Nathan Scheelhaase

[soonerfan28]

Any chance we have offered this guy? and if so then is there any chance we pull him out of Missouri?

[snp]

Yes he's been offered and yes there's a good chance.

I'd really like to sign him instead of the other QB offers (Nunes and Mossakowski) since they're both prostyle QBs and we already have a studly prostyle QB on campus, Landry Jones. But Stoops doesn't pay me to think.

[SOONER STEAKER]

Great point SNP. We need a athletic QB who has the running style of a JC Watts and a passing arm like Troy Aikman. Does he exist?

[soonerfan28]

I was thinking the same thing. It seems like teams are starting to use 2 QB's who have different skills. Would be nice to add him in there with Landry.

[goingoneight]

Great point SNP. We need a athletic QB who has the running style of a JC Watts and a passing arm like Troy Aikman. Does he exist?

Yes, he just has a problem with saying no to BRSI car salesmen. :mad:


:D

[starrca23]

Let me pose a question (I truly don't know the answer). Has anyone ever one anything with a two quarterback system?

[soonerfan28]

Yes, LSU won the title, even with 2 losses with 2 QB's.

[Salt City Sooner]

Last 2 champs did it in fact. LSU (Flynn & Perrilloux), & Florida (Leak & Tebow). Before that, you'd probably have to go back to the '94 Huskers (Frazier & Berringer), although that was more due to injury.

[soonerfan28]

It would be nice to steal Scheelhaase and Wingo out of Missouri.

[snp]

It would be nice to steal Scheelhaase and Wingo out of Missouri.

And Tyler Evans.

[soonerfan28]

True. We only have is verbal right now and there is a lot of time between now and Feb. After losing Maclin a few years ago it would be nice.

[sooners123]

Scheelhaase we need to a degree, Wingo would be an unexpected positive addition. Hopefully Evans will help out on the recruiting front, which he most likely already is.

[stoopified]

Great point SNP. We need a athletic QB who has the running style of a JC Watts and a passing arm like Troy Aikman. Does he exist?Wouldn't do much good.Bob DOES NOT want OUr QBS to be dual-threat types.Running is only a last resort.I found this out from talking to Merv Johnson.OUr QB playing style since Bob has been here bears that out.PT was a great athlete but hardly ran,JW got scolded for having happy feet (back in '01,'02).Sam is a better runner than most realize but he too is not going to run very often.It just goes against Bob's philosphy of QB play.OU QBs are taught to continue to look for the pass completion not the run.

Having said that Stoops could change his mind but I doubt it.He has coached against VY,Brad SmithReggie McNeal, and others and has shown no inkling of allowing or encouraging his signalcallers to be runners.

[snp]

PT never ran because there was no depth behind him and they couldn't afford to get him hurt. Bomar was the most mobile QB we've had and he ran a decent amount. Of course some of those times he was running for his life because the OL was made out of a mesh bag. Nichol would've been used in a similar fashion had he stayed.

I agree that Stoops will never switch to a zone read offense as his primary play call. But all coaches want their QBs to be dual threats. If Stoops didn't care for a QB who could run, he wouldn't be going after Scheelhaase.

[snp]

He announces this Wednesday.

[Blitzkrieg]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/705169.html

I've heard this kid is electric on the field. Any KC sooners have any more insight on him?

[soonerfan28]

When asked if Oklahoma was his choice, Scheelhaase — who wants to play quarterback — said: “Oklahoma was the last school that was recruiting me as an athlete. When I went up this summer, it was for sure quarterback. It’s definitely a school I felt comfortable with since I was young, but you get a lot of those same feelings, especially with the local schools. We’ll see what happens.”Sounds good.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/705169.html

I've heard this kid is electric on the field. Any KC sooners have any more insight on him?


I've watched him play twice. Honestly I thought he was good but not great at QB but I think he is a big time athlete.

He definitely would be a good pick-up, no doubt.

We will find out soon enough but I think the consensus opinion is that he is picking OU.

[NormanPride]

It would be nice if we could steal that kid from Tech... I'm not sold on the "athlete QB". Especially in the system we've recruited for...

[soonerfan28]

I like this kid but we still need to remember that we have Landry Jones and he is the prototypical pocket passer so some one like Scheelhaase can come in and add an extra dynamic.

[birddog]

the comments from ku and mizzery fans are hilarious, two rivals who've never won a thing and have finally tasted a tiny amount of success.

[Cam]

the comments from ku and mizzery fans are hilarious, two rivals who've never won a thing and have finally tasted a tiny amount of success.

Here's a good one:



"KU fans lurking on FB recruiting, so funny. Glad this will be over come september, back to basketball beakers, you cant recruit top talent in football, you dont have the coaching or clout."

Umm, MU Fan, you'rer not exactly a football school either. Remember, that was one good season and one season does not make you a dynasty.

[soonerfan28]

Any idea what time he'll announce tomorrow?

[soonerfan28]

What time's Scheelhaase gonna announce? Nevermind I saw it will be 6 pm.

