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SoonerKnight
8/6/2008, 11:13 PM
To a Michigan fan who claimed they had the second most National Championships in college. I have never met a Michigan fan before and wow the lack of knowledge is overwhelming so I rang the bell and called calss in session! :D

He also tried to say that Alabama had the most titles of any other school! :rolleyes:

goingoneight
8/6/2008, 11:22 PM
Unfortunately, people rediscovered fake MNCs a few years back. Now all of a sudden USC has 11, Bammer has 12, Ohio State has 8 and Meatchicken has 11.

olevetonahill
8/6/2008, 11:26 PM
And WE HAVE 7 That we Brag about .
those other schools that claim 19 or whatevar are Like the Limp dicks In the Nam that Was Happy as Pigs eatin shat . to get a Purple heart .
Fags

KingDavid
8/6/2008, 11:27 PM
To a Michigan fan who claimed they had the second most National Championships in college. I have never met a Michigan fan before and wow the lack of knowledge is overwhelming so I rang the bell and called calss in session! :D

He also tried to say that Alabama had the most titles of any other school! :rolleyes:

Fail that student, promptly.

SoonerKnight
8/7/2008, 02:36 AM
I schooled him and then I introduced him to the guy at work who is an Ohio State fan! I let them have words and walked. He is a new guy at work. He needs to learn about football though! Reminds me of and osu or saxet fan really! Not very smart! :D

MichiganSooner
8/7/2008, 08:29 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

OUMallen
8/7/2008, 08:33 AM
I won a national title in football in 1472.

badger
8/7/2008, 08:36 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

Umm... are you a MICHIGAN or are you a SOONER?

OUDoc
8/7/2008, 08:40 AM
Not a lot of recent ones, I see.

MichiganSooner
8/7/2008, 08:43 AM
I'm a both. I went there 1970-74. I have lived here for 12 years. My son is an OU graduate and 5-year member of the Pride. My daughter is a senior at OU. Never see M on tv anymore because I go to our games and most are not broadcast out here anyway. I can't give you any players names from their team. The biggest thing I do is surf the local newspapers the week of the ohio game.

Boomer Sooner

I check my blood everyday. It's Red not maize and blue.

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 08:53 AM
mythical NC's and who they were voted on by...they have 1 outright title and several during a time where 3 teams were given one by the 10 organizations that gave them away

1997
Michigan: AP, FB News, FW, National Championship Foundation*, NFF, Sporting News
Nebraska: Alderson, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, Matthews, National Championship Foundation*, NY Times, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN


1948
Michigan: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Poling, Sagarin, Williamson

1947
Michigan: Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Helms*, Houlgate, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Poling, Sagarin
Notre Dame: AP, Helms*, Williamson



1933
Michigan: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Helms, Houlgate, Football Research, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis*, Poling
Ohio St.: Dunkel
Princeton: Parke Davis*
Southern California: Williamson

1932
Colgate: Parke Davis*
Michigan: Dickinson, Parke Davis*
Southern California: Billingsley, Boand, Dunkel, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis*, Poling, Williamson

1923
California: Houlgate
Illinois: Boand, Football Research, Helms, National Championship Foundation*, Parke Davis
Michigan: Billingsley, National Championship Foundation*

1918
Michigan: Billingsley, National Championship Foundation*
Pittsburgh: Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation*

1904
Michigan: Billingsley, National Championship Foundation*
Pennsylvania: Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation*, Parke Davis

1903
Michigan: Billingsley, National Championship Foundation*
Princeton: Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation*, Parke Davis

1902
Michigan: Billingsley, Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis*
Yale: Parke Davis*

1901
Harvard: Billingsley
Michigan: Helms, Houlgate, National Championship Foundation
Yale: Parke Davis

sooneron
8/7/2008, 08:56 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

No, they aren't. Back in the days before the two polls you had every swinging dick out there claiming that year's championship was their team. In 1926, Meatchicken shared with FOUR other teams. No one in their right mind would claim that. 1923, THREE other teams... 1904, two other teams
1932, two other teams. That year, they got the nod from DiS, whatever the **** that is. 1933, Three other teams shared it. It was basically MORE of a cluster**** before the national polling started in 1936. And the retr-active crap is just that, crap.

