Yah...it's getting old, but I've got to post this:

[SoonerStormchaser]

Obama Plane Pitches Reporters From McCain-Endorsing Papers
Journalists from three major newspapers -- each having endorsed John McCain -- reportedly have been booted from the Barack Obama campaign plane for the final leg of the presidential campaign.

The Washington Times reported Friday that they were notified of the Obama campaign's decision Thursday evening -- even though the paper has covered Obama from the start.

"I hope the candidate that promises to unite America isn't using a litmus test to determine who gets to cover his campaign," Washington Times Executive Editor John Solomon said in the article

The New York Post and Dallas Morning News also have been kicked off Obama's plane, according to the Web site The Drudge Report.

The Washington Times has protested the campaign's decision.

Representatives from the Post and Morning News could not be reached immediately for comment.




And then there's this:
TG4fe9GlWS8

Ladies and gentlemen, our next President...

[soonerhubs]

I found this interesting.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5051118.ece


From The Times
October 31, 2008
Barack Obama lays plans to deaden expectation after election victory
Tim Reid in Washington

Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”.

The aide said that Mr Obama himself was the first to realise that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Mr Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq. “The first hundred days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference,” he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how “hard” it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

“I won’t stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy – especially now,” Mr Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing “the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq”. Mr Obama’s transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Mr Obama emerge victorious next week. The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.

Yet Mr Obama and his aides are under no illusions about the size of the challenges the Democrat will inherit if he enters the Oval Office. Tom Daschle, the party’s former leader in the US Senate and a strong contender for the post of White House chief-of-staff in an Obama administration, said last month that the winner next week would have only a 50 per cent chance of winning a second term in 2012.

Not only will the next president take office with the country sliding into a potentially long recession — and mired in debt — but the challenges abroad are immense. There is an unfinished war in Iraq, a worsening situation in Afghanistan and an unstable and nuclear-armed Pakistan to contend with. Iran appears intent on acquiring the bomb and there remains the ever-present threat from al-Qaeda and Islamic extremists.

If he wins, Mr Obama will inherit a Democratic-controlled Congress, and might even have the benefit of a 60-seat filibuster-proof “supermajority” in the Senate. Such a scenario would allow him to push through legislation largely unfettered by Republican opposition. Yet it also means that should the country still be mired in recession in three years’ time, voters — who have short memories — will probably blame him and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. Those stakes have led Mr Obama to conclude that while expectations need to be tempered, big things need to be achieved very early in his first term, when he will still have the political capital to achieve some of his most ambitious legislative goals.

Having promised “real” change, the pressure will be on him to deliver. In the Colorado interview, Mr Obama added: “The next president has got to come quickly out of the box.”

The early priorities being lined up if he takes power are a mixture of symbolism and substance. He plans to make a major address in a big Muslim country early in his first term. Having pledged on the campaign trail to close Guantanamo Bay, he is also determined to make early moves to rid America of the controversial prison. Yet what to do with the remaining inmates looms as an intractable problem, as many of their home governments refuse to allow them to return.

Mr Obama’s first legislative goals will be to follow through on his pledge to cut taxes for the middle class and raise them for the wealthiest Americans, and to push through a hugely expensive Bill to provide near-universal health insurance.

Let the back pedaling, lying, and reneging of sunshine begin.:rolleyes:

[sooneron]

Uh, what is wrong with managing expectations when they are unrealistic? You really have gone off the ledge along with some others on here.
Can a person/admin bring about some change in DC? Possibly, but all they can do is try. Look at what Bush has done. They changed a lot of stuff (pretty much ripped up the constitution, deregulation to the point of rough shod corporationism - you name it).

Do I think Obama will really change much as far as things are run? Very little. The system is too big. Did he make promises he can't keep? Yes every candidate does. So quit jumping up and down and doing the equivalent of shouting, "See he's a liar look! Look!!" it's pointless.
The ****ter that this country is in is going to require taking baby steps over the next couple of years to get out of it.

[soonerhubs]

Uh, what is wrong with managing expectations when they are unrealistic? You really have gone off the ledge along with some others on here.
Can a person/admin bring about some change in DC? Possibly, but all they can do is try. Look at what Bush has done. They changed a lot of stuff (pretty much ripped up the constitution, deregulation to the point of rough shod corporationism - you name it).

Do I think Obama will really change much as far as things are run? Very little. The system is too big. Did he make promises he can't keep? Yes every candidate does. So quit jumping up and down and doing the equivalent of shouting, "See he's a liar look! Look!!" it's pointless.
The ****ter that this country is in is going to require taking baby steps over the next couple of years to get out of it.

I'd suggest your closer to a ledge with your attacking my character. If you don't like me calling Obama (or his campaign) out for planning this before he even hits the Whitehouse, too bad! If that makes me some crazy right wing kook, fine. I think you're taking it personal.

[King Crimson]

some crazy right wing cook

?
:texan:

[soonerhubs]

?
:texan:

crazy right wing nut. Better? :D

[Dio]

crazy right wing nut. Better? :D

Does that work the same as a left wingnut?

