Perfect example of the times.....

[bonkuba]

One of my employees goes to see the doc because he is depressed (supposedly). He just gets back and tells me that the doc suggested that he quit work and get on SSI.

Other than filling this post full of expletives I just want to say what a sad state of affairs we are in right now. "Let's live off of the government....don't work....you dont need to.......you are depressed." Frickin' moron.

I wish we could just get rid of it all.....if ya don't work....no $$. No more pooping out babies for $$......well anyway...ya get my point:D

Rant over:mad: :mad: :mad:

[StoopTroup]

Some folks have to experience SSI for themselves in order to get out of their depression.

Sometimes...once they get on the SSI thing...they find out they aren't as depressed as they thought they were.

Some though...get on it and try to fill in the gaps selling drugs, stealing and or illegally doing contract work under the table.

Some folks don't see a future working where they are...

It's a sad state of affairs.

Chin up Bonk.

[OUDoc]

One of my employees goes to see the doc because he is depressed (supposedly). He just gets back and tells me that the doc suggested that he quit work and get on SSI.


That doesn't sound right.

[Frozen Sooner]

That doesn't sound right.

Yeah, you'd have to have a pretty bad case of depression to need to go on SSDI over it.

I mean, I was diagnosed as depressed several years ago and haven't even missed a single day of work due to it. SSRIs can work wonders.

[OUDoc]

Yeah, you'd have to have a pretty bad case of depression to need to go on SSDI over it.

I mean, I was diagnosed as depressed several years ago and haven't even missed a single day of work due to it. SSRIs can work wonders.

Exactly. You'd have to fail multiple treatments before I'd even think about suggesting SSI. Hell, I think they're still doing ECT for severe depression that's refractory to medication.

[Frozen Sooner]

Exactly. You'd have to fail multiple treatments before I'd even think about suggesting SSI. Hell, I think they're still doing ECT for severe depression that's refractory to medication.

I have no idea what that last sentence said, but I'm going to go ahead and agree with you. ;)

All I know is I love my little magic pills. Imagine how grumpy I'd be without them.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

One of my employees goes to see the doc because he is depressed (supposedly). He just gets back and tells me that the doc suggested that he quit work and get on SSI.

Other than filling this post full of expletives I just want to say what a sad state of affairs we are in right now. "Let's live off of the government....don't work....you dont need to.......you are depressed." Frickin' moron.

I wish we could just get rid of it all.....if ya don't work....no $$. No more pooping out babies for $$......well anyway...ya get my point:D

Rant over:mad: :mad: :mad:If he quits, he's not into you financially as much as if you fire him, no?

[StoopTroup]

That doesn't sound right.

I wasn't going to say anything...

I'm glad you did.

I figure there's more to they guys story as to why he can't work.

[DBrown]

As one who suffers from chronic depression,I hope you NEVER do.
It is a BEAST that must be fought and it's something that's not....
"ALL IN YOUR HEAD".
Actually,you should be glad that person willed himself to seek treatment.
Sure,the system isn't perfect and has many flaws and some do try to
fleece it and milk it for all its' worth.
But this person DID SEEK HELP.
Please don't rush to judgement and BE THANKFUL said person didn't
return and "GO POSTAL" and inflict harm on you or others!
And,if this person has worked and paid into this system,they deserve
within reason the benefits due them just as YOU would do if faced
with a similar crisis.

[SoonerInKCMO]

That doesn't sound right.

Thanks for bursting my bubble. Now I have to come up with a different plan for suckling at the teat of productive society. :mad:

[SoonerInKCMO]

Apropos of nothing, the middle digits of my spek count are '666'. :devil:

[StoopTroup]

Apropos of nothing, the middle digits of my spek count are '666'. :devil:

I just sent you this in your Spek Comments....


I hope this changes things for you...God Bless - ST

[sooner_born_1960]

Wow. Your spek is large enough to have middle digits?

[SoonerInKCMO]

Heh. Whew, I no longer have the Spek of the Beast.

[OUDoc]

I have no idea what that last sentence said, but I'm going to go ahead and agree with you. ;)

All I know is I love my little magic pills. Imagine how grumpy I'd be without them.

I STUMPED MIKE RICH!!! :)

(I don't know if they still do this, but I believe they do) For people who don't benefit from medicines, they can try electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy). I've seen it done once at University Hospital. Pretty cool (for me, probably not for the patient).

Here's another link, for those who hate Wiki:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129/FLUSHCACHE=0&UPDATEAPP=false

[olevetonahill]

As one who suffers from chronic depression,I hope you NEVER do.
It is a BEAST that must be fought and it's something that's not....
"ALL IN YOUR HEAD".
Actually,you should be glad that person willed himself to seek treatment.
Sure,the system isn't perfect and has many flaws and some do try to
fleece it and milk it for all its' worth.
But this person DID SEEK HELP.
Please don't rush to judgement and BE THANKFUL said person didn't
return and "GO POSTAL" and inflict harm on you or others!
And,if this person has worked and paid into this system,they deserve
within reason the benefits due them just as YOU would do if faced
with a similar crisis.