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 09:01 AM
So if you wanna count all of those then Oklahoma has 16 awarded to them

1949, 1950, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1980, 1985, 1986, 2000, 2003

Jacie
8/7/2008, 09:01 AM
Hey MichiganSooner, since you don't get a lot of news about your alma mater in Oklahoma (I get plenty of opps to see em on tv here in upstate NY) here's an update for ya, I hear they got a new coach . . .

OUDoc
8/7/2008, 09:02 AM
And the retro-active crap is just that, crap.

Yeah, I can't stand going back and claiming something that wasn't important enough to claim at the time. Seems like if you really won a MNC, you might notice it right away.

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 09:04 AM
In my big long post, all those asterisks are groups that crowned more than 1 team NC ie Parke Davis in '32 giving theirs to 3 teams

douxpaysan
8/7/2008, 09:05 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

...and the forward pass was not legal until 1906.:pop:

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 09:06 AM
I just taught class..werd to yermom

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 09:07 AM
And Alabama claims NC's given to them by the tuscaloosa times or aunt mabel

Collier11
8/7/2008, 09:53 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

Exactly, they have 1 recognized natl title

CU Sooner
8/7/2008, 09:59 AM
I believe aunt mabel is one of the harris poll voters now.:D

badger
8/7/2008, 10:13 AM
Hmmm...

mythical NC's and who they were voted on by...they have 1 outright title and several during a time where 3 teams were given one by the 10 organizations that gave them away

1997
Michigan: AP, FB News, FW, National Championship Foundation*, NFF, Sporting News
Nebraska: Alderson, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, Matthews, National Championship Foundation*, NY Times, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN


1948
Michigan: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Poling, Sagarin, Williamson

1947
Notre Dame: AP, Helms*, Williamson



1933
<scene b'leted>

1932
<missing scene>

1923
<???>

1918
<SYNTAX ERROR>

1904
<ACHIEVEMENT STILL LOCKED>

1903
<MORNING w/o COFFEE ERROR>

1902
<BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH>

1901
<RED RING OF DEATH>

I count two championships.

Alabama and their 13 national titles (remember that Nick Satan got the recruiting national championship this past spring) were quite boastful about their 12 national titles when we played them back in 2002-03 (they wouldn't have had their 13th by then, as it was only 2002 and 2003, not yet 2008, so DO NOT TRY TO CORRECT ME!).

Of course, when ESPN gameday and others hyped the matchup, they said there were 13 championships between the two schools. This meant that they either only counted our 2000 championship (but its ESPN, so I'm sure they still think Miami would have beaten us), or they didn't count certain Bammer math championships... or perhaps, they foresee into the future of Satan's 2008 championship?

Bama, unlike cheap-o tradition schools, should not have to count fake championships when you have so many legitimate championships. The same goes for USC. Michigan has other "titles" to be proud of, such as the all-time winningest program in college football history, the all-time winning percentage, the all-time conference titles record (soon to be tied and broken by OU, currently at 41. Michigan has 42). Thus, why is Michigan trying to claim 11 national titles? Is the state of the auto industry really THAT depressing? Geeeeez. You know, Meatchicken, Ohio is bummed out about the state of the Midwest population flight to the air conditioned snow-free south too, but you don't see them claiming championships left and right... then again, tOSU does claim 7.

If ESPN is going to proclaim some s!!!town the new Titletown, USA, maybe it's time they declare championships from each year, hmm?

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 10:17 AM
I thought you would appreciate my post

tommieharris91
8/7/2008, 11:27 AM
Can we just start saying we have 19 MNCs and say our last one was in 2003 now? I like saying we have 7 handed to us by the major outlets, too, but if everyone keeps saying this, can we just start claiming NCs given to us by Aunt Jemima, too?

