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SteelClip49
11/13/2008, 12:31 PM
Here is what I say....

Iowa State= 2000

Colorado= 1994

Kansas= 2007

Kansas State= 1998

Nebraska= 1995

Missouri= 2007

Pokes= 1984

Baylor= 1980

Texas= 2005

Taco Tech= 2008

Texas Aggies= 1992

Oklahoma= 1974

TMcGee86
11/13/2008, 12:37 PM
Here is what I say....

Iowa State= 2000

Colorado= 1994

Kansas= 2007

Kansas State= 1998

Nebraska= 1995

Missouri= 2007

Pokes= 1984

Baylor= 1980

Texas= 2005

Taco Tech= 2008

Texas Aggies= 1938

Oklahoma= 1974

fixed ;)

BoulderSooner79
11/13/2008, 12:39 PM
For so many of those schools, it is obvious.

For OU, there are so many years that you could make an argument for. :D

'56,'71,'73,'74,'75,'78,'85,'86,'87,'00,'03

Probably more in the '50's I just don't know the details.

Sooner1979
11/13/2008, 12:40 PM
Here is what I say....

Iowa State= 2000

Colorado= 1994

Kansas= 2007

Kansas State= 1998

Nebraska= 1995

Missouri= 2007

Pokes= 1984

Baylor= 1980

Texas= 2005

Taco Tech= 2008

Texas Aggies= 1992

Oklahoma= 1974

So Colorado's team in 1994 was better than their 1991 team which won a National Championship?

fadada1
11/13/2008, 12:42 PM
Here is what I say....

Iowa State= 2000

Colorado= 1994

Kansas= 2007

Kansas State= 1998

Nebraska= 1995

Missouri= 2007

Pokes= There was one?

Baylor= 1980

Texas= 2005

Taco Tech= 2008

Texas Aggies= 1992

Oklahoma= 1974

now it's fixed.

PDXsooner
11/13/2008, 12:43 PM
They won the national title in '90 -- and in doing so they lost to Illinois, tied Tennessee, and needed a 5th down to beat Missouri. Not impressive.

badger
11/13/2008, 12:43 PM
Here is what I say....

Iowa State= 2000

Colorado= 1994

Kansas= 2007

Kansas State= 1998

Nebraska= 1995

Missouri= 2007

Pokes= 1984

Baylor= 1980

Texas= 2005

Taco Tech= 2008

Texas Aggies= 1992

Oklahoma= 1974

Well... you also have to take into account that the Big 12 has only been around for about 12 years, right? So... how bout just during those 12 years?

Iowa State: 2002 (Seneca Wallace, ranked in top 10 for the first time in history, etc)

Colorado: 2001 (Big 12 championship and beating national title game-bound Nebbish to get to the championship)

Kansas: 2007 (12-1 season, Orange Bowl win, no arguments there!)

Kansas State: 2003 (a toss-up, but since they finally got their BCS game have several years of being eligible, they really earned it this year, much to OUr chagrin)

Nebraska: 1997 (it would be '95 for overall, '97 for just Big 12 years)

Mizzou: 2007 (No argument w/ a 12-2 season - if only they didn't play us twice, lol)

Pokes: 2008 (They had a good year in 2002, but this tops then, even if they lose their last games - but yeah, the 80s were good Poke years)

Baylor: TBD (How bout we just put Women's Basketball 2005 here?)

Texas: 2005 (Mack daddy's only Big 12 and National championship. The Rose Bowl isn't a bad place to win it at, either)

Tech: 2008 (Potentially even greater, but even if they lose out, still the best Tech season ever)

Aggies: 1998 (A Big 12 Championship, even if they ended up losing to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl)

OU: 2000 (Big 12, National, Orange, and nearly a Heisman later, still the best Big 12 season)

Dan Thompson
11/13/2008, 12:48 PM
OU - 1956

http://www.soonerstats.com/football/seasons/schedule.cfm?seasonid=1956

RUF/NEK N TX
11/13/2008, 06:53 PM
The great thing about OU is that our greatest team is still to come.

AllAboutThe'O'
11/13/2008, 07:02 PM
They won the national title in '90 -- and in doing so they lost to Illinois, tied Tennessee, and needed a 5th down to beat Missouri. Not impressive.

