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Okla-homey
11/25/2008, 04:53 PM
:rolleyes:


RUSSIAN ANALYST PREDICTS DECLINE AND BREAKUP OF USA
Tue Nov 25 2008 09:04:22 ET

A leading Russian political analyst has said the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the country is heading for collapse, and will divide into separate parts.

Professor Igor Panarin said in an interview with the respected daily IZVESTIA published on Monday: "The dollar is not secured by anything. The country's foreign debt has grown like an avalanche, even though in the early 1980s there was no debt. By 1998, when I first made my prediction, it had exceeded $2 trillion. Now it is more than 11 trillion. This is a pyramid that can only collapse."

The paper said Panarin's dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year's events.

When asked when the U.S. economy would collapse, Panarin said: "It is already collapsing. Due to the financial crisis, three of the largest and oldest five banks on Wall Street have already ceased to exist, and two are barely surviving. Their losses are the biggest in history. Now what we will see is a change in the regulatory system on a global financial scale: America will no longer be the world's financial regulator."

When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: "Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia."

Asked why he expected the U.S. to break up into separate parts, he said: "A whole range of reasons. Firstly, the financial problems in the U.S. will get worse. Millions of citizens there have lost their savings. Prices and unemployment are on the rise. General Motors and Ford are on the verge of collapse, and this means that whole cities will be left without work. Governors are already insistently demanding money from the federal center. Dissatisfaction is growing, and at the moment it is only being held back by the elections and the hope that Obama can work miracles. But by spring, it will be clear that there are no miracles."

He also cited the "vulnerable political setup", "lack of unified national laws", and "divisions among the elite, which have become clear in these crisis conditions."

He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

He even suggested that "we could claim Alaska - it was only granted on lease, after all." Panarin, 60, is a professor at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and has authored several books on information warfare.

JohnnyMack
11/25/2008, 04:54 PM
That would be cool. If this was 1786.

yermom
11/25/2008, 04:58 PM
um, yeah, things aren't THAT bad

i can kinda see thinking those kinda things reading just headlines and such from the other side of the world though

other than SicEm i don't see too many people wanting to split up the Union

SicEmBaylor
11/25/2008, 04:59 PM
I think the Russians are partially correct. These United States are clearly declining and have been for a very long time. The outward signs of the decline are just becoming evident, but the foundation has been rotting away for more than a century.

I'm not sure the country will break up along regional lines or at all -- I tend to believe the country will continue to dive deeper in the cess pool together until our political and legal foundations have rotted to such an extent that the Constitution is entirely dismissed and a new political paradigm is established. I truly fear for that new political paradigm, because I think it'll be fairly brutal.

SicEmBaylor
11/25/2008, 05:00 PM
other than SicEm i don't see too many people wanting to split up the Union

I never said I wanted to split the Union up. I think it would be a disaster.

yermom
11/25/2008, 05:01 PM
i forgot the winky ;)

Okla-homey
11/25/2008, 05:01 PM
Well hopefully us here in Middletopia will be okay with our crusty red state goodness.;)

SicEmBaylor
11/25/2008, 05:01 PM
i forgot the winky ;)

I did too. ;)

Viking Kitten
11/25/2008, 05:04 PM
Being on an elevator when somebody shouts "HOLD THE DOOR!"...

Howzit
11/25/2008, 05:07 PM
He predicted that the U.S. will break up into six parts - the Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong.

BOK

(boogie on keyboard)

TUSooner
11/25/2008, 05:23 PM
That would be cool. If this was 1786.

:D

But let's check with Sec 'Em before we write it all off, OK?

Frozen Sooner
11/25/2008, 06:02 PM
"Lease" my shiny metal ***.

OklahomaTuba
11/25/2008, 06:14 PM
No worrys, The One will save us all.

bluedogok
11/25/2008, 09:52 PM
Like a totalitarian central authority was able to prevent breakaway regions :rolleyes:

8timechamps
11/25/2008, 11:01 PM
I call Vermont.


Nobody else can have it now. It's been called.

Half a Hundred
11/25/2008, 11:11 PM
BOK

(boogie on keyboard)

That only makes sense if the United States was the Soviet Union.

Which it wasn't.

Our dominant ethnic group has shifted way too many times over history. It wasn't just the WASPs dominating everything entirely, and forcing us to speak in a funky mid-Atlantic accent. No, they would let Dutchmen and Germans and even Irish be in charge every once in a while. We've let a black man be in charge now.

Unlike the Soviets, who had full ethnic Russian control over everything unless a Georgian or Ukrainian (who renounced his background) strongman killed all the competition every once in a while.

This guy is stupid for thinking Central Asia isn't the weirdest place on the planet.

OUDoc
11/26/2008, 09:02 AM
So I can stop paying taxes now?

Okla-homey
11/26/2008, 09:31 AM
So I can stop paying taxes now?

only if you would enjoy moving your practice to Leavenworth, Kansas. If so, prolly oughtta brush-up on the treatment of rectal trauma and stab wounds.:D

Sooner Born Sooner Bred
11/26/2008, 09:36 AM
Being on an elevator when somebody shouts "HOLD THE DOOR!"...[Mack Brown] I'll answer that for M [/Mack Brown]

**** you lady that's waht stairs are for!!!