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ratedrsuperstar
11/2/2008, 11:29 PM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State with the way we play Defense ?

I see a lot of post here that look a lot more like wishful thinking than common sense !

royalfan5
11/2/2008, 11:31 PM
****, if Nebraska can damn near beat Tech, I'm guessing Oklahoma might be able to swing it.

the_edge
11/2/2008, 11:32 PM
We're going to beat them by scoring 55-60 points.

tommieharris91
11/2/2008, 11:37 PM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State?


Our offense.

BoulderSooner79
11/2/2008, 11:38 PM
Walk a mile in our opponents DC's shoes. You think they are going to sleep well the week they prepare to play OU ? Plus, I don't see most posters here claiming we are going to win out - every one knows it will be a great challenge. But "can" we win out ? Absolutely.

setem
11/2/2008, 11:41 PM
Because we are not all negative *******s!

The game is at home and we play great at home!

StoopTroup
11/2/2008, 11:45 PM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State with the way we play Defense ?

I see a lot of post here that look a lot more like wishful thinking than common sense !

Common Sense?

Seriously?

I mean you've been on the board since July 14th and you have thought we were going to lose to tech or aggy all this time?

Or...did you just put it together this week?

I've been watching the replays of the aggie games. Yeah...they have one of the better teams Gundy's been able to put together. Yeah...they almost got lucky in austin against the whorns.

I've also seen how lots of Robinson's passes are lofted up and the aggy receiver's out jump the defenders. I can agree that a few of those might turn into a big play here and there. I can also see a few of those...maybe even all of them getting picked off too.

What I don't see is the aggy defense stopping Sam and the Sooner offense. Yeah it's going to be loud. It was loud in Manhattan. It's going to be pretty loud in college Station this week too. I think we have a tougher game with sand aggie first though....so if I was going to do a post like yours...it might have said "What makes you think you'll beat sand aggie".

They are the ones that knocked off texas....aggy is still enjoying their moral victory over the whorns.

JLEW1818
11/2/2008, 11:48 PM
Because Bob Stoops will out coach Leach and Gundy.

StoopTroup
11/2/2008, 11:49 PM
Because Bob Stoops will out coach Leach.
This would have been my response to rated had he just asked about tech.

JLEW1818
11/2/2008, 11:56 PM
Yep, I think Stoops rises to the occasion and shuts some people up. oh and we will score a lot. haha

ratedrsuperstar
11/2/2008, 11:59 PM
This would have been my response to rated had he just asked about tech.

Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

Sooner_Havok
11/3/2008, 12:04 AM
Sup zep?

tommieharris91
11/3/2008, 12:04 AM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

Uhh, those games were in Lubbock, and OU has won 3 of the last 5.

SbOrOiNaEnR
11/3/2008, 12:06 AM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

Not a chance. In 2005 TTU beats Stoops's worst OU team with serious help from the refs (it doesn't get mentioned much anymore because the Oregon debacle was a far more blatant f*ck up by the zebras), and OU lost in 2007 largely due to the inexperience of Halzle (although let's not forget that he ALMOST pulled it off...a little more time on the clock, and a few calls go our way), and the HUGE emotional downswing that comes from losing the heart and soul of our offense.

Leach is a damn fine coach, and what he's done at Tech has been nothing short of remarkable, but Bob Stoops still has his number.

ouwasp
11/3/2008, 12:11 AM
[QUOTE=ratedrsuperstar;2471042]Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?[/QUO

if you remember, in '05 the refs pulled a Pac-10 on us several times in the last couple minutes....in '07 Sam got knocked silly real early...easy to "outcoach" someone when those breaks go your way.

as for the original question, I don't really have any faith the OU will stop them with any consistency....but hopefully enough to outscore them...

OU-HSV
11/3/2008, 12:11 AM
One word:
Offense

JLEW1818
11/3/2008, 12:14 AM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

yah dip****, when is the last time Tech has won in Norman? Out coached? We got out quarterbacked last year.

derr. you could also say "Tech has won 1 out of the last 1"

2005 was also the 2nd worse Oklahoma team of the decade. And we got screwed.

