004, 10:33 PM
Eddie Vedder needs lessons and the rest of the band needs to practice. If you like the depressing style of the nineties, I can't dissuade you. The nineties proves that you can dress like crap, suck at your instrument, write tunes three chord tunes that people before you would avoid out of embarrassment, and whine in to the microphone about your lousy life with all of your money and rule the music world. I hated it.

Without being child-like,What does it matter what they wear, what they are activists' for? Their music is good and their lyrics are great, and they talk about real stuff and not make believe. But this forum is not the place to argue this kind of stuff because no one cares what we think. As with any music you have to relate to it to believe it is the greatest, and Pearl Jam is. I just hope that you're not waiting on doper to get out of the pen, so that they can come up with some new tunes. If not, you're stuck with the 90's copy band of PJ. Enjoy! :D

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 11:04 PM
MLB came out before any of the others, AIC.

They only have 1 album, as their lead singer od'd on heroin.

STP is a cali group, but they're nto that good, period.

if you want a Cali group, how about Sublime, they were a heck of alot better then STP.
Lot's of cal bands out there. Someone through STP in to the Seattle bands. I still appreciate them mor than most bands. I think that they are good players and the writing is good. Production and tones are there. That's all. Subbbbbblime was decent. Reminded me of Fishbone when they did ska.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 11:14 PM
Without being child-like,What does it matter what they wear, what they are activists' for? Their music is good and their lyrics are great, and they talk about real stuff and not make believe. But this forum is not the place to argue this kind of stuff because no one cares what we think. As with any music you have to relate to it to believe it is the greatest, and Pearl Jam is. I just hope that you're not waiting on doper to get out of the pen, so that they can come up with some new tunes. If not, you're stuck with the 90's copy band of PJ. Enjoy! :D
They sounded a lot like Pj for a couple of albums, but honestly, I liked them a lot better. I honestly can't understand the why people like PJ. I REALLY think that Eddie Vedder is an average singer at BEST. I think that his writing is empathetic, but depressing. The melodies of their tunes aren't particulrly memorable to me. They don't elicite any other ressponse than yucch. I've played guitar for 20 years, sung even longer, played in bands, written jingles and just a ton of stuff. I don't like hearing musicians that I think are lousy. I don't think that Eddie ever put effort in to learning how to sing. I don't think the guitar players are better than average. If you want to hear kick *** musicians pick up an album called Spilt Milk by the Jellyfish. They are unreal. Real craftsmanship. Not junk. Excellent players, writing etc. I'll never understand why they weren't popular and PJ was. I guess I want to see and hear effort. That's why I don't like what PJ wore. Is that a reasonable answer for you?

Catch 22
3/31/2004, 11:29 PM
Your opinions can be what you want them to be. Most people that don't like PJ, hold them to a higher standard than everyone else is held to, then they pull out an obscure band that wasn't famous and say they were the best. I can't argue that claim because jellyfish never had to make albums under the scrutiny of the world.

Enrico Palazo
3/31/2004, 11:41 PM
if you want a Cali group, how about Sublime, they were a heck of alot better then STP. calm down, people. let's not say stuff that doesn't make any sense like sublime is better than stp. that's just foolish talk.

pearl jam has and always will be a band of underachievers, but for their ties to mookie blaylock i cannot say they sucked.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 11:42 PM
Your opinions can be what you want them to be. Most people that don't like PJ, hold them to a higher standard than everyone else is held to, then they pull out an obscure band that wasn't famous and say they were the best. I can't argue that claim because jellyfish never had to make albums under the scrutiny of the world.
Wow, for a dude that starts a post "with out being childlike"... I am not holding them to a higher standard than anyone. I simply think that they are weak players. I don't like them. You are probably younger than me and like to hop around in the mosh pits, etc. I listen to the music and lyrics and if my toe starts tapping, great! I was trying to give you a cool band to check out, but since you are more than satified with the caterwalling of the great Eddie Vedder, you need not lend your ear. Jellyfish wrote what I think is one of the best albums ever. It's stunning in the arrangements, like Queen. It has writing similar to Pet Sounds, musicianship of Toto, superb production. Unfortunately, they didn't fit the ultra depressing angst ridden motif of the day. Hey, bands from my day made it big with ****ty players. Look at poison and Motley Crue. Not good players(Tommy Lee excluded). I don't know what to tell you. They don't do anything special. They never did anything for me musically or otherwise.

soonerboomer93
3/31/2004, 11:43 PM
Sublime was far more musically creative then STP could ever hope to be

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 11:44 PM
calm down, people. let's not say stuff that doesn't make any sense like sublime is better than stp. that's just foolish talk.

pearl jam has and always will be a band of underachievers, but for their ties to mookie blaylock i cannot say they sucked.
They have no ties to Mookie. They jes borrowed his name.