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 11:30 AM
The mcalester newspaper sports editor just told me he would award a NC for the '95 season if I wanted him to

CU Sooner
8/7/2008, 11:33 AM
Aaahhhh, the 95 season, the season they would write books and make movies about

tommieharris91
8/7/2008, 11:34 AM
We should be able to get an NC for that season for suffering through John Blake.

stoops the eternal pimp
8/7/2008, 11:35 AM
thats right...schlitzenbergers prediction coming true

SbOrOiNaEnR
8/7/2008, 11:51 AM
If it wasn't awarded by the AP or UPI (or CNN, or ESPN, or USA Today, or whoever else has had their name on the Coaches Poll over the years) pre-1998, it didn't happen. If it wasn't awarded by the BCS post-1998, it didn't happen.

Oh, and USC's 1974 UPI title doesn't count either.

TMcGee86
8/7/2008, 12:05 PM
Even when ESPN ridiculously put Ann Arbor on the list for "Titletown" they said Meatchicken only had 3 Football championships.

Jdog
8/7/2008, 12:24 PM
StEP's list came from the best link on the subject:

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html
http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072604aaa.html

In 2004 USuC claimed 1939 as one of their 11. It's sad, but they were stealing A&M's only nat'l Championship year. Aggies have a point because they won the AP and several others - they were undefeated as was USuC but who had 2 ties.

mdklatt
8/7/2008, 12:29 PM
1997

That one is a crock. Nebraska would have rolled Michigan like a stroller, just like they did everyone else that year.

Pigface1
8/7/2008, 01:03 PM
So if you wanna count all of those then Oklahoma has 16 awarded to them

1949, 1950, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1980, 1985, 1986, 2000, 2003

Exactly. Are we counting real titles or titles awarded by Better Homes & Gardens? Can't have it both ways. OU has 7 AP titles and 16 total if you count the ones Michigan, Bama, USC, etc, like to claim.

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/images/smilies/mikegundyhc4.gif

RedstickSooner
8/7/2008, 01:03 PM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

No.

They haven't.

THERE WAS NO NATIONAL CHAMPION PRIOR TO 1934.

How simply do we have to put this? How many times do we have to repeat it?

Having some numbnut historian look at the figures from 80 years ago and "award" a "championship" is the dumbest idea since thalidomide.

Starting in 1934, because fans wanted it, the AP began giving teams championships based on the final AP poll ranking. It still wasn't a championship in the sense that the top two teams played for it, and that determined the winner, but it was all we had 'til the BCS was formed.

I guess it shouldn't be surprising that after 20 years of parents giving every clumsy, oafish kid to set foot on a playing field a trophy for participation, effort, sportsmanship & not losing his or her jersey all season long, it shouldn't surprise us that twits are running around giddily clutching "awards" that didn't exist for the years they're being claimed.

Calling yourself a national champion in 1901 would be like me deciding my ancestor "won" President of the United States in 1742. Doing so would brand me, at best, as willfully ignorant of reality. And, at worst, as an utter assclown.

I can't believe this subject still comes up.

JLEW1818
8/7/2008, 01:18 PM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.


So basically only 1 that matters (1997).

The Maestro
8/7/2008, 01:34 PM
The mcalester newspaper sports editor just told me he would award a NC for the '95 season if I wanted him to

That is one great freaking post and summarizes how bammer fans and apparently some michigan fans come across.

JLEW1818
8/7/2008, 01:45 PM
The mcalester newspaper sports editor just told me he would award a NC for the '95 season if I wanted him to

haha.. STEP you much of a lamb fry eater?

cheezyq
8/7/2008, 02:17 PM
So basically only 1 that matters (1997).

I'd disagree if your basis was solely on the fact that 1997 was in the "recent" era. Bud won us some nice titles in the 50s that I'd like to still count, and most "experts" consider anything post-WWII to be the "modern" era anyway.