We will see how Harrell reacts when there are thousands of people cheering against him, not for him.

Sooner98
11/3/2008, 12:22 AM
Sup zep?

Is this the eighth re-incarnation of NickZeppelin?

PalmBeachSooner1
11/3/2008, 12:26 AM
I used to see that clown pulling this crap over on another site. He doesn't even deserve a response.

BoulderSooner79
11/3/2008, 12:46 AM
TT had the horns beaten twice over on Saturday and still needed a miracle finish to avoid a major choke. Then there is the NU game that went to OT in Lubbock. TT will have to play a complete game in Norman to get the W.

aurorasooner
11/3/2008, 01:21 AM
yah dip****, when is the last time Tech has won in Norman? Out coached? We got out quarterbacked last year.
Actually KW went totally SFB last year when Sam went out of the game and Joey came in and instead of running the ball we didn't adapt our offensive game-plan to having the BU QB in the game.

hobbes2702
11/3/2008, 01:29 AM
Y'all are gonna dominate against Tech. You always do. Stoops knows too much about Leach's offense. Y'all always shut them down on O especially in Norman. OSU will be tougher but who knows in that one.

Boffingham
11/3/2008, 02:17 AM
we are "fans" and that is what "fans" do. If I thought OU would lose to everybody, I wouldn't even watch the games and wouldn't care. I'm sure you thought we would beat Texas. I'm sure you thought we would beat TT last year, and Colorado, and WV. Quit trying to get attention by posting what ESPN thinks and start being a fan.

OU_Sooners75
11/3/2008, 02:42 AM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State with the way we play Defense ?

I see a lot of post here that look a lot more like wishful thinking than common sense !

Nick Zepplin, is that you?

OU_Sooners75
11/3/2008, 02:49 AM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

In Lubbuck. OU has not lost to Tech in Norman since 1996.

We are 11-4 against Tech. 1 loss in Norman. 3 losses in Lubbuck.

We have not lost at home in conference since Nov. 24th of 2001.

I like our chances against Tech.

There may be a NCAA record for points scored in the game though.

One thing, Mr. Nick Zepplin...

OU has the capability to outscore any team in the nation. Our defense is suspect, but I do not see ANY DEFENSES in the NATION that can stop our offense this year.

The best defense we have this year is our offense!

DallasSooner87
11/3/2008, 03:38 AM
This may sound like wishful thinking, but maybe the D actually gets sick of hearing how bad they are. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulders. Maybe they light up the receivers that dare cross the middle. Maybe we bring some new blitz packages that confuse the crap out of the respective O-lines. And hopefully Dez Bryant and Crabtree see no fewer than two defenders on them at any given time. Of course the offense is going to put up points, but I see the D getting a few momentum swingers in the games.

Maybe it is wishful thinking, but two weeks is a long time in football. Who knows?
:pop:

Fraggle145
11/3/2008, 04:28 AM
1) We have yet to score less than 35 points.

2) Tech cant bring their refs with them... They played a pivotal role in both '05 and last year.

I am more worried about Tech being able to beat osu. I just hope they dont **** the bed.

AlbqSooner
11/3/2008, 06:19 AM
What makes me think we beat tech and aggy???

I work in the casino industry where virtually everything is based on the odds. I have been watching the Sooners play football since 1954. Every time they play I think they can beat the other team. The odds tell me that.

I am a Sooner fan. I ALWAYS think we can win!!

Call me a kool-aid drinker if you choose, but the odds are that OU wins everytime they strap on the head gear.

swardboy
11/3/2008, 07:03 AM
Sup zep?

Eggs zackly....:D

adoniijahsooner
11/3/2008, 08:20 AM
1) We have yet to score less than 35 points.

2) Tech cant bring their refs with them... They played a pivotal role in both '05 and last year.

I am more worried about Tech being able to beat osu. I just hope they dont **** the bed.

