R.I.P., TRRW

[The Maestro]

Man, watching Roy get burned on a deep ball...again...tonight...made me a little sad.

The guy was a college freak. A great few first years. But now he has linebacker speed and he is trying to play safety. It ain't happening when a rookie like Jackson blows by him...AND then proceeds to drop the ball before crossing the goal line!

The average lifespan of an NFL player is 4 years. Roy is just about done. And that is just sad to me. Greatest OU defensive player I ever witnessed...since Leroy Selmon was when I was about three, four and five.

Class act, nonetheless...and has taken his new role in stride. Just sad to see someone so great unable to keep up anymore.

Oh, well...he still has caused more touchdowns in OU-Texas history than the other RW.

[olevetonahill]

I heard he was out of the Game . Is because of his Play or was he Injured?

[Curly Bill]

I heard he was out of the Game . Is because of his Play or was he Injured?

Injured but I don't know what it was.

[Curly Bill]

now he has linebacker speed and he is trying to play safety.

Yup.

[The Maestro]

Injured but I don't know what it was.

Ego or dignity. MRI hasn't determined which yet.

It was an obvious running situation...so Roy was in...and they threw a bomb right by him. But the cocky SOB rookie DeShawn Jackson dropped the ball in celebration before crossing the goal line and they gave it to Philly at the 1 since they blew the whistle. NFL refs and whistles...STOP!!!

College football >>>>>>> NFL football

[IronHorseSooner]

They play a 3-4 there. Why not move him to OLB? Again, I'm not a defensive genius.

[Curly Bill]

Hows about the interference call where the Eagle receiver pulled the DB into him and got an interference call? Yup, NFL officials suck hard.

[Curly Bill]

They play a 3-4 there. Why not move him to OLB? Again, I'm not a defensive genius.

Not big enough. OLB's in a 3-4 are basically defensive ends. Just the type of DE's that can run like hell.

[The Maestro]

Hows about the interference call where the Eagle receiver pulled the DB into him and got an interference call? Yup, NFL officials suck hard.

I used to work out at the same gym as Ed Hochuli...the infamous ref from the Denver-San Diego game yesterday. Donovan McNabb worked out there, too.

They can both suck it...and bench press more than me.

Bastards!

Gin = good!

[Curly Bill]

I used to work out at the same gym as Ed Hochuli...the infamous ref from the Denver-San Diego game yesterday. Donovan McNabb worked out there, too.

They can both suck it...and bench press more than me.

Bastards!

Gin = good!

:D heh

[olevetonahill]

Hows about the interference call where the Eagle receiver pulled the DB into him and got an interference call? Yup, NFL officials suck hard.

Ya mean Pac 10 officials > NFL officials ? :rolleyes:

[Curly Bill]

Ya mean Pac 10 officials > NFL officials ? :rolleyes:

That might be going a bit far. :D

[CK Sooner]

Ya mean Pac 10 officials > NFL officials ? :rolleyes:

CK Sooner > OleVet

:D

[Getem]

This thread is useless without spek

[TMcGee86]

Just heard that it's a broken forearm and he's out for the year.


I really wont be surprised if he retires.

I loooooooooove him. But i just dont think his heart is in football anymore. He's moved on to bigger and better things.

[starclassic tama]

like what?

[Widescreen]

3/4 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Roy Williams.

I miss those days.

[Paperclip]

It ain't happening when a rookie like Jackson blows by him...AND then proceeds to drop the ball before crossing the goal line!

Who does he think he is, Antwone Savage?

[olevetonahill]

like what?

God things ya ****in dipwad .:rolleyes:

[colleyvillesooner]

That one was n Pacman as much as Roy. Whole team got lit up tonight.

Last I heard on Cowboys post game was fractured forearm, not broken, and nothing about being out for the year.

Not sayng you are wrong, just what I heard 10 min ago.

[TMcGee86]

yeah JT the brick said it on the radio.

I think he was jumping to conclusions.

[olevetonahill]

That one was n Pacman as much as Roy. Whole team got lit up tonight.

Last I heard on Cowboys post game was fractured forearm, not broken, and nothing about being out for the year.

Not sayng you are wrong, just what I heard 10 min ago.

so Put a soft Cast on it and Hes good to Go ?

[boomersooner28]

1st half, TRRW was playing and Philly scored 30 points.
2nd half, no TRRW and Philly scores 7 points.


Just sayin.


I love the guy more than anything, BUT he is a liability in the secondary and every opponent of the Dallas Cowboys knows it.

[OKC-SLC]

That one was n Pacman as much as Roy. Whole team got lit up tonight.

Last I heard on Cowboys post game was fractured forearm, not broken, and nothing about being out for the year.