Not to mention there was also a questionable clipping penalty that negated a Rocket Ismail punt return for a TD that would have given Notre Dame a possible win over Colorado in the '91 Orange Bowl.

To this day, I still maintain that Georgia Tech was the only true national champion that year.

Salt City Sooner
11/13/2008, 07:04 PM
I'd have to take '88 OSU over '84 by just a hair. I know the '84 D was much better than '88, but that offense made up for it & then some. OU was the only team that year to hold them under 40 points, & despite only scoring 28 that day, they were a Brent Parker flat out drop away from 11-1, something '84 can't say. JMO.

JLEW1818
11/13/2008, 07:09 PM
you cant compare 70's to 80's to 90's to 2000's.

Even the 2005 team would have beat both 70 teams.

sooner518
11/13/2008, 07:18 PM
OU - 1956

http://www.soonerstats.com/football/seasons/schedule.cfm?seasonid=1956

No disrespect to the 56 team, but dang, they only played one team with a winning record? good thing there was no SOS computers back then

Sabanball
11/13/2008, 07:37 PM
Nebraska--hard to top the 1983 Nebraska team IMO, even though they did not win the NC because of one of the gutsiest calls in the history of the game by Tom Osborne.

instigator
11/13/2008, 07:41 PM
For so many of those schools, it is obvious.

For OU, there are so many years that you could make an argument for. :D

'56,'71,'73,'74,'75,'78,'85,'86,'87,'00,'03

Probably more in the '50's I just don't know the details.

There are only 7 choices.

SbOrOiNaEnR
11/13/2008, 08:10 PM
No disrespect to the 56 team, but dang, they only played one team with a winning record? good thing there was no SOS computers back then


You know, I never noticed that about the '56 team before. Kinda takes the luster away from pitching 6 shutouts when those teams are a combined 13-44.

stoopified
11/13/2008, 08:16 PM
Well... you also have to take into account that the Big 12 has only been around for about 12 years, right? So... how bout just during those 12 years?

Iowa State: 2002 (Seneca Wallace, ranked in top 10 for the first time in history, etc)

Colorado: 2001 (Big 12 championship and beating national title game-bound Nebbish to get to the championship)

Kansas: 2007 (12-1 season, Orange Bowl win, no arguments there!)

Kansas State: 2003 (a toss-up, but since they finally got their BCS game have several years of being eligible, they really earned it this year, much to OUr chagrin)

Nebraska: 1997 (it would be '95 for overall, '97 for just Big 12 years)

Mizzou: 2007 (No argument w/ a 12-2 season - if only they didn't play us twice, lol)

Pokes: 2008 (They had a good year in 2002, but this tops then, even if they lose their last games - but yeah, the 80s were good Poke years)

Baylor: TBD (How bout we just put Women's Basketball 2005 here?)

Texas: 2005 (Mack daddy's only Big 12 and National championship. The Rose Bowl isn't a bad place to win it at, either)

Tech: 2008 (Potentially even greater, but even if they lose out, still the best Tech season ever)

Aggies: 1998 (A Big 12 Championship, even if they ended up losing to Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl)

OU: 2000 (Big 12, National, Orange, and nearly a Heisman later, still the best Big 12 season)Substitute 1988 Brry Sanders led Pokes and I think you hsve it>The Pokes' only losses were to nationally ranked OU#14,NU#10.This club will lose at least three inluding the finale at home and got throttled by TT.

2000 has to be OU's best ,apologies to Bud,Barry.Bud's teams in 155-1956 combined did not play as many ranked teams as did the OU 2000 squad.Same is true of Barry;s NC squads.of which only the 1974 squad went undefeated.

tommieharris91
11/13/2008, 08:22 PM
Substitute 1988 Brry Sanders led Pokes and I think you hsve it>The Pokes' only losses were to nationally ranked OU#14,NU#10.This club will lose at least three inluding the finale at home and got throttled by TT.

2000 has to be OU's best ,apologies to Bud,Barry.Bud's teams in 155-1956 combined did not play as many ranked teams as did the OU 2000 squad.Same is true of Barry;s NC squads.of which only the 1974 squad went undefeated.

