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mdklatt
7/17/2008, 08:04 AM
Anybody know where I can find a list of notable Navy and USMC veterans from Oklahoma?

Okla-homey
7/17/2008, 08:25 AM
Anybody know where I can find a list of notable Navy and USMC veterans from Oklahoma?

there is an Oklahoma Military Hall of Fame but my google search didn't turn up a web presence.

Lott's Bandana
7/17/2008, 08:28 AM
Besides the ones on SF? ;)

OK Dept of Vet Affairs
Scott Clymer, Public Information Manager, at (405) 521-3057
[email protected] ([email protected])

Bet Scott can help ya Md...

SoonerInKCMO
7/17/2008, 08:31 AM
Why do you hate the Army and Air Force?

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 08:34 AM
Why do you hate the Army and Air Force?

'Cause they don't have sail training requirements for their ROTC students.

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 08:39 AM
OK Dept of Vet Affairs
Scott Clymer, Public Information Manager, at (405) 521-3057
[email protected] ([email protected])



Hmmm. That might actually take effort.

Anybody know of any warships past or present with Oklahoma ties or than the USS Oklahoma or USS Oklahoma City?

Hey Tulsa, you got a 688 boat named after you? Didn't think so. Suck. It. ;)

Tulsa_Fireman
7/17/2008, 08:42 AM
Don't forget the U.S.S. Tulsa, an Asheville-class gunboat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tulsa_(PG-22)) commissioned from 1923 to 1946.

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 08:51 AM
Don't forget the U.S.S. Tulsa, an Asheville-class gunboat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tulsa_(PG-22)) commissioned from 1923 to 1946.

Los Angeles class SSN > Asheville class gunboat :texan:


There was a USS Muskogee, too. According to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_ships,_A) there was a USS Altus, but nothing on Google about it.

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 08:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Navy_ships%2C_L#Lam-LC

USS Lancewood (YN-67)

As part of the USO reserve squadron, the Lancewood was a floating movie studio for the production of pornography, an important morale booster for sailors serving extended periods without shore leave.

Lott's Bandana
7/17/2008, 08:57 AM
'Cause they don't have sail training requirements for their ROTC students.

I was the sailing instructor and OIC of NSY-29 at Florida State/Florida A&M in the mid-'90's.

After my two years of Sailtramids, cruising a Hans Christian 43 ketch around the Gulf o' Mexico, the DON eliminated the Sail Training Program because of budget costs...13 sailboats at campuses around the country cost the Nav a whopping $260,000. The loss of at-sea experience for the Middies was frankly criminal.

Sailing at NROTC units has been reduced to Lasers and the occasional regatta, depending on school location.

Sad.

Thing of beauty:

http://www.quickpicturehost.com/images/qph-1216302676.jpg

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 09:01 AM
The loss of at-sea experience for the Middies was frankly criminal.

The Navy noticed a serious decline in basic seamanship skills after mandatory sail training was cut, so they reinstated it several years ago.



Sailing at NROTC units has been reduced to Lasers and the occasional regatta, depending on school location.


At least they're still learning the ropes, so to speak. I dare any big boat sailor to tackle a Laser. ;) The OU unit has a keelboat on Thunderbird, but I'm not sure there's still anybody around who knows how to sail it. We're working on that.

Lott's Bandana
7/17/2008, 09:04 AM
Quick story:

USS Oklahoma City (SSN 723) was the victim of a "jam dive" during her post-shipyard availability in the early '90's. She exceeded a down angle greater than 30 degrees and nearly was lost. All the equipment certifications had to be re-done because of that severe angle and she spent a great deal of time back in the yards because of that incident. I assure you, a 30 degree down angle at flank speed is some serious booty hole puckerer...

Oh, and USS Oklahoma City (CLG-5) was the 6th Fleet flagship when she was retired in the mid-80's. She was the last active ship, other than the USS Constitution in Boston, to have wood decks. (the New Jersey also has wood decks and returned to the fleet after OKC, but was again mothballed.)

Tulsa_Fireman
7/17/2008, 09:06 AM
The fact that there IS a U.S.S. Tulsa for those of us IN Tulsa > Los Angeles class SSN > Asheville class gunboat > this gay thread on things that are long, hard, and full of seamen

Fixed.

Lott's Bandana
7/17/2008, 09:08 AM
The Navy noticed a serious decline in basic seamanship skills after mandatory sail training was cut, so they reinstated it several years ago.



At least they're still learning the ropes, so to speak. I dare any big boat sailor to tackle a Laser. ;) The OU unit has a keelboat on Thunderbird, but I'm not sure there's still anybody around who knows how to sail it. We're working on that.


Klatt, that is great news about the program...thanks for sharing. I retired in 1999 and it was still defunct then.