Exactly. I have not heard anyone mention that Texh has to beat OSU for any of this matter.

Crimson_Balls
11/3/2008, 09:21 AM
If we can win this weekend and Tech can win this weekend, we will be the underdog at home against the Red Raiders.

I like our chances after the bye week. Especially if it's a night game :D


Does Tech also have a bye week the same week as we do?

Iam4OUru
11/3/2008, 09:57 AM
If we can win this weekend and Tech can win this weekend, we will be the underdog at home against the Red Raiders.



I'm not sure about that.

htownsooner7
11/3/2008, 10:06 AM
We won't be the underdog. You don't know much about this stuff, do you?

sooner_born_1960
11/3/2008, 10:19 AM
Does Tech also have a bye week the same week as we do?
Yes.

stoopified
11/3/2008, 10:26 AM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State with the way we play Defense ?

I see a lot of post here that look a lot more like wishful thinking than common sense !Hmm the SOONERS play bad D?Check this out:

Category-national rank

Rush D
TT-10
OU-35
oSu-36


Pass D
OU-90
oSu-91
TT-100

Total D
TT-54
OU-59
oSu-62

Scoring D
oSu-39
TT-46
OU- 51

Call me crazy but I don't see oSu or TT playing all that better than us on D.Add to that OU has played (4) quality opponents-Cincy,TCU,UT,KU while oSu has played (2)UT,MU and TT has also played (2)KU,UT.That alone is enough to skew the stats.

Add to that we have TT in NORMAN where Leach is winless and without his SPECIALreferees.oSu is in Stillwater but Bob has only lost there once AND we have 2 more games to get better on D(primarily get Box more reps).

boomersooner2001
11/3/2008, 10:39 AM
This may sound like wishful thinking, but maybe the D actually gets sick of hearing how bad they are. Maybe they play with a chip on their shoulders. Maybe they light up the receivers that dare cross the middle. :pop:

The fact that the national media (ESPN, Fox Sports, etc) have started commenting on our sloppy defensive play, has hopefully got these guys fired up and ready to hit someone in the mouth. They definitely stepped up the intensity Saturday night. That something OUr defense has been lacking the past several weeks.

Widescreen
11/3/2008, 10:42 AM
The fact that the national media (ESPN, Fox Sports, etc) have started commenting on our sloppy defensive play, has hopefully got these guys fired up and ready to hit someone in the mouth. They definitely stepped up the intensity Saturday night. That something OUr defense has been lacking the past several weeks.

That assumes that they're physically and mentally capable of playing better than they have. I hope so.

fadada1
11/3/2008, 10:45 AM
i have faith that 3 weeks of preparation for tech will do wonders. yeah, we still have a game this weekend, but don't think the coaches haven't put a couple things in the heads of our D in preparation for tech.

did anyone (seriously) think we would shut down mizzou like we did last year in the big12 game??? sure, we had a stud LB working the middle, but the coaches were the same, with the same mindset. i say we show very well this weekend against the hitler youth. but i say we shine against tech and use that momentum going into rustoleum/painted turd field.

Civicus_Sooner
11/3/2008, 10:55 AM
OU's offense is better than aggie and lubby's.

lithium
11/3/2008, 11:47 AM
What about Sam > Harrell
Our Offence => their offence
Even with all the complaining about our D it is still better then theirs.
Only part of the game we are worst then TT is special teams.

Plus we play this game @ HOME!

So here you go, I'm just using "common sense"
And to add to this I bet OU will be favorite in that game at least by 5 points.

BoulderSooner79
11/3/2008, 11:53 AM
We out-played NU on kick-offs by a wide margin on Saturday.
I don't know about the TT punting game.
TT has had more kicker pains than we have; Mike drafted a student from the stands :)
Had Crabtree made that catch, but stepped out of bounds, I wonder who Mike would have trotted out for the FG attempt ?

SoonerShark
11/3/2008, 11:57 AM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?

