Blu Ray

[r5TPsooner]

The ole 15 year anniversary is coming up on the 31st and the wife has been nagging me on what I want for a gift. After having so many health related issues over the past year, I thought that having a Blu Ray DVD player would be kinda cool to watch movies on in the bedroom.

I was pretty much ready to by a Panasonic to go with my Panasonic TV, however, the Sony Playstation 3 gets just as good reviews as most of the stand alone Blu Rays. I do not play video games, but my sister's have teenagers that come up from the north and south, so I figured this might be a good buy to give the kiddies something to do when the adults are doing there own thing. Kind of a best of both worlds scenario. Also, playing some TW 09 and some NCAA 09 is sorta inviting to me.

Any opinions on pricing, quality, speed on any of the Blu Ray players?

[stoops the eternal pimp]

just get the ps3 man....for the price compared to a stand alone its not much difference and you probably will turn into a gamer before long...after I bought my wife ratchet and clank she is all into playing da video games now

[85Sooner]

just get the ps3 man....for the price compared to a stand alone its not much difference and you probably will turn into a gamer before long...after I bought my wife ratchet and clank she is all into playing da video games now

ditto

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I was going to get the stand-alone blu-ray and the salesman convinced me to get the ps3 - it was the same price. I have a 14 year old son, so he was happy. Works great.

But if you put it in your bedroom, you may be sleeping on the couch when the kids are visiting.

[C&CDean]

PS3

[r5TPsooner]

The thing that looks really nice about the PS3 is that it seems really compact. I can easily move it from the bedroom to the living room.

BTW, this is probably a really stoopid question but I assume that the PS3 game come out in HD on the TV too?

Can you tell I'm not even close to being a gamer, heh?

[OUMallen]

PS3 has lots of amazing options. It's not a gmaing console that plays Blu Rays. It's an entertainment console that plays video games.

[OUMallen]

yeah, it's HD, but you have to have the HDMI cable or components cables running between them. The old school hook up won't give you HD.

[Widescreen]

Do you have an HDTV? What size? If it's not 40" or larger, you may not see much benefit of going blu-ray over regular DVD.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

just buy a new tv while your at it just to make sure you get all its capable of doing

[StoopTroup]

just buy a new tv while your at it just to make sure you get all its capable of doing

That's what I was thinking would be the best thing to do.

Especially with the new format changes coming.

[r5TPsooner]

I have a Panasonic 60" and a Panasonic 42" Plasma HDTV. I think that I have that part covered.

[badger]

PS3

A little Packer fan support, plzkthx?

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115788

:( those mean boyz r picking on little ol' badger :(

Oh, and as for this topic... if you wanna spend a lot of money on a television, a lot of money on a disc player and a lot more money on the discs, then go ahead and Blu Ray things up.

Or, for a lot cheaper, you can stick with your cheaper telly, cheaper DVD player and cheaper DVDs... or if you're extremely cheap, VHS tapes and VCRs.

It is not worth the switch right now, unless you need to compensate and show off to others how incredibly techy and wealthy you are.

Save yer cash. Its gonna be a tough ol' economy for awhile.

[shaun4411]

whatever toughness this economy is experiencing, it isnt affecting me. i go to work everyday and pay my bills. been like that for some years now. only difference is gas cost a few more dollars to fill up. no big deal.

so, ps3.

[shaun4411]

speaking of bluray...anybody here have any bluray movies for trade?

i have a few that id like to trade off. such as American Psycho (new never opened), Hostel II, 300

[Frozen Sooner]

A little Packer fan support, plzkthx?

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115788

:( those mean boyz r picking on little ol' badger :(

Oh, and as for this topic... if you wanna spend a lot of money on a television, a lot of money on a disc player and a lot more money on the discs, then go ahead and Blu Ray things up.

Or, for a lot cheaper, you can stick with your cheaper telly, cheaper DVD player and cheaper DVDs... or if you're extremely cheap, VHS tapes and VCRs.

It is not worth the switch right now, unless you need to compensate and show off to others how incredibly techy and wealthy you are.

Save yer cash. Its gonna be a tough ol' economy for awhile.

:rolleyes:

Why, thank you Badger. I'm sure that everyone in here is very happy you decided to drop in and insult them.

