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Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:12 PM
Mitt is preaching from my teevee.
And you can't get enough political threads on the first page.

Seriously, when did Mitt become a televangelist?

olevetonahill
9/3/2008, 08:15 PM
Mitt is preaching from my teevee.
And you can't get enough political threads on the first page.

Seriously, when did Mitt become a televangelist?

He just said something about energy conservation or some shat.
"Just make sure Al Gores Private Jet stays on the Ground LOL"

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:15 PM
There it is, Mitt. Bring the fear. :rolleyes:

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:16 PM
He just said something about rnergy conservation or some shat.
Just make sure Al Gores Private Jret stays on the Ground LOL

Yeah, it was a good line.

BUt his whole schtick is about fear. And I, for one, am tired of fear-politics.
Glad Mitt's not on the ticket.

tommieharris91
9/3/2008, 08:19 PM
I'm glad I'm not watching this, either.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah, it was a good line.

BUt his whole schtick is about fear. And I, for one, am tired of fear-politics.
Glad Mitt's not on the ticket.

You gettin skeered? :P

Chuck Bao
9/3/2008, 08:24 PM
Amen to that Rogue. I eventually had to turn off the TV volume.

Mitt's speech could have been a SNL skit.

olevetonahill
9/3/2008, 08:24 PM
Im drinkin Beer and wiring up a cieling Fan .
Should I be shocked Libs dont like it ?

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 08:25 PM
Amen to that Rogue. I eventually had to turn off the TV volume.

Mitt's speech could have been a SNL skit.

Next thing you know you'll be moving to Thailand. ;) :D

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 08:26 PM
Im drinkin Beer and wiring up a cieling Fan .
Should I be shocked Libs dont like it ?

Drinking beer and wiring...

You might be shocked. :D

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:26 PM
You gettin skeered? :P

Nah, fatigued with this tactic. Hunt terr'ists, kill 'em, it's a way of life now. Has been in the rest of the world for some time and now it is here too. Fear doesn't motivate me as much as the politicos think it does.

Turd_Ferguson
9/3/2008, 08:27 PM
Im drinkin Beer and wiring up a cieling Fan .
Should I be shocked Libs dont like it ?No, just wire it up...220...221, whatever it takes. AND LEAVE THE DAMN ANTENNER OUT!!!!:D

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:27 PM
Huckabee. Hoo-boy. Is it just me or would Kevin Spacey play him in a movie?

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:41 PM
Huckabee tells a great story.

Getem
9/3/2008, 08:44 PM
I'm almost crying already... no, not from ridiculously overblown pansy liberal emotion... when Huckabee took that shot at Biden, I laughed so hard I almost let a tear escape. ALMOST, I said.

Big Red Ron
9/3/2008, 08:45 PM
I thought Huckabee made a pretty sincere speech. It isn't over yet but his point that all Republicans aren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths is one I can personally attest to.

I believe in less government, not more, therefore, I am a Republican. Republicans have let me down, as all institutions do from time to time but I do believe we'll pay less taxes under McCain than Obama. We should start in alphabetical order and cut every single government program by 10% and refund the money to taxpayers. Not even Republicans have the balls to do that and it's a shame.

Getem
9/3/2008, 08:52 PM
ok, this crowd chanting "zero" is a little aggie for my tastes

Rogue
9/3/2008, 08:56 PM
There's Levi. But, let's not politicize the family. :rolleyes:

GrapevineSooner
9/3/2008, 08:59 PM
Unless Levi is actually speaking tonight, I fail to see your point.

Afterall, Obama had his kids speaking last week during the DNC...after telling the press they were off limits (which I agree with, BTW).

Getem
9/3/2008, 09:01 PM
There's Levi. But, let's not politicize the family. :rolleyes:

Yes, what were they thinking? Her family has no right to be there!

Mixer!
9/3/2008, 09:03 PM
Huckabee plays a mean bass.

GrapevineSooner
9/3/2008, 09:04 PM
Yes, what were they thinking? Her family has no right to be there!

Or what Getem said. :D

Anyway, somebody want to wake me up after that boring speech by the Hawaii governor?

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:04 PM
Meh, I think they're trying to win points with Levi's presence.