Uh nOOb
Ya dont PAY into SSI Its a freeby from the Taxpayers
People who Havnt worked and or Peeple that wont or cant work are the ones SSI is intended for

[Okla-homey]

One of my employees goes to see the doc because he is depressed (supposedly). He just gets back and tells me that the doc suggested that he quit work and get on SSI.

Other than filling this post full of expletives I just want to say what a sad state of affairs we are in right now. "Let's live off of the government....don't work....you dont need to.......you are depressed." Frickin' moron.

I wish we could just get rid of it all.....if ya don't work....no $$. No more pooping out babies for $$......well anyway...ya get my point:D

Rant over:mad: :mad: :mad:


Naw, he'll prolly claim the depression was work-related and file a workers comp claim on you.;)

Srsly though, just because he told you that's what the doc said don't make it so. It might have been like this: "Doc, I'm depressed. Can I get SSDI?" To which the Doc may have replied, "I dunno, I suppose you could file it and see." (See my sig. below)

[Boarder]

That doesn't sound right.
Don't be trying to backpedal now, bud.

[StoopTroup]

OV...

I get that Brown meant that the guy was a taxpayer and if he needed the benefits...he deserved to use them if he needs them.

I'm guessing his Employer doesn't provide health benefits.

[StoopTroup]

Naw, he'll prolly claim the depression was work-related and file a workers comp claim on you.;)

Heh.

Or that.

[soonerbrat]

Exactly. You'd have to fail multiple treatments before I'd even think about suggesting SSI. Hell, I think they're still doing ECT for severe depression that's refractory to medication.

I want some of that.

[soonerbrat]

SSI is REALLY hard to get. he'll get denied about 5 times before he gets a hearing before the Adminstrative Law Judge and then get $600/month or something ridiculously to low to live on. it's not all it's cracked up to be.

[olevetonahill]

OV...

I get that Brown meant that the guy was a taxpayer and if he needed the benefits...he deserved to use them if he needs them.

I'm guessing his Employer doesn't provide health benefits.

I understand that
But SSI is suplemental sercuity Income
Not Social security Disability

[StoopTroup]

Ahh.

[Animal Mother]

Yeah, you'd have to have a pretty bad case of depression to need to go on SSDI over it.

I mean, I was diagnosed as depressed several years ago and haven't even missed a single day of work due to it. SSRIs can work wonders.



I had to go on anti-depressants when I couldn’t keep my usual med lit at high altitudes…………. I mean, my usual med became hard to afford and find. Seriously, reuptake inhibitors are a good thing. I finally quit repeating the “not me” mantra in regards to depression when my EAP dude describe my problem to a “T”. Dysthymia.
I didn’t like that little epiphany trust me. Why? Because I know how I reacted to others when told they had been diagnosed as depressed. By since I’m a highly intelligent super-being, I’ve come to recognize behaviors before I carry them out and I’m able to help the world and make it a better place because I’m in it.
Did I mention one of the symptoms is delusions of grandeur?

Depression sucks but you can get help. Even someone as strong willed as Winston Churchill had his “Black Dog” episodes. No, he wasn’t the secret fifth member of Zeppelin. "Black Dog" was Churchill's name for his depression. The nickname implied familiarity and an attempt at mastering the depression. You know. The dog my bite you in the azz, but if you recognize it is chewing said azz, you can hit on the nose with a rolled up newspaper (treatment). I understand bonkuba’s frustration but getting disability can be about as easy as finding a particular needle in a haystack of needles.

[OU4LIFE]

That doesn't sound right.

You shut your mouth. He's depressed dammit.

moran. To the curb with him!

[BillyBall]

By since I’m a highly intelligent super-being, I’ve come to recognize behaviors before I carry them out and I’m able to help the world and make it a better place because I’m in it. [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Did I mention one of the symptoms is delusions of grandeur?

Thats good stuff...

[kbsooner21]

Uh nOOb
Ya dont PAY into SSI Its a freeby from the Taxpayers
People who Havnt worked and or Peeple that wont or cant work are the ones SSI is intended for

What does being a n00b have to do with anything? :D

n00bs have opinions too :D

[PhilTLL]

As one who suffers from chronic depression,I hope you NEVER do.

Same, and also hope you all avoid becoming ignorant, judgmental arseholes over the subject. (Er, well, clearly this hope may be lost for some of you)

[StoopTroup]

I'd like to get me some Government funding so I can open one of those "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" type places.

I know a Gal that would make a great Nurse Ratchet. :D

We could all get together from time to time and play cards. :D

[olevetonahill]

What does being a n00b have to do with anything? :D

n00bs have opinions too :D

If you have to ask your a nOOb :D

[kbsooner21]

If you have to ask your a nOOb :D

Hell I gotta start somewhere :D

[olevetonahill]

Same, and also hope you all avoid becoming ignorant, judgmental arseholes over the subject. (Er, well, clearly this hope may be lost for some of you)

I am Not a Ignorant ,Judgmental aszhole !
Im a smartasz:D

[olevetonahill]

Hell I gotta start somewhere :D

I cant spek anymore till tommorrow
Ill try to catch you then :P

[kbsooner21]

I am Not a Ignorant ,Judgmental aszhole !
Im a smartasz:D

You're a likeable kind of smartasz :D

[OUDoc]

I cant spek anymore till tommorrow
Ill try to catch you then :P

Getting older's a bitch, huh, olevet? :)

[olevetonahill]

Getting older's a bitch, huh, olevet? :)

Well if youd prescibe Viagra for My spekker, Maybe the admins would take the limit off :D

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

:kelvin:

[StoopTroup]

Hey Everybody! It's medication time! :D

syPZZxxFCe0

[olevetonahill]

:kelvin:

Are you saying I need to go back to My Crayons ?:O

[bonkuba]

If he quits, he's not into you financially as much as if you fire him, no?

