Oklahoman sportswriter says we're a bunch of electronic thugs

[Okla-homey]

well, not expressly, but he certainly thinks boards like this one are an anathema and should be detested and ignored by reasonable fans.

Methinks [he] dost protest too much. Perhaps he is motivated by his fear the digital domain is quickly making print media obsolete. Seasoned by a bit of "I get paid to write about college sports so my opinion is the only one that matters." Take a peek at his rant and let us know what you think.

http://www.newsok.tv/?titleID=1659857642

[King Crimson]

Perhaps he is motivated by his fear the digital domain is quickly making print media obsolete.


Bingo. i think there's a lot of that going on.

journalists need to re-assert the social "need" for their profession (i.e. whether in the specialized practice of journalism as a "profession" or expertise or even the 4th Estate idea--moving beyond strictly sports)...

while the net suffers from lack or no real means of verification...the whole ball game has changed. the days of centralized, "professional" media production is not what it was.

the new technology, for better *and* worse, makes everyone a potential producer of media content....not merely a consumer.

[Dio]

That's pretty funny, considering his own paper once quoted something I posted on this very board. Yes, a lot of what gets posted is innakerut, but there's at least as many things I hear about online that I wind up seeing in the Oklahoman...2 or 3 days later.

[King Crimson]

That's pretty funny, considering his own paper once quoted something I posted on this very board. Yes, a lot of what gets posted is innakerut, but there's at least as many things I hear about online that I wind up seeing in the Oklahoman...2 or 3 days later.

yeah, that's the other thing. Minus the net, i know most of the Denver area radio hosts ("sports journalists") and local college beat writers might actually have to *go back to working for it*. radio people especially, at least here.

i follow (but don't in any way, shape, or form pull for) CU sports since i've followed the Big 8 my whole life....and i don't even pay attention to the local media. it's mostly crap-azz platitudes or as you say rehashed stuff from a couple days ago off the boards.

[RacerX]

"crack detectives"

The guy that ran the whois command.

[tommieharris91]

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115460

and

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115511

[Viking Kitten]

He says people who are frequent message boards are no better than people who look at Internet porn sites.

Somebody wanna Venn diagram those two groups for me? I think it might look something like this:

http://creativeenergyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/blue-circle.jpg

[SouthFortySooner]

I actually get angry if I read something in the paper I didn't already know by being here.

[bri]

I can't decide if I want to make fun of that circle or masturbate to it. DAMN YOU, INTERNETS!!

[Ike]

Sounds like he and Buzz Bissenger need to get a room...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o8DAeic8Yus

[King Crimson]

I can't decide if I want to make fun of that circle or masturbate to it. DAMN YOU, INTERNETS!!

pie graphic doesn't really work, i paid for porn a couple times.

[StoopTroup]

Berry is an idiot. And I mean that in the most sincere way.

[Okla-homey]

I still take the paper, but its really kind of a waste of money since most of the stuff in there was on Drudge a day or two earlier.

[Frozen Sooner]

Said it before, I'll say it again:

Anyone who wears a blazer over a henley and calls other people geeks may want to attend to that plank in his eye.

[Okla-homey]

Said it before, I'll say it again:

Anyone who wears a blazer over a henley and calls other people geeks may want to attend to that plank in his eye.

I noticed that too. wassup with that?

All good sportswriters are high school ex-jocks with drinking problems and three ex-wives. They should wear sportscoats with golf shirts underneath. And stained khaki pants over shoes with run-down heels. And, ideally, they should wear a hat of somekind. They should drive klunker land-yachts that smoke. And they should smoke themselves. Winstons or Tiparillos.

Think Walter Matthau in the original Bad News Bears

[SoonerInKCMO]

Heh. VK said she's into Internet porn. Sweet.

[bri]

It'd be sweeter if she was in Internet porn.

Zang?

[Chuck Bao]

I have to admit that I was staring very hard at VK's dot, like it was one of them magic dots. I then re-read her post. I'm not sure if that proves her point, or not.

[12]

"The Internet is making my profession extinct." -Berry Trammel

[StoopTroup]

I still take the paper, but its really kind of a waste of money since most of the stuff in there was on Drudge a day or two earlier.

If your still taking the newspaper....

Your part of the problem...

PUT THE PAPER DOWN AND HEAD BACK TO THE SO!

DO IT! :D :pop:

[Flagstaffsooner]

Who does his hair? Hair of Harrah?

[StoopTroup]

Phil Spector

[sooneron]

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5654/highhorse2qo.jpg

[Rogue]

He's got a face made for radio. And a voice made for the newspaper.

Never cared much what he said before, don't care much about his newest opinion either.

[yermom]

If your still taking the newspaper....

Your part of the problem...

PUT THE PAPER DOWN AND HEAD BACK TO THE SO!

DO IT! :D :pop:

:D

[reevie]

Wasn't Trammel the one arguing with Traber and Eschbach by claiming 90% of the people out there sided with Jenny Carlson because everyone loves mainstream media and it's not fair to pick on them and make them the news story.

[badger]

Wasn't Trammel the one arguing with Traber and Eschbach by claiming 90% of the people out there sided with Jenny Carlson because everyone loves mainstream media and it's not fair to pick on them and make them the news story.

