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JohnnyMack
10/13/2008, 01:38 PM
Sorry don't feel like reformatting this. I get about three of these kind of e-mails a week from certain members of my family. I'll see if I can find the Obama wants to change the national anthem to "I'd like to teach the world to sing" e-mail I got late last week.


I usually don't forward these type of emails, because they are generally unbelievable. I couldn't verify the validity of this email (fact or fiction.com or snopes.com), but I do believe the message of this email is valid. Please take time to read this long email and think about the message that it is presenting to America. We need to heed these words and Pray for this Election and that "GOD WILL BLESS AMERICA" again. If you don't have time to read it now, print it out and read it when time allows.... it is worth the read and well worth the effort our PRAYERS.



Tim



> Intercessors,

>

> I just finished a 15-minute conversation with Pastor Mark Arnold in

> Lebanon, Ohio who wrote the below account. This account is true. He > first

> sent this out to just a tiny handful of friends and relatives, never

> dreaming that, thanks to email, it would soon travel around the world. > As

> of

> 3:30 p.m. today, September 25, he's heard back from 49 states, 11

> nations,

> several major Christian ministries and news networks and is receiving

> 70-100

> emails an hour. He is refusing money from the news networks for the > story

> even though he's a "tent-maker" pastor of a little church

who works

> 50-hour

> weeks besides his church duties.

>

> You who know me well can only imagine the red flags that went up inside > of

> me because of this story getting so much publicity. So, I asked him what

> he

> felt the value was in letting this story go public. He said he is seeing

> people moved and coming out of the "caves" they've been in,

coming alive

> and

> realizing that they need to get back involved in the affairs of the > nation

> and not sleep through this season like the church did when they allowed

> prayer to be removed from schools. "God asked me if I would obey and

I

> did,"

> he said. "I was a "Mordecai for her (Sarah Palin); I did my

part. Now the

> church has to do their part."

>

> So, dear praying friends. Read the story below, be encouraged and get to

> work - on your knees, with your testimony and in the voting booth. And,

> whether you agree with the idea of this story going public to

> non-believers

> or not, it already has so please pray for protection for him as well as

> for

> John McCain and Sarah Palin.

>

> If you forward this on, please remove my email address. If people want > to

> contact me directly, they can do so through my web site given under my

> name.

> I don't open emails from people I don't know.

>

> ***********************************************

> And for anyone who needs to verify or confirm this story that follows,

> please Email me or call me

> at the following numbers:

>

> [email protected] (513) 291-0425

>

> Be Blessed!

>

> Pastor Mark Arnold (PLEASE READ ENTIRE STORY BELOW)

>

> This past Tuesday, the McCain / Palin Bus came through a little town

> called,

> Lebanon , Ohio . The LORD allowed me to go to the Rally giving them a

> message that He wanted me to personally deliver.

>

> Sunday Night - a burden hit me that would only shake me to my knees - I

> prayed and wept for our Nation. Never has my heart been so broken

> before God. I literally interceded for these wonderful people who do not

> deserve all the hate against them. The GOD-Haters are going to try

> everything to stop them, but they will not succeed!

>

> God is not pleased with the "bashing" in the News of this

"Anointed"

> person.

> He has called her for this time! I promised God that I would

> pray and hold them up in prayer. I would "listen" out and be

mindful of

> where they were. The following day is important in this

> time-line...because

> I didn't even know until God spoke to me...

>

> Monday and into Monday Night - the burden of prayer was so heavy that I

> was

> literally shaking and could not stop weeping. I didn't know that

> they were coming to Ohio . I prayed and walked and wept and walked. I

> prayed

> and prayed and wept and prayed...

>

> Tuesday at 2:00 A.M. - God spoke these words to me - "...Go turn the

Radio

> on!" Immediately the Reporter's Words were - "McCain &

Palin Bus

> to be in Lebanon later this morning for a 10:00 A.M. Rally!"

>

> Immediately on hearing that news, I heard God again...God said, "You

are

> to

> go. You will meet them and give them a message for Me!"