Not sayng you are wrong, just what I heard 10 min ago.

fractured = broken.

One of the biggest misconceptions in medicine. I think it stems from the fact that sometimes you can have a 'hairline fracture' which is not clinically the same as breaking the bone in two. We just don't call it a 'hairline break'. But they're both a fracture. Just like when the bone breaks through the skin all nasty, we call it a 'compound fracture'.

That said, I've also heard nothing about him being out the rest of the year.

[Blue]

I didn't see him out there. There was a #31, but it was a rookie.

[OKC-SLC]

I didn't see him out there. There was a #31, but it was a rookie.

he's wearing 38 now.

[Blue]

aahhh.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I doubt TRRW could have EVER kept up with DeSean Jackson, who has world-class speed.

[boomersooner28]

I didn't see him out there. There was a #31, but it was a rookie.



He was the guy 5 yards behind Desean Jackson when he caught the long "TD."

;)

[fossil]

like what?

;) Queen Latifa!!!!!

[BigRedJed]

I think Roy would benefit from a trade at this point. That scheme just doesn't play to his strengths, exposes his weaknesses, and otherwise the Cowboys are rolling. I don't think they're going to tear down and rebuild their team around him the way they did a few years ago.

[UberSooner]

The NFL has a lot of safteys that get burned deep when they get one on one. He's a running situation and blitz package saftey. Who else would you want for that set up?

[StoopTroup]

Roy definitely blew it on the play with Jackson.

Starting a RIP thread about him over his play against the Eagles prior to Phil pulling SPEK would have gotten you negged off this board.

I can understand you thinking he might have lost a step or isn't what he used to be...

ST

[GrapevineSooner]

2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Roy Williams.

I miss those days.

Hate to be nit picky but...

Fixed. ;)

And I miss those days, too. Even miss his rookie days with the Cowboys.

To be sure, I agree with CVS that Adam "Don't call me Pacman" Jones was as much to blame for the blown coverage as Roy was.

And oh yeah, if you're not 100% sure of the call, ref, let the play continue and THEN make a ruling on the play. That way, replay can correct you if you're wrong.

[85sooners]

roy williams will knock your block off!!!!

[The Maestro]

Starting a RIP thread about him over his play against the Eagles prior to Phil pulling SPEK would have gotten you negged off this board.

I can understand you thinking he might have lost a step or isn't what he used to be...

If this gets me kicked off thus board or even yellow carded..so be it....

Your a classless idiot.

ST


Wow...context, people...context! I am happy to report TRRW is alive and well for Stooper Trooper. There?

OH, NO!!! NOT NEG SPEK!!! See, I do this thing called sex so somebody's opinion on a message board doesn't really matter to me. I never played Dungeons and Dragons, watched Harry Potter or gave two healthy dumps about spek, good or bad.

Sorry you take everything literal. Work on that.

[bosworthsteroidmafia]

OH, NO!!! NOT NEG SPEK!!! See, I do this thing called sex so somebody's opinion on a message board doesn't really matter to me. I never played Dungeons and Dragons, watched Harry Potter or gave two healthy dumps about spek, good or bad.



:pop:

You mind if I use that as my signature?

[The Maestro]

:pop:

You mind if I use that as my signature?

Feel free. I've got nothing against it...I know a lot of people cared about it.

Just not my thing. I am 37, married, two boys and just found out today another boy on the way. I'm on here to talk OU football and sometimes other things since there are so many witty folks on here. But Johnny Message Board's opinion is less significant than a zit on my ***.

A big juicy one.

[My Opinion Matters]

OH, NO!!! NOT NEG SPEK!!! See, I do this thing called sex so somebody's opinion on a message board doesn't really matter to me.



Folks like you = why I drink

Heh.

[The Maestro]

Heh.

Wow...aren't you full of yourself. You went back and chased all that down...for what?

It wasn't your opinion that bothered me. It was because you aren't so bright. Lack of comprehension bothers me.

BIG difference. Again with the lack of comprehension.

Now go tell someone what a message board stud you are. Maybe someone will add you as a myspace friend for that.

[MiccoMacey]

Ken Hamlin just said he broke it on a special teams play.

[StoopTroup]

Wow...context, people...context! I am happy to report TRRW is alive and well for Stooper Trooper. There?

OH, NO!!! NOT NEG SPEK!!! See, I do this thing called sex so somebody's opinion on a message board doesn't really matter to me. I never played Dungeons and Dragons, watched Harry Potter or gave two healthy dumps about spek, good or bad.

Sorry you take everything literal. Work on that.

I didn't think you meant he was dead.

I'm upset because you folks act like he's some sort of Brett Farve who ought to go sit in his wheelchair and die.

