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achiro
8/4/2008, 09:42 PM
that he wants to give everyone a $500 refund check directly from the "big oil companies record profits"?

tommieharris91
8/4/2008, 09:44 PM
Something to that effect, yes.

olevetonahill
8/4/2008, 09:45 PM
that he wants to give everyone a $500 refund check directly from the "big oil companies record profits"?

Nope
It was 1000 bucks:rolleyes: I think he was gonna do a windfall profits tax on to Get the Money back

mdklatt
8/4/2008, 09:46 PM
that he wants to give everyone a $500 refund check directly from the "big oil companies record profits"?

I heard he wanted to give a $1000 "stimulus payment" to everyone. It's supposed to help with energy costs, but I didn't hear anything about it coming from energy companies.

olevetonahill
8/4/2008, 09:52 PM
I heard he wanted to give a $1000 "stimulus payment" to everyone. It's supposed to help with energy costs, but I didn't hear anything about it coming from energy companies.

It was in a Vid that I saw about It coming from the Oil companies
But Wasnt he against the LAST stimuls thing ?

soonersn20xx
8/4/2008, 09:52 PM
I heard he wanted to give a $1000 "stimulus payment" to everyone. It's supposed to help with energy costs, but I didn't hear anything about it coming from energy companies.
Yes mdklatt, he has proposed it be a windfall profit tax on oil companies to pay for this. This idea is every bit as bad as the offshore drilling plan to address the energy issue.

/awaits green spek now from my right-wing comrades for being fair and balanced.

mdklatt
8/4/2008, 09:55 PM
Yes mdklatt, he has proposed it be a windfall profit tax on oil companies to pay for this.

Yeah, that's dumb.

Fraggle145
8/4/2008, 09:56 PM
Even I dont know if I agree with this move... Hell I'll take it tho.. :P

Gimme my vcash!

SCOUT
8/4/2008, 09:57 PM
I think the windfall tax concept should apply to Hollywood. The Dark Knight has a profit margin of over 100% after only two weeks. If that isn't a windfall, I don't know what is.

sooner_born_1960
8/4/2008, 09:58 PM
My vote cannot be bought for $1000 and bad policy. Obama needs to go sharpen his pencil, and see if he can't come up with a better offer.

r5TPsooner
8/4/2008, 10:02 PM
Obama loves socialism.

Obama hates capitalism.

I wonder how many of you would let the government take as much of your profits as they wanted to just because they thought that you were making too much money.

I'd say that we'd probably have another civil war if that happened.

soonersn20xx
8/4/2008, 10:02 PM
This Obama plan makes alot more sense and even McCain supports some of its ideas...............it's a shame that the two sides can't work on this together.

* The Illinois senator's campaign said he would close the so-called Enron loophole that exempts some energy speculators from U.S. regulations that apply to commodities traded over exchanges. It takes its name from the energy giant that benefited from the law and later collapsed because of massive accounting fraud.

* His plan would require U.S. energy futures to trade on regulated exchanges.

* Obama is calling for more data on index funds and other similar types of investments to boost transparency of institutional players in commodities markets.

* He backs legislation that would direct the Commodity Futures Trading Commission to investigate proposals such as increasing margin requirements in the market.

* He would aim to stop energy traders from evading U.S. regulations by conducting transactions through foreign subsidiaries of U.S. exchanges.

McCain, an Arizona senator, has also expressed concern about oil-market speculation and has called for investigating cases of abuses as well as overhauling regulations for the trading of futures contracts in energy stocks, bonds and other instruments.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN22450175

olevetonahill
8/4/2008, 10:03 PM
My vote cannot be bought for $1000 and bad policy. Obama needs to go sharpen his pencil, and see if he can't come up with a better offer.

Mine can . But I want the Money Up front In Cash :D

SCOUT
8/4/2008, 10:07 PM
This Obama plan makes alot more sense and even McCain supports some of its ideas...............it's a shame that the two sides can't work on this together.

* The Illinois senator's campaign said he would close the so-called Enron loophole that exempts some energy speculators from U.S. regulations that apply to commodities traded over exchanges. It takes its name from the energy giant that benefited from the law and later collapsed because of massive accounting fraud.

* His plan would require U.S. energy futures to trade on regulated exchanges.

* Obama is calling for more data on index funds and other similar types of investments to boost transparency of institutional players in commodities markets.

* He backs legislation that would direct the Commodity Futures Trading Commission to investigate proposals such as increasing margin requirements in the market.

* He would aim to stop energy traders from evading U.S. regulations by conducting transactions through foreign subsidiaries of U.S. exchanges.

McCain, an Arizona senator, has also expressed concern about oil-market speculation and has called for investigating cases of abuses as well as overhauling regulations for the trading of futures contracts in energy stocks, bonds and other instruments.

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN22450175

Which of those bullet points generates the billions that would be redistributed to the masses?

soonersn20xx
8/4/2008, 10:08 PM
Which of those bullet points generates the billions that would be redistributed to the masses?
It would bring stability to the market and lower the price of crude. :D

r5TPsooner
8/4/2008, 10:09 PM
It would bring stability to the market and lower the price of crude. :D

Wouldn't creating and using our own resources do that as well?

SCOUT
8/4/2008, 10:10 PM
It would bring stability to the market and lower the price of crude. :D

So we aren't talking about the promised rebate check from the record oil profits anymore?

soonersn20xx
8/4/2008, 10:12 PM
Without proper regulation and billion dollar investment houses using oil stocks as poker chips...............it doesn't matter where the commodity is derived from.

r5TPsooner
8/4/2008, 10:12 PM
So we aren't talking about the promised rebate check from the record oil profits anymore?