>

> I prayed as an intercessor and went to a place in prayer that I don't

> think

> I've ever been...because the LORD had just visited me...and I knew

> I was on a " Mission ." I had now been up since Sunday

NIght...and now

> it's

> Tuesday and I've got to go on the "WORD of the LORD." He

sure

> became My Strength as this unfolds...

>

> I didn't stop praying until I drove over to the town and parked the

car.

> The

> News would later report they were expecting 5,000 people and the

> actual head-count of those who had been scanned was more than 10,000

> people.

>

> I simply obeyed...and God actually told me where to stand, who to talk

> to...and when to be on the move. I had sure learned on the Mission

> Field, when God wants to open a door, He will do it at the appropriate

> time.

> He always has someone to assist...and even those standing beside

> you may just be an Angel.

>

> I struck up a conversation with an agent on the ground - he simply said,

> "I

> can't allow you to stand here!" Here is where the bus was going

to

> actually pull up to. They had to make a much larger perimeter so the

> entire

> area was now being moved back several blocks. The only other

> thing he told me to do was to go through the metal detector zone and > just

> watch from the back. So, that's what I did.

>

> Due to sensitivity of the Internet...I can't share much of the story

as to

> what happened next was a definite GOD THING ALL THE WAY.

>

> Looking over the shoulders and backs and heads of all those people...I

> knew

> it would take a miracle for what GOD told me to do.

>

> As I was standing there, two Boy Scouts came running up my

> back...literally,

> they almost knocked me to the ground because they were

> running so fast behind me...up my back and over to the right. These Boy

> Scouts were about Junior High Age. Their Scout Leader and several

> others were behind them...but as the two out front was trying to push

> through the crowd, saying they were late...the smaller scouts were left

> in their dust. The Scout Leader who was with a McCain Rep from the State

> grabbed me and told me bring the other Scouts up front as they try

> to keep up with the first two that just came through.

>

> I just became the leader of the rest of the Scouts to lead them right up

> front and center. As the Rep was shouting back at me...to bring the

> Scouts forward...the people parted just like God parted the Red Sea .

>

> I marched those boys right up front and to the right of the stage as one

> was

> looking from the back. When I got there I was fifteen feet from the

> podium. GOD said, "Stand here, and don't move from this

spot."

>

> Within five minutes...the bus pulled up and around the other side > McCain,

> Sarah Palin and her husband Todd stepped up and the speeches

> took off. I was where God placed me...and even Sarah Palin and Todd were

> standing on my side of the stage. I made eye contact, I gave them

> thumbs up gestures...and I knew they were just happy to see me standing

> there. Ha Ha

>

> When they came around the podium and started on the other side, I knew

> they

> were coming right toward me, a little lady who stood by me, reached

> up and told the Rep that they had promised a Picture with her because > she

> was the one who had lost a son in Iraq, recently. The Rep confirmed

> she would get a pic with them and they would talk to her. When McCain > came

> to hug her... he immdiately shook my hand and following his moment

> with her, I shook his hand as he grabbed my hand, now for the second > time,

> and I said, "God wants you to know that I'm praying for you,

Sir!"

> He thanked me and kept smiling. I repeated that phrase to him five > times.

> He

> grabbed my hands and looked right into my eyes and said, "I

> won't make it without prayer. Sir, Thank You for praying for me, and

don't

> let one day go by that you don't pray for me. I need all the

> prayers that I can get. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!"

>

> As he moved to my right, Sarah Palin, came over to my left > side...standing

> over the crowd and then looking at the little lady who

> had lost the son. It took a moment for her to shake some hands and > people

> were pushing in all around. Sarah came and got on her hands and

> knees on that side of the stage and hugged that little Mom, telling her,

> "...it was not in vain." She promised her support.

>

> It was at this moment Sarah Palin, reached out for me to help her up and

> as

> I was assisting her to stand I was now face to face with her and GOD

> said, "Open up your Mouth and I will fill it."

>

> Here is what came out...

>

> "God wants you to know that you are a present day Esther!"

>

> [She immediately began to cry]!