I would love to assist with any sailing program locally. I planned on Lasering on Hefner or T-bird this summer, but keep getting distracted. Sailed a Laser on Lake Tahoe 6 years ago...what a treat that was.

Okla-homey
7/17/2008, 09:14 AM
Don't forget the U.S.S. Tulsa, an Asheville-class gunboat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Tulsa_(PG-22)) commissioned from 1923 to 1946.

Ever seen The Sand Pebbles? Steve McQueen's character served aboard an Asheville-class gunboat on the Yangtze River in China during one those Chinese rebellions. USS San Pablo.

I dunno about USS OKC, but USS Tulsa did some very impressive stuff during her life.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6875/usstulsa28pg2229pv4.png

When civil strife broke out in Nicaragua in the late 1920s, details of Marines and shore parties of sailors from Tulsa landed to protect lives and preserve property. When not engaged in these duties, the patrol gunboat conducted routine training exercises in waters near the Panama Canal Zone and visited ports in Honduras.

En route for the west coast late in 1928, Tulsa transited the Panama Canal as she prepared for duty in the Far East. She departed San Francisco, California, on 24 January 1929, called at Honolulu and Guam, and proceeded to Manila.

Designated flagship of the South China Patrol on 1 April 1929, Tulsa operated out of Hong Kong, British Crown Colony; and Guangzhou, China, for cruises up the Pearl River and along the south China coast. At Guangzhou in May 1929, she witnessed the bombing of Chinese naval vessels by airplanes of the opposing faction in a Chinese civil war flaring at the time.

Relieved in June by USS Mindanao (PR-8) as flagship of the South China Patrol, she steamed up the coast to Shanghai, beginning a two-week deployment with the Yangtze Patrol in which she cruised as far upriver as Hankou. Assigned new duties as station ship at Tientsin in north China, Tulsa headed north in July 1929 to serve as a mobile source of information for the Commander in Chief, Asiatic Fleet (CINCAF).

She continued under the direct operational control of CINCAF into the 1930s, being later reassigned to the South China Patrol and observing conditions along the south China coast during the period following the outbreak of the undeclared Sino-Japanese war in July 1937.

As tensions increased in the Orient in 1940 and 1941, Admiral Thomas C. Hart, CINCAF, incrementally reduced the Asiatic Fleet's presence in Chinese waters. Withdrawn to the Philippines in May 1941, Tulsa joined the Inshore Patrol, guarding the sea approaches to Manila Bay.

Tulsa fought her little heart out during the Japanese invasion of the Phillippines. She was awarded two battle stars for her WWII service.

She was decommissioned in 1945 and sold for scrap in 1948.

Tulsa_Fireman
7/17/2008, 09:25 AM
Yessir, he did. And yessir, I have.

Steve McQueen is a pimp.

mdklatt
7/17/2008, 09:27 AM
Steve McQueen is a pimp.

I don't know if he could take on Chuck Norris, but he'd make Vin Diesel cry like a little girl.

Tulsa_Fireman
7/17/2008, 09:33 AM
Atta girl, Tulsa.

You know, every time I turn around, something else pops up that makes me so damn proud that Tulsa is my town now. A few more stories like that and I won't have an ounce of Midwest City scarlet and silver left in me.

Okla-homey
7/17/2008, 09:48 AM
Atta girl, Tulsa.

You know, every time I turn around, something else pops up that makes me so damn proud that Tulsa is my town now. A few more stories like that and I won't have an ounce of Midwest City scarlet and silver left in me.

wouldn't it be swell if there were still an Asheville-class ship in existence and we could restore her and re-christen her Tulsa, then bring her here and tie her up next to Riverside Drive? w00t.

Just think of the the story that could be told aboard about the rise of the US prominence in international affairs and the role Tulsa played in protecting our interests around the globe.

Of course, there would be those who would protest because she would be pilloried as an insturment of American imperialism. I say, F-em! It's our history dang-it. Also, the usual suspects in BA, North Tulsa and Sand Springs would vote against it because it cost to much and there's nothin' in it for them.

StoopTroup
7/17/2008, 11:29 AM
I seem to remember a teacher tell me that Tokyo and Tulsa were very close to the same Lat/Long.

I checked on Google Earth and Tulsa is closer to the same Lat/Long than OKC.

So...

Tulsa > OKC ;) :D

Okla-homey
7/17/2008, 12:13 PM
When civil strife broke out in Nicaragua in the late 1920s, details of Marines and shore parties of sailors from Tulsa landed to protect lives and preserve property.

Just think about it. USS Tulsa played a pivotal role in insuring the uninterrupted flow of bananas to the tables of America. We should insist Dole and Chiquita fund my project to build a reproduction USS Tulsa for berthing on Riverside Drive.