"Not worth it" is a completely subjective term, and your willingness to apply it as a blanket statement is uncalled-for here.

So, neener.

As for the original topic:

I've tried to convince myself that one of the newer Panasonics is worth exchanging my PS3 (or moving it to the bedroom) for the bitstreamed DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD, but I can't do it. The bitstreaming is the only thing the new Pannys do that the PS3 won't, and PS3s will play SACDs, which the Pannys won't-and DTHD and DTS-HD MA output as linear PCM is theoretically identical to the bitstream.

[Sooner_Havok]

Surprised no one brought this up yet...

Buy the PS3 because it can be updated. They are still adding feature playback stuff to Blu-Rays so if you get a stand alone player, you are pretty much stuck with the software that comes installed on it. If you get the PS3 however, you can get the update when they add the next "cool" feature to blu-ray discs.

Plus, you can rent HD movies online with your PS3.

[Frozen Sooner]

Surprised no one brought this up yet...

Buy the PS3 because it can be updated. They are still adding feature playback stuff to Blu-Rays so if you get a stand alone player, you are pretty much stuck with the software that comes installed on it. If you get the PS3 however, you can get the updated when they add the next "cool" feature to blu-ray discs.

Plus, you can rent HD movies online with your PS3.

Nah, most BD players have firmware that's upgradeable over ethernet.

Sony's just really good about updating the PS3. Actually, as I hear tell, they built it to be as full-functioned as they could, then deliberately crippled it via firmware until the standalones caught up. Notice they didn't enable Dolby TrueHD decoding until a standalone did it, they didn't enable DTS-HD MA decoding until a standalone did it, etc.

[r5TPsooner]

Surprised no one brought this up yet...

Buy the PS3 because it can be updated. They are still adding feature playback stuff to Blu-Rays so if you get a stand alone player, you are pretty much stuck with the software that comes installed on it. If you get the PS3 however, you can get the update when they add the next "cool" feature to blu-ray discs.

Plus, you can rent HD movies online with your PS3.

Yeah, I read that somewhere. The updates are like your Windows Updates, they just happen automatically.

That is a nice feature as you're always using the most up to date technology so to speak.

[Sooner_Havok]

Nah, most BD players have firmware that's upgradeable over ethernet.

Sony's just really good about updating the PS3. Actually, as I hear tell, they built it to be as full-functioned as they could, then deliberately crippled it via firmware until the standalones caught up. Notice they didn't enable Dolby TrueHD decoding until a standalone did it, they didn't enable DTS-HD MA decoding until a standalone did it, etc.

Well, if you have a wireless home network, updating your ps3 should still be much easier. Plus having a media hub hooked up to your home entertainment system is cool. Through in the web browser, and I think it is still the best BD player on the market.

They may have crippled it, but like I said, you know it will be able to do everything in the future.

[Frozen Sooner]

Yeah, I read that somewhere. The updates are like your Windows Updates, they just happen automatically.

That is a nice feature as you're always using the most up to date technology so to speak.

They're better than Windows updates because they aren't automatic. :D

That way, if there's a fw that might brick your system, you can hold off on the dl for a couple of days. The first couple of days of fw 2.41 was borked and it bricked a couple of boxes.

[r5TPsooner]

I think it does suck that they make you purchase the 80gb system to do the backward/reverse thing where you can play old Playstation 2 games. I read that somewhere too, even though it seems completely foreign to me being a non gamer and all.

[Frozen Sooner]

Well, if you have a wireless home network, updating your ps3 should still be much easier. Plus having a media hub hooked up to your home entertainment system is cool. Through in the web browser, and I think it is still the best BD player on the market.

They may have crippled it, but like I said, you know it will be able to do everything in the future.


Oh, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you.

I don't think about the wireless aspect on the updates-my router is in my home theater. :D

It is nice to use as a porn, er, media hub.

[Sooner_Havok]

I think it does suck that they make you purchase the 80gb system to do the backward/reverse thing where you can play old Playstation 2 games. I read that somewhere too, even though it seems completely foreign to me being a non gamer and all.

I thought they had abandoned that all together. It doesn't really suck, most playstation gamers already have a PS2 anyways.

[Sooner_Havok]

Oh, I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you.

I don't think about the wireless aspect on the updates-my router is in my home theater. :D

It is nice to use as a porn, er, media hub.