>

> "God wants to tell you that you are Chosen for such a time as

this!"

>

> "You are called, and chosen to be a leader."

>

> "Don't lose heart and don't fear man."

>

> "The news and nay-sayers and criticizers are going to be very hateful



> toward

> you... and in the days ahead they are going to turn up the

> heat...but do not fear."

>

> "You are a present day Esther." You are an Esther. You are an

Esther!

>

> "Keep your eyes on GOD and know that He has chosen you to

Reign!"

>

> "Stay strong...be strong...don't tire. Don't be weary in

well-doing.

> Be strong."

>

> Her husband Todd came over and I told him what I told her. He began to

> cry.

>

> I emphasized the fact that he was to guard her at this time...and know

> that

> "...she is GOD-CALLED and GOD-ANOINTED." "...this is a

GOD-THING

> and your wife is a Present day Esther...she is for God to use at this

> time...She is an Esther...she is an Esther...she is an Esther."

>

> "You will be hated...but stand strong...GOD has called both of you to

> stand!"

>

> "We are praying and I am praying for you...!"

>

> At this moment, McCain came right to where I was finishing talking to > Todd

> and I told Mr. McCain exactly what I told to Sarah and Todd Palin.

>

> "Mr. McCain, ...they are called of God and she is an Esther."

>

> "Don't lose hope and don't lose heart."

>

> "We are praying for all of you!"

>

> He shook my hand and with a deep look of understanding what I had just

> said,

> he said, "Thank you for your prayers and support...I really do

> mean that!"

>

> And he turned and shook more hands...and I watched them as they went

> through

> the crowd.

>

> When I got to my car I sat there for quite a long time...knowing the GOD

> of

> the Universe had just used me to deliver a message confirming to

> Sarah and Todd to realize they are truly chosen vessels of God.

>

> I wept. I have not stopped praying and crying. My heart is full knowing

> they

> had to have all the staging and all the hype and all the

> crowd...but the GOD of Heaven and Earth...wanted to give them a

> Divine-God-Appointment!

>

> To God be all the GLORY and HONOR.

>

> If anyone wants to know if I believe God can speak. Yes...Absolutely, is

> my

> Answer!

>

> Be praying for me...and let me know what you think about all of this.

>

> Pastor Mark Arnold

> [email protected]

mdklatt
10/13/2008, 01:42 PM
I usually don't forward these type of emails, because they are generally unbelievable. I couldn't verify the validity of this email (fact or fiction.com or snopes.com), but I do believe the message of this email is valid.

EPIC FAIL of logic = ^^^^^

yermom
10/13/2008, 02:00 PM
EPIC FAIL of logic = ^^^^^

this surprises you? ;)

soonerscuba
10/13/2008, 02:41 PM
You know what would truly be a miracle? Palin answering a question in regards to policy without falling back on one-liners.

First Bush, and now Palin? God really sucks *** at picking human vessels in which to do his will.

lexsooner
10/13/2008, 02:45 PM
Was that bag lady at the McCain rally who called Obama an "Arab" part of all of this?

Veritas
10/13/2008, 02:49 PM
I get this kind of crap from my family, in fact I had just cut and pasted in the craziest one when I looked closer and realized it was the same thing Mack had posted.

The religious right is every bit as annoying as the Obamaniacs.

JohnnyMack
10/13/2008, 02:50 PM
You're not so good at teh innernets, are you?

soonerscuba
10/13/2008, 02:50 PM
And like clockwork all the Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists are praying for Obama victory because God's ego is at stake in this election.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-ral.html

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=9170659&nav=menu50_2

soonerscuba
10/13/2008, 02:52 PM
The religious right is every bit as annoying as the Obamaniacs.Do you consider an Obamaniac anybody who votes for him, or just the ones that make posters with halos and compare him to Christ?

Veritas
10/13/2008, 02:53 PM
Do you consider an Obamaniac anybody who votes for him, or just the ones that make posters with halos and compare him to Christ?
Of course not just anyone who votes for him. I'm referencing the people who are super-passionate about him but when asked can't provide a reason beyond his speaking ability and charisma.

