View Full Version : Is this Coach Coale's year?!
badger
8/27/2008, 11:29 AM
This has gotta be Coach Coale's year. I know we kind of lost our starting point guard and all, but it is the Paris twin's senior and final season. We have a great jumper/post in Amanda Thompson. We have 3-point specialists in Vining and others. We have speed that help us overcome past tourney foes. WE HAVE IT ALL! THIS IS OUR YEAR.
And now for our token Coach Coale picture, so this thread isn't worthless:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/2007/11/15/op4p-855.jpg
Coale needs to cut her bangs.
Thoughts on CHAMPIONSHIP YEAR?!
NormanPride
8/27/2008, 11:42 AM
Need maturity and consistency. Limiting turnovers would turn us from a good team into a great team.
birddog
8/27/2008, 12:00 PM
jenna has officially enrolled at lamar for those who don't know.
Ardmore_Sooner
8/27/2008, 12:39 PM
Whitney Hand is the next coming. Be ready folks.
badger
8/27/2008, 12:49 PM
jenna has officially enrolled at lamar for those who don't know.
http://www.lamar.edu/images/frontpage/LamarHeader1.jpg
Wow... that reeks of phail ;)
Anyway, back to the question at hand... we have come so close it seems so far - remember the loss to Stanford CP3's froshie year? The fightin' pine trees full of cardinals couldn't miss any shots they took. Then, there was the loss to Ole Miss, because they were speedier. Then, there was awful, awful Notre Dame last year.
I have watched the tournament ever since 2001 (I guess that would actually be 2002, as the 2001 season extends into 2002 when the March Madness is) and I can't understand why these teams aren't making it as far as that 2002 Final Four team with Stacey Dales (sans Schumann, pre-marriage and divorce). The next year, after having three first round draft picks (yes, the WNBA has a draft, thank you very much!), we lost in the first round at home, but then, the opportunity of a lifetime... ish... we could return home for rounds 16 and 8 to go to the Final Four again. Well, that didn't happen, because an exit in Tempe at the hands of the trees of doom. That was such a huge disappointment that the next year was kind of a blur - I think we snuck in the tourney ("snuck in" with a no. 8 seeding, lol) and lost in the first round, away from Norman this time.
NOW IT ENDS - CHAMPIONSHIP YEAR OR BUST.
tommieharris91
8/27/2008, 01:10 PM
I think losing Jenna is addition by subtraction. She seemed to turn the ball over a lot.
Boomer.....
8/27/2008, 01:16 PM
Since when did Vining and others become 3-point specialists? We were horrible last year and the only player that could hit was Jenna.
badger
8/27/2008, 01:34 PM
Since when did Vining and others become 3-point specialists? We were horrible last year and the only player that could hit was Jenna.
Well, there's Whitney Hand coming in, of course. But as for our existing players...
Vining is 14-of-77 overall in 3-pointers. This is fairly low percentage, yes, but then again, it's a low percentage shot and she was just a froshie last year. Her consistency will come along as she gets more experience at the college level. A few games in there, though, she really lit up.
So, I confused a few single-game performances with overall. I think it's fair to say if she played more often than freshmen usually do, she would have had more brilliant nights like those December moments that freshmen enjoy during non-conference play.
As for a certain point guard, I think her inconsistency was not just in turnovers, but also shooting. It was like her mind was elsewhere, thinking about what to do after the game instead of during. :(
Is this Coach Coale's year?!
No.
Unless she's actually going to be teaching proper passing angles this season. In which case, you know, maybe.
badger
8/27/2008, 02:34 PM
No.
Unless she's actually going to be teaching proper passing angles this season. In which case, you know, maybe.
passing... angles? You mean, like 180 degrees, as in straight angles? or are those 0 degrees... sorry, geometry class was like 10 years ago...
how about we just borrow those football receiver gloves from Stoops and Co. and catch the ball regardless of the passing angle? Surely Stoops could lend a hand. He already attends basketball games as is. :D
Oh my bad, I thought this was a thread by people who knew what the hell they were talking about.
The Paris twins can wear gloves, shoulderpads and helmets and it won't make a bit of difference if the rest of the team still has no idea how to get them the ball properly.
badger
8/27/2008, 02:47 PM
Oh my bad, I thought this was a thread by people who knew what the hell they were talking about.
The Paris twins can wear gloves, shoulderpads and helmets and it won't make a bit of difference if the rest of the team still has no idea how to get them the ball properly.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought people responding to the thread that I started knew what the hell they were talking about.
I think it is fairly obvious at this point that even if the Paris twins wear gloves, shoulder pads and helmets they will get the ball when their teammates do one simple thing: MISS.
That's right, MISS. You don't need a perfect angled pass to MISS a shot. You clank it off the rim, give Courtney another rebound to keep the little double-double streak going, Courtney will miss a shot of her own, and then make one. Two rebounds, two points for CP3 on that possession!