If only there was a "boss" button for the PS3 :D

[r5TPsooner]

I thought they had abandoned that all together. It doesn't really suck, most playstation gamers already have a PS2 anyways.

Unless you're like me and really just want the Blue Ray and something for the younger in laws when they come in from out of town to keep em occupied.

Good to hear on that they discontinued that tho.

[Frozen Sooner]

I think that the 80GB model still software supports PS2 games.

My 60GB still has the Emotion engine chip in it, so it plays all PS2 games (except Guitar Hero 2 due to interface issues) perfectly.

[r5TPsooner]

I think that the 80GB model still software supports PS2 games.

My 60GB still has the Emotion engine chip in it, so it plays all PS2 games (except Guitar Hero 2 due to interface issues) perfectly.


OK, I hate to admit it but I could see having a few friends over for drinks and playing Guitar Hero. Seeing middle aged married couple rocking out on Guitar hero on a PS3 would be crap fabulous in my books.

[C&CDean]

Just an fyi for those that give a ****.

I pulled the trigger a month or so ago on a "system." I bought the Mitsubishi 52" LCD with the "whatever the hell it's called engine that kicks some ***". The reason I picked it over the Samsung and Sony was the screen. My living room has 5 big windows, and we don't do curtains in the country. All the other screens had major glare issues.

I bought a PS3 (40GB model) but I just do movies on it. Bought some HDMI cables for everything too.

I bought one of those power source dealios to plug everything into (which worked great during a huge lightning hit we took a couple weeks ago). All I had to do was reset it and everything was groovy.

I bought the Bose Lifestyle48? sound system. Yeah, I know, overpriced, but I dig the Bose sound and look. Sue me. My Bose noise cancelling headphones are still one of my smartest investments at $300.

All told about $6,500 give or take.

Ordered HD with the HDDVR from Dish, and now when I watch the 20 minutes or so of TV that I watch daily it's damn clear and sounds damn good. It'll get a lot more use during football season.

I's happy.

[C&CDean]

Did I say 52"? I meant 54. I think.

Speaking of which, I have a very nice Samsung 54" DLP (1080i) for sale if anybody is interested. Works perfectly, just not in a room with lots of glare.

[Frozen Sooner]

Just an fyi for those that give a ****.

I pulled the trigger a month or so ago on a "system." I bought the Mitsubishi 52" LCD with the "whatever the hell it's called engine that kicks some ***". The reason I picked it over the Samsung and Sony was the screen. My living room has 5 big windows, and we don't do curtains in the country. All the other screens had major glare issues.

I bought a PS3 (40GB model) but I just do movies on it. Bought some HDMI cables for everything too.

I bought one of those power source dealios to plug everything into (which worked great during a huge lightning hit we took a couple weeks ago). All I had to do was reset it and everything was groovy.

I bought the Bose Lifestyle48? sound system. Yeah, I know, overpriced, but I dig the Bose sound and look. Sue me. My Bose noise cancelling headphones are still one of my smartest investments at $300.

All told about $6,500 give or take.

Ordered HD with the HDDVR from Dish, and now when I watch the 20 minutes or so of TV that I watch daily it's damn clear and sounds damn good. It'll get a lot more use during football season.

I's happy.

Nicely done. You know my feelings on Bose, but if it makes you happy, that's what counts.

[Widescreen]

By the way, I don't know if it can be said that "most" blu-ray players have ethernet ports since it's not even a requirement for profile 1.0 or 1.1. When I was shopping for one in May, a lot of them didn't. At some point they all will have them in order to be BD-Live compliant. The one I got does have an ethernet port (they've labeled it 'BD-Live ready' - we'll see) and can be updated via the Internet which is nice. I also just got a nice Onkyo receiver that decodes DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD. The new HD audio formats are highly recommended. I didn't think I would care about the audio as much but it is a noticeable improvement over regular DD or DTS.

[Frozen Sooner]

What BD players that are currently sold don't have ethernet ports?

[StoopTroup]

I've read every post in this thread and my head is about to explode.

I'm gonna go listen to a battery powered AM radio for 30 minutes.

[Sooner_Havok]

I've read every post in this thread and my head is about to explode.

I'm gonna go listen to a battery powered AM radio for 30 minutes.