JohnnyMack
10/13/2008, 02:54 PM
Do you consider an Obamaniac anybody who votes for him, or just the ones that make posters with halos and compare him to Christ?

I gave myself the Obamata which is a hybrid of the Stigmata and bat**** crazy passion for Obama. I simply jammed two yard signs through my palms and walk around mumbling crazy things and bleeding all over everything.

Veritas
10/13/2008, 02:56 PM
You're not so good at teh innernets, are you?
The crazy thing is that I read through half of yours and thought "oh, this one is different, I'm going to find that crazy one from Mom." So the bat**** insane crap that landed in both our inboxes was prefaced by two different rambling bits of lunacy.

royalfan5
10/13/2008, 03:00 PM
All my family ever sends me are emails about sports and farming. I feel left out.

Veritas
10/13/2008, 03:03 PM
Here's another one I got from the fam:

Dear Friends and Family,
I believe Sean Hannity was an American HERO last night (11 pm CST) when he hosted a one-hour, very well-documented, no-nonsense EXPOSE “Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism” on his new show, "Hannity's America." Finally, many of the puzzle pieces are put together! Below is a link with the entire program in 6 parts...
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/hannity-barack-obama-friends-history-of-radicalism/

Just prior to Hannity was the 2nd week of a really excellent new weekly Fox show: "Huckabee" 10 pm CST.
Here’s the link for a clip from the first program a week ago…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0DxXLyQDEg&feature=related

Keep praying! GOD IS GREATER!

Matt 5:11-12
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I mean, I'm down with exposing Obama's questionable associations, but hero...I mean HERO?

mdklatt
10/13/2008, 03:10 PM
And like clockwork all the Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists are praying for Obama victory because God's ego is at stake in this election.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/10/john-mccain-ral.html

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=9170659&nav=menu50_2


Wow. Just wow.



I would also pray Lord that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their God -- whether it's Hindu, Buddha, Allah -- that his [McCain’s] opponent wins for a variety of reasons.

Okay, I'm fairly sure that Buddhists don't actually pray to Buddha, and "Hindu" is a not a god either. And Allah is God. Idiot. I guess I was spoiled by being raised quasi-Catholic, because I always assumed that clergy actually had to know something about religion. Some Protestant churches apparently have looser standards.



And Lord I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens.

So if McCain loses is this guy going to switch allegieance to a "better" god? Typical bandwagon fan. :rolleyes:

Williesan
10/13/2008, 07:14 PM
JohnnyMack, I told my Aunt to quit sending this stuff to you. ;)

Then again, for each one you get, I get 3-5 of these a day from her. She obviously hasn't listened... or won't. :mad:

Williesan

Rogue
10/13/2008, 07:24 PM
I'm amazed at the people who still forward these to me.
I still have fun with the "REPLY TO ALL" deal, and the traffic is a little less.

Veritas
10/13/2008, 07:27 PM
I'm amazed at the people who still forward these to me.
I'm amazed that anyone would read that and think anything other than "that Mark Arnold guy is bat**** crazy."

And he's a big fat liar. Sarah and Todd Palin start crying because somebody drops, "you're an Esther." How stupid do you have to be to believe that.

lexsooner
10/13/2008, 07:36 PM
Wow. Just wow.




Okay, I'm fairly sure that Buddhists don't actually pray to Buddha, and "Hindu" is a not a god either. And Allah is God. Idiot. I guess I was spoiled by being raised quasi-Catholic, because I always assumed that clergy actually had to know something about religion. Some Protestant churches apparently have looser standards.




So if McCain loses is this guy going to switch allegieance to a "better" god? Typical bandwagon fan. :rolleyes:

The creators of this e-mail are probably Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker-PTL Club types, who have limited educational backgrounds. Buddhism and Hinduism are not monotheistic religions, if I am not mistaken. Believers do not pray to a single "God" entity like Christians or Muslims. The "us vs. them people" message of this e-mail chain is created out of pure ignorance. I got one of those Obama is a Muslim chain e-mails from an old lady I knew from my former church. She is a sweet old lady, but like many is easily duped by these messages.