Since Bob Stoops came to Norman...we have been blessed with all sorts of good fortune and witness to many great players who moved on to have Pro careers. Roy is one of the greatest to do so. Kelly Gregg is another. Others have made it and had short careers and some have comeback after injuries when others have not.

The thing is...these guys from 2000's MNC Squad were all just honored at halftime this year and deservedly so IMO.

Guys like Roy will always be Sooners and they command more respect than what you posted about him.

That goes for every poster that responded negatively IMO.

Boomer Sooner ! ! !

TRRW will live forever in my Crimson Heart.

[Lott's Bandana]

"...less significant than a zit on my ***.

A big juicy one.

Do you still get sex then?

:pop:

[Sooner04]

Commanding respect for time as a Sooner is one thing, but pointing out someone is playing like dog crap when they're getting paid MILLIONS of dollars is another.

Roy was one of the greatest defenders to play at OU. In the grand scheme of things for the Cowboys, he's been pretty-darned lousy in Dallas. I know he's made a few Pro Bowls but, c'mon, if you're watching the games you know who opposing OCs are going after when the chips are down.

[The Maestro]

I'm upset because you folks act like he's some sort of Brett Farve who ought to go sit in his wheelchair and die.


Well, I never said anything like that. If Roy wants to move out to Phoenix and be my golf buddy for the rest of his days that is just fine with me. Roy is a great person from what I have read and he will be very successful off the field, as he ONCE WAS on it. He is a great representative of the OU program and the kind of player we want to produce.

Josh, Roy, Tommie, Jason, Adrian and Sam.

Sure beats Ricky, Cedric and Vince.

[Johnny Utah]

Feel free. I've got nothing against it...I know a lot of people cared about it.

Just not my thing. I am 37, married, two boys and just found out today another boy on the way. I'm on here to talk OU football and sometimes other things since there are so many witty folks on here. But Johnny Message Board's opinion is less significant than a zit on my ***.

A big juicy one.

Whew ... thought you were talking about me for a sec.

3 boys here too ... contrats and good luck!

[HateTheWhorns]

Man, watching Roy get burned on a deep ball...again...tonight...made me a little sad.

The guy was a college freak. A great few first years. But now he has linebacker speed and he is trying to play safety. It ain't happening when a rookie like Jackson blows by him...AND then proceeds to drop the ball before crossing the goal line!

The average lifespan of an NFL player is 4 years. Roy is just about done. And that is just sad to me. Greatest OU defensive player I ever witnessed...since Leroy Selmon was when I was about three, four and five.

Class act, nonetheless...and has taken his new role in stride. Just sad to see someone so great unable to keep up anymore.

Oh, well...he still has caused more touchdowns in OU-Texas history than the other RW.


According to Wade Phillips in today's PC, the receiver that broke deep was not Roy's responsibility. It was PacMan Jones' responsibility. Roy had the underneath assignment, but tried to chase the play when he saw PacMan getting beat. I guess we could blame it on Bush.

[starclassic tama]

spek is about the lamest thing i have ever seen... getting rid of it just may have saved this board from nickzepp nerd land.



Guys like Roy will always be Sooners and they command more respect than what you posted about him.

That goes for every poster that responded negatively IMO.

Boomer Sooner ! ! !

TRRW will live forever in my Crinson Heart.


how does his OU career have anything to do with getting roasted on a 9 route in the NFL? it's not "disrespectful" to talk about the facts of what happens between the lines on a football field.

[stoopified]

I think the runors of TRRW demise are greatly exaggerated.Roy is a smart player and a hard worker.I'm betting he has a couple og Pro-Bowl years left.All safeties get beat from time to time and Roy more than most BUT he is still great as run stopper.I think hard work can turn him around and I KNOW Roy is NOT afraid of hard work. Roy is the flip side of Deon Sanders in that everyone criticized Deon's ability(and desire) to tackle while everyone critcizes Roy for lack of coverage skills.Roy has NEVER been more than average as a cover guy.He is and has always been great at the point of attack.

[Big Red Ron]

Roy getting disrespected for chasing a player that was someone else's man is weak.

I swear, some of you people have no idea what you are talking about.

You know what a CB is? Guess who's man that was?

Roy wasn't "beat" on the play, he was closer than the man responsible for him (Jones) but hey, let's slam Roy and give "Adam" a pass.:rolleyes:

[primetime43]

I wish the Cowboys would use him more at the line of scrimmage. I never once saw him blitz last night. Roy is at his best when he is attacking downhill not chasing wide outs and tight ends. It seems the last few years he hasn't been as aggressive but I did notice last night he was really trying to lay the wood on a few eagles especially the play where he broke his forearm. That is a good sign.