No, that went into his friends Pelosi and Ted Kennedy's pockets.

soonersn20xx
8/4/2008, 10:13 PM
So we aren't talking about the promised rebate check from the record oil profits anymore?
I don't believe in the Robin Hood theory of redistribution of wealth, I do believe in capitalism........but not psuedo capitalism when fear and gouging are allowed to run amok.

tommieharris91
8/4/2008, 10:13 PM
It would bring stability to the market and lower the price of crude. :D

Actually it would get the speculators out of the food markets and lower food costs too.

r5TPsooner
8/4/2008, 10:15 PM
Actually it would get the speculators out of the food markets and lower food costs too.


Goody. My babies need teh milk.

olevetonahill
8/5/2008, 02:32 AM
When I control the worlds Supply Of Natty you Dirty Libs will be Crying

Scott D
8/5/2008, 07:27 AM
When I control the worlds Supply Of Natty you Dirty Libs will be Crying

when you control the world's supply of natty, I'll be sad only because you've forced other people to try good beer, which means less of it for me. :D

SoonerInKCMO
8/5/2008, 07:48 AM
When I control the worlds Supply Of Natty you Dirty Libs will be Crying

Us libs have the good sense to drink good beer. ;)

olevetonahill
8/5/2008, 08:44 AM
Yall just continue to hurt my feelers
See If I vote for brack now :mad:

goodonya
8/5/2008, 09:22 AM
That the entire amount of oil recovery potential that is under discussion via "offshore" & "Alaska" could be totally offset by Americans simply airing up their tires and getting regular tune-ups. (I kid you not)

I'm off to my mechanic right now!

soonervegas
8/5/2008, 09:27 AM
I don't believe in the Robin Hood theory of redistribution of wealth, I do believe in capitalism........but not psuedo capitalism when fear and gouging are allowed to run amok.

3 pointer......swish!

tbl
8/5/2008, 09:50 AM
I think the windfall tax concept should apply to Hollywood. The Dark Knight has a profit margin of over 100% after only two weeks. If that isn't a windfall, I don't know what is.

That is exactly the same situation, but you don't hear the liberals talking about that scenario...

soonerbrat
8/5/2008, 10:07 AM
That the entire amount of oil recovery potential that is under discussion via "offshore" & "Alaska" could be totally offset by Americans simply airing up their tires and getting regular tune-ups. (I kid you not)

I'm off to my mechanic right now!

good then i'm doing my part.

soonerhubs
8/5/2008, 10:08 AM
Mine can . But I want the Money Up front In GOLD:D

Fixed it. :D

SoonerJack
8/5/2008, 10:20 AM
I think the windfall tax concept should apply to Hollywood. The Dark Knight has a profit margin of over 100% after only two weeks. If that isn't a windfall, I don't know what is.

Now, Scout. Windfall profit taxes are only to be leveled at companies that make money on commodities. Hollywood is a friend of the liberals and should be exempt from that kind of thing. ;)

Jimminy Crimson
8/5/2008, 03:36 PM
Nobody ever said that Obama was smart...

sooner_born_1960
8/5/2008, 04:00 PM
Wait. Air goes in the tires? I've been blowing it on my tires. No wonder I haven't seen any increase in mileage.

soonersn20xx
8/5/2008, 04:08 PM
Yea, air goes in tires..........and Iraq borders Pakistan according to McCain. :rolleyes:

If you want to get down to who has said the most stupid things, McCain clearly leads in this category.

GrapevineSooner
8/5/2008, 04:18 PM
57 states?

And BTW, are there any shades of gray in your political spectrum?

CORNholio
8/5/2008, 04:19 PM
Since when is it wrong for a company to make a profit? If I were in business for myself I would aim for the windfall profit.

Echoes
8/5/2008, 04:24 PM
Windfall profits tax = bad idea. It was when they did it before, it will be again. Unless major changes are made to it (Ones that I am completely unaware of) this will not work.

We have tried this before, next idea please :)

GrapevineSooner
8/5/2008, 04:27 PM
Since when is it wrong for a company to make a profit? If I were in business for myself I would aim for the windfall profit.

When it's name is Exxon/Mobil, Shell, Conoco...

CORNholio
8/5/2008, 04:30 PM
My vote cannot be bought for $1000 and bad policy. Obama needs to go sharpen his pencil, and see if he can't come up with a better offer.

2/3 of the country could be bought with a cookie. They don't care and don't pay attention unless it directly effects them.

soonersn20xx
8/5/2008, 04:33 PM
And BTW, are there any shades of gray in your political spectrum?
Actually, I am a moderate...............and I am still a minority here. South Oval is the Fox news of forums, just trying to keep it real homey.

Tulsa_Fireman
8/5/2008, 04:38 PM
Horsepucky.

Just because I say I'm a ninja that can punch your face so hard it'll make your rectum explode, AND I have some black pajamas, doesn't make it so.

You're a mouthpiece. A mouthpiece of a party of thought.

soonersn20xx
8/5/2008, 04:40 PM
I see disturbing your Obama bash thread angers some, should I leave so you can resume your circle jerk?

Obama has responded to those who are mocking him about this remark:

When every expert says that this would reduce our fuel consumption by 3 to 4% and republican critics make fun of this, it's like they take pride in being ignorant.

Turd_Ferguson
8/5/2008, 04:53 PM
Horsepucky.

Just because I say I'm a ninja that can punch your face so hard it'll make your rectum explode, AND I have some black pajamas, doesn't make it so.I thought you really could:confused:

Turd_Ferguson
8/5/2008, 04:54 PM
it's almost they take pride in being ignorant.Gold:D

Tulsa_Fireman
8/5/2008, 05:34 PM
Ghey thread forever.