Finally someone with some panache, some charisma...Rudy G.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:09 PM
Interesting. BO is running against Bush and the GOP is spending half their campaign complaining about BO. And the other half pimping Sarah Palin. It's like McCain is an afterthought in the whole deal.

Getem
9/3/2008, 09:11 PM
I think Palin might actually be the star. McCain is there to be her mentor for 4 years and prep her to run against Hillary in 2012. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

JohnnyMack
9/3/2008, 09:14 PM
Guiliani is terrible. This is beyond awkward.

tommieharris91
9/3/2008, 09:15 PM
I think Palin might actually be the star. McCain is there to be her mentor for 4 years and prep her to run against Hillary in 2012. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

I'll take this as a reason to vote for Obama.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:16 PM
Drill baby, drill.

Not exactly a rallying cry...except in smak central where it's "drill here drill now." Seriously. Good stuff there. Not so much on my teevee though.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:17 PM
The NY skyline backdrop behind Rudy G in Minneapolis? Weird.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:20 PM
I think McCain might promise only one term.

Think about it:
-health/age concerns people have about McCain are lessened
-people who aren't real sure about Obama's experience will be able to vote for JSM or at least not vote for BHO so as to 'let Obama get more experience'
-gives Palin time to get rolling, then run on her own in 2012.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:20 PM
Wow, Rudy G is going to point the flip-flop-finger at BO?! Not exactly the tack I'd map for a strategy.

Getem
9/3/2008, 09:20 PM
Bristy needs to learn to keep smiling anytime there's a possibility of camera attention

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:22 PM
Bristy needs to learn to keep smiling anytime there's a possibility of camera attention

She has more important things to be worried about right now. Seriously.

Getem
9/3/2008, 09:27 PM
heh the biggest laughs are all about Biden

JohnnyMack
9/3/2008, 09:27 PM
I think McCain might promise only one term.

Think about it:
-health/age concerns people have about McCain are lessened
-people who aren't real sure about Obama's experience will be able to vote for JSM or at least not vote for BHO so as to 'let Obama get more experience'
-gives Palin time to get rolling, then run on her own in 2012.

He already has.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:27 PM
I actually think Guiliani is doing exactly what he needs to do.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:27 PM
He already has.

has he? I missed that.

When did this happen?

SoonerStormchaser
9/3/2008, 09:29 PM
:eek: MY GAWD!!!


HAWTTTT!!!


(I'd definitely hit it!)

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:29 PM
VPILF

Cam
9/3/2008, 09:30 PM
Who's the blond with Mr Palin?

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:30 PM
:eek: MY GAWD!!!


HAWTTTT!!!


(I'd definitely hit it!)

Isn't she a little young for you? ;)

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:30 PM
she is easy on the eyes, that's for sure.

KaiserSooner
9/3/2008, 09:30 PM
Just thought I'd chime in and say that I've been enjoying the theater that is the caucasian convention :)

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:30 PM
Isn't she a little young for you? ;)

heh.

(good one)

SoonerStormchaser
9/3/2008, 09:31 PM
Isn't she a little young for you? ;)

Actually the wife is a little depressed that there's a candidate out there she's now older than. O'Bomba is around 9 months older than her.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:32 PM
Who's the blond with Mr Palin?

Is it Meghan McCain?

Sooner Eclipse
9/3/2008, 09:33 PM
Who's the blond with Mr Palin?

You mean Cindy McCain? :eek: lets not start that rumor.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:34 PM
Yup, Cindy. :eek:
Not Meghan.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:36 PM
No she didn't!

"That is exactly the kind of man I want as CIC!"

Yup, pure sex psychology.

KaiserSooner
9/3/2008, 09:36 PM
Guiliani is terrible. This is beyond awkward.

Awkward, but affective I think. Huckabee too...you can tell that guy used to be a preacher.

Have to say though, with the rabid right-wing upper-middle class nutcases on the floor, wild-eyed for Palin, and cheers of "drill baby drill", I'm getting a distinctly 1992 GOP Convention vibe.

Cam
9/3/2008, 09:37 PM
You mean Cindy McCain? :eek: lets not start that rumor.

Hadn't seen her until tonight. Figured McCain would have had a slightly older wife.