But, I'd still say that they have only 2 ('47 & '48), bcuz the Rose Bowl wasn't a national championship game. I'm pretty confident that Nebraska would have crushed Michigan that year. But regardless, the Pac/Big 10/Rose Bowl wussed out of the Bowl Alliance/Coalition picture until '98, which pretty much makes any Rose Bowl game between 1992 and 1998 irrelevant in the MNC picture.

And I'm not saying that bcuz I hate Michigan, either. I like the Wolverines...most of the time.

picasso
8/7/2008, 03:12 PM
it's pronounced Bitchigan.

r5TPsooner
8/7/2008, 03:59 PM
To a Michigan fan who claimed they had the second most National Championships in college. I have never met a Michigan fan before and wow the lack of knowledge is overwhelming so I rang the bell and called calss in session! :D

He also tried to say that Alabama had the most titles of any other school! :rolleyes:

Some of the most arrogant fans you'll ever want to meet. They have a great college as far as academics but they are just above average in athletics. However, you could never tell.

BTW, I hired a Michigan graduate once when I lived in Wisconsin.

ONCE.

Harry Beanbag
8/7/2008, 04:05 PM
I think it's hilarious that this will be 139th season of college football yet schools lay claim to approximately 437 national championships.

Jason White's Third Knee
8/7/2008, 04:08 PM
And WE HAVE 7 That we Brag about .
those other schools that claim 19 or whatevar are Like the Limp dicks In the Nam that Was Happy as Pigs eatin shat . to get a Purple heart .
Fags


Sheesh! A little harsh today, vet!!!

JLEW1818
8/7/2008, 04:09 PM
I'd disagree if your basis was solely on the fact that 1997 was in the "recent" era. Bud won us some nice titles in the 50s that I'd like to still count, and most "experts" consider anything post-WWII to be the "modern" era anyway.

But, I'd still say that they have only 2 ('47 & '48), bcuz the Rose Bowl wasn't a national championship game. I'm pretty confident that Nebraska would have crushed Michigan that year. But regardless, the Pac/Big 10/Rose Bowl wussed out of the Bowl Alliance/Coalition picture until '98, which pretty much makes any Rose Bowl game between 1992 and 1998 irrelevant in the MNC picture.

And I'm not saying that bcuz I hate Michigan, either. I like the Wolverines...most of the time.


Not saying that. 1950 till present is the new modern day, lol. But the ones in the early 1900's could be giving to anybody.

Jason White's Third Knee
8/7/2008, 04:18 PM
Not saying that. 1950 till present is the new modern day, lol. But the ones in the early 1900's could be giving to anybody.

I fyou look at who the titles went to and who the 'champs' played it sounds hilarious. I haven't looked in a while but some of Notre Dames early victories were against high schools, athletic clubs and medical schools.

As I recall we have had 14 undefeated seasons since the beginning (I think we went 2-0 one year) and many of them we weren't even considered a champ of any sort.

If we retroactively claim undefeated years and oddball #1 rankings we would have something like 22 MNCs.

r5TPsooner
8/7/2008, 04:37 PM
Michigan is the new Alabama.

Spartan(Sooner at Heart)
8/7/2008, 05:12 PM
I'll readily admit that I'm biased, but the vast majority Michigan fans are completely delusional about their program.

stoops the eternal pimp
8/8/2008, 08:23 AM
haha.. STEP you much of a lamb fry eater?

No sir...Chicken parm all the way..

SoonerKnight
8/8/2008, 09:47 AM
Michigan has won 11 national titles in football.

1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1918, 1923, 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948, and 1997.

I don't know where that ranks. But they are national championships and it happened 11 times.

You can join the class! Here do some research:

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html

Here is an example of ignorant! Find the real National Champion!
I gues Oklahoma can claim their 16 titles too right! :rolleyes:
There's only one Oklahoma and there is only one National Title Winner all others do not count!