In 2005, Tech received a first down for going 9 out of 10 yards on its final drive. (look at youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI0ec11sVvk&feature=related)

In 2007, the top rated QB in the nation, Sam Bradford, who probably would have thrown for four or five TDs against Tech plus would have controlled the clock better went down in the first quarter.

Still Disco Tech versus our defense that plays pass defense like the other team's receivers has leprosy worries me.

JLEW1818
11/3/2008, 12:06 PM
Makes me want to kill somebody every time i watch it.

Soonermagik
11/3/2008, 12:06 PM
Ummm.... we never lose at home.

However, the OSU game is going to be a dog fight. In order to win at OK State we have to stop the run and must get a run game going. I think OSU will be close, but Tech won't be.

Salt City Sooner
11/3/2008, 12:07 PM
What about Sam > Harrell
Our Offence => their offence
Even with all the complaining about our D it is still better then theirs.
Only part of the game we are worst then TT is special teams.

Plus we play this game @ HOME!

So here you go, I'm just using "common sense"
And to add to this I bet OU will be favorite in that game at least by 5 points.
Uh, Tech just had to pull a kicker out of their student body because the guy they had was stinking up the joint so badly. I wouldn't conceed this one just yet.

JLEW1818
11/3/2008, 12:10 PM
The doors just opened for Sam's Heisman again.

My Opinion Matters
11/3/2008, 12:21 PM
I'll be honest, I'm not optimistic about beating OSU in Stillwater.

Crimson_Balls
11/3/2008, 01:43 PM
We won't be the underdog. You don't know much about this stuff, do you?


If Tech beats #8 OSU and and is ranked #2 in the BCS...undefeated, you don't think they will be favored to beat Oklahoma?

I know the game is in Norman and we haven't lost a conference game at home since 2001, but we will be ranked #6 and with a loss.

With our reputation, dropping a few big games in the last few years and not having a solid pass defense....I wouldn't be surprised if Tech was favored even if only by a slim margin.

We will certainly see. But first things first. Tech has to settle down after a big win. They haven't been in the drivers seat to a National Championship this late in a season under Leach.

And we have to beat A&M

The Maestro
11/3/2008, 01:50 PM
If Tech beats #8 OSU and and is ranked #2 in the BCS...undefeated, you don't think they will be favored to beat Oklahoma?

I know the game is in Norman and we haven't lost a conference game at home since 2001, but we will be ranked #6 and with a loss.

With our reputation, dropping a few big games in the last few years and not having a solid pass defense....I wouldn't be surprised if Tech was favored even if only by a slim margin.

2 losses at home in ten years.

Vegas makes odds and Vegas doesn't like to lose. OU favored regardless of Tech's rank.

Crimson_Balls
11/3/2008, 01:57 PM
2 losses at home in ten years.

Vegas makes odds and Vegas doesn't like to lose. OU favored regardless of Tech's rank.

OK. I only play blackjack and craps. I'm afraid if I start betting on football it will take away the LOVE of the game. Thanks

birddog
11/3/2008, 02:24 PM
OK. I only play blackjack and craps. I'm afraid if I start betting on football it will take away the LOVE of the game. Thanks

it enriches the game you love, as long as you don't bet on your team.

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/3/2008, 02:52 PM
The OsU/OU game is simple...If OSU can keep total possessions for the entire game to somewhere around 10, they have a great chance. If they can run the ball, control the clock, they will have a shot just like at Texas. If it greatly above 10, they probably are not going to win a shootout. Now for the Tech game just switch OsU with OU and you got our way of controlling Tech, we have to use Murray and Brown to control the tempo of the game to our favor...

My Opinion Matters
11/3/2008, 03:16 PM
The OsU/OU game is simple...If OSU can keep total possessions for the entire game to somewhere around 10, they have a great chance. If they can run the ball, control the clock, they will have a shot just like at Texas. If it greatly above 10, they probably are not going to win a shootout. Now for the Tech game just switch OsU with OU and you got our way of controlling Tech, we have to use Murray and Brown to control the tempo of the game to our favor...