KaiserSooner
9/3/2008, 09:39 PM
Hadn't seen her until tonight. Figured McCain would have had a slightly older wife.

Nope. He went Stepford, all the way ;)

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 09:41 PM
Culling the Blue Star moms...pretty savvy.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:44 PM
'I guess a small town mayor is kind of like a community organizer...except you have actual responsibilities...'

ouch.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:45 PM
'I guess a small town mayor is kind of like a community organizer...except you have actual responsibilities...'

ouch.


:D I know.

VeeJay
9/3/2008, 09:45 PM
They just hauled a peacenik outta there. What was that all about?

Cam
9/3/2008, 09:45 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how the religion and guns comment could be offensive. It's 100% true. If somebody told me I was short, going bald, and just a little over weight, I'd agree with them.

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 09:45 PM
the on cue cheering/booing is a little embarrassing to watch. Rudy bamboozled them with his rhythm.

the "community organizer" joke was leaked.

wwweyyylll.....a little overdone.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:46 PM
They just hauled a peacenik outta there. What was that all about?

You gotta haul them out before you can bash their head in. :D

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:47 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how the religion and guns comment could be offensive. It's 100% true. If somebody told me I was short, going bald, and just a little over weight, I'd agree with them.

Yeah people like being told they're clinging to their religion and their guns because they're bitter...

...can't imagine taking offense at that.

BigRedJed
9/3/2008, 09:47 PM
:les: SOMEBODY TAKE AWAY THE BABY BEFORE THE LITTLE GIRL EATS HIM!!!

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:47 PM
Her Idaho accent fits right into the "straight-talk express" deal.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:48 PM
the "community organizer" joke was leaked.

Yes, it was leaked. But a leaked line from a speech and a spoken line from a speech are hardly equally effective.

VeeJay
9/3/2008, 09:49 PM
You gotta haul them out before you can bash their head in. :D

Before they bash in the head, maybe they'll ask her what she's protesting.

I'm willing to bet she can't answer.

Cam
9/3/2008, 09:49 PM
Yeah people like being told they're clinging to their religion and their guns because they're bitter...

...can't imagine taking offense at that.

I listened to the actual speech, and it wasn't said like that at all man.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 09:50 PM
Fargo.

DONcha know.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:50 PM
the on cue cheering/booing is a little embarrassing to watch. Rudy bamboozled them with his rhythm.
Gosh, I'd almost mistake this for a convention of like-minded delegates who are recently re-energized by a new arrival on their presidential ticket.

A 'concert' venue at Mile High stadium? Nothing 'on cue' about that at all. And not a bit embarrassing.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:51 PM
I listened to the actual speech, and it wasn't said like that at all man.

...but I know what he meant! :P :D


...and so do the rest of the bitter gun having peeps. ;)

Getem
9/3/2008, 09:51 PM
Dang, I want to see a Palin/Obama debate. She would chew him up.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:52 PM
Dang, I want to see a Palin/Obama debate. She would chew him up.

I'd like to see them in a real fight. I know she'd kick his pansy *** at that. :D

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 09:54 PM
Gosh, I'd almost mistake this for a convention of like-minded delegates who are recently re-energized by a new arrival on their presidential ticket.

A 'concert' venue at Mile High stadium? Nothing 'on cue' about that at all. And not a bit embarrassing.

you are hearing what you like to hear, good on ya.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:54 PM
Lay more pipe lines.

This is all about sex, people.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 09:54 PM
I'd like to see them in a real fight. I know she'd kick his pansy *** at that. :D

I want to see her fight Cindy Mac!



heh heh heh

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:54 PM
"we're gonna lay more pipelines..."


heh.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:55 PM
you are hearing what you like to hear, good on ya.

thanks.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:55 PM
Palin has some style.
I'm realizing she's a desperation add-on to the ticket though.

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 09:56 PM
the victory line was a nice one.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 09:56 PM
that's funny--'the styrofoam greek columns...'

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:56 PM
I want to see her fight Cindy Mac!
heh heh heh

Might for once actually get the Pay Per View. ;)

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:56 PM
THIS IS THE MAN I WANT for commander in chief.

WE'RE GONNA LAY MORE PIPE lines.

She's sexxing it up, and it may be working.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 09:57 PM
Palin has some style.
I'm realizing she's a desperation add-on to the ticket though.