1973
Alabama: Berryman, UPI
Michigan: National Championship Foundation*, Poling*
Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation*, NFFOhio St.: FACT, National Championship Foundation*, Poling*
Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin

MichiganSooner
8/8/2008, 02:24 PM
Sorry guys, I didn't know this was so controversial. I guess Fielding Yost's point a minute teams were not national champs. I didn't realize that M shared the honors with so many other teams back in the first half of the century. As far as I know, Michigan fans do not go around saying they won 11 titles. I had no idea they "had 11". When I first read this post I googled: Michigan Football National Titles" and a fan's web site said 11 and gave dates. And I put them in the thread.

I was a fan when I first started paying attention to college football at age 12and I went to Michigan Stadium as a Boy Scout usher and saw Bob Griese of Purdue win with a late field goal. A couple years later, Bo became the coach. Bo never talked about national titles. The team goal was just to win the Big Ten title and go to the Rose Bowl. That was it.

MI Sooner
8/8/2008, 02:55 PM
Bo never talked about national titles. The team goal was just to win the Big Ten title and go to the Rose Bowl. That was it.

...and oddly enough, he never won any. I still maintain that Bo's greatest success was convincing Michigan fans to be content with conference championships and be happy to receive an annual azz-whuppin in a bowl game. Now, if Bob Stoops could pull of the same trick, there wouldn't be a bunch of distraught fans here on January 2 every year calling more massive upheaval (I've been one of them, but in my defense, I was drunk).

Oh, I also like how we emphasize the modern era (when we became consistently good), Texas fans emphasize 10-win seasons (they have a bunch in a row), LSU fans chirp about the BCS era, and oSu fans dwell on, well, um... oSu is an up-and-coming team.

Lucky for us, no matter what you choose to emphasize, we generally fare pretty well.

Jacie
8/8/2008, 03:46 PM
I think it's hilarious that this will be 139th season of college football yet schools lay claim to approximately 437 national championships.

Aah, consistency, the hobgoblin of small minds.

OUgradJeff
8/8/2008, 06:30 PM
So if you wanna count all of those then Oklahoma has 16 awarded to them

1949, 1950, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1978, 1980, 1985, 1986, 2000, 2003

17.

You forgot about 1915.

Big Red Ron
8/8/2008, 07:39 PM
Hashing this out, the real championships vs. claimed or at least counting them all the same way would make some ESPN or SI baby journalist a legend. Just sayin'

StoopTroup
8/8/2008, 08:18 PM
I can live with OUr number being 22.

So this year will be 23.

I like it.

In 2010-11 we'll have our 25th.

We'll probably have to add on to the Switzer Center by then. :D

http://www.rockwoodcomic.com/wedding/graphics/legends-lobby.JPEG

SteelClip49
8/9/2008, 09:13 AM
NCAA.org doesn't tell the whole story.

www.cfbdatawarehouse.com is a better site and teams that do have more titles than they should or teams that have no titles but are given national titles by this site are based on not winning the AP and/or UPI but still won over 50 percent of the selectors that were available....therefore that is why some claim a "consensus" national championship.

Examples include.....Tennessee in 1950, Michigan State in 1966, Michigan in 1947 (which is legit, btw), Georgia in 1942, Tennessee in 1938....just a few examples.

Selectors started in the mid to late 20s and while some were not recognized....for a certain amount of time....and ones that did go back and retroactively choose champions...Helms, NCF or NFF, CFRA were looked at as the main/recognized selectors prior to the AP and UPI.

Michigan has only 5 nationally recognized legit titles= 1932, 1933, 1947, 1948 and 1997. Michigan has 3 since the AP began but a lot of people outside Michigan only say they have two....1948 and 1997. Notre Dame was named the AP national champion in 1947 but after the season/bowls....an un-official AP poll was taken (un-official because there was already one done before) and later named Michigan as their champion....therefore 1947 was a co-AP title season.