Btw for all you haters out there -if any safety got burned last night it was Brian Dawkins!

[MiccoMacey]

I think it's funny how someone is "finished, over, kaput" because they have a flaw in their game. Like a DC can't cheme and get his players in position if they aren't all perfect.

I got news for you who think Roy stinks...all NFL players have a weakness. His gets exploited some (like everyone else does), and now everyone thinks that every deep ball was his blown coverage.

He's still a darn good football player, regardless of his weakness, regardless of where he played his college ball.

[Blue]

Send him to New Orleans, PLEASE! :D

[bluedogok]

For future reference since Roy changed numbers this year and some don't seem to realize it.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/Jenkins_Mike_150.jpg
31
Jenkins, Mike (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=A575E302-E232-A538-C6CD423B440DBA24)
Cornerback
Height: 5-11
Weight: 197
College: South Florida
Years: R

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/Williams_Roy_150.jpg
38
Williams, Roy (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=457CE26E-0394-1C69-8CC5D48788478822)
Safety
Height: 6-0
Weight: 225
College: Oklahoma
Years: 7

About the injury....

NFL.com - Cowboys’ Williams fractures forearm, will miss at least four weeks (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80adaa22&template=with-video&confirm=true)
Posted: 18 hours 22 minutes ago
Associated Press

IRVING, Texas -- Cowboys safety Roy Williams fractured his right forearm while making a special teams tackle in Dallas' 41-37 victory over Philadelphia on Monday night. The five-time Pro Bowl selection could miss at least three games.

Williams was hurt when he and Keith Davis combined to hit Eagles return man Quintin Demps during a kickoff. The safety went to the sideline and was escorted to the locker room a few plays later.

Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten played through a separated shoulder that forced him to the locker room in the first half. But in the fourth quarter, Witten had a 32-yard catch to the Eagles 5 that set up Marion Barber's 1-yard go-ahead TD run.

"Little shoulder pops out and that's nothing," Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens said. "It just shows you how tough the guy is."

Witten, who finished with seven catches for 110 yards, will be re-evaluated Tuesday.

Backup Patrick Watkins took Williams' place in the defensive backfield and was called for a key face mask penalty on the final play of the third quarter. Two plays later, Brian Westbrook scored on a 1-yard run to put the Eagles up 37-31.

[tulsaoilerfan]

It's amazing how some people seem to think that every TD Dallas gives up is Roy's fault; i'm glad a few of you actually understand the game; do you really think that any safety in the NFL is going to cover a 4.3 WR in single coverage on a deep pass? Do you actually think that there is a safety in the league that CAN cover one one one deep? There's a reason these guys are safeties, and it's not for their coverage skills; get a clue

[Blue]

For future reference since Roy changed numbers this year and some don't seem to realize it.
.


Yeah we figured it out. Read the whole thread.

[olevetonahill]

spek is about the lamest thing i have ever seen... getting rid of it just may have saved this board from nickzepp nerd land.



how does his OU career have anything to do with getting roasted on a 9 route in the NFL? it's not "disrespectful" to talk about the facts of what happens between the lines on a football field.

And we Give a shat about an aggies Opinion On OUR board :mad:
**** off dip **** .

[olevetonahill]

Roy getting disrespected for chasing a player that was someone else's man is weak.

I swear, some of you people have no idea what you are talking about.

You know what a CB is? Guess who's man that was?

Roy wasn't "beat" on the play, he was closer than the man responsible for him (Jones) but hey, let's slam Roy and give "Adam" a pass.:rolleyes:

Spek

[StormySooner-IN]

And we Give a shat about an aggies Opinion On OUR board :mad:
**** off dip **** .Spek.

[olevetonahill]

Oh and If we ever Get Spek I since a whole Lot of red headin a few Folks way
Just sayin
And to you that could Care less about spek
Turn it the **** Off instead of bitchin :rolleyes:
Just sayin

[olevetonahill]

Wow...aren't you full of yourself. You went back and chased all that down...for what?

It wasn't your opinion that bothered me. It was because you aren't so bright. Lack of comprehension bothers me.

BIG difference. Again with the lack of comprehension.

Now go tell someone what a message board stud you are. Maybe someone will add you as a myspace friend for that.

Excuse Me , But Bro you wernt this Mouthy when we Had spek . I wonder why ? If you dont care abot it one way or the Other why didnt you turn It off ?:rolleyes:

[Curly Bill]

Seems to me the ones so glad SPEK is gone were the ones often getting negged for being tards.

[colleyvillesooner]

are we really still complaining about spek?

[Curly Bill]

are we really still complaining about spek?