What, you to good for a crystal radio? Poser :D

[Widescreen]

What BD players that are currently sold don't have ethernet ports?
A bunch of them.

Sony BDP-S300
Sony BDP-S500
Pioneer BDP-05HD
Panasonic DMP-BD30
Philips BDP9000
Philips BDP7200
LG BH-100
Denon DVD3800BD
Marantz BD8002
Funai NB500 (also packaged as Magnavox, Sylvania and Insignia)

Quite a few of those are profile 1.1.

[Frozen Sooner]

Fair enough. I was under a mistaken impression that BD players normally came with ethernet ports and only the 1st gen models commonly didn't.

Yet another way that HD DVD was superior. ;)

[Widescreen]

yeah, until BD-Live is widespread, the ethernet port really isn't needed - firmware can typically be updated by burning a CD. And even when BD-Live is everywhere it's arguable about whether I'll use ethernet for anything other than firmware updates. The online stuff for Bd-Live doesn't really interest me much.

[badger]

:rolleyes:

Why, thank you Badger. I'm sure that everyone in here is very happy you decided to drop in and insult them.


I apologize. I didn't mean to be insulting or derrogatory or belittling or b!tchy. Please forgive me :(

Apolgizin' spek for everyone that's posted in this thread! :O

[olevetonahill]

I apologize. I didn't mean to be insulting or derrogatory or belittling or b!tchy. Please forgive me :(

Apolgizin' spek for everyone that's posted in this thread! :O

What you Do Now ?
Oh and Dean How Much ?

[badger]

What you Do Now ?
Oh and Dean How Much ?

You only posted to get the apology spek, didn't you? What, don't have enough spek already, you spek hog? ***

*** This is about what I said earlier concerning the Hi-Def crowd which led me to extreme remorse upon second reading, after which I gave everyone that posted on this thread spek w/an apology. Since I just did another insulting example to you, I have also apology spekked you.

[olevetonahill]

You only posted to get the apology spek, didn't you? What, don't have enough spek already, you spek hog? ***

*** This is about what I said earlier concerning the Hi-Def crowd which led me to extreme remorse upon second reading, after which I gave everyone that posted on this thread spek w/an apology. Since I just did another insulting example to you, I have also apology spekked you.

Thats Spek HO to you :D
Now do I have to read this whole thing or are you Gonna give me the Cliffs Notes Version ?:D :P

[Frozen Sooner]

I apologize. I didn't mean to be insulting or derrogatory or belittling or b!tchy. Please forgive me :(

Apolgizin' spek for everyone that's posted in this thread! :O

Accepted and forgotten.

[bonkuba]

just get the ps3 man....for the price compared to a stand alone its not much difference and you probably will turn into a gamer before long...after I bought my wife ratchet and clank she is all into playing da video games now

We just did this....best move I have made in a while. It has the same (and more) capabilities of the ones that cost at least $1k.

[r5TPsooner]

Accepted and forgotten.


ditto

[C&CDean]

I apologize. I didn't mean to be insulting or derrogatory or belittling or b!tchy. Please forgive me :(

Apolgizin' spek for everyone that's posted in this thread! :O

I ain't letting you off as easy as the rest of em'. I want a certified game-worn Brett Favre jersey and a new cheese head (mine is old and is crumbling like an old crumbling thing) as tokens of your true remorse.

[r5TPsooner]

I ain't letting you off as easy as the rest of em'. I want a certified game-worn Brett Favre jersey and a new cheese head (mine is old and is crumbling like an old crumbling thing) as tokens of your true remorse.

There is a Cheese/Packers store in the MOA that you'd love. Some of the best cheese that I've ever tasted with free samples all day and all of the Packers stuff you'd ever want. Some of the best smoked cheddar and smoked gouda cheeses that I've ever ate.

Cool store.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I'll see what I can do about a Brett Favre game-worn Buccaneers jersey after next season:D

[skycat]

I'm in the market for a BDP right now and have done some research on this.

The PS3 really is a pretty good deal. There are really only a few reasons not to get one:

*No multi-channel analog audio outs. This is the biggie for me. I'm (my wife is) not quite ready to upgrade my AVR which doesn't have HDMI. Which means if I want to get all of the slick new uncompressed audio codecs I need a player that will decode them internally and send them to my AVR over analog.