Oh God! Don't go all LAS on us please. :D

Rogue
9/3/2008, 09:58 PM
The DEMs bashed Bush.
The GOP is bashing Obama.

McCain is the odd man out.

I don't think this convention attacking the economy or Obama being a flip-flopper is good strategy.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 09:59 PM
THIS IS THE MAN I WANT for commander in chief.

WE'RE GONNA LAY MORE PIPE lines.

She's sexxing it up, and it may be working.

I don't want to know what is making you think that!

Oh, isn't it damn late in the EDT? MNF/SNF/Conventions.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:01 PM
Oh God! Don't go all LAS on us please. :D
;)



Nah, I like JM and I'm trying to figure out Palin.
It's a genius choice for the sheer psychology of it. Race, gender, and SEX.
:cool:

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:01 PM
Ok, what network you all watching?

Me = OETA/PBS

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:02 PM
CNN

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:03 PM
flipping around several channels. mostly FNC.

KC--no comments necessary about my watching FNC ;)

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:04 PM
Her speechwriter is sarcastic and it's a bit offputting.
Better than the fear theme that Mitt had going on though.

tommieharris91
9/3/2008, 10:04 PM
ESPN

Collier11
9/3/2008, 10:05 PM
this is a great speech, they take offense to that comment you guys speak of because the elite dems look down on the small town values...Obama is losing credibility by the second

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:05 PM
She sounds a bit sometimes like Ann Richards, without the Tejas accent.

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:05 PM
flipping around several channels. mostly FNC.

KC--no comments necessary about my watching FNC ;)

i'm watching FOX too.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:06 PM
ESPN

Have they nominated Pete Carroll yet?

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:06 PM
She sounds a bit sometimes like Ann Richards, without the Tejas accent.

As much as I disliked Ann Richards I can see that.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:07 PM
i'm watching FOX too.

Welcome my liberal friend to the channel of all that is right and proper. :D

tommieharris91
9/3/2008, 10:08 PM
Have they nominated Pete Carroll yet?

No, they're too busy campaigning for the New York Yankees right now.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:09 PM
Fear, sarcasm, and sex. I've had a belly full. G'night, y'all.

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:09 PM
Welcome my liberal friend to the channel of all that is right and proper. :D

i like Brit Hume's boozy drawl and Bill Kristol's wacky good times.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:10 PM
Move that dayum Arizona sign!

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:10 PM
I think she did an outstanding job.

Very much the attack dog, as the VP candidate should be.

Very much how Biden was during his speech.

SoonerStormchaser
9/3/2008, 10:10 PM
Great speech.

But I'm sure JM will still think she's a succubus.

swardboy
9/3/2008, 10:10 PM
Stunning performance.

And now...heeerrrrrres Johnny!

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:11 PM
OMG! there he is. Maverick from Top Gun!

(thanks Rudy).

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:11 PM
Whazzis? J-Mac already? I'll stick around for a minute.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:11 PM
i like Brit Hume's boozy drawl and Bill Kristol's wacky good times.

To be honest with you, I'm actually suspicious that Hume has been dead for a good while now and this is merely his corpse-puppet on strings we've been watching for the last few years.

JohnnyMack
9/3/2008, 10:12 PM
I thought it was a C speech. I will qualify that grade by saying I thought Biden gave a C speech. She wasn't anywhere approaching "greatness".

SoonerStormchaser
9/3/2008, 10:12 PM
Kinda like Paul, eh SLC?

Cam
9/3/2008, 10:12 PM
I don't know how either side think that children are off limits when they trot them out at every opportunity. It's just not realistic to think they're going to be left out of it.

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:13 PM
Ok, I liked the expression on her face when she hugged JSM...she'd push the button, no doubt.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:14 PM
I thought it was a C speech. I will qualify that grade by saying I thought Biden gave a C speech. She wasn't anywhere approaching "greatness".

I give her a B. Good for the right, a bit much on the sexual innuendoes, some appeal for the common folk with the folksy-isms and the sarcasm, not much meat for the 3 remaining undecideds though.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:14 PM
I thought it was a C speech. I will qualify that grade by saying I thought Biden gave a C speech. She wasn't anywhere approaching "greatness".