Complaining about it got it eliminated. Why couldn't complaining about it being eliminated bring it back? ;)

[olevetonahill]

Complaining about it got it eliminated. Why couldn't complaining about it being eliminated bring it back? ;)

Post reported ;)

[colleyvillesooner]

Complaining about it got it eliminated. Why couldn't complaining about it being eliminated bring it back? ;)

Why not complain like those that did against it, behind the scenes...

[Curly Bill]

Why not complain like those that did against it, behind the scenes...

Who's to say that hasn't been going on too? ;)

[Curly Bill]

Post reported ;)

Right back at ya! :D

...seriously. ;)

[olevetonahill]

Why not complain like those that did against it, behind the scenes...

seems Like the squeky wheel Gets the Grease .
Bro when 85 % want it back Thats Kinda sayin something aint it ?

[olevetonahill]

Right back at ya! :D

...seriously. ;)

you Bastage Im gonna spek ya again .

[Curly Bill]

you Bastage Im gonna spek ya again .

If you do I'll be forced to retaliate! :D

[olevetonahill]

If you do I'll be forced to retaliate! :D

I did I did . I said If Ya cant read the spek Comment fer some reason
That Iwish youd reconsider and return as a Sponsor :P

[Curly Bill]

I did I did . I said If Ya cant read the spek Comment fer some reason
That Iwish youd reconsider and return as a Sponsor :P

I'm more then willing...if my conditions are met. :D

[olevetonahill]

I'm more then willing...if my conditions are met. :D

spek again Bitch .:P

[tulsaoilerfan]

What was this thread about? :)

[Curly Bill]

What was this thread about? :)

Your Mom!

ba-dum, crash :D

[colleyvillesooner]

What was this thread about? :)

Imaginary green and red points that people need to fully enhance their nerdy experience here...

If I was really against it, I'm just trying to think of how I would tell my pregnant wife that the reason I am pissed off is cause my messageboard took away spek...

;)

[aero]

For future reference since Roy changed numbers this year and some don't seem to realize it.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/Jenkins_Mike_150.jpg
31
Jenkins, Mike (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=A575E302-E232-A538-C6CD423B440DBA24)
Cornerback
Height: 5-11
Weight: 197
College: South Florida
Years: R

http://www.dallascowboys.com/images/Williams_Roy_150.jpg
38
Williams, Roy (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosPlayers.cfm?playerID=457CE26E-0394-1C69-8CC5D48788478822)
Safety
Height: 6-0
Weight: 225
College: Oklahoma
Years: 7


Not to change the subject but did anyone catch the announcer when Jenkins made a great play by knocking the ball away from the receiver that got behind him? It went something like ".....and a great play by the much ......(somewhat of a pause while said announcer swallows the word "maligned" thinking #31 is Roy Williams and realizes, or more likely elbowed by a spotter, that #31 is in fact Mike Jenkins) ....talked about Mike Jenkins." Kind of funny.

[Curly Bill]

If I was really against it, I'm just trying to think of how I would tell my pregnant wife that the reason I am pissed off is cause my messageboard took away spek...

;)

Really the best way is to just come right out and say it.

[colleyvillesooner]

Really the best way is to just come right out and say it.

Heh.

Honey, I know you had a long day and are feeling pretty tired, your feet hurt, and you're nervous about your body changing...BUT...you are not going to *believe* what that mother****er Phil did this time...you better sit down...

[Curly Bill]

Heh.

Honey, I know you had a long day and are feeling pretty tired, your feet hurt, and you're nervous about your body changing...BUT...you are not going to believe what that mother****er Phil did this time...you better sit down...

...and there you have it! :D

[olevetonahill]

...and there you have it! :D

Easy wasnt it ?:D

[StoopTroup]

HEH.

[The Maestro]

Excuse Me , But Bro you wernt this Mouthy when we Had spek . I wonder why ? If you dont care abot it one way or the Other why didnt you turn It off ?:rolleyes:

Fella, I haven't changed a lick. I NEVER have posted with a concern about spek...EVER! I didn't turn the thing on or off cause I didn't care about it or pay any attention to it. Honestly, I didn't know you could turn it on or off. Kinda like Dungeons and Dragons...I have no idea how many sides are on the dice cause I don't play.

And if spek comes back, fire away. I just might be able to sleep at night in spite of it.

What's funny is the "intent" of this thread was to say how much I missed the way TRRW dominated a football game. He still has some game, but he is not the enforcer he used to be and I miss that. So...is that okay with all of the critics?