[goingoneight]

He's likely going to KU, announcing on a KC radio station per wwls. However, I thought Jarboe was UGA-bound and I thought DeMarco Murray was SUC-bound saving their announcement for TV. Stoops doesn't like the "ceremonies" very much.

[soonerfan28]

I have no inside info, but I'll be shocked if he goes to KU. If he does not choose OU then what do our 2010 prospects look like?

[sooneron]

We need a qb in this class. Otherwise, we have two scholly qbs heading into next fall. Last time I checked, Nimmo wasn't on scholarship.

[birddog]

what about johnny utah? he's quite a gunslinger.

[Joe Kane]

I got a year left...

[birddog]

how long have you been waiting to pull out that handle? :D

[Joe Kane]

shh, noobs about

[BillyBall]

6 pm CST

[INGRAM1]

Hopefully he will come on board. I will be watching. Boomer Sooner!!!!!

[schlanker]

I heard from a co worker of mine that claims to be hooked into the Illini network that he told their coaches to be by the phone at 6:15 tonight so he can call to verbal.

I hope he is wrong.

I know this has no validity whatsoever. Just telling you what I have heard.

[soonerfan28]

If it hasn't been posted he chose Illinois.

[Youngsooner]

yeah... looks like he committed to Illinois according to rivals... are we recruiting any other QB for our 09 class?

[Curly Bill]

are we recruiting any other QB for our 09 class?

I'm not sure we need to. We've been fortunate the past couple of years, so I say we don't take anyone unless they are a bona fide stud.

[snp]

yeah... looks like he committed to Illinois according to rivals... are we recruiting any other QB for our 09 class?

Morgan Newton
Jacob Karam
Drew Allen
Ryan Mossakowski

Probably going to send out a new batch of offers pretty soon. We definitely need to bring in at least 1 QB to run the scout team. Maybe a JUCO.

We'll be looking at only 2 scholarship QB on campus for 2009. No thanks.

[Curly Bill]

Morgan Newton
Jacob Karam
Drew Allen
Ryan Mossakowski

Probably going to send out a new batch of offers pretty soon. We definitely need to bring in at least 1 QB to run the scout team. Maybe a JUCO.

Spend a scholly on someone just to run the scout team? Find a walk-on to do that.

[snp]

Spend a scholly on someone just to run the scout team? Find a walk-on to do that.

Hays ran it like a stud, but he had a lot of experience and was pretty savvy. It's only 1 scholarship and it's not like this is a position you ever want to be short on.

E: Maybe bringing in someone to run the scout team solely is foolish. But there's no way I want to go into next season with only 2 QBs on campus with a scholarship.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

If it hasn't been posted he chose Illinois.At least he didn't go to a competitor. Why he chose to go North, and freeze his jewels off is hard to figure. You go, Ron Zook! Beat the Buckhumps!

[Curly Bill]

I agree we don't want to be short at the QB position, neither do I want to give out a QB scholly just to give one out...but who am I to say?

[soonerfan28]

Anybody got any idea where we go from here. Do we have a 2009 QB recruit. I know it's not like we don't have some great QB's on campus but as it's already been pointed out after next year we will only have 2 QB's on campus and yes they are both talented, but we need someone to push Landry because 2009 may be Bradford's last year.

[snp]

We're message board posters. It's our God-given right to second guess and tell Stoops what he should be doing :)

[Curly Bill]

We're message board posters. It's our God-given right to second guess and tell Stoops what he should be doing :)

true dat! :D

[Breadburner]

I don't recall seeing any QB's leaving early......

[birddog]

I KNEW IT!!!:rolleyes:

[JLEW1818]

Vince Young RS junior, Mike Vick RS Sophomore

[soonerfan28]

Halzle graduates this year and after the 2009 season Bradford could go pro. He'll be a junior and it's not unlikely that he'll leave after that if he has 2 good seasons.

[JLEW1818]

Halzle graduates this year and after the 2009 season Bradford could go pro. He'll be a junior and it's not unlikely that he'll leave after that if he has 2 good seasons.

Ya I'm saying he will play 2 more season minimum. Even if he does stay 3 more. Jones can RS this year and be a starter as a Junior. Long way away but just saying.

[soonerfan28]

Ya I'm saying he will play 2 more season minimum. Even if he does stay 3 more. Jones can RS this year and be a starter as a Junior. Long way away but just saying.

That comment was for breadburner. I was only saying that unless we sign two quality QB's in 2010 then we are gonna be short on QB's.

[illinisooner]

Hmm, good for me as an Illini fan...but was really hoping to see him commit to OU. He definitely fits in Zook's system better than he would here at OU, considering they are essentially a spread option team right now.

[Curly Bill]

He definitely fits in Zook's system better than he would here at OU, considering they are essentially a spread option team right now.

True, I understand he's a good QB but I didn't particularly see the fit with what OU tries to do. Same thing with Nichol.

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Illinois.

[bringit]

who?