The OSU game is going to be to a bad combination of circumstances and match-ups stacked up against us. OSU's offensive strengths are tailor-made to exploit our defensive inadequacies. Here's what I mean:

1. Power running game-check
2. Playmakers that can exploit the middle of the field-check
3. Mobile qb with the ability to improvise-check

This isn't even taking into account the match-up problems that Dez Bryant creates. It's not hopeless, but I don't like the idea of getting into a shootout with OSU in Stillwater. If this was in Norman I'd feel a whole lot better about it.

Gandalf_The_Grey
11/3/2008, 03:23 PM
My thing with that is...lets say you give OU get 16 possessions. As good as our offense is, a 50% success rate of stopping them would be very optimistic. If we score 8 Touchdowns..that is 56 points. Even if a few of those are field goals, we are still talking in the 40's. Now if they limit possessions.. that score falls to high 20's, low 30's...they have a chance there.

S.PadreIsl.Sooner
11/3/2008, 03:39 PM
Leach won 2 out of the last three ('05 and '07) I think, does that mean he out-coach Stoops those 2 years ?


Actually, the refs won those games. Kinda like UT in '84.:mad:

Salt City Sooner
11/3/2008, 06:58 PM
If Tech beats #8 OSU and and is ranked #2 in the BCS...undefeated, you don't think they will be favored to beat Oklahoma?

I know the game is in Norman and we haven't lost a conference game at home since 2001, but we will be ranked #6 and with a loss.

With our reputation, dropping a few big games in the last few years and not having a solid pass defense....I wouldn't be surprised if Tech was favored even if only by a slim margin.

We will certainly see. But first things first. Tech has to settle down after a big win. They haven't been in the drivers seat to a National Championship this late in a season under Leach.

And we have to beat A&M
Highly doubt it. As previously mentioned, OU is nails in Norman, & I'd also point out that rankings don't necessarily matter. If you'll remember back to just last year, in the Big 12 CCG, #9 OU was favored over #1 Missouri.

TMcGee86
11/3/2008, 07:11 PM
I agree that OSU beats TTU this weekend.

That will suck, but if that happens it will be funny to watch whorn fans forced to watch as their season's hopes ride on an OU victory. :D

OU-HSV
11/3/2008, 08:24 PM
We out-played NU on kick-offs by a wide margin on Saturday.
I don't know about the TT punting game.
TT has had more kicker pains than we have; Mike drafted a student from the stands :)
Had Crabtree made that catch, but stepped out of bounds, I wonder who Mike would have trotted out for the FG attempt ?

Knowing Mike, he would've put the new kicker out there, even with the game on the line, that's just the kinda guy he is. I was wondering that on their last drive too...I guessed that if it was like 30 yds or shorter I think he'd have used the new kicker...anything longer and he would've gone with the guy who he has that is known for the longer leg. I don't know his name, but I think he used him once against texass.

85sooners
11/3/2008, 08:52 PM
:pop:

Johnny Utah
11/3/2008, 09:00 PM
Ummm.... we never lose at home.

However, the OSU game is going to be a dog fight. In order to win at OK State we have to stop the run and must get a run game going. I think OSU will be close, but Tech won't be.

A dog fight is good (as long as OU is the top dog), which is what started hyping up the SEC ... creating the perception that every game is a life or death struggle.

oubose
11/3/2008, 09:57 PM
****A modified quote from above Texas Tech HOPES to win, Oklahoma EXPECTS to win. ***
You can't think our defense won't be prepared for TT. 2 very motivated offenses, it will be a game of defense without a doubt, and remember College Station isn't the only team with a 12 man.

ratedrsuperstar
11/3/2008, 10:13 PM
I didn't realize how bad Tech's schedule has been, other than Texas they haven't beaten anyone. The Horns were on the last game of a very tough 3 game stretch and that probably had more to do with it than Tech did.
Considering the competition, the scores aren't that impressive !!!