[BigRedJed]

The fact that you know Dungeons and Dragons has dice that are different than standard dice, or even that it has dice at all, is telling. Googled it, and you're right; there's all sorts of weird dice in that game apparently. I didn't even know it had dice. Not that I'm not a nerd; I'm just not that kind of nerd. But that's your second D&D reference in this thread. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[The Maestro]

The fact that you know Dungeons and Dragons has dice that are different than standard dice, or even that it has dice at all, is telling. Googled it, and you're right; there's all sorts of weird dice in that game apparently. I didn't even know it had dice. Not that I'm not a nerd; I'm just not that kind of nerd. But that's your second D&D reference in this thread. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

It's just a good fact to know when teasing folks. But whatever. I'm not sure it is legally possible to like football like I do and Dungeons and Dragons, but if you think I do, cool with me.

Hey, I also know Harry Potter wears glasses...is that telling? Does that make me a closet fan?

[BigRedJed]

Hell, DEAN is out of the closet with his Harry Potter obsession, so I guess it's OK.

[ratedrsuperstar]

On a side note, the NFL will see a 75% decrease in horse-collar tackles over the next 4 weeks !!!!!

[BoonesFarmSooner]

Hey, I also know Harry Potter wears glasses...is that telling? Does that make me a closet fan?

Maestro prolly knows more about Hairy Twatter than he does about Harry Potter, but thats taking this thread off in a completely different direction.

And WTF is SPEK? This interlink thing is becoming more and more complex...

[bosworthsteroidmafia]

This thread seems to touch on a theme that I see around here consistently:

Can a person be a Sooner fan and still question their own in certain instances? Is this not synonymous with the duty of a good citizen - to question their government?

It seems like sometimes some folks around here are completely intolerant of an opposing/unfavorable point of view - to the point where they cannot even discuss an issue. Personally, I'd rather be open to anything and everything under the sun - I might not ultimately agree with it, but it might have broadened my perspective. I also like to be brutally honest in my assessment of my own ship - if I sugar coat things or just flat out don't acknowledge things it will only hurt me in the long run. Talking about your deficiencies is how you grow and improve.

I can't understand why people are so offended that Maestro is pointing out that Williams continues to look like he's lost a step. I'm sure Maestro still loves him, still loves the Sooners, etc... he's just making an observation.

[starclassic tama]

the funny thing about spek is the only way to get yours to matter is to pay money to the site...

[olevetonahill]

the funny thing about spek is the only way to get yours to matter is to pay money to the site...

Do you work hard at being stupid ?
Whether your a sponsor or Not Has Nothing to Do with Spek
Ya Get red For Being a ****ing Idiot . Ya get green for witty and smartass posts Like this .:P

[starclassic tama]

NO dipwad Its to Make decent Post with out Bashin any one .

one look at your posts and typing style would make it easy to assume you did not graduate high school.

if i neg someone, it doesn't do anything except post a little black neutral box in their control panel, because i haven't paid any money. is that tough to understand for you?

[bonkuba]

Dude.....seriously back the **** up before you talk that way about Vet. He has more in the area of knowledge than you will ever gain in your entire life. He has defended you and I in more ways than one.

Think before you post.

That is all........

[starclassic tama]

oh wah wah he's a vet that must mean he is respectable... nope, still a retard.

[olevetonahill]

NO dipwad Its to Make decent Post with out Bashin any one .

one look at your posts and typing style would make it easy to assume you did not graduate high school.

if i neg someone, it doesn't do anything except post a little black neutral box in their control panel, because i haven't paid any money. is that tough to understand for you?

You so smart , Id nevar had a guessed Ya was smarter than a roadkill skunk , But you sure is :rolleyes:
Now a Lesson On spek Dipwad
If Ya have Green Ya can leave Green or Red .
If Ya in the Red which apparently you are .
Then you Can only Leave Blue If your trying to Spek a Post or you Leave Grey If your tryin to Neg.
Capishe
Oh and as Far as My shoolin went I have you Know I made it out of the 3rd Grade. Course they had to Burn the Skool house Down to Get me out , But thats another storey .
Oh and you Can cancell your trip to Bolivia in 2 ways .
Either start Making Better Posts or turn the spek Off in your CP
Just sayin Dipwad.:rolleyes:

[olevetonahill]

oh wah wah he's a vet that must mean he is respectable... nope, still a retard.

Tuna you make No sense . I would report yer Post but your to Much Fun to Play with .
Ya Know Kinda like torturing a worm or something .:P

[olevetonahill]

Fella, I haven't changed a lick. I NEVER have posted with a concern about spek...EVER! I didn't turn the thing on or off cause I didn't care about it or pay any attention to it. Honestly, I didn't know you could turn it on or off. Kinda like Dungeons and Dragons...I have no idea how many sides are on the dice cause I don't play.

And if spek comes back, fire away. I just might be able to sleep at night in spite of it.