Come on, bri. I thought you were as big of a fan of OU women's basketball as me. Surely you've noticed by now that this is exactly how you pass the ball to either Paris. :D
Boomer.....
8/27/2008, 02:48 PM
Well it is kind of hard to get them the ball when they are triple teamed because of no outside shooting.
badger
8/27/2008, 02:51 PM
Well it is kind of hard to get them the ball when they are triple teamed because of no outside shooting.
Triple teamed, yes. That means that the opposing team has...
THREE players on CP3 (that's where she gets the number from, fyi - that's Sooner inside information like what AD actually stands for)
ONE player on the only outside-ish shooter, Amanda Thompson
ONE player on whoever has the ball.
So, Sooner Nation: How many of them will it take to screw in a light bulb? :D
Sooner04
8/27/2008, 04:03 PM
Well, there's Whitney Hand coming in, of course. But as for our existing players...
Vining is 14-of-77 overall in 3-pointers. This is fairly low percentage, yes, but then again, it's a low percentage shot and she was just a froshie last year.
Fairly low, my rear. Calvin the Paperboy could shoot better than that with his helmet on. 14-of-77, for you Einsteins out there, translates to 18%. 18%!!!!
On any given day, Sic'Em's got a better chance of seeing boobs than Vining does of hitting a trey.
You could round up five Hindus from the engineering department, suit them up, and at least three of them could hit at least 18%.
The Man from Nantucket could hit more than 18%, for God's sake.
Fairly low. Sheesh.
The three is only a low-percentage shot if you suck at it.
Sooner04
8/27/2008, 04:07 PM
Have we brought anyone on campus who can pass? I'm not talking about passes to Paris that end up drilling a saxophone player in the face on one hop. I'm talking about a legit bounce-pass to where Paris can catch it and lay it in off the glass. We haven't had a player like that in a while, and it absolutely kills us.
The guard in me cannot watch a team that consistently turns the ball over 25 times a game. It's un-American.
Dude, the point guard in me can't stand to watch us turn it over every trip down the court. The shooting guard in me can't stand to watch us be unable to hit anything beyond an unguarded five-footer. The small forward in me can't stand to watch post players who can't move and create their own offense.
badger
8/27/2008, 04:36 PM
Um... and the center in you?
PS: 04, overreact much? :) If it was a Texas player, I'd probably trash 18 percent also, but this is one of our own here. I have every confidence that Vining will drastically improve off that froshie stat in the coming season. For comparison's sake, JP shot about 30 percent last season, if I can trust the pages that still have her statistics up. I would think that Vining will get between 25-30 next season, which will not win her awards, but will not be too shabby, either.
Never played center. I'm only 6'4.
badger
8/27/2008, 04:53 PM
Never played center. I'm only 6'4.
Cheeky ;)
Ok then... the bench-player-out-for-many-weeks-with-mono player in me says that I will cheer regardless, but be extra sad if they don't pull off what they're capable of this year.
Sooner04
8/27/2008, 05:01 PM
30% from three with the ball they use is also awful. It's just not as cataclysmically awful as 18%. If you're a shooter, and you shoot 18% from three, then what are you? A tree that falls in the woods that nobody hears? Does it really fall? Does she really shoot?
Or is she chunking and hoping?
Kelley Newton, that dude was a shooter.
badger
8/27/2008, 05:11 PM
30% from three with the ball they use is also awful. It's just not as cataclysmically awful as 18%. If you're a shooter, and you shoot 18% from three, then what are you? A tree that falls in the woods that nobody hears? Does it really fall? Does she really shoot?
Or is she chunking and hoping?
Kelley Newton, that dude was a shooter.
Yeah, but I just don't want to focus on the negatives of a mostly-bench statistics of a freshman. I think she still has great shooting potential. JP had a much higher percentage her first year - about 36, I think. Still not record setting, but showed that JP was heading in the wrong direction :(
The top shooters every year have it in the 40-50 range, but that's usually where it ends - you just don't see the same percentages at the 3-line that you do at... say... the free throw line (unless you are CP3, lol). I agree that the women's 3-point-line (which used to just be the college line) should make the shot easier to hit, but as the NBA's shown us, having a closer line can also make it easier for defenses to block 3pt attempts too. It will be interesting to see how the men's game adjusts...
...but back on topic, I think the turnover thingy will be the biggest obstacle to overcome in order to get the championship OU so desperately wants. This has GOTTA be the year!
Curly Bill
8/27/2008, 08:45 PM
OUr guards don't shoot well and they don't pass well....
...so no, it's not Coach Coale's year.
Luckily, most of the alleged "fan base" for the women's basketball program only cares that Sherri has them big ol' titties, so as long as she keeps breaking out the clingy low-cut stuff for the televised losses, no one is gonna care.
badger
8/28/2008, 09:45 AM
Luckily, most of the alleged "fan base" for the women's basketball program only cares that Sherri has them big ol' titties, so as long as she keeps breaking out the clingy low-cut stuff for the televised losses, no one is gonna care.