I think that's fair. I think her novelty and biting criticism of Obama are going to make news/impact above what the quality of the speech will.

I think Biden actually did perhaps a bit better job with his speech in terms of delivery, etc. But the criticism of JSM is not new. It is relatively new to bash BHO in front of God and everybody, especially when you're a woman VP candidate.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:14 PM
I don't know how either side think that children are off limits when they trot them out at every opportunity. It's just not realistic to think they're going to be left out of it.

Yup, if they're gonna be trotted out for family time photo-ops, then they become part of. I don't know how right it is, but that's what it is.

SoonerStormchaser
9/3/2008, 10:15 PM
I'm sure Paul Begala, CNN's whiny *** liberal in chief, will grade her at a "F."

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:15 PM
Kinda like Paul, eh SLC?

I don't understand?

KC//CRIMSON
9/3/2008, 10:15 PM
I thought it was a C speech. I will qualify that grade by saying I thought Biden gave a C speech. She wasn't anywhere approaching "greatness".

and what do they do? Interview some hick from Tulsa, Ok

How was the speech? What did you think?

Oh my gawd! She's tha one! She wuz unbelievable!


hilarious.

Cam
9/3/2008, 10:15 PM
Yup, if they're gonna be trotted out for family time photo-ops, then they become part of. I don't know how right it is, but that's what it is.

Happens every time.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:16 PM
It is relatively new to bash BHO in front of God and everybody, especially when you're a woman VP candidate.

And THEREIN lies the genius. Biden's damned if he hits her back and damned if he doesn't.

BigRedJed
9/3/2008, 10:16 PM
and what do they do? Interview some hick from Tulsa, Ok

How was the speech? What did you think?

Oh my gawd! She's tha one! She wuz unbelievable!
Was he shirtless? Those are always my favorite.

BigRedJed
9/3/2008, 10:16 PM
Wait...

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:16 PM
A question to ponder: as a female does she enjoy more freedom to attack Brack without suffering some of the backlash that another man might receive?

I think so.

JohnnyMack
9/3/2008, 10:17 PM
She spent a lot of time laying out her history, which she was forced to do since one week ago today 98% of the United States couldn't tell you who the hell she was. She offered very little in specifics on what a McCain presidency would offer short of letting us know for the 55,253rd time that he's a tough old war hero. She took the oblilgatory pot shots at BHO. She was very nervous early but got into a rhythm about midway through. All in all it was Meh to Meh +.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:17 PM
A question to ponder: as a female does she enjoy more freedom to attack Brack without suffering some of the backlash that another man might receive?

I think so.

I see Rogue already spoke to this above.

...or was it SLC?

Big Red Ron
9/3/2008, 10:19 PM
"! guess being a Mayor is sorta like being a community organizer, execpt you have actual resposibilities."

Underestimate her at your own risk.

Rogue
9/3/2008, 10:19 PM
OK, now I'm really out. "We're all just raisin' McCain!" WTF?! :eek:

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:20 PM
She offered very little in specifics on what a McCain presidency would offer short of letting us know for the 55,253rd time that he's a tough old war hero.

This kind of situation does not lend itself to lay out a plan in specifics.

See 'Barack Obama speech at Mile High'

Lott's Bandana
9/3/2008, 10:21 PM
Time to watch "Hard Knocks" week 5...

tommieharris91
9/3/2008, 10:21 PM
"! guess being a Mayor is sorta like being a community organizer, execpt you have actual resposibilities."


I guarantee that's the only sound bite you will hear tomorrow. She made a noose with this.

JohnnyMack
9/3/2008, 10:21 PM
This kind of situation does not lend itself to lay out a plan in specifics.

See 'Barack Obama speech at Mile High'

True enough.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:22 PM
A question to ponder: as a female does she enjoy more freedom to attack Brack without suffering some of the backlash that another man might receive?

I think so.

I do believe that the Dems are in a pickle with her. You bash her, and you're a sexist. If she bashes you and you bash back, you're a sexist bully.

Alas, but the dems had a chance to nominate a woman if they so wanted.

GottaHavePride
9/3/2008, 10:23 PM
This kind of situation does not lend itself to lay out a plan in specifics.

