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CK Sooner
9/11/2008, 11:27 PM
WASHINGTON (AFP) — The chief of the US Navy said Tuesday an overflight of a US aircraft carrier by a Russian bomber off Japan was "benign" and unprovocative, adding that US crew were not called to combat stations.

Admiral Gary Roughead said he had not asked Moscow for an explanation, but offered one of his own: the Russian military is trying to re-emerge as a global force.

"But I did not consider it to be provocative," he said of Saturday's overflight of the USS Nimitz in the western Pacific.

"And, again, the way that our forces responded, our commanders responded, the performance of our systems was exactly what we expected," he added.

One of the bombers overflew the Nimitz at an altitude of 2,000 feet (600 meters), he told reporters at the Pentagon.

Roughead acknowledged that even during the Cold War US forces rarely overflew Russian warships.

But he said the flight of two TU-95 Bear bombers was detected early and alert aircraft were launched in a timely manner.

"The fact that we had such early detection, that we were able to launch our alerts in a very timely way, and when our airplanes joined up on the bombers, it was a very benign flight that came through, and we just latched onto them and followed them on in," he said.

"You know, it's not prudent to fly over an aircraft carrier," he said at another point. "But our situational awareness is such that, as I said, we had good detection, followed them in, and, in my mind, it's not something to go to general quarters over."

Roughead said the incident did not cause the Nimitz to go to general quarters -- a call for a ship's crew to combat stations.

US defense officials said four F-18 fighters intercepted the Russian bombers and escorted them until they had left the area.

Two other TU-95 bombers were intercepted earlier the same day by Japanese F-15 fighters.

Japan issued what it said was a strong protest with Moscow, which denied that its aircraft had ventured into Japanese airspace.

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates met the day after the Nimitz incident with Russian Deputy Premier Sergei Ivanov in Munich, Germany, but did not raise it in their talks, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said.

"Any expressions of concern will probably be carried out through military-to-military quote 'diplomatic channels,'" State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

But the State Department did not "at this point intend to do anything on behalf of the Department of Defense," McCormack said.

The Russians have decided to resume "some of their long-range aviation flights" using material left over from the Cold War and were keeping "them in good, working order," he said

"But beyond that, I don't think we view it as a particular threat. It is something that we watch, it is something that we watch closely," he said.

Some members of Congress raised concerns about the incident, however, at a hearing with senior Pentagon officials.

Democratic Senator Bill Nelson said it "sounds pretty provocative to me ... that they would be flying over one of our aircraft carrier battle groups and specifically if it were the aircraft carrier itself."

Republican Senator Pete Domenici said Russia was using a flood of oil revenues to re-equip its military forces and re-establish military laboratories.

"And they're pretty modern in terms of what they're building, compared to what we thought over the last decade. And nobody ought to be fooled. They're not built just to be parked up there in the ice lands," he said.

General James Cartwright, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the overflight was unusual, "but not significant in that the practice was done safely, professionally and they were escorted out of the area."

"Now what we're concerned about is, what are the indications of this return to a Cold War mindset -- what are the implications of that activity and how do we best address that?

"We're just trying to now go back and look what message was intended by this overflight," he said.

CrimsonandCreamForever
9/12/2008, 12:25 AM
Sounds like a bunch of canned responses from the DoD while people are behind the scenes trying to figure out what the hell's going on.

Blue
9/12/2008, 01:28 AM
We got all kinds of Carrier groups in the Med, Black Sea, Persian Gulf,...F with us...we dare you.

Jerk
9/12/2008, 05:13 AM
"No big deal" is BFS.

I bet they came very close to shooting it down.

Harry Beanbag
9/12/2008, 07:58 AM
Didn't this happen months ago?

CK Sooner
9/12/2008, 08:08 AM
Didn't this happen months ago?

I found it on Yahoo and it wasn't dated.

I think it is because I have never heard about it and it seems like something media would milk to its full potential.

CK Sooner
9/12/2008, 08:14 AM
I found another, again not dated. Looks like the British are having trouble with them too.

Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor

"RAF fighter jets were scrambled to intercept two Russian strategic bombers heading for British airspace yesterday, as the spirit of the Cold War returned to the North Atlantic once again.

The incident, described as rare by the RAF, served as a telling metaphor for the stand-off between London and Moscow over the murder of Alexander Litvinenko.

While the Kremlin hesitated before responding to Britain’s expulsion of four diplomats, the Russian military engaged in some old-fashioned sabre-rattling.

Two Tu95 “Bear” bombers were dispatched from their base on the Kola Peninsula in the Arctic Circle and headed towards British airspace.

Russian military aircraft based near the northern port city of Murmansk fly patrols off the Norwegian coast regularly, but the RAF said that it was highly unusual for them to stray as far south as Scotland.

Two Tornado fighters, part of the RAF’s Quick Reaction Alert, took off from RAF Leeming, in Yorkshire, to confront the Russian aircraft, after they were shadowed by two F16s from the Royal Norwegian Air Force, The Times has learnt.

“The Russians turned back before they reached British airspace,” an RAF spokesman said.

There was no evidence to suggest that the incident was connected with the diplomatic row over the extradition of Andrei Lugovoy, the main suspect in the murder of Litvinenko. "

OUMallen
9/12/2008, 08:38 AM
W.T.F. Seriously. I know we do our fair share of shenanigans, but you don't ever hear about us buzzing aircraft carriers with our bombers or flying bombers close to the Russian mainland.

Harry Beanbag
9/12/2008, 05:32 PM
W.T.F. Seriously. I know we do our fair share of shenanigans, but you don't ever hear about us buzzing aircraft carriers with our bombers or flying bombers close to the Russian mainland.


That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't even ask where our submarines go.

Curly Bill
9/12/2008, 05:36 PM
That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't even ask where our submarines go.

Spent 4 years as a Navy crypto guy (stationed Misawa Japan)...I know. ;)

This sounds like the Ruskies are just checking things out, testing our reflexes so to speak.

Harry Beanbag
9/12/2008, 05:42 PM
I swear we had a thread just like this a few months ago, but I can't find it.

shaun4411
9/12/2008, 05:42 PM
"No big deal" is BFS.

I bet they came very close to shooting it down.

i bet it was EXACTLY like crimson tide on the bridge

soonerinabilene
9/12/2008, 06:02 PM
You know that kid that kept teasing everybody in school. And then one of those days the kid had finally crossed the line, and one of the kids being teased turned into an f-18 hornet and shot his *** down? Its gonna happen. Very soon.

CK Sooner
9/12/2008, 06:18 PM
You know that kid that kept teasing everybody in school. And then one of those days the kid had finally crossed the line, and one of the kids being teased turned into an f-18 hornet and shot his *** down? Its gonna happen. Very soon.

Then it would be war, which wouldn't be very good because even if we started to beat Russia they would eventually use there Nuke Arsenal and we would all be dead.