[sooneron]

Having only 2 solid qbs sounds like a great idea. I guess some people missed the 2001 NU game. :rolleyes:

[sooneron]

Illinois is a better choice for the kid, anyway. I have a hard time thinking of Bob et al trying to change philosophy for an athletic qb. Bob is a big teneleven guy and he likes his qbs to be like big teneleven qbs. I say this knowing that Schellhasse went to Ill.

[Sooner24]

who?

http://newsok.com/four-star-qb-chooses-fighting-illini-over-ou-others/article/3271009/?tm=1216250750

[goingoneight]

I think he was refrerring to "who" is Illinois? :P

[soonerfan28]

Is Morgan Newton any relation to Cam Newton the Florida QB?

[soonerfan28]

I thought Mossakowski was a Kentucky lean, but it's not like the are a football powerhouse. I guess he's got a pretty strong arm. Rivals has him as the 2nd strongest arm behind Matt Barkley.

[MojoRisen]

I heard Auburn for Mossakowski but maybe we can get in on him. If I were being recruited though - I think I would be loyal to the team that was on me from the get go - unless I was a huge fan which maybe he is.

[schlanker]

I guess my co worker really does have hookups in the Illini system. He told me he plays golf w Zook but I didnt believe him. Who would have thunk it.

[soonerfan28]

I heard Auburn for Mossakowski but maybe we can get in on him. If I were being recruited though - I think I would be loyal to the team that was on me from the get go - unless I was a huge fan which maybe he is.

I would go to the program that has a chance to win it all and then secondly where I would have the best chance to start early. Until you sign on the dotted line then it's anybody's game but after that then loyalty should be priority.

[stoopified]

Nathan is a big fan of WATCHING championships on TV,obviously.

[r5TPsooner]

Good for him. Enjoy playing for 3rd and 4th place every year. Of course, they might have offered him the better "package."

[BermudaSooner]

It has to be tough getting a top prospect with Bradford having 2 more years after this of eligibility and Landry Jones in the wings.

[snp]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/briefingroom


ESPN 150 Watch Lister Ryan Mossakowski has narrowed his list down to Texas A&M, Auburn, Alabama and Kentucky

THE SKY IS FALLING

[snp]

Recruiting forum, etc etc

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

It has to be tough getting a top prospect with Bradford having 2 more years after this of eligibility and Landry Jones in the wings.

odds are landry jones will transfer in the spring.

[badger]

Ron Zook can recruit. That's it.

Zook is a good recruiter and will do what it takes to get athletes to like his school above other choices. That's it.

Zook has gotten quality talent to come to the likes of Florida and Illinois in his tenure there. That's it.

Zook's major accomplishments include recruiting. That's it.

[soonerfan28]

Alabama already has a a top QB coming in.

[soonerfan28]

Why would Jones transfer? After Sam leaves he has no competition and even when he does he'll have a leg up on future competition.

[snp]

Yup, a guy we offered, AJ McCarron. They also took a pretty highly touted guy last year, Star Jackson.

I think with Scheelhaase off the list, OU can make a stronger push for Moss and maybe change his mind.

[NormanPride]

odds are landry jones will transfer in the spring.

I know you're down on our previous QB coach's recruiting, but what makes you think Heupel can't keep them? Or is this a sarcastic joke aimed at the fact that Nichol did? ;)

[TheHumanAlphabet]

Well if he is so good, he can mess up Meechigan, Wisky and TOSU seasons... But like someone said, Illinois who?

[sooneron]

Ill has a better system for Nathan in place with Juice Williams taking snaps.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

I know you're down on our previous QB coach's recruiting, but what makes you think Heupel can't keep them? Or is this a sarcastic joke aimed at the fact that Nichol did? ;)

at what point do you just say that certain things are systemic? exempting our initial recruiting class (1999 mind you), in almost a decade we have had exactly 1 player who was willing to wait more than 1 year to get the starting job.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

at what point do you just say that certain things are systemic? exempting our initial recruiting class (1999 mind you), in almost a decade we have had exactly 1 player who was willing to wait more than 1 year to get the starting job.OK, why do you think that is? How big a factor is the small amount of playing time Stoops gives the backup QB's?

[soonerfan28]

And look at all the guys that have transferred. None of them did anything after they did. Maybe Jones will be intelligent enough to sit back and wait his turn. If he transferred he would lose a year and then there is no guarantee that he would be the starter. Noah Allen couldn't even start at a D-2 school, Rawls was never eligible and Grady threw for like 800 yards in 3 seasons and said he regretted leaving. Hybl stuck around and was rewarded with a Rose Bowl MVP.

[soonerfan28]

Mossakowski has narrowed his list (according to Rivals) to Auburn, Louisville and Kentucky. If we're gonna make a move then we better do it quickly.

[KingBarry]

Badger,

I'm sorry. I couldn't quite get what you were trying to say about Ron Zook.

But it sounded something like "He is a good recruiter. That's it."

Am I catching the jist of it?

[Scott D]

you need to learn how decipher badger's posts better. Just because you fall asleep part of the way through is no excuse. ;)