Legal question

[Penguin]

A family member was approached by a federal agent. He wants my relative to retrieve something for him. My relative asked, "Why don't you just get a search warrant?" This was his answer: "Sure, we could get a search warrant, but that would take time. It would just be a lot easier if you just got it for us."


WTF? Is it even legal for them to ask that? Very weird.

[olevetonahill]

A family member was approached by a federal agent. He wants my relative to retrieve something for him. My relative asked, "Why don't you just get a search warrant?" This was his answer: "Sure, we could get a search warrant, but that would take time. It would just be a lot easier if you just got it for us."


WTF? Is it even legal for them to ask that? Very weird.

Definitely weird . Can you give a Few more clues as to whats going On ?

[Taxman71]

Tell the agent, that line doesn't work on the ladies, it ain't gonna work on me.

[sooner_born_1960]

I hope it wasn't the OVJ.

[Hamhock]

no way, jose.

[Okla-homey]

heh

[Turd_Ferguson]

Pull out your pistol and tell him to show you his badge:pop:

[OUHOMER]

I would not do it. Sounds fishy to me.

[swardboy]

Abstain, abstain, abstain....something is not right.

They do not want to be a "link" in that chain....

[OUHOMER]

UMM is the item they want inside your family members house?

[shaun4411]

well it isnt legal for them to ask anything really in the course of an investigation. but thats about it. they can ask and request all they want and until there is a warrant you can say "kiss my shiny metal @ss"

[Turd_Ferguson]

well it isnt legal for them to ask anything really in the course of an investigation. but thats about it. they can ask and request all they want and until there is a warrant you can say "kiss my shiny metal @ss"You have a shiny metal ***? Oh....are your panty's in a knot:confused::pop:

[olevetonahill]

http://www.oddpic.com/data/512/its-a-trap-cat.gif

[yermom]

i'm glad i don't really know Penguin :D

[OUHOMER]

UMM, olevet has learned to add pics. He will be farking before you know it :D

[Turd_Ferguson]

UMM, olevet has learned to add pics. He will be farking before you know it :DOV taught Chuck Norris how to 1337 speak:hot:

[Penguin]

Of course, I can't give out too many details. It's a lot more fun this way. :D

[olevetonahill]

UMM, olevet has learned to add pics. He will be farking before you know it :D

Flag helped me learn that a yr ago :P

[lexsooner]

A family member was approached by a federal agent. He wants my relative to retrieve something for him. My relative asked, "Why don't you just get a search warrant?" This was his answer: "Sure, we could get a search warrant, but that would take time. It would just be a lot easier if you just got it for us."


WTF? Is it even legal for them to ask that? Very weird.

A warrantless search/retrieval would be legal if the person consents to it. It could get sticky if your relative agrees to the search or giving the item up but later claims he or she was coerced or strong-armed into consenting. More facts needed.

[BigRedJed]

Penguin is an odd bird.

[lexsooner]

If it was a federal agent, I am guessing the item(s) was: drugs/drug making items; hard drive of computer (child porn); financial/tax documents; firearm(s); cell phone or address book or answering machine tape. I might have guessed a copy of The Tin Drum, but it's a federal not state case.

[Okla-homey]

A warrantless search/retrieval would be legal if the person consents to it. It could get sticky if your relative agrees to the search or giving the item up but later claims he or she was coerced or strong-armed into consenting. More facts needed.


just hypothetically speaking, generally, the cops can't recruit family members, or anyone else for that matter, to conduct warrantless siezures for them. The siezure is imputed to the cop under those circs.

OTOH, if your innocent wife gets PO-ed at you, and of her own accord, calls the cops and decides to hand them your stash, that's different. In that situation, you be toast. Thus, criminals do well to avoid spouses who aren't also in it up to their necks.

[Jerk]

Federal cops aren't your friends, and they aren't there to help you. I would decline.