What's funny is the "intent" of this thread was to say how much I missed the way TRRW dominated a football game. He still has some game, but he is not the enforcer he used to be and I miss that. So...is that okay with all of the critics?

wether you realize it Or Not , Yes you have changed some .
If it aint spek which I take your word for . Something else caused it .

[olevetonahill]

You so smart , Id nevar had a guessed Ya was smarter than a roadkill skunk , But you sure is :rolleyes:
Now a Lesson On spek Dipwad
If Ya have Green Ya can leave Green or Red .
If Ya in the Red which apparently you are .
Then you Can only Leave Blue If your trying to Spek a Post or you Leave Grey If your tryin to Neg.
Capishe
Oh and as Far as My shoolin went I have you Know I made it out of the 3rd Grade. Course they had to Burn the Skool house Down to Get me out , But thats another storey .
Oh and you Can cancell your trip to Bolivia in 2 ways .
Either start Making Better Posts or turn the spek Off in your CP
Just sayin Dipwad.:rolleyes:

Why Sooner04 Neged Me on this post is anyones guess , But so be it .:P

[KC//CRIMSON]

starclassic tama appears to be retarded

[Curly Bill]

Do you work hard at being stupid ?
Whether your a sponsor or Not Has Nothing to Do with Spek
Ya Get red For Being a ****ing Idiot . Ya get green for witty and smartass posts Like this .:P

Yup, and SPEK. :D

[Curly Bill]

The fact that you know Dungeons and Dragons has dice that are different than standard dice, or even that it has dice at all, is telling. Googled it, and you're right; there's all sorts of weird dice in that game apparently. I didn't even know it had dice. Not that I'm not a nerd; I'm just not that kind of nerd. But that's your second D&D reference in this thread. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

:D SPEK

[Sooner04]

Why Sooner04 Neged Me on this post is anyones guess , But so be it .:P
I did that because I read it three times and had no idea what language you were speaking.

[olevetonahill]

I did that because I read it three times and had no idea what language you were speaking.

Its nOObese :P

[Lott's Bandana]

oh wah wah he's a vet that must mean he is respectable... .

Yep. You got that right.


Ask him what he was doing when he was a mere 22, like you.

Many of us at 22 had our fingers on something that, when operated, would send a soul to eternity, blow up a bunker, wreak havoc from the sky, destroy entire nations....or not. We were given a choice...Why? Partly so your young fingers can operate a keyboard and disrespect a man who fought for your Mama and Daddy so they could eventually get together and give us the opportunity to neg you to O-bolivia-n. Not for your opinion, but for your disrespek. Out.

[Curly Bill]

Yep. You got that right.


Ask him what he was doing when he was a mere 22, like you.

Many of us at 22 had our fingers on something that, when operated, would send a soul to eternity, blow up a bunker, wreak havoc from the sky, destroy entire nations....or not. We were given a choice...Why? Partly so your young fingers can operate a keyboard and disrespect a man who fought for your Mama and Daddy so they could eventually get together and give us the opportunity to spek you to O-bolivia-n. Not for your opinion, but for your disrespek. Out.

I approve of the above message. SPEK

[MiccoMacey]

Ditto.

Olevet deserves respect for his service. Regardless what you think about him (or others who chose to serve) as a poster, don't cross the line on this one.

[olevetonahill]

Yep. You got that right.


Ask him what he was doing when he was a mere 22, like you.

Many of us at 22 had our fingers on something that, when operated, would send a soul to eternity, blow up a bunker, wreak havoc from the sky, destroy entire nations....or not. We were given a choice...Why? Partly so your young fingers can operate a keyboard and disrespect a man who fought for your Mama and Daddy so they could eventually get together and give us the opportunity to neg you to O-bolivia-n. Not for your opinion, but for your disrespek. Out.

At 22 ? I was Partyin Hard .:D
I turned 19 On a Nite ambush.

[starclassic tama]

the military is not such a noble profession that anyone who served automatically deserves respect. the majority of military jobs are complete peasant's work, anyone can operate a gun. not to mention the biggest *******s i have encountered in my life are marines. most people join the military because it's an easy way to secure a good future for your family, not because they are some super patriot. you are still retarded.

[tommieharris91]

the military is not such a noble profession that anyone who served automatically deserves respect.

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[MiccoMacey]

the military is not such a noble profession that anyone who served automatically deserves respect. the majority of military jobs are complete peasant's work, anyone can operate a gun. not to mention the biggest *******s i have encountered in my life are marines. most people join the military because it's an easy way to secure a good future for your family, not because they are some super patriot. you are still retarded.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Yes, a bunch of the work is grunt work (hence the term "grunts").

But they sacrifice waaaaaaay more than you will ever know. The amount of time they spend away from their families, the amount of freedoms they give up, the low wages they earn, being held accountable on a level you will never know.