See 'Barack Obama speech at Mile High'

Heh. Which is actually why I don't see any point to the conventions at all. They were useful a hundred years ago when the convention was actually when the party decided who to nominate. When your candidates are locked in months before the conventions, why do you need them? I mean, other than as a platform to get your candidates a ton of free media coverage to sway the easily-influenced voters?

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:23 PM
I do believe that the Dems are in a pickle with her. You bash her, and you're a sexist. If she bashes you and you bash back, you're a sexist bully.

Alas, but the dems had a chance to nominate a woman if they so wanted.

Thus the beauty of this choice. :)

GottaHavePride
9/3/2008, 10:25 PM
I do believe that the Dems are in a pickle with her. You bash her, and you're a sexist. If she bashes you and you bash back, you're a sexist bully.

Alas, but the dems had a chance to nominate a woman if they so wanted.

Look at it this way, though. Had the Democrats nominated Hillary, the Republicans would have had my vote right then. And I don't think I'm the only person to think that way.

Not because she's a woman. Because I don't think she can be trusted.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:25 PM
Heh. Which is actually why I don't see any point to the conventions at all. They were useful a hundred years ago when the convention was actually when the party decided who to nominate. When your candidates are locked in months before the conventions, why do you need them? I mean, other than as a platform to get your candidates a ton of free media coverage to sway the easily-influenced voters?

Agreed.

I think really anymore it's sort of a kickoff to the real meat of the election. Perhaps a rallying point for each party. But I really don't think there's a whole lot of undecideds watching conventions much. They're too busy making meth and/or watching Big Brother Eleventy Billion.

VeeJay
9/3/2008, 10:26 PM
A question to ponder: as a female does she enjoy more freedom to attack Brack without suffering some of the backlash that another man might receive?

I think so.

Hell yeah - she hasn't been attacked at all over the course of the last 96 hours. :rolleyes:

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:26 PM
"! guess being a Mayor is sorta like being a community organizer, execpt you have actual resposibilities."

Underestimate her speech-writer at your own risk.

ftfy.

GrapevineSooner
9/3/2008, 10:26 PM
All conventions pander to the base and to partisans.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:26 PM
Time to watch "Hard Knocks" week 5...

Or "Hard Knocks" week 5.


;)

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:27 PM
Agreed.

I think really anymore it's sort of a kickoff to the real meat of the election. Perhaps a rallying point for each party. But I really don't think there's a whole lot of undecideds watching conventions much. They're too busy making meth and/or watching Big Brother Eleventy Billion.

i was making meth *and* watching.

Curly Bill
9/3/2008, 10:28 PM
Hell yeah - she hasn't been attacked at all over the course of the last 96 hours. :rolleyes:

Good point, but that's mostly been the dumas, no ethics having, so-called media.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:29 PM
i was making meth *and* watching.

And this ability to remain engaged in the political arena while maintaining your felonious way of life is what makes you a true Dem.


;)

King Crimson
9/3/2008, 10:31 PM
And this ability to remain engaged in the political arena while maintaining your felonious way of life is what makes you a true Dem.


;)

i'm not a democrat. never been registered in a political party. just saying.

OKC-SLC
9/3/2008, 10:37 PM
i'm not a democrat. never been registered in a political party. just saying.

oh.

so you're saying there's a chance?

Cam
9/4/2008, 08:18 PM
Agreed.

I think really anymore it's sort of a kickoff to the real meat of the election. Perhaps a rallying point for each party. But I really don't think there's a whole lot of undecideds watching conventions much. They're too busy making meth and/or watching Big Brother Eleventy Billion.

How dare you insinuate that I watch Big Brother.


Look at it this way, though. Had the Democrats nominated Hillary, the Republicans would have had my vote right then. And I don't think I'm the only person to think that way.

Not because she's a woman. Because I don't think she can be trusted.

I'm with you 100% on that.

def_lazer_fc
9/4/2008, 08:27 PM
with all the USA! USA! chanting, i thought for a second i was watching a match between hulk hogan and the iron sheik last night. :D

olevetonahill
9/4/2008, 08:35 PM
i'm not a democrat. never been registered in a political party. just saying.

Can you Vote In Local elections ?
Im a Reg. Dem.For the simple reason I couldn't Vote for the County sheriff,
Or any other Local Race .
If I could Id Be reg I Myself.