2008 Schedule/Results
DATE OPPONENT W-L (CONF) RESULT
8/30 Eastern Washington 1-0 (0-0) W 49-24
9/06 @ Nevada 2-0 (0-0) W 35-19
9/13 Southern Methodist 3-0 (0-0) W 43-7
9/20 Massachusetts 4-0 (0-0) W 56-14
10/04 @ Kansas State 5-0 (1-0) W 58-28
10/11 Nebraska 6-0 (2-0) W 37-31 OT
10/18 @ Texas A&M 7-0 (3-0) W 43-25
10/25 @ No. 23 Kansas 8-0 (4-0) W 63-21
11/01 No. 1 Texas 9-0 (5-0) W 39-33

Sooner_Havok
11/3/2008, 10:15 PM
Is this the eighth re-incarnation of NickZeppelin?

Ninth I think

ratedrsuperstar
11/3/2008, 10:57 PM
Can someone please explain the NickZeppelin deal, I have no clue as to what you are talking about.

AlbqSooner
11/4/2008, 07:11 AM
Can someone please explain the NickZeppelin deal, I have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Nice attempt at cover Nick.;)

ratedrsuperstar
11/4/2008, 08:20 AM
Not a Nick, I'm a Ken and I live in South Georgia !
35 miles from Florida State University.



When that kept showing up I thought you guys had me mixed up with someone else, But it was confusing me with everyone say the Nick Zep stuff.

sendbaht
11/4/2008, 08:26 AM
We will beat TT......just OSU we need just a tad Sooner Magic...but I feel we beat them too!!!

engineer24
11/4/2008, 03:08 PM
I think that OU's chances of beating Tech in norman are about 60/40. I would not be surprised at all if Tech beats OU, even at home. The two prior teams that OU lost to at home werent exactly worldbeaters, and OU tends to play poorly late in the season. Texas Tech players remember beating OU before too, so they wont be intimidated at going into Norman. OU has no consistent running game, which means that like Texas they wont be able to keep Tech off the field. Also, Bradford as good as he is, is NOT a mobile QB. I think he'll put up 300 yards and 3-4 TDs, but he'll also get sacked a couple of times due to his immobility and that will give Tech enough margin to win the game.

As for OU beating OSU in Stillwater, that just aint happenin folks. I only give OU a 30% chance of winning there. OSU will keep Bradford off the field with their running game. OSU just has to force one punt and its game over because OU's defense wont stop OSU at all in that game. Remember that their stud TE Pettigrew is back and healthy (he missed most of the season). He will light up the OU linebackers all day long. Look for a repeat of what Jordan Shipley did over the middle in the Texas-OU game. Hunter is the best RB in the Big 12 BY FAR, and OU's depleted DL and LBs wont be able to stop him. I think OU will have to sell out to stop the run just to keep him from going over 150. And when they do, that means Dez Bryant will be wide open in single coverage. I dont think Dez will have a huge game, but he'll probably get 2 long balls that set up scores when OU starts cheating up to keep from getting gashed by Hunter.

Predictions:

Texas Tech 35
OU 38

OSU 42
OU 31

MiccoMacey
11/5/2008, 12:20 AM
1) Leach's offense is predicated on short, quick routes. That's great in between the 20's. But once inside the red zone, when speedier athletes are bunched closer together and can use their athleticism more, Tech's offense has tended to slow down against OU in the past.

2) Tech's defense has not shown an ability to cover a team that can both run and pass. Texas is very one-dimensional on offense when you stop their read-react option. OU will score in the 50's. And I doubt Stoops takes his foot off the gas, considering we ned to look more and more impressive (not run it up...just keep constant pressure)

3) OSU scares me more than Tech. But I'll know more once they play Tech.

Having said that, yes they can both run and pass better than any team in the Big Twelve (probably the nation).

But I still don't think they can stop us offensively. We're still more powerful than they are...we aren't as balanced, but our passing game is so much better than any facet of their offense, and our run game isn't too far behind any single facet of their offense.

We might not be able to stop them, but they haven't proven they can stop us either.