[Penguin]

My uncle passed away last week. The day after his funeral, a federale walked up to my dad and told him that they wanted to inspect some of my uncle's belongings.

I guess I shouldn't share the nitty gritty details yet. I think there is going to be a huge bust in the next few months. Don't want to tip off the bad guys.

[Okla-homey]

My uncle passed away last week. The day after his funeral, a federale walked up to my dad and told him that they wanted to inspect some of my uncle's belongings.

I guess I shouldn't share the nitty gritty details yet. I think there is going to be a huge bust in the next few months. Don't want to tip off the bad guys.

This isn't going to result in your going back to the Big House is it? ;)

[Penguin]

This isn't going to result in your going back to the Big House is it? ;)

They ain't taking me alive!!!! I won't go back!!!! :D

[Curly Bill]

I think Penguin may just be in the mafia. ;)

[Okla-homey]

I think Penguin may just be in the mafia. ;)

good point. I've seen all three Godfather movies and Goodfellas to boot. The Feds don't go to funerals just to pay their respects. They go to take pictures of who shows up.:eek:

[AlbqSooner]

Had a cop approach me to ask me about the existence, or not, of firearms in my home once. He did not know that I was an attorney and I certainly did not volunteer that information. When he began to ask questions I told him I did not care to participate. He then said, "Look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way, your choice."

When I asked him if the easy way was for me to give up all the rights guaranteed to me by the Constitution and the hard way was for him to do the job for which he had been trained and was being paid, he got all snippity. However, despite his snippiness he backed off.

I should tell you that I was in my late 40s at the time. I do not strongly recommend this course for a teenager or even an early 20s guy. In those cases the snippiness can and too often does result in an arrest for resisting a lawful order, if not a smack upside the head. They should not be able to win that one, but you are out a bunch of time, money and bad publicity to make the point that their behavior was wrong. Just tell them that without a warrant you cannot consent to a search.

[yermom]

"i do not consent to any searches"

i used that in place of "i plead the fifth" the other day in casual conversation

i thought it was funny :O

[Penguin]

It turns out the feds were looking for one particular item. It just so happens that somebody broke into the house during the funeral and the item they are looking for is now missing.

Coincidence? Yeah. I could probably write a novel or something.

[colleyvillesooner]

Dear Feds reading this thread,

I admit to partaking in the occasional back and forth with "penguin" (if that is his real name), but it was all just normal messageboard BS. Nothing more. we are not "friends".

Please keep in mind, it's just the Internet.

God bless America,

CVS

[mdklatt]

It turns out the feds were looking for one particular item. It just so happens that somebody broke into the house during the funeral and the item they are looking for is now missing.


It's not a computer chip or disk is it? Is this going to somehow hasten our demise at the hands of Skynet or result in another XXX sequel? :eek:


OMG that Circuit City ad is obnoxious.

[Taxman71]

It turns out the feds were looking for one particular item. It just so happens that somebody broke into the house during the funeral and the item they are looking for is now missing.

Coincidence? Yeah. I could probably write a novel or something.

I'm guessing it was pictures of a one-armed man allegedly involved with the death of a Dr.'s wife?

[frankensooner]

I bet it was an unlicensed exotic bird.

[Okla-homey]

I bet it was an unlicensed exotic bird.


or possession of a bald eagle feather.

[lexsooner]

It turns out the feds were looking for one particular item. It just so happens that somebody broke into the house during the funeral and the item they are looking for is now missing.

Coincidence? Yeah. I could probably write a novel or something.

Why do I suddenly have visions of Blutto (Belushi) in Animal House shrugging in feigned ignorance after they destroyed the car of Flounder's brother and decided to tell the insurance co. they don't know what happened?

Conservative = Liberal who has been mugged - "Gotta buy me a handgun, as much as I hate guns and deplore violence and love all."

Liberal = Conservative who has been imprisoned/under investigation by the cops - "The MAN is violating my due process rights. I'm a dues paying member of the FOP!!!!"