At some point, you're going to start re-reading your arguments with olevet and realize two things:

1) What started out as a petty argument among two people over something completely inignificant has escalated to you disrespecting all American vets.

2) You could have (and still can) stopped this by backing off and re-directing this toward the original argument/s. I'm not saying you're wrong for arguing with him. I'm not saying he's right for what he's said about you. That's between you two.

You can disrespect olevet as a person all day...he's no better on this board than you or I. But you've decided to disrespect his service to this country. Don't be offended if nearly every grown adult on this board sees different than you.

[olevetonahill]

the military is not such a noble profession that anyone who served automatically deserves respect. the majority of military jobs are complete peasant's work, anyone can operate a gun. not to mention the biggest *******s i have encountered in my life are marines. most people join the military because it's an easy way to secure a good future for your family, not because they are some super patriot. you are still retarded.

Yup you right aggie. Im a tard .:( I knew I shoulda went to Canada in 68 Instead of reporting for the Draft , Actually I really thot that great pay Of Net. 66 Bucks a Month was Fandamtastic., But then I wouldnt have been able to celebrate My 19th Birthday In an Exotic Land, Complete with Fireworks and all .
You bring to Mind a saying I heard along time ago
" If you Can read this , Thank a Teacher
If you can Read this In English thank a Vet "
I dont even remember How we got Off the friendly path and started down this slope. Nor do I care . You continue to amaze Me with You Intelligence
Now run along and Play nice.

[olevetonahill]

I did that because I read it three times and had no idea what language you were speaking.

So do you Neg Doleo On every Post ?
Bro Dont even think about going to The Blender Forum:rolleyes:

[The Maestro]

RIP this thread...seriously.

[birddog]

this turned ugly real fast.

i agree, get rid of it.

[freshchris05]

i can only imagine how this thread would've worked out if it was more properly titled... RIP...




:rolleyes:

[colleyvillesooner]

the military is not such a noble profession that anyone who served automatically deserves respect. the majority of military jobs are complete peasant's work, anyone can operate a gun. not to mention the biggest *******s i have encountered in my life are marines. most people join the military because it's an easy way to secure a good future for your family, not because they are some super patriot. you are still retarded.

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[starclassic tama]

just because i'm going to medical school doesn't mean i deserve anymore respect than the next guy on the street. same goes for anyone who was in the military. it's a job, you know, something (just about) everyone in the country has.

[birddog]

just because i'm going to medical school doesn't mean i deserve anymore respect than the next guy on the street. same goes for anyone who was in the military. it's a job, you know, something (just about) everyone in the country has.

still at it, eh? you're all alone on this one.

[CK Sooner]

still at it, eh? you're all alone on this one.

Like usual.

[BigRedJed]

just because i'm going to medical school doesn't mean i deserve anymore respect than the next guy on the street. same goes for anyone who was in the military. it's a job, you know, something (just about) everyone in the country has.
Yeah, admittedly soldiers are paid (not much, but they are), and yes, it often is a chance for a kid who doesn't have a lot of options to better himself. But what you are missing, be they volunteers, draftees back in the day, or whatever, is that they are putting their lives on the line to protect you and your way of life. And mine. And the lives/lifestyles of everyone else. They put their lives at risk to protect others. That's why people like soldiers, firefighters, and police officers automatically deserve an additional measure of respect.

You're not going to win this one, kid. Time to pack it in. Politics, pride, immaturity or whatever else is driving this for you aside, one day you'll (hopefully) grow up, recognize when other people perform a difficult, sometimes thankless task that directly benefits you, and be grateful for it.

[The Maestro]

Well, to simplify for the guy...you can disagree with someone who has been in the military without disrespecting their service. He might just be trying too hard.

[Lott's Bandana]

just because i'm going to medical school doesn't mean i deserve anymore respect than the next guy on the street. same goes for anyone who was in the military. it's a job, you know, something (just about) everyone in the country has.

Finish med school, then volunteer for one of the armed service branches or the USPHS and get the self-respect and gratification of knowing you gave something back.

Attend the funeral of one of your Iraq/Afghanistan peers, visit a VA center, go to a VFW/DAV/American Legion meeting...find out that serving can be a job, but it is much more than that.

As a Doc, you will certainly gain some automatic respect from others. And, deep down inside, you will know you earned it. However, every single opportunity you have...from the car you drive, to the house you live in, to the entertainment you choose to enjoy...ALL OF IT, was made possible by the sacrifices of veterans like those of us on this board.

You may be getting an education but you have a great deal of learning to do.

[starclassic tama]

oh i'm definitely not alone. i have gotten many green speks from posters who apparently wish to remain anonymous.

[Rhino]

Football, people. Football.