Sooner_Havok
9/4/2008, 08:47 PM
Can you Vote In Local elections ?
Im a Reg. Dem.For the simple reason I couldn't Vote for the County sheriff,
Or any other Local Race .
If I could Id Be reg I Myself.

I gots an I by my name and they ain't never stopped me from voting in Cleavland County crap. Why, I voted for E.Z. Millions for Mayor:D

Big Red Ron
9/4/2008, 08:50 PM
Can you Vote In Local elections ?
Im a Reg. Dem.For the simple reason I couldn't Vote for the County sheriff,
Or any other Local Race .
If I could Id Be reg I Myself.That is one of the biggest problems I have with the closed primary system. I like, one vote on either ballot, doesn't matter what party you're in.

olevetonahill
9/4/2008, 08:58 PM
I gots an I by my name and they ain't never stopped me from voting in Cleavland County crap. Why, I voted for E.Z. Millions for Mayor:D

But Here Its over after the Dem. Primary.
No one runs as a Repub to make it to the General election .
Our Sheriff was Just elected. The Race is over.
If I wasnt a Reg Dem I wouldnt have been able to Vote for County Commish. Or sheriff.

KC//CRIMSON
9/4/2008, 09:54 PM
Good thing McCain pulled that cougar out of his hat, because giving speeches isn't one of his strong suits.

What a cluster****.

Rogue
9/4/2008, 09:59 PM
Good thing McCain pulled that cougar out of his hat, because giving speeches isn't one of his strong suits.

What a cluster****.

Yup. He ain't a speecher.

Rogue
9/4/2008, 10:00 PM
The guy is just a good d00d. Don't know if I'll vote for him, but I won't be too upset if he's the next POTUS.

Curly Bill
9/4/2008, 10:02 PM
The guy is just a good d00d. Don't know if I'll vote for him, but I won't be too upset when he's the next POTUS.

FIXED fer ya.

Veritas
9/4/2008, 10:04 PM
Yup. He ain't a speecher.
Yeah....a bit awkward.

Rogue
9/4/2008, 10:05 PM
This song! Gah. Awful.
McCain isn't an inspiring speaker. More like a doddering old d00d that is easy to respect, but hard to get real fired up about.

Veritas
9/4/2008, 10:06 PM
Heh...CSPAN just showed Meg Whitman in the audience.

And they kept showing this hot latina about halfway through. I wish they'd go back to her.

Rogue
9/4/2008, 10:07 PM
I still like the 1990's McCain better'n the New Millenium McCain.
He had more fire then.

Vaevictis
9/4/2008, 10:09 PM
Not impressed with the first 2/3 of that speech.

But damn, that was a good close.

Veritas
9/4/2008, 10:09 PM
Ugh, they're playing Heart. I'm shutting it down before they start playing Rush.

Getem
9/4/2008, 10:15 PM
Ugh, they're playing Heart. I'm shutting it down before they start playing Rush.
They're playing Barracuda - Palin's nickname in high school

KC//CRIMSON
9/4/2008, 10:16 PM
with all the USA! USA! chanting, i thought for a second i was watching a match between Ivan Drago and Rocky. :D


no *hit.

Hot Rod
9/4/2008, 10:35 PM
"Don't Stop Believing"

Big Red Ron
9/5/2008, 09:54 AM
with all the USA! USA! chanting, i thought for a second i was watching a match between hulk hogan and the iron sheik last night. :D
The first 1/3 of the speech was choppy and didn't flow because of some batsh!t crazy protesters kept popping up and shouting. At some point, the USA chants were used by the crowd to drown out the fools.

JohnnyMack
9/5/2008, 10:01 AM
The first 1/3 of the speech was choppy and didn't flow because of some batsh!t crazy protesters kept popping up and shouting. At some point, the USA chants were used by the crowd to drown out the fools.