And I can't think of many crap musicians that have over acheived more than these jokers.

Jason White's Third Knee
3/31/2004, 11:49 PM
Sublime was far more musically creative then STP could ever hope to be

Ok. Now I am thinking that you are just foolish. Sublime was a ska band. Nothing terribly creative about that. It's a style. They wrote some catchy tunes. Ska is what it is. it is very limited. Reggea is the same way. It's a small box. STP has written stuff all over the page. Hell, I am not even that big of a fan, but even I can see that! Days of the Week. Interstate Love Song. Lady Picture Show. That's all pretty creative. Nifty riffs, nice melodies. Do you actually listen to this stuff or.... wait... Are you a computer program? That would explain everything.

Blue
3/31/2004, 11:54 PM
STP rocks your face off. Sublime and Janes Addiction rock nipples off. JWTK, you have lost your credibility.

Blue
3/31/2004, 11:55 PM
Blind Melon will rock your freakin' knee off.

GeneralCartmanLee
3/31/2004, 11:59 PM
Best New Band = Audioslave

Jason White's Third Knee
4/1/2004, 12:02 AM
Blind Melon will rock your freakin' knee off.
Blind Melon sounds like the Monkees, so you can take your credibility and put it in your pipe and then you can take it and go ahea dand just smoke it and stuff.

Sublime is fine, but not wildly creative as someone was trying to point out. Jane's Addiction... aaacchhh.... man.... the had like 2 tunes that were tolerable. The guy is a totally bad singer. Not even good. Not even kinda good. Hell the one ok tune that they had was all the bass player that made the tune go. Any singer that farted close to a groove with that bass line would have had a hit.

Jason White's Third Knee
4/1/2004, 12:03 AM
Best New Band = Audioslave
Holy crap. Now I know what Custer felt like.

Blue
4/1/2004, 12:15 AM
Blind Melon sounds like the Monkees, so you can take your credibility and put it in your pipe and then you can take it and go ahea dand just smoke it and stuff.

Sublime is fine, but not wildly creative as someone was trying to point out. Jane's Addiction... aaacchhh.... man.... the had like 2 tunes that were tolerable. The guy is a totally bad singer. Not even good. Not even kinda good. Hell the one ok tune that they had was all the bass player that made the tune go. Any singer that farted close to a groove with that bass line would have had a hit.

1. Blind Melon is chill-central(No, I've never used that phrase in my life)

2. Credibility- Man! That's some good ****!

3. JA- Comin' Down The Mountain, Jane Says, Been Caught Stealin', etc...
He doesnt have to sound like everybody else. That's what makes it rock n' roll and everybodys choice is not necessarily wrong.

Jason White's Third Knee
4/1/2004, 12:23 AM
1. Blind Melon is chill-central(No, I've never used that phrase in my life)

2. Credibility- Man! That's some good ****!

3. JA- Comin' Down The Mountain, Jane Says, Been Caught Stealin', etc...
He doesnt have to sound like everybody else. That's what makes it rock n' roll and everybodys choice is not necessarily wrong.
1. I don't smoke weed.
2. You ain't got it.
3. The 2 tolerable tunes.

Blue
4/1/2004, 12:32 AM
1. I don't smoke weed.
2. You ain't got it.
3. The 2 tolerable tunes.

1. I don't care
2. Um, ok
3. You're wrong
4. It's kinda sad when somebody thinks they're the authority on music. What do you know?

No offense "Unoriginal Ripoff of Beano's screen name." You're just wrong here.

Jason White's Third Knee
4/1/2004, 12:38 AM
1. I don't care
2. Um, ok
3. You're wrong
4. It's kinda sad when somebody thinks they're the authority on music. What do you know?

No offense "Unoriginal Ripoff of Beano's screen name." You're just wrong here.
1&2. We agree, I guess.
3. Ok, they aren't even tolerable.
4. I know what I like and I have studied a lot. I know who is a skilled player and who isn't. you are probably good at something and have more insight than I do, but hell, people buy the **** out of Picasso's paintings and I don't get that either.

I ripped off Beano? News to me.

Blue
4/1/2004, 12:43 AM
:D

Not the response I was expecting, but ok.

When is your single coming out A.J.?

Jason White's Third Knee
4/1/2004, 12:56 AM
:D

Not the response I was expecting, but ok.

When is your single coming out A.J.?
Ok, I think I need to go beddy bye. I don't understand what you mean.

Are you asking if I am putting out a single? I used to write music, but family life and business takes up too much time. I don't know who A J is.

See ya Blue.

GottaHavePride
4/1/2004, 12:59 AM
A quote from a Russian exchange student:

"Metallica is greatest band of all time. If Metallica met Dave Matthews, Metallica would make Dave Matthews f*** his face."