[Dio]

Uh, what is wrong with managing expectations when they are unrealistic? You really have gone off the ledge along with some others on here.
Can a person/admin bring about some change in DC? Possibly, but all they can do is try. Look at what Bush has done. They changed a lot of stuff (pretty much ripped up the constitution, deregulation to the point of rough shod corporationism - you name it).

Do I think Obama will really change much as far as things are run? Very little. The system is too big. Did he make promises he can't keep? Yes every candidate does. So quit jumping up and down and doing the equivalent of shouting, "See he's a liar look! Look!!" it's pointless.
The ****ter that this country is in is going to require taking baby steps over the next couple of years to get out of it.

That's an interesting combination of statements in the same post.

[Oldnslo]

Righty tighty. Lefty loosey!

[sooneron]

That's an interesting combination of statements in the same post.

At which point is that a lie? Re: wiretapping, Cheney deciding what powers the VP holds etc.
Figuratively, they decided the constitution was sorta useless to them.

[sooneron]

I'd suggest your closer to a ledge with your attacking my character. If you don't like me calling Obama (or his campaign) out for planning this before he even hits the Whitehouse, too bad! If that makes me some crazy right wing kook, fine. I think you're taking it personal.

Where did I attack your character? Talk about taking it personal.:rolleyes:

And yet, you didn't address anything in my post about managing expectations. Shocked, I am.

[Pricetag]

If you don't like me calling Obama (or his campaign) out for planning this before he even hits the Whitehouse, too bad!
A healthy dose of proactivity is just what the doctor ordered for this country, I'm thinking.

[swardboy]

Back to the thread topic....actions speak louder than words, and one of the few actions we can glean from Obama's life is the fact that he will throw any news organization under the bus that seriously questions him. TV stations are banned from future interviews, national publications are thrown from his plane that don't endorse him. I believe the press's infatuation is going to turn under his presidency real quick IF he wins this election...they should be chilled by now.

[sooneron]

Back to the thread topic....actions speak louder than words, and one of the few actions we can glean from Obama's life is the fact that he will throw any news organization under the bus that seriously questions him. TV stations are banned from future interviews, national publications are thrown from his plane that don't endorse him. I believe the press's infatuation is going to turn under his presidency real quick IF he wins this election...they should be chilled by now.

NO WAY! Don't you read this board? The press is so blind that they will always heap adulation upon any Lib politician.

[soonerhubs]

Back to the thread topic....actions speak louder than words, and one of the few actions we can glean from Obama's life is the fact that he will throw any news organization under the bus that seriously questions him. TV stations are banned from future interviews, national publications are thrown from his plane that don't endorse him. I believe the press's infatuation is going to turn under his presidency real quick IF he wins this election...they should be chilled by now.

To be fair, and maybe shock Sooneron, :D I must say Bush has done the exact same thing to the media. I personally think the best at this was Bill Clinton. When he was wrong (Lewinski scandal aside) he would admit it. Look back at how he handled the PR debacle that was Waco. He admitted he was wrong. An honest transparent president who was willing to face scrutiny would be a refreshing change from the last decade or so.

Sooneron, I felt you were lumping me with folks who just post email forwards with invalid sources. I've seen those posts, and you seldom see me comment on such trivial rumors. I assumed. I apologize for my inflammatory remarks, because I let my irritation of the political season get the best of me.

Regarding your points about promises broken. I am still mad at Bush for some of the Big Government moves he has made. I felt betrayed, and I've vented a few times in the last couple months about it. Whether deregulation was good or bad? We'll never get a clear answer because I feel that we never got to the point of true deregulation.

I feel that Obama is bad for me and America, and the above article I cited was only a minuscule part of the reasons why. I distrust him. I distrust McCain less.

[JohnnyMack]

Let's find some info. about how much money John McCain gave Rashid Kalidi. That should be fun.

[mdklatt]

The New York Post and Dallas Morning News also have been kicked off Obama's plane, according to the Web site The Drudge Report.

More half-truths and innuendo from the Drudge Report. Shocking. :rolleyes:


http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/the-dallas-morning-news-and-th.html


It's true that our reporter, Todd J. Gillman, has been told that there's no space for him after Saturday.
...
But we don't have evidence that the newspaper's endorsement of Sen. McCain had any bearing on the campaign's decision to boot us from the plane.
...
We think the Obama campaign's decision is to some degree more a function of limited seats, and while we're a large regional newspaper, we're not national and we're not in a swing state. We've been on the road with them at key moments, but we've not been along for the entire ride, like, say, The New York Times and The Associated Press.

For what it's worth, we've had the same trouble with the McCain campaign. One of our reporters dropped off earlier this week when space became an issue, and we're only getting back on with McCain tomorrow for the final weekend because they, unlike the Obama campaign, are adding a second plane.

[Lott's Bandana]

"Neener" squared.

[mdklatt]

Back to the thread topic....actions speak louder than words, and one of the few actions we can glean from Obama's life is the fact that he will throw any news organization under the bus that seriously questions him.

Just like McCain, huh?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/31/uselections2008-barackobama1



The McCain campaign has had its own share of controversial ejections from its travelling media corps this year. Joe Klein of Time magazine and Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, both liberal-leaning columnists, have been barred from the McCain press circuit after publishing articles critical of the Republican nominee.