To the bob Barr Supporters

[Blue]

Why not this guy? He seems like he has better ideas than both the others combined.

[r5TPsooner]

I agree but he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

This is why our country needs a legitimate 3rd party.

[mdklatt]

Libertarianism loses it's appeal when the rubber hits the road. In an ideal world we should all be left to our own devices, but let's face it--people are stupid. It is the government's job to protect me from others, and that includes the stupidity of others. "The market" was the cause of the mortgage mess, not the solution. Ordinarily I wouldn't care about greedy morons handing out money to people who can't pay them back, but every single one of us is going to be paying for those mistakes for a long time. How is that fair? There is a place for regulation. I'm for smart government, not just some blind ideal of less government. I also think the Fair Tax isn't all that fair, and the numbers just don't add up.

Regardless, I might vote for Barr if he's on the ballot. Why the hell not, it won't matter.

[Blue]

Right now, my vote goes to him. Except I vote in Alabammer which will be red well into the 22nd century.

I do however think that people should start voting Lib whether they think it's a wasted vote or not.

Our two main parties now seem to be one in policy except for a few minor details.

[Blue]

In an ideal world we should all be left to our own devices, but let's face it--people are stupid. It is the government's job to protect me from others, and that includes the stupidity of others.

Cue Jerk and his 12 gauge. :D

[bluedogok]

I agree but he has a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

This is why our country needs a legitimate 3rd party.
As long as people think like that we will never get the opportunity to have a real alternative. Too many people worry about voting for the "winner" instead of voting for the best candidate.

I think the Congress/Senate is the much bigger issue since they are the ones that have much more impact on the population than the president.

[tbl]

Since I've been of age to vote, I've always voted Libertarian. I can't help it. I line up more with the LP than any other party and when I get in the booth, regardless of the snowball chance I know I face, I still vote my conscience.

[OK2LA]

I'm a Bob Barry Jr. supporter

[SanJoaquinSooner]

I totally agree with Bob Barr on the issue of states over-stepping on aliens illegally present.


by Bob Barr August 1, 2007

The New Testament Book of Matthew recounts the story in which Jesus is asked whether it is proper to pay taxes to Caesar. Jesus admonishes those questioning him to "render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

There is no language in our Constitution or in the Federalist Papers that accompanied, explained and defended that magnificent document, to suggest the drafters had in mind this biblical passage as they labored. But they might as well have harkened back to Matthew 22:21 as they sought to balance and apportion power between the federal, state and local government, and the people .

Even as Jesus understood there were powers properly exercised by the earthly government authority, so too did James Madison, the "Father of the Constitution," recognize the need to establish a clear division of governing power between federal laws and other authorities.

Article VI of the Constitution, therefore, declares that the Constitution and laws of the United States shall be "the supreme Law of the Land." This "Supremacy Clause," has come to mean that a federal law — so long as it is based on a proper power of the national government — not only can and must be enforced by state and federal judges, but state or local laws in contravention of it are null and void.

The Supremacy Clause bit the mayor and City Council of Hazleton, Pa., just last week. This small Pennsylvania town, frustrated as are many local jurisdictions in our country with the failure of the national government to stem the tide of illegal immigration, had passed a series of ordinances designed to force local businesses and landlords to confirm whether individuals with whom they proposed to do business were in fact in the country lawfully. It prohibits them from hiring or renting to those they determined were "illegals." However, when those popular ordinances were challenged, federal Judge James Munley cited the Supremacy Clause in striking down the regulations.

Local governments in Georgia and other states would be well-served to review Munley's extensively researched, 206-page order. While likely to be appealed, the judge's decision is supported by other rulings in diverse parts of the country. It should serve as a cautionary light to local politicians anointing themselves federal government surrogate enforcers.

Regardless of whether local elected officials believe they are under a calling — as Hazleton Mayor Louis Barletta has said — to "not sit back because the federal government has refused to do its job," the Constitution establishes clearly that they do not possess that power. Immigration policy is a power reserved to the federal government, and especially where you have a federal law (the largely discredited, but still valid 1986 "Immigration Reform and Control Act") that explicitly provides that it pre-empts state laws regarding employment of non-citizens. The Supremacy Clause rears its head whether one likes it or not.

Munley did not base his order on a single law or constitutional principle. Later sections of his opinion addressed the application of other provisions in the Constitution — procedural due process and equal protection of the laws, for example — as constituting additional reasons to invalidate the city's restrictive measures.

While the Hazleton ordinance is similar to one passed late last year by Cherokee County (but currently on hold), it is substantially different from the measure adopted last week by the Cobb County Commission. Cobb decided to paint with a broader brush — severely restricting the number of people who can live in a house. The limitations apply regardless of whether the occupants are here legally or illegally, although common sense tells us the measure is designed to address the problem perceived by many in the area that Latino immigrants are crowding more densely into homes than critics prefer.

Still, Cobb's leaders should review the Pennsylvania decision, which might have considerable appeal and relevance in the eyes of more than one federal judge in Atlanta to whom a challenge to the ordinance might be directed. Taking the time to study these and other provisions might reveal that the pressure needs to be brought to bear on our "leaders" in Washington not against local property and business owners.

[SicEmBaylor]

Why not this guy? He seems like he has better ideas than both the others combined.

Absolutely. I have been touting Bob Barr on here for awhile, I've donated to his campaign, and I intend to vote for him in November.

[Blue]

The problem is feeling people are wasting a vote. But what is a vote but voting your conscience? Obama-McCain=same ol same ol. Maybe by 2020 people will see a third party is electable. Start now and vote for Barr.

[SicEmBaylor]

The problem is feeling people are wasting a vote. But what is a vote but voting your conscience? Obama-McCain=same ol same ol. Maybe by 2020 people will see a third party is electable. Start now and vote for Barr.

yep.

[olevetonahill]

Absolutely. I have been touting Bob Barr on here for awhile, I've donated some of My Folks money to his campaign, and I intend to vote for him in November.

really ?

[Blue]

McCain is one stroke away from being senile. Obama is "Morpheus" reincarnated. No ideas. Barr seems to have some ideas and he's not restricted by the media to discuss them. this media makes me sick. focus on everything but the issues.

Sidebar- Obamas wife- I'd hit it like I was playing mailbox baseball.

[Hamhock]

Ron Pa.....nevermind.

[mdklatt]

Ron Pa.....nevermind.

Bob Barr is kinda like Ron Paul, but without the bat**** crazy.

[r5TPsooner]

McCain is one stroke away from being senile. Obama is "Morpheus" reincarnated. No ideas. Barr seems to have some ideas and he's not restricted by the media to discuss them. this media makes me sick. focus on everything but the issues.

Sidebar- Obamas wife- I'd hit it like I was playing mailbox baseball.


Obama's wife.... I'd hit it too... with a Louisville slugger as she is one UGLY looking bitch!

[Sooner_Havok]

I cannot legally vote for Bob Barr, sorry.

[Scott D]

Absolutely. I have been touting Bob Barr on here for awhile, I've donated to his campaign, and I intend to vote for him in November.

have faith in SicEm to back a non contender ;)