As you can see, he hadn't quite mastered the language at that point.

soonerboomer93
4/1/2004, 01:04 AM
Beastie Boys

Soonerchaz
4/1/2004, 01:44 AM
Uncle Tupelo?

Someone else has heard of Uncle Tupelo?

I bought their CD in '91 or '92 - the one with "Factory Belt" on it, not knowing anything about the band.

Da-yum.

Sweet...big Uncle Tupelo fan here. If you like that first record (No Depression)...check out a Denton, TX band called Slobberbone. Specifically the record "Everything You Thought Was Right Was Wrong Today". Easily one of my favorite releases in the last 5 years. Think Replacements with a few banjos thrown in.

Speaking of great American bands...The Replacements.

Eddie Money
4/1/2004, 07:52 AM
You know another reason to like Pearl Jam? They could charge whatever they wanted and sell out any areana in the country - still - , yet you can get front row seats for $40 bucks, and they make every effort to thwart scalpers. Plus they are great to their fans - the last two tours they made bootleg copies available on CD for 10 bucks so fans wouldn't have to get ripped off anymore.

Rhino
4/1/2004, 11:13 AM
Best New Band = Audioslave Worst New Band Name = Audioslave

GDC
6/12/2006, 07:14 PM
When they've been cranking it out for 30+ years like Cheap Trick, they might get some consideration.

http://www.livedaily.com/reviews/Album_Review_Cheap_Trick_Rockford_Big3_Records-10201.html?t=1

dolemitesooner
6/12/2006, 07:16 PM
Radiohead

dolemitesooner
6/12/2006, 07:17 PM
ohh wait there not american...ok the beetles

dolemitesooner
6/12/2006, 07:17 PM
ohh **** ok you got me Ledzepplin......Ok **** this **** america sucks

bri
6/12/2006, 07:18 PM
This thread is long, and most of you are idiots, so I'm just gonna skip to the end and post.

Old 97's. They're enjoyable, cover a wide range of genres, and you can UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BLUE F*CK THEY'RE SAYING.

Eddie Vedder...gah. What a f*ckstain.

soonerspiff
6/12/2006, 08:01 PM
Best American band from nowadays, IMO, is Wilco... the others don't really come close to me.

dolemitesooner
6/12/2006, 08:20 PM
Best American band from nowadays, IMO, is Wilco... the others don't really come close to me.
that whiny peice of **** and his band are no talent *** hats? Why do people like this band ...You can like the but the band plays nothing amazing..Its simple to cord **** with good lyrics by some whiny guy

birddog
6/12/2006, 08:21 PM
you all need to listen to the self-titled album by queens of the stone age. UN-REAL. also songs for the deaf isn't a bad album either. they're not the best band of all time (who is?) but they could be damn close when it's all said and done.

bri
6/12/2006, 08:44 PM
that whiny peice of **** and his band are no talent *** hats? Why do people like this band ...You can like the but the band plays nothing amazing..Its simple to cord **** with good lyrics by some whiny guy

At first, I was gonna be all, "hey there, young feller, shut yer trap", 'cause A.M. is easily one of my top 10 favorite albums of all time, with Summerteeth probably cracking the top 25. Then I realized that you're ripping Jeff Tweedy a new one, and I was like, "Carry on."

Jay Farrar > Jeff Tweedy :D

GottaHavePride
6/12/2006, 09:42 PM
A quote from a Russian exchange student:

"Metallica is greatest band of all time. If Metallica met Dave Matthews, Metallica would make Dave Matthews f*** his face."

As you can see, he hadn't quite mastered the language at that point.

When I saw this thread bumped, and thought it was a new thread, I was getting ready to post this nugget of wisdom again, until I realized I already had.


Oh, and all you goons argued about bass players and didn't even mention Victor Wooten? Heck, that dude can sound like any of the other guys on that big list without missing a beat.

soonerspiff
6/12/2006, 10:11 PM
Dolemite, you're welcome to your opinion and I agree with some of your musical taste. Except I don't bow out to Radiohead like they are freaking musical Gods. I like them, probably one of my favorite bands, but you can find criticisms with just about anyone.

Also, just because a song has a simple chord structure, that automatically makes it not worth anything aesthetically?

dolemitesooner
6/12/2006, 10:12 PM
Dolemite, you're welcome to your opinion and I agree with some of your musical taste. Except I don't bow out to Radiohead like they are freaking musical Gods. I like them, probably one of my favorite bands, but you can find criticisms with just about anyone.

Also, just because a song has a simple chord structure, that automatically makes it not worth anything aesthetically?
yeah thats whaT i AM SAYING :D

Rhino
6/12/2006, 11:31 PM
This is the kind of thread that needs to be bumped. Good job, gdc.