You blame the choppiness and lack of flow on protesters? Have you ever seen a John McCain speech?

sooneron
9/5/2008, 10:02 AM
http://a181.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/46/l_86da82dd168fbfda7e55c257effd014c.jpg

heh

JohnnyMack
9/5/2008, 10:05 AM
http://a181.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/46/l_86da82dd168fbfda7e55c257effd014c.jpg

heh

Find a pic of the guy yawning during the speech. The camera jerks away as fast as it can. :D

sooneron
9/5/2008, 10:08 AM
Find a pic of the guy yawning during the speech. The camera jerks away as fast as it can. :D

I don't care enough. I'm sure there were yawners at the DNC as well. I saw that sign last night and chuckled. I'm pretty sure that I saw a "hockey mom's for Palin" sign the night before. Srsly, if you're going to make a sign that you could be photographed with on National tv, wouldn't you at least make sure the spelling/grammar is somewhat correct?

SoonerBorn68
9/5/2008, 10:12 AM
...but that's the way it's pronounced. :D

Big Red Ron
9/5/2008, 10:12 AM
You blame the choppiness and lack of flow on protesters? Have you ever seen a John McCain speech?I have seen him speak. He's not as bad as others but certainly not a smooth talker. But yes, it was choppy at the beginning due in part to all the interruptions by protesters.

GrapevineSooner
9/5/2008, 11:14 AM
http://a181.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/46/l_86da82dd168fbfda7e55c257effd014c.jpg

heh

And that was right after McCain mentioned something about solving adult illiteracy. :D

Sooner Eclipse
9/5/2008, 11:25 AM
McCain = Straight talk express

Obama = Smooth talk express

Which one do you trust? I don't like all the things that JSM espouses, but at least I'm fairly sure we'll get what we voted for with him. It may not be pretty, but he'll say what he will do, and do exactly what he says.

Vaevictis
9/5/2008, 11:32 AM
McCain = Straight talk express

Obama = Smooth talk express

Which one do you trust? I don't like all the things that JSM espouses, but at least I'm fairly sure we'll get what we voted for with him. It may not be pretty, but he'll say what he will do, and do exactly what he says.

EDIT: Okay, so that was a rude way of putting it.

The "Straight Talk Express" is just how the dude markets himself. If you "trust" that, you're as much a fool as anyone who trusts Obama just because he can give a speech.

Sooner Eclipse
9/5/2008, 11:47 AM
I don't trust him because that's how he markets himself. :rolleyes: I trust him because he has a long history of doing exactly what he says. (thus the STE) Some of it I don't like. But at least we'll get what we voted for.

Vaevictis
9/5/2008, 11:55 AM
Take a closer look at this last election cycle and how it compares to his last run.

Dude sold out to get through the primaries. He's playing the game now, so you'll forgive me if I don't trust him to stop just 'cause he wins the election.

Big Red Ron
9/5/2008, 11:55 AM
EDIT: Okay, so that was a rude way of putting it.

The "Straight Talk Express" is just how the dude markets himself. If you "trust" that, you're as much a fool as anyone who trusts Obama just because he can give a speech.
I tend to agree with you but McCain has a long history of doing what he says. Obama is aking us to make a leap of faith.

Vaevictis
9/5/2008, 12:08 PM
I'd buy in if it was 2000 -- in fact, I did buy in in 2000. I think our country would be in much better shape now if McCain had won that time around, even compared to Al Gore.

But again, he's playing the game now. Winning the primaries and possibly the election isn't exactly what I'd call incentive to stop.

I certainly didn't see his campaign's "straight talk" in Palin's speech.

King Crimson
9/5/2008, 12:14 PM
But again, he's playing the game now. Winning the primaries and possibly the election isn't exactly what I'd call incentive to stop.

not only that, this is the last rodeo for McCain...a career pol getting this close is (to paraphrase H.S. Thompson's book on the '72 Campaign) "like a bull moose in heat". he'll do anything to win.



I certainly didn't see his campaign's "straight talk" in Palin's speech.

me neither, for all the sideswipe at Obama for being all smoke and mirrors and the Pub talk about "specifics"....the RNC was pretty empty of issues and more about "personality" or the hot word they are using: "narrative".

see comments from McCain aide Rick Davis, for instance.

Jimminy Crimson
9/5/2008, 01:07 PM
http://a181.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/46/l_86da82dd168fbfda7e55c257effd014c.jpg

heh

A majority, if not all, of the 'handmade' signs allowed into the convention hall are made by a group of student volunteers. It's something that happens at conventions. The networks usually do a story on it, but I didn't see anything this time around.