Fortunately, from what I have read, the religious right (evangelical Protestants) which was so influential in the past two elections, has now dwindled in power. Younger evangelicals are more likely to be better-educated and have more progressive views and not necessarily blindly support a candidate just based on abortion/gay rights views, or stuff contained in the e-mail in question.

Frozen Sooner
10/13/2008, 07:41 PM
I generally pray to Secular Human every night.

lexsooner
10/13/2008, 07:52 PM
I'm amazed that anyone would read that and think anything other than "that Mark Arnold guy is bat**** crazy."

And he's a big fat liar. Sarah and Todd Palin start crying because somebody drops, "you're an Esther." How stupid do you have to be to believe that.

Most of these religious e-mails contain fictional tales which are often presented as real life stories, and a call to forward the e-mails to others. I get them from time to time.

Maybe this e-mail has a seed of truth. Maybe the person went up to Sarah Palin and said "You're like that Jew and Iranian!" instead of "You're an Esther!" And Sarah and Todd started crying, since this was a horrific insult to right wing evangelical Christian Alaskans. And then Todd recovered and reared back with his steel-toed Alaskan work boot and kicked the guy into the side of his F-150. :) Now you have the rest of the story . . . . .

mdklatt
10/13/2008, 07:53 PM
WTF is an "Esther"? :confused:

soonerscuba
10/13/2008, 08:36 PM
Fortunately, from what I have read, the religious right (evangelical Protestants) which was so influential in the past two elections, has now dwindled in power. Younger evangelicals are more likely to be better-educated and have more progressive views and not necessarily blindly support a candidate just based on abortion/gay rights views, or stuff contained in the e-mail in question.There is a large segment of the Christian youth that exists as any other youth in this country, they probably know gay people, they probably care about the environment, and at this point they probably hold on to a devotion of service to the poor which is pushing them in a Democratic direction. Granted, abortion and decades of social conditioning will probably put them in the Republican party when it's all said and done. I hold to the hope that the days of the "useful idiot" are over for the Republicans as it gave us Pat Robertson and W.

VeeJay
10/13/2008, 08:58 PM
I thought Madonna claimed to be "Esther" from her Kabbalah adventure.

lexsooner
10/13/2008, 09:13 PM
WTF is an "Esther"? :confused:

Esther is a Biblical figure from the Old Testament. She was born a poor Jew, but grew up to be Queen of Persia and she saved the Jews from the evil empire of King Xerxes. The bogus e-mail story tells of a supporter who informs Palin she is an Esther, meaning she was born a Christian of common stock and supporters hope she become VP so she can save this Christian nation from destruction by the evil empire of that no good Communist colored man Obama and his heathen supporters, because only them colored foreigners support Obama, as opposed to good, God-fearing, hard-working, clean-living white people who love Sarah and McCain. Forward this e-mail and pass the Wonder bread.

TheHumanAlphabet
10/14/2008, 06:36 AM
Was that bag lady at the McCain rally who called Obama an "Arab" part of all of this?

People like this are the ones that give those of us ideologically against Oblahma a bad name.

StoopTroup
10/14/2008, 08:45 AM
God sent them Bill Gates so they could copy and paste.

LosAngelesSooner
10/14/2008, 12:52 PM
kjNfbcB3OrE

JohnnyMack
10/14/2008, 12:53 PM
LAS sucks at teh innernets.

kjNfbcB3OrE

KC//CRIMSON
10/14/2008, 12:58 PM
In other news, Larry Flynt is making a new movie titled "Nailin' Palin"


True story.

LosAngelesSooner
10/14/2008, 01:04 PM
LAS sucks at teh innernets.

kjNfbcB3OrEI had it fixed, thankyouvurrymuch. :D

StoopTroup
10/14/2008, 01:06 PM
You should post that in it's own thread....

NOT!

LosAngelesSooner
10/14/2008, 01:08 PM
You should post that in it's own thread....

NOT!TOO LATE, BEEETCHES!!!!!