*No IR remote port. Harmony remotes rule. Seriously, if you're reading this thread you probably want one, whether you know it or not. The PS3 doesn't play nice with Harmony remotes. There are workarounds, but, they're workarounds.

*Fan noise. The PS3 has a reputation for being loud at times. This may or may not bug you. I don't have first hand experience, so this may be overblown.

If these things don't apply to/bother you, than the PS3 is really hard to beat.

[badger]

I ain't letting you off as easy as the rest of em'. I want a certified game-worn Brett Favre jersey and a new cheese head (mine is old and is crumbling like an old crumbling thing) as tokens of your true remorse.

I don't have either, but if I had them, would you really want to take them from a defenseless little girl like me?

However, if you need any Sooner autographs, NP will verify that I am very good at asking for them.

[Widescreen]

I'm in the market for a BDP right now and have done some research on this.

The PS3 really is a pretty good deal. There are really only a few reasons not to get one:

*No multi-channel analog audio outs. This is the biggie for me. I'm (my wife is) not quite ready to upgrade my AVR which doesn't have HDMI. Which means if I want to get all of the slick new uncompressed audio codecs I need a player that will decode them internally and send them to my AVR over analog.

*No IR remote port. Harmony remotes rule. Seriously, if you're reading this thread you probably want one, whether you know it or not. The PS3 doesn't play nice with Harmony remotes. There are workarounds, but, they're workarounds.

*Fan noise. The PS3 has a reputation for being loud at times. This may or may not bug you. I don't have first hand experience, so this may be overblown.

If these things don't apply to/bother you, than the PS3 is really hard to beat.

Don't know about the fan noise because I don't have one but the other reasons contributed to why I didn't go that route. However, Sony just announced that they're dropping the 40GB model and replacing it with an 80GB model for the same price ($399) in September. Score!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/sony-cuts-80gb-ps3-price-to-400/

[r5TPsooner]

I'm in the market for a BDP right now and have done some research on this.

The PS3 really is a pretty good deal. There are really only a few reasons not to get one:

*No multi-channel analog audio outs. This is the biggie for me. I'm (my wife is) not quite ready to upgrade my AVR which doesn't have HDMI. Which means if I want to get all of the slick new uncompressed audio codecs I need a player that will decode them internally and send them to my AVR over analog.

*No IR remote port. Harmony remotes rule. Seriously, if you're reading this thread you probably want one, whether you know it or not. The PS3 doesn't play nice with Harmony remotes. There are workarounds, but, they're workarounds.

*Fan noise. The PS3 has a reputation for being loud at times. This may or may not bug you. I don't have first hand experience, so this may be overblown.

If these things don't apply to/bother you, than the PS3 is really hard to beat.

Having to purchase a separate remote control to control Blu Ray functions seems cheesy to me. Sony should throw one in and raise the price 410.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

i have no problems using the ps3 control for blu ray..its not that big o deal to me.....

[Widescreen]

It's a big deal if you have your entire theater programmed to a fancy IR universal remote except for the PS3. That's annoying. I have the same problem with our Wii. I'd like to be able to power the thing on and off with my universal remote but I can't.

[r5TPsooner]

It's a big deal if you have your entire theater programmed to a fancy IR universal remote except for the PS3. That's annoying. I have the same problem with our Wii. I'd like to be able to power the thing on and off with my universal remote but I can't.

Bingo, and the remotes aren't exactly in stock all of the time. They weren't on Amazon as of yesterday anyway.

[Frozen Sooner]

Not being able to use my Harmony 880 is annoying, but not onerous. When I'm watching a movie I only use the PS3 remote to start it. The only thing I mess with after getting it started and the right audio track playing is volume, which the 880 still controls.

[skycat]

Not being able to use my Harmony 880 is annoying, but not onerous. When I'm watching a movie I only use the PS3 remote to start it. The only thing I mess with after getting it started and the right audio track playing is volume, which the 880 still controls.

You don't have a wife/babysitter/mother-in-law/others trying to operate your home theater.

For some of us, this is an absolute deal breaker.

[Frozen Sooner]

You don't have a wife/babysitter/mother-in-law/others trying to operate your home theater.

For some of us, this is an absolute deal breaker.

Good point.