On the flip side, you guys are some silly bitches with your guesses.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
6/13/2006, 12:30 AM
If Elvis and the Jimmi Hendrex Experience are both considered solo acts, then the answer is THE DOORS.

starclassic tama
6/13/2006, 02:24 AM
Eddie Vedder needs lessons and the rest of the band needs to practice. If you like the depressing style of the nineties, I can't dissuade you. The nineties proves that you can dress like crap, suck at your instrument, write tunes three chord tunes that people before you would avoid out of embarrassment, and whine in to the microphone about your lousy life with all of your money and rule the music world. I hated it.

i sincerely hope you aren't including matt cameron, pearl jam's drummer in that list, because he is an amazing drummer.

OUAndy1807
6/13/2006, 06:25 AM
I can agree with Old 97's or Uncle Tupelo, but the obvious answer is:
http://www.quartzcity.net/blog/blogpics/mc5-kickoutthejams.jpg
Kick out the jams, mother****er.

tbl
6/13/2006, 06:38 AM
Pixies or Nirvana... It's a toss up. Pearl Jam is maybe in the top 30. MAYBE.

tbl
6/13/2006, 06:40 AM
Best American band from nowadays, IMO, is Wilco... the others don't really come close to me.
That's definitely a good one for bands that are still around making albums. Tweedy is the man. Now if the Pixies would only make a new album....

BoogercountySooner
6/13/2006, 08:47 AM
Lynyrd Skynyrd!

ZZ Top

Molly Hatchett

Southern rock Rules!

SoonerWood
6/13/2006, 09:22 AM
The only problem with this thread is that Pearl Jam has sucked since the day they released album #2

sooneron
6/13/2006, 09:55 AM
The only problem with this thread is that Pearl Jam has sucked since the day they released album #2
You're saying that VS. sucked? You must LOVE frat rock.

BillyBall
6/13/2006, 10:21 AM
Listen to PJs "Live at Benaroya Hall".... I think what Mike McCreedy does with a guitar on Black at this show should be illegal in all 50 states. And Puerto Rico.

Rhino
6/13/2006, 10:35 AM
If Elvis and the Jimmi Hendrex Experience are both considered solo acts, then the answer is THE DOORS. The Doors aren't anywhere as good as some would have you believe.

C&CDean
6/13/2006, 10:51 AM
The Doors aren't anywhere as good as some would have you believe.

True story.

I haven't read this thread - only the last page. However, The Dixie Dregs would be tough to beat if we're judging the band simply on talent. If we're talking "present day" bands then I don't have an opinion. They all pretty much suck to me.

BlondeSoonerGirl
6/13/2006, 10:52 AM
PJ's a really good band.

And that's all I've ever thought about them.

Dang.

Rhino
6/13/2006, 11:06 AM
I haven't read this thread - only the last page. However, The Dixie Dregs would be tough to beat if we're judging the band simply on talent. If we're talking "present day" bands then I don't have an opinion. They all pretty much suck to me. You guess of Grand Funk on the first page was better.

Not that I'm claiming to know much about The Dixie Dregs.

BlondeSoonerGirl
6/13/2006, 11:08 AM
Grand Funk had some serious anglo-fros.

They were truly kickin' it live...

C&CDean
6/13/2006, 11:11 AM
You guess of Grand Funk on the first page was better.

Not that I'm claiming to know much about The Dixie Dregs.

:O Next time I should look at the first page and see that the thread is over 2 years old!

I do like me some Grand Funk, but for sheer musicianship, check out the Dregs. Not real easy to listen to (no commercial sound here), but the boys are lights out on their instruments. No vocals either. I'm thinking early 80's maybe?

OUAndy1807
6/13/2006, 04:32 PM
Can someone please delete all the posts after my MC5 post and lock the thread?

Jeopardude
6/13/2006, 04:37 PM
Without Eddie Vedder's weird note jumping singing, there'd be no Dave Matthews. That's why I wish there were no Eddie Vedder.

bri
6/13/2006, 05:25 PM
Without Eddie Vedder, there would be no Eddie Vedder fans.

That's why I wish there were no Eddie Vedder.

King Crimson
6/13/2006, 05:50 PM
it's either:

Skynard
CCR
the Stooges (props to GDC)
Velvet Underground
the minutemen
sonic youth
Buddy Holly and the Crickets
Allman Bros
pixes
Band of Gypsies
Bill Haley and the Comets


it ain't PJ.

King Crimson
6/13/2006, 05:53 PM
if it were me: i'd vote for either CCR, VU, or the stooges as being quintessentially americana at a place in time. or whatever the hell the Woody Guthrie is doing these days.

OUAndy1807
6/13/2006, 05:56 PM
The Stooges would be right up there, also. And CCR if it hadn't been for "Heard it through the grapevine"

TopDawg
6/13/2006, 06:05 PM
The Bloodhound Gang