Alabama feels they were screwed in 1945 and 1966 because they went undefeated and didn't get respect....yet they claim 1941 in which they finished #20 in the AP.....but USC and Bammer fans will claim the AP wasn't well known around the country yet and will say 1939 and 1941 are title years.

USC claims an 11th title because of their AD and Board of Trustees wanting to recognized the remaining members of the 1939 team that went unbeaten and defeated Tennessee in the Rose Bowl.

Officially recognized legit national title count:

Notre Dame 11
Alabama 11
Southern Cal 10
Oklahoma 7
Minnesota 6
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Ohio State 5
Michigan 5

Harry Beanbag
8/9/2008, 10:55 AM
You forgot a couple.

Princeton 24
Yale 19

JLEW1818
8/9/2008, 11:00 AM
JLEW= 1000 !!!!! wish vet was here, he is fishing.

Flagstaffsooner
8/9/2008, 11:10 AM
Bama is on the verge of another championship (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/08/07/fulmer-cupdate-finals-time/)

Flagstaffsooner
8/9/2008, 11:30 AM
Aaahhhh, the 95 season, the season they would write books and make movies aboutThe year we won the.....
http://www.samswine.com/imagemagic.php?img=images/products/49940.jpg&w=399&h=600&page=popup

Trophy

olevetonahill
8/9/2008, 04:18 PM
JLEW= 1000 !!!!! wish vet was here, he is fishing.

I here Now . Grats on surviving this long :P

Big Red Ron
8/9/2008, 07:08 PM
Officially recognized legit national title count:

Notre Dame 11
Alabama 11
Southern Cal 10
Oklahoma 7
Minnesota 6
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Ohio State 5
Michigan 5
That isn't right either. If you count the only fair way to count them it looks like this...

AP

Rank Team Total Last
1 Notre Dame 8 1988
2 Oklahoma 7 2000
3 Alabama 6 1992
4t Miami 5 2001
4t USC 5 2004
6t Minnesota 4 1960
6t Nebraska 4 1995
6t Ohio State 4 2002

Coaches

Rank Team Total Last
1t Oklahoma 6 2000
1t USC 6 2004
3 Alabama 5 1992
4t Miami 4 2001
4t Nebraska 4 1997
4t Texas 4 2005
7t Notre Dame 3 1988

Most Poll Era National Championships
The "Poll Era" began in 1936, the first season a poll (Associated Press poll) determined the national champion. Some sources only recognize a consensus championship as one of the Poll Era.

Team Recognized titles Winning years
Notre Dame 10 1938, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1953, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Oklahoma 9 1949, 1950, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Alabama 8 1945, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992
USC 8 1939, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Ohio State 7 1942, 1944, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 2002
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
Michigan 3 1947, 1948, 1997
Pittsburgh 3 1936, 1937, 1976

Collier11
8/9/2008, 08:14 PM
why can people not understand this, it isnt that hard. BRR is correct, the rest of you arguing against him are wrong

Jdog
8/10/2008, 02:03 PM
That isn't right either. If you count the only fair way to count them it looks like this...

AP

Rank Team Total Last
1 Notre Dame 8 1988
2 Oklahoma 7 2000
3 Alabama 6 1992
4t Miami 5 2001
4t USC 5 2004
6t Minnesota 4 1960
6t Nebraska 4 1995
6t Ohio State 4 2002

Coaches

Rank Team Total Last
1t Oklahoma 6 2000
1t USC 6 2004
3 Alabama 5 1992
4t Miami 4 2001
4t Nebraska 4 1997
4t Texas 4 2005
7t Notre Dame 3 1988

Most Poll Era National Championships
The "Poll Era" began in 1936, the first season a poll (Associated Press poll) determined the national champion. Some sources only recognize a consensus championship as one of the Poll Era.

Team Recognized titles Winning years
Notre Dame 10 1938, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1953, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Oklahoma 9 1949, 1950, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Alabama 8 1945, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992
USC 8 1939, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Ohio State 7 1942, 1944, 1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 2002
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
Michigan 3 1947, 1948, 1997
Pittsburgh 3 1936, 1937, 1976

Two questions:

* Is there a link to support your post (or is this your research)?
* and what is a "Team Recognized Title"? According to SC's AD they recognizes 11.

