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tbl
6/22/2008, 06:15 PM
Pretty good article. Of course this entire article has been thoroughly discussed on the SO and she may have used this site as source material, but she gets her point across without "**** off dip****".

http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/singles/datingtips/85967/dating-secret-exposed-why-nice-guys-finish-last;_ylc=X3oDMTRtc21iZW9sBF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEX3MDMjAy MzQzNDQ4OQRrA0RhdGluZyBTZWNyZXQgRXhwb3NlZCAtIFdoeS BOaWNlIEd1eXMgRmluaXNoIExhc3QEc2VjA2ZwX3RvZGF5BHNs awNkYXRpbmctc2VjcmV0IC1leHBvc2VkIC0gd2h5LW5pY2UgLW d1eXMtZmluaXNoLWxhc3QEenoDYQ--



Dating Secret Exposed: Why Nice Guys Finish Last
Are you a nice guy who has always wondered why the cocky guy -- the one who barely appears interested in the girl -- is usually the one who gets the girl?
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
What I'm suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
To illustrate what I mean: The answer to the question, "Why does the guy who doesn't appear to care as much about the girl get the girl?" is simple: The nice guy cares too much, too soon. He has made the woman too important and too valuable and it shows in everything he says and does. He is too available, too eager to please, too accommodating, and he gives too much -- all without getting anything in return. By doing so, he has made himself appear desperate, insecure, needy of this woman's attention, affection, and approval -- and he has stripped himself of any value in her eyes. After all, if he's already doing and giving everything, without her doing or giving anything - why would she value him? She won't. She is not going to value him any more than he values himself. What she is going to do is look for someone else, someone who she perceives as being more worthy, more confident, and more valuable.
It works like this: Once you need something, or you want it too badly, you forfeit your strength and lose all power of negotiation. You are in a position of weakness and you are perceived as weak. Someone (or something) else is in control of you, the situation, and it's outcome. Men in this situation appear to be anything but confident, strong, and exciting. More, they are perceived as being unworthy and as lacking value.
Translation: Things that are easily acquired, obtained, or maintained, without any effort or sacrifice, lack value... it's human nature.
The secret to why the cocky guy wins with women, over the nice guy, is that he is perceived as being a stronger, more confident guy with more value. How? He never invests everything -- his entire being, ego, and self-worth in what one woman's response or reaction to him is. He doesn't gush with compliments; he isn't always available; he doesn't give too much; and he knows he isn't going to die if a woman says "no" to him. More, his attitude is, yeah, I'd like to go out with you, but if I can't, that's OK -- I'm a busy guy, with exciting things going on, and lots of other options.

Widescreen
6/22/2008, 06:20 PM
Yeah, that's the reason.

SicEmBaylor
6/22/2008, 06:27 PM
Story of my life.

tbl
6/22/2008, 06:29 PM
You just gotta be careful to not bypass confidence and go straight to bitterness.

SicEmBaylor
6/22/2008, 06:31 PM
You just gotta be careful to not bypass confidence and go straight to bitterness.

I'm a very bitter individual. Always have been. I consider myself a nice guy but bitter nonetheless.

badger
6/22/2008, 06:32 PM
True answer:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3443/baylorchiclgs2.png
He can't get the girl because Baylor won't allow it.

SicEmBaylor
6/22/2008, 06:35 PM
True answer:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3443/baylorchiclgs2.png
He can't get the girl because Baylor won't allow it.

Not according to her!

She was a poli-sci major.....

SoonerStormchaser
6/22/2008, 09:10 PM
And you didn't even ATTEMPT to hit on her? Jeez...I'd hit her morning, noon and night!

SicEmBaylor
6/22/2008, 09:13 PM
And you didn't even ATTEMPT to hit on her? Jeez...I'd hit her morning, noon and night!

I believe she graduated just before my freshman year and I never knew her. I remember that issue coming out my freshman year and reading in The Lariat that she had already graduated so Baylor couldn't suspend her or anything.

olevetonahill
6/22/2008, 09:44 PM
And you didn't even ATTEMPT to hit on her? Jeez...I'd hit her morning, noon and night!

Shes WAY to young for your Tastes;)

tommieharris91
6/22/2008, 10:43 PM
Shes WAY to young for your Tastes;)

I believe they call that a trade-in. I didn't know SSC was through with the old model yet, though. ;)

olevetonahill
6/23/2008, 05:23 AM
I believe they call that a trade-in. I didn't know SSC was through with the old model yet, though. ;)

If he trades HER in its gonna be for a 48 Packard !:D

SoonerStormchaser
6/23/2008, 07:01 AM
Hells no...she's worth waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that!

olevetonahill
6/23/2008, 07:03 AM
Hells no...she's worth waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than that!

More than a 48 Packard ? I doubt that !;) :D

SoonerStormchaser
6/23/2008, 07:05 AM
Hell yah...just on the life insurance (;))

olevetonahill
6/23/2008, 07:09 AM
Hell yah...just on the life insurance (;))

Have you checked the Value of a 48 Packard ?
Might be close !;)