I've heard that's what initially draws fans in to a college women's basketball program, then people stay for the whole competition aspect
stoopified
8/30/2008, 04:19 PM
No.
Unless she's actually going to be teaching proper passing angles this season. In which case, you know, maybe.You heretic,thhat statement is blasphemy.Burn , bay, burn.
then people stay for the whole competition aspect
No. It's the Tig ol' bitties.
No. It's the Tig ol' bitties.
Oh yeah, that's why I watch football. Them lineman, man, they've got some big knockers, don't they?
:eek:
;)
OU_Sooners75
9/1/2008, 02:35 PM
The three is only a low-percentage shot if you suck at it.
Name one ouside shooter that makes more than 50% of their three pointers.
Fact is the 3 is the lowest percentage shoot in the game. Unless of course you are the US Mens Olympic team, then it is the free throw.
Name one ouside shooter that makes more than 50% of their three pointers.
Fact is the 3 is the lowest percentage shoot in the game. Unless of course you are the US Mens Olympic team, then it is the free throw.
Again, I was just being nice to our own players here. I know that the top 3 shooters get close to 50 and that the top-top ones can get between 50 and 60. Forgive me for spamming Sooner propaganda or whatever, but I think that to put a positive spin on this, there's only room for improvement on the 3-point-line.
As for other areas, we are very good. Rebounding, free throws and shooting in general are not of any concern. The main improvement areas are long distance shots and passing. With incoming freshmen and another season of experience for our starters (sans the PG, of course), I can only see upside.
That is why, once again, I must insist that this is OU's year. We must win, and win now!
Have we miraculously became an athletic team with ladies who can actually move their feet on D? If not, then no, it's not Coach Coale's year. She'll do well because of the Paris twins. Next year will be interesting to say the least.
Have we miraculously became an athletic team with ladies who can actually move their feet on D? If not, then no, it's not Coach Coale's year. She'll do well because of the Paris twins. Next year will be interesting to say the least.
Who needs to move the feet on D when all Paris has to do is put her hands up and the opposing teams automatically go into "MISS SHOT" mode? (unless you are that chick from Okie State, whose name I don't wish to remember, so don't remind me, kplzthx).
We have speed now at pretty much every position except for the taller positions (and by that, I mean whatever position you want to assign CP3 and Amanda "Let's give her a cool nickname before she graduates" Thompson). I would say they are not purely center and power forward, but rather wing/post.
...ok, I think I've served my purpose here and can now go back to football non-stop. I was just irritated that the thread I started with Blake lasted as long as it did and disliked seeing it popping to the top over and over, so I sunk to the lowest common denominator: Coach Coale. It never fails to get you guys talking and when another weird cop acts weirdly again, I will likely resort to this again. But, good conversation! Fortunately, I have enough confidence in our women's (and men's) basketball team for all of us, so let us table this discussion until November, when I remind you all that THIS, people, is THE year!
...or, until the need arises for a diversion thread :D
Salt City Sooner
9/1/2008, 07:33 PM
Again, I was just being nice to our own players here. I know that the top 3 shooters get close to 50 and that the top-top ones can get between 50 and 60. Forgive me for spamming Sooner propaganda or whatever, but I think that to put a positive spin on this, there's only room for improvement on the 3-point-line.
As for other areas, we are very good. Rebounding, free throws and shooting in general are not of any concern. The main improvement areas are long distance shots and passing. With incoming freshmen and another season of experience for our starters (sans the PG, of course), I can only see upside.
That is why, once again, I must insist that this is OU's year. We must win, and win now!
Free throws are a major concern. Aside from the top 2 girls in that department, one of whom is now gone (Jenna was #1, Amanda was #2), OU as a team shot a whopping 62% from the line, & our interior players (Courtney & Ashley) are of particular concern. Both shot less than 60%, & for a team whose emphasis is pounding it inside, that just isn't going to work. Getting the foul called is nice, but it's rendered pretty much moot when you let the opposition off the hook by throwing up bricks from the line (PRIMO example would be the game w/ Tennessee last year where OU lost by 3 & went 13/25 from the line). Hopefully they, along with the rest of the team, have spent a major chunk of time over the summer working on this.
NormanPride
9/2/2008, 04:40 PM
Wow. This thread is depressing. I wish we didn't suck so much.
Wow. This thread is depressing. I wish we didn't suck so much.
Yes, but at least "SOMEBODY FIND BLAKE A BATHROOM" isn't on the main page anymore as the most recently posted basketball thread. I found that more depressing than people complaining that our team can't do anything right... if for no other reason than the title is not annoying.
if for no other reason than the title is not annoying.
As opposed to 8,000 mind numbingly long and incoherent posts. ;) I kid b/c I care.
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