OU_Sooners75
11/5/2008, 05:29 AM
The OSU game is going to be to a bad combination of circumstances and match-ups stacked up against us. OSU's offensive strengths are tailor-made to exploit our defensive inadequacies. Here's what I mean:

1. Power running game-check
2. Playmakers that can exploit the middle of the field-check
3. Mobile qb with the ability to improvise-check

This isn't even taking into account the match-up problems that Dez Bryant creates. It's not hopeless, but I don't like the idea of getting into a shootout with OSU in Stillwater. If this was in Norman I'd feel a whole lot better about it.

Why would you feel much better about it?

The reason I ask that is simple:

1. OSU will still ahve the Power Running Game.
2. Those Playmakers will still be there to exploit the middle.
3. Barrind an injury, Robinson will still be their QB.

Not to mention Dez Bryant will still be on their starting lineup, unless injured.

OSU scares the bejesus out of me becuase of our defense, not our offense. If our defense was close to last season's defense. we would be #1 right now!

OU_Sooners75
11/5/2008, 05:34 AM
I think that OU's chances of beating Tech in norman are about 60/40. I would not be surprised at all if Tech beats OU, even at home. The two prior teams that OU lost to at home werent exactly worldbeaters, and OU tends to play poorly late in the season. Texas Tech players remember beating OU before too, so they wont be intimidated at going into Norman. OU has no consistent running game, which means that like Texas they wont be able to keep Tech off the field. Also, Bradford as good as he is, is NOT a mobile QB. I think he'll put up 300 yards and 3-4 TDs, but he'll also get sacked a couple of times due to his immobility and that will give Tech enough margin to win the game.

As for OU beating OSU in Stillwater, that just aint happenin folks. I only give OU a 30% chance of winning there. OSU will keep Bradford off the field with their running game. OSU just has to force one punt and its game over because OU's defense wont stop OSU at all in that game. Remember that their stud TE Pettigrew is back and healthy (he missed most of the season). He will light up the OU linebackers all day long. Look for a repeat of what Jordan Shipley did over the middle in the Texas-OU game. Hunter is the best RB in the Big 12 BY FAR, and OU's depleted DL and LBs wont be able to stop him. I think OU will have to sell out to stop the run just to keep him from going over 150. And when they do, that means Dez Bryant will be wide open in single coverage. I dont think Dez will have a huge game, but he'll probably get 2 long balls that set up scores when OU starts cheating up to keep from getting gashed by Hunter.

Predictions:

Texas Tech 35
OU 38

OSU 42
OU 31

In case you do not know. OU's run defense is still one of the best in the conference. Yes there has been some break downs. But I think our defense will be fine against the run.

We will have to double team Bryant. We will have to put a spy on Robinson. We will have to change our defensive philosphy completely this year in order to win this game, but I give OU more than 30% chance of winning this game.

Also, 1 big motivator, especially if Tech beats OSU and we beat Tech, we will be playing for the right to be in KC the following weekend!

birddog
11/5/2008, 08:20 AM
Knowing Mike, he would've put the new kicker out there, even with the game on the line, that's just the kinda guy he is. I was wondering that on their last drive too...I guessed that if it was like 30 yds or shorter I think he'd have used the new kicker...anything longer and he would've gone with the guy who he has that is known for the longer leg. I don't know his name, but I think he used him once against texass.

which one was carona? was he the new guy that kicked a 41 yarder against texass?

My Opinion Matters
11/5/2008, 08:53 AM
Why would you feel much better about it?

The reason I ask that is simple:

1. OSU will still ahve the Power Running Game.
2. Those Playmakers will still be there to exploit the middle.
3. Barrind an injury, Robinson will still be their QB.

Not to mention Dez Bryant will still be on their starting lineup, unless injured.

OSU scares the bejesus out of me becuase of our defense, not our offense. If our defense was close to last season's defense. we would be #1 right now!

OU under Stoops is an entirely different team at home. Anyone that watches football can tell you that.