He did defend Jenni, like he was big brother rescuing little sister in one of his columns.

I won't complain about new media like message boards - it's a good way to mainstream information for those who want constant updates. However, I think we can all agree that some forums of media are more reliable than others.

Newspaper columnist or blogger? Columnist is more reliable.

Television newscast or sports radio talk program? Television.

Fansite message boards or established newspaper? Paper.

Random guy that goes by "Darth Husker" or common sense? Hmmm...

However, to say that one's opinion is more deserving of mainstream reading is kind of... what's the word? B!tchy? Self-centered? Condescending? In any event, that's probably why we're all upset at Berry - he seems to think that message board opinions are less deserving of online readership than his blog, than his column, than his video blog (all of which are online, just like message boards). Come on, Berry Tramel. You know you're watching the "peep show" too. Don't try to pin it all on us.

[stoopified]

Apparently Tramel thinks his sh!t don't stink.What a tool.Yhis is the same guy that said OU losing Bomar was like the Titanic hitting an iceberg,OU was going DOWN.He made the same crack when AD went down.The stupidest piece of trash was calling Holiway the worst passer in OU 'bone history.For the record Jamelle ranks 6th in passing efficency in OU history.

[Ike]

So, was he saying that someone on the Interweb was wrong?!?!? HOLY CARP! ALERT THE MEDIA!

[Viking Kitten]

Tramel, in his little rant, is squatting down and taking a big, hairy dump on one of the ideals any credible journalist should hold most dear: the notion of the marketplace of ideas. Good journalists welcome more voices, because the truth arises from competition. If "Meatrocket4TX" is spreading innerweb lies, it's Berry's job to uncover the truth. If professional journalists aren't doing their jobs, it's to us hold them accountable.

Welcome to the 21st Century life in the Fourth Estate, Berry. Ya putz.

[StoopTroup]

Message Boards and Tulsa > Berry Tramel and OKC :D

[RFH Shakes]

BULLFEATHERS!

:)

[SoonerInKCMO]

It'd be sweeter if she was in Internet porn.

Zang?

I dunno... does that mean we'd have to see Czar nekkid?? :eek:

[bri]

Who said anything about Czar? :D

[Mixer!]

No mention of M getting nekkid?



This place is slipping... ;)

[tommieharris91]

Who would you rather see nekkit? M or VK? I'd prefer both.

[OUDoc]

I'd like him to explain how sports radio is much different than internet message boards?

[yermom]

less commercials, more content ;)

[StoopTroup]

Who would you rather see nekkit? M or VK? I'd prefer both.

I'd prefer to hear their input in this matter. :pop:

[StoopTroup]

I'd like him to explain how sports radio is much different than internet message boards?

I'd like to even hear him defend that on a Sports Radio program....lol

[JohnnyMack]

OK, finally watched the clip.

He should sue his barber.

[StoopTroup]

OK, finally watched the clip.

He should sue his barber.

What took you so long to watch the clip?

[JohnnyMack]

I was busying watching teh porn.

[Animal Mother]

Anyone on a message board is an idiot.

Good thing Berry isn't into making generalizations.

Does that logic imply all journalists have bad, I MEAN REALLY BAD, hair dos?

[stoopified]

I was on the basketball board the other day and It brought to mind Tramel's biggest load of crap.When OU was searching for a new B-ball coach to replace KS,The Oklahoman spearheaded by Tramel created a 64 coach PLAYOFF and announced that the new coach was ........anyone but Jeff Capel ,who was not among their 64 candidates.YYeah,ole Berry is qualified to decide what should be written or typed. :D

[OU4LIFE]

I think he's just upset that more than half the people on message boards are better writers than he is.

[Scott D]

I think he's just upset that more than half the people on message boards are better writers than he is.

more than half?

[M]

Who would you rather see nekkit? M or VK? I'd prefer both.

Heh. It's good to know that I was somewhat relevant while I was gone. Especially in a Berry Trammel thread. :P

[Viking Kitten]

Hee hee. Just saying you were "down under" will always keep you relevant to this bunch of pervos, M.

[tommieharris91]

Hee hee. Just saying you were "down under" will always keep you relevant to this bunch of pervos, M.

Down under what? :confused:















Ohh yea, places like these have no more redeeming qualities than pr0n sites. Carry on...

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I would like to apologize to Sam and Landry for being an accomplice..we should all be ashamed...I feel even more guilt for sponsoring this site

[OU4LIFE]

more than half?

5/8?

[Scott D]

I was thinking 7/8 myself.

[OU4LIFE]

I'm really not willing to go more than, say...11/16

[OUDoc]

I'm really not willing to go more than, say...11/16

You do the best you can with what God gave you.

[soonerboomer93]

Heh. It's good to know that I was somewhat relevant while I was gone. Especially in a Berry Trammel thread. :P

you were gone???

:D

[TheUnnamedSooner]

9/10 more like it

[TheUnnamedSooner]

For every nine there's the one doleo or OV

[Jacie]

Heck, an insult from Trammel is like a blessing from the Pope.