The Big XII wasn't the Big XII in 1988 or 1955 or 1956.

NYC Poke
11/13/2008, 08:24 PM
Brent Parker flat out drop

It still hurts. :( :( :(

stoops the eternal pimp
11/13/2008, 08:26 PM
It still hurts. :( :( :(

they should put his statue outside the stadium too with the Heisman winners

SoonerDood
11/13/2008, 08:30 PM
Sorry Baj, Iowa's State was much better in 2k than they were in 2002. I know about all the Seneca Wallace hype, but they finished 7-7 after we destroyed them. Wish our defense still did that. In 2000, ISU was led by another NFL career backup, Sage Rosenfels, and went 9-3.

SoonerObsession
11/13/2008, 08:38 PM
2005 Texas needed Vince Young to be great. Are you sure they were the best Texas "team"?

JLEW1818
11/14/2008, 01:35 AM
2005 Texas needed Vince Young to be great. Are you sure they were the best Texas "team"?


yes, he was the best college football player ever. sad but true

John Kochtoston
11/14/2008, 01:48 AM
Nebraska--hard to top the 1983 Nebraska team IMO, even though they did not win the NC because of one of the gutsiest calls in the history of the game by Tom Osborne.

The '71 and '95 Nebraska teams were much better than the '83 team. They'd have been going for two just to run up the score.

Still the right move to go for two. Silly play call, but the right move.

JLEW1818
11/14/2008, 01:53 AM
95. TF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LHbZ3T4rzA

KingBarry
11/14/2008, 05:51 AM
95. TF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LHbZ3T4rzA

That's not great offense, that's suck tackling. Wasn't that the year before Mr Stoops took over the Gator D?

badger
11/14/2008, 10:48 AM
Sorry Baj, Iowa's State was much better in 2k than they were in 2002. I know about all the Seneca Wallace hype, but they finished 7-7 after we destroyed them. Wish our defense still did that. In 2000, ISU was led by another NFL career backup, Sage Rosenfels, and went 9-3.

I based my list more on perceived success, as opposed to "Would 2000 ISU beat 2002 ISU?" They had a meltdown in 02, yes, but I still think people will talk longer about the Seneca year - the year people actually paid attention to ISU football and not just their star wrestler or women's basketball team - than 00.


Substitute 1988 Brry Sanders led Pokes and I think you hsve it>The Pokes' only losses were to nationally ranked OU#14,NU#10.This club will lose at least three inluding the finale at home and got throttled by TT.

2000 has to be OU's best ,apologies to Bud,Barry.Bud's teams in 155-1956 combined did not play as many ranked teams as did the OU 2000 squad.Same is true of Barry;s NC squads.of which only the 1974 squad went undefeated.

I was only doing Big XII years, which go back to 1996 when the conference started. Again, I was basing it off perceived success, not "Would 2000 Sooners beat 2003 Sooners or 2004 Sooners?" or some odd formula. Based on perceived success, how can you pick against the longer winning streak in NCAA history?

:P Unless you're like me a copping out by only considering teams of the last 12 years.

JLEW1818
11/14/2008, 02:41 PM
That's not great offense, that's suck tackling. Wasn't that the year before Mr Stoops took over the Gator D?

yep

BoulderSooner79
11/14/2008, 05:31 PM
There are only 7 choices.

You could only consider the MNC teams, but that's a beauty contest as we all know. And it was worse before the BCS. The best team doesn't always win and the topic was opinion on the best team.

I went to school at OU in the '70's and the best 2 teams from that era IMO were the '73 and '78 squads. The '73 squad was so young, they just didn't realize how good they were. Their only blemish was a 7-7 tie with USC in the coliseum where they out gained 'SC by something like 400yds to 200yds and 'SC was defending MNCs. The defense was ridiculous. The '78 team wasn't quite as stout on D, but still very good. But the offense was the peak of the mature version of that great '75 recruiting class headed by Billy Sims and was just about unstoppable. They left the MNC on the turf - fumbling inside the 5 on a terrible weather day in LIncoln when they outgained NU by 2:1.