Big Red Ron
8/12/2008, 06:06 PM
Two questions:

* Is there a link to support your post (or is this your research)?
* and what is a "Team Recognized Title"? According to SC's AD they recognizes 11.
Read the paragraph above and look at the header line like this...

Team - Recognized titles - Winning years

I thought the caps would suffice. That's my interpretation of others' research.

goingoneight
8/12/2008, 08:56 PM
I find it funny that ESPN and ABC said for years that Notre Dame had eight, that being the most, Oklahoma next up at 6, Nebraska, Bammer and SC 3WT at 5 and the rest were a bunch of ties for 4, 3 and 2.

Hell, I remember the OU/Bammer game in 2003, the exact same numbers BRR posted were updated with Miami's 5 and Oklahoma's 7... now all of a sudden Bammer has 12, USC up and won 6 MNCs in five years time :eek:, and now Michigan and Ohio State are claiming multiple titles as well.

Hell, there was a funny article leading up to USC's fall camp last year where their all-knowing athletic director announced they were celebrating a new MNC from like... 50 years ago that they supposedly didn't know they even had.

Collier11
8/12/2008, 08:59 PM
Read the paragraph above and look at the header line like this...

Team - Recognized titles - Winning years

I thought the caps would suffice. That's my interpretation of others' research.

apparently some of these nancies cant read ;)

goingoneight
8/12/2008, 09:09 PM
Who you gonna blame... we're mullet wearin' fairweather fan cheatin' dumb ole gooners. :D

Fraggle145
8/13/2008, 01:38 AM
The only title we dont claim that I wish we did was 1949... In the interview with Bud Wilkinson thread (from about 2 years ago "the VIIth" posted it) he claimed 1949 season as a national title year. I'll try to searh for it...

If Bud claims it then I claim it...

OUDoc
8/13/2008, 08:21 AM
Hell, there was a funny article leading up to USC's fall camp last year where their all-knowing athletic director announced they were celebrating a new MNC from like... 50 years ago that they supposedly didn't know they even had.

I remember that and it burns my ***. If the guys 50 years ago weren't recognized for it, odds are good it doesn't exist.

SteelClip49
8/13/2008, 02:47 PM
BRR and Collier...I am right just to let you know. There were selectors prior to the AP and at a certain time, one or two were deemed the legit selector, even if it's disputed where as an AP and UPI claim is undisputed.

I have done my research and know what I am talking about. So, I will leave it at that and we can dispute whatever as the season goes on.

badger
8/13/2008, 02:55 PM
Everybody thinks their right > Everybody is right.

Until there is an official sanctioning for national championships each year (the bcs, the ap poll, the coaches poll, et al are NOT official as per NCAA), this will never be a settled debate.

We can claim 16, but only claim 7. Bama can claim 12 and claims 12. Michigan can claim 11 and claims 11. Notre Dame can claim a million but only claims eight.

We shouldn't do something just because everyone else does something. Why worry about what other schools are doing? We are Oklahoma. They are not.

Big Red Ron
8/13/2008, 02:57 PM
BRR and Collier...I am right just to let you know. There were selectors prior to the AP and at a certain time, one or two were deemed the legit selector, even if it's disputed where as an AP and UPI claim is undisputed.

I have done my research and know what I am talking about. So, I will leave it at that and we can dispute whatever as the season goes on.I understand that their were selectors before. However, since most were regional fish wraps picking their home team, I'm not impressed. The national media wasn't either until the last 3 or 4 years. For my entire life, until 2000, I read in the national media that; ND had 8, OU and Bama had 6, etc... Now, we're going to count retro championships? Not in my book. Look at who Alabama, Minn., ND., Mich., etc played in the early 20th century. Nursing schools, Lion's Clubs, jeez Louise.