Widescreen
11/5/2008, 09:10 AM
OSU 42
OU 31

You seriously think OSU will hold us to our lowest output of the season? You think their defense is better than Texas or TCU?



One thing we can always count on with Robinson is a goal-line fumble so we at least have that to look forward to.

MojoRisen
11/5/2008, 10:09 AM
I think we beat OSU 49-17 last year in norman... They maybe a little better but so are we - I know we can play with them and win...

Our d is starting to create a lot of turn overs- that is a lot better than stops and consider where our offense is getting the ball. We are beating teams 5-6minutes into the game- it is over and out...

We come out swinging and have a chance to blow both teams out...

A&M is improving - we need to keep that in mind- they gave Tech all they wanted at home 2 weeks ago...

That will be a good gauge on where we are at vs Tech...

Widescreen
11/5/2008, 10:22 AM
That will be a good gauge on where we are at vs Tech...

Maybe. NU took Tech to overtime and we blew out NU. That still doesn't make me feel a whole lot better about our game with Tech.

MojoRisen
11/5/2008, 10:35 AM
It is interesting- then they blow out Kansas bad... although Kansas may have been beat up from playing us..

We have 2 weeks to come up with a game plan to slow Tech down to 28 points or so... If we can do that - I think we can win 45-28 ish...

Okie St- I think is going to be closer to 35-28 ish... and close throught.

MI Sooner
11/5/2008, 12:58 PM
The OsU/OU game is simple...If OSU can keep total possessions for the entire game to somewhere around 10, they have a great chance. If they can run the ball, control the clock, they will have a shot just like at Texas. If it greatly above 10, they probably are not going to win a shootout. Now for the Tech game just switch OsU with OU and you got our way of controlling Tech, we have to use Murray and Brown to control the tempo of the game to our favor...

I think this is a surefire way to lose the game. We're better than TTU. We want to make sure we/they get as many chances as possible to prove it. If we try to run the ball and it's not gettting over 5 ypc pretty consistently, we have to give up and throw. We can't waste possessions trying to prove a point. We have to score 50.

OUmillenium
11/5/2008, 01:02 PM
Our defense is not that great on the road.

Our offensive scheming is VERY conservative for road games.

Therefore the 60-70 points we will need to beat OSUx will not be there IMO. Hope I am wrong.

JLEW1818
11/5/2008, 01:16 PM
Last game of conference won't hold anything back. Just imagine how determined our players will be.

SoonerinSouthlake
11/5/2008, 01:16 PM
this team can beat Texas Tech and Ok State with the way we play Defense ?

I see a lot of post here that look a lot more like wishful thinking than common sense !

The way we play Offense
TT at Home after playing TU and OSU
OSU is OSU

SoonersEnFuego
11/5/2008, 01:50 PM
we are "fans" and that is what "fans" do. If I thought OU would lose to everybody, I wouldn't even watch the games and wouldn't care. I'm sure you thought we would beat Texas. I'm sure you thought we would beat TT last year, and Colorado, and WV. Quit trying to get attention by posting what ESPN thinks and start being a fan.

So you're a bandwaggoner? ;)

OSUAggie
11/5/2008, 11:07 PM
Therefore the 60-70 points we will need to beat OSUx will not be there IMO. Hope I am wrong.

heh

The scoring isn't going to be that high in Stillwater (for either team).

35-28ish is about the type of game I expect, and I think it's probably a toss up as to who wins. I don't expect either team to come out throwing wild haymakers when so much will be on the line (in some form, because you guys are going to kick the holy **** out of Tech).

MiccoMacey
11/5/2008, 11:11 PM
Unfortunately, I think OSU pounds Tech as well.

This may be the first time I've rooted against OSU since I was a little kid.

XingTheRubicon
11/6/2008, 09:10 AM
Originally Posted by MiccoMacey

This may be the first time I've rooted against OSU since I was a little kid.

last Saturday for me

MiccoMacey
11/6/2008, 12:02 PM
last Saturday for me

You're always the trend-setter...I'm always the follower.