He is still within the 90 days....can let him go without any notice.

I was just struck by what a moron this doc seems to be....or in my simple terms contributing to all the folks that I am having to pay for with my tax $$.

Believe me, I know folks get depressed. God knows I have been through my share of rough patches and folks handle things differently. It's just the ones that you can see right through and the docs still give the papers to them (just for the $$ I guess...I see no other reason).

I hate paying for folks that are just taking up my air.;)

[BlondeSoonerGirl]

Are you saying I need to go back to My Crayons ?:O

Heh.

And nope.

[bonkuba]

As one who suffers from chronic depression,I hope you NEVER do.
It is a BEAST that must be fought and it's something that's not....
"ALL IN YOUR HEAD".
Actually,you should be glad that person willed himself to seek treatment.
Sure,the system isn't perfect and has many flaws and some do try to
fleece it and milk it for all its' worth.
But this person DID SEEK HELP.
Please don't rush to judgement and BE THANKFUL said person didn't
return and "GO POSTAL" and inflict harm on you or others!
And,if this person has worked and paid into this system,they deserve
within reason the benefits due them just as YOU would do if faced
with a similar crisis.

I just spoke to him again in my office.....he told me that he was just wanting meds. It is too easy now days to just say "I am depressed".........ok....dont work.....no need. Oh yeah, here are some meds.

Since you say you are depressed I am not doubting you at all, dont get me wrong. I am just saying that more often that not these folks are full of more than the papers they want for my tax dollars. I have seen it many times and unfortunately will see it many more times.

By the way, he no longer works for me. I thought I would help him out with his doctors orders :D Seriously, I did not have to have a reason to let him go (within the 90 days) and he has done more than this to be let go...was on the bubble anyway.

Carry on......

[bonkuba]

SSI is REALLY hard to get. he'll get denied about 5 times before he gets a hearing before the Adminstrative Law Judge and then get $600/month or something ridiculously to low to live on. it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Heh.....you said crack....huh huh.:D :D

[StoopTroup]

Well....

If he was looking for xanax....maybe he shouldn't be even working.

I've seen some folks who chomp 4-5 xanax and wash it down with a beer and they think everything is fine now.

[bonkuba]

Well....

If he was looking for xanax....maybe he shouldn't be even working.

I've seen some folks who chomp 4-5 xanax and wash it down with a beer and they think everything is fine now.

Stoop....I helped him out with the maybe I shouldn't work part :D

[Animal Mother]

Well....

If he was looking for xanax....maybe he shouldn't be even working.

I've seen some folks who chomp 4-5 xanax and wash it down with a beer and they think everything is fine now.


I'd like to meet someone who washes 5 Xanax down with a brew and is able to think... PERIOD!!!
But then Elvis was eating 30 Quualudes per day when he sat on the thrown that last time.

[olevetonahill]

Heh.

And nope.

Wanta Get Married ? Ill share My crayons :hot:

[olevetonahill]

Well....

If he was looking for xanax....maybe he shouldn't be even working.

I've seen some folks who chomp 4-5 xanax and wash it down with a beer and they think everything is fine now.

ur not supposed to do that ?:eek:

[StoopTroup]

I'd like to meet someone who washes 5 Xanax down with a brew and is able to think... PERIOD!!!
But then Elvis was eating 30 Quualudes per day when he sat on the thrown that last time.

I didn't say they could talk....lol.

It was more like a slow drool.

Somehow they were able to walk though.

It was truly amazingly, disturbing and sad all at once.

[bonkuba]

I didn't say they could talk....lol.

It was more like a slow drool.

Somehow they were able to walk though.

It was truly amazingly, disturbing and sad all at once.


Wow :D

[Sooner Born Sooner Bred]

SSI is REALLY hard to get. he'll get denied about 5 times before he gets a hearing before the Adminstrative Law Judge and then get $600/month or something ridiculously to low to live on. it's not all it's cracked up to be.
My friend's mom has MS and she had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get SSI. She kept getting denied and her illness kept getting worse. She was a nurse, but there was no way she could work.

[StoopTroup]

You have to hold back some bribe money from your last few checks to get it pushed through. :D ;)

[olevetonahill]

My friend's mom has MS and she had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get SSI. She kept getting denied and her illness kept getting worse. She was a nurse, but there was no way she could work.

Then Its Social Security Disabilty NOT SSI
Just sayin
The 1st youve worked for and earned .the second is equal to welfare
Just sayin