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jkjsooner
10/12/2008, 06:49 PM
I've been looking a little closer into McCain's claims that he warned us about Fannie and Freddie a couple of years ago.

It is true that McCain and Bush did warn us and that many democrats blocked some regulation attempts on the GSE's. However, the context of these warnings is very different than what is implied.

The warnings were in response to irregularities in the financial statements of the GSE's. No doubt the warnings and regulation calls were appropriate and no doubt that Dodd/Frank and the gang - due to heavy lobbying - fought these attempts.

But these financial irregularities have little or nothing to do with our current financial crisis. At the time we did not have falling housing prices which, while inevitable, were not predicted by Bush or McCain. This is the root of the current crisis. General accounting problems at the GSE's years ago have absolutely nothing to do with our current situation.

Our current crisis extends way beyond the GSE's and Bush and McCain showed no interest in regulating the various other parties involved in this fiasco. They had no interest in controlling predatory lenders. They had, and still have, no interest in going after those house buyers (probably the majority on stated income loans) who filed fraudulent applications. They had not interest in controlling the over-leveraged orgy of Wall Street.

McCain did warn us but he in no way warned us about the root cause of this crisis. Any attempt to say so is at best misleading and at worst an outright lie.

Footnote: My point isn't to say Obama or Democrats are better. I just want to point out that they are all corrupt / ignorant and guilty.

Widescreen
10/12/2008, 06:55 PM
I wonder if shining light on this would've exposed more of the nonsense. Unfortunately we'll never know because of the democrats (and I'm sure other corrupt types) standing in the way.

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/12/2008, 07:15 PM
JKJ, does your personal revelation mean that you now see what a Commie Obama is? If so, does that appeal to you?

StoopTroup
10/12/2008, 07:25 PM
JKJ, does your personal revelation mean that you now see what a Commie Obama is? If so, does that appeal to you?

Every time one of you use degrading and hateful name calling...it hurts your candidate.

Folks want a winner...

Doing what your doing is deplorable IMO.

I get emails on a daily basis from some of my relatives who forward crap like this.

I pray for them...

I can't figure out whether they think it's funny or if they think it's just what needs to be emailed to win. Either way...I hope it stops soon. If it doesn't...I'll keep scanning until this election is over...

RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
10/12/2008, 07:30 PM
Every time one of you use degrading and hateful name calling...it hurts your candidate.

Folks want a winner...

Doing what your doing is deplorable IMO.

I get emails on a daily basis from some of my relatives who forward crap like this.

I pray for them...

I can't figure out whether they think it's funny or if they think it's just what needs to be emailed to win. Either way...I hope it stops soon. If it doesn't...I'll keep scanning until this election is over...Would you prefer Socialist?

StoopTroup
10/12/2008, 07:31 PM
How about Candidate.

jkjsooner
10/12/2008, 09:43 PM
JKJ, does your personal revelation mean that you now see what a Commie Obama is? If so, does that appeal to you?

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I just posted.

I was ready to vote for McCain until he started spouting off crap like using public money to "put a floor under housing prices." The biggest issue where I thought we needed a conservative and McCain turned into the Commie you always refer to.

McCain and Bush are both trying to retroactively say that they were the ones who wanted the industry regulated, but in reality they only wanted the GSE's regulated and that was based more on a distrust of the GSE's (being sort of govt) than on a general principal that the industry had become out-of-control.

Bush failed in his job as head of the executive branch. It was less about signing or not signing laws and it was more about his administration of the of the departments that were already empowered to regulate.

Frankly, I would bet Bush would repeal insider trading and market manipulation laws if he could. The guy is so damn crazy that he thinks capitalism should be nothing but a free-for-all. That's why I find his pretending to be for regulation to be so disingenuous.

jkjsooner
10/12/2008, 10:21 PM
I just found the following. This pretty much sums up my thoughts on this matter.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/sep/17/mccains-warning-fannie-and-freddie/

And, for the record, I developed my thoughts on this matter independently. Only now did I discover